Well, to two anecdotes come to mind, I worked in the not for profit sector for many years before I went out on my own. And somebody, he was the head of the development office in which I worked. And he said something that stuck with me, he said, if you have 15 minutes with a CEO of a company, or have a not for profit, after that 15 minutes, the talk with that person should have been should have inspired you that you want to take out your checkbook. That's how inspiring it should be. If you have 15 minutes, when you leave that conversation, you should feel so invested in what that person told you about what they do, that you are moved to take out your checkbook. And I thought about that a lot. And you have the word that the idea that comes out of this is genuineness, if you are genuine, about the work that you are doing, and about your connection to the work that you're doing, then you can do anything. I mean, you know, I'm not a believer in fake it till you make it. But we've all had to do it. Know when some, when some sector calls me and says, can you do us presentation for us? I say, of course I can. And then I go back and I think really they they design intergalactic warfare, you know, can I do that? Of course I can. But the other thing that I want to share with you happened fairly recently, I have a financial services client here in New York City. And they rented out the Museum of Modern Art for three hours in the evening. And they had 1600 of their new employees walking around MoMA. And they wanted me to walk around and talk about works of art and talk with their, their employees. So this one young man was following me from artwork to artwork to artwork the whole evening. And I said to him, do you have an interest in art? You know, he said, I hate art. And I said, Well, I don't know how anyone could hate art. I said, Why do you feel that way? He said, Because I'm in the banking business. And when I think of art, I think of money laundering and fraud and tax schemes and forgery. And I thought for you is what I thought really, I said to him, so why are you following me around. He said, Because watching someone who's so passionate about what they do, is so inspiring. I could listen to you all night long. And I thought to myself, it's not the art, this guy tax, you know, fraud, money laundering, tax fraud, that's how he would see these beautiful paintings. But the fact that I was connecting it and talking about my passion, and how these people could see the work of art, somehow touched him. And so I realized what I'm doing, and what the art is doing is greater than all of us, it's the ability to connect with people, and to make them feel included and say, Yes, I can do this, I can be passionate about something I can go, you know, I can take a deeper dive into this and find something meaningful in it. And you know, I just I tried to turn that negative, he did it, he turned that negative into a positive and walked around and probably saw 20 different objects with me that night.