Oh, okay. What? What time of day is it in Germany? It says 7pm All right. All right. That would be the the end of Saturday. You're just holding up your your Saturday. Okay. That what was that? That's Misha Isla from Germany. Oh, good. To be here had a spring day today. It's a very vivid with some great beautiful beautiful. Thank you Michelle. Okay, well I think I think it's time to get rolling. What do you what do you ladies think? Now good. Yes. Okay, Alyssa, let's let's go ahead and hit the record button. Perfect. we go. recording in progress. All right. Welcome, everyone. We this is our second gathering of the lucid induction group. So thank you all for showing up. And so we've got people from all over. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Yeah, so I think we're going to start off with let's start off with Chelsea, tell us a little bit about what's going on.
Just so great to see everybody again and Happy New Year to everyone who celebrates the New Year and happy lodestar saw a couple of those in the chat. And I just wanted to share a little bit about our group guidelines. And before I do there we go. Um, before we do that, I'm gonna hide myself so I'm not talking about myself. Okay. So, um, the groove guidelines. So the first portion of this gathering will be the three of us sharing about lucid dreaming induction techniques, and then the time we have left will be open for question and answer portion, and just discussion. So during that question q&a, you'll just use the raise your hand function, which is under reactions, to be able to engage with all of us and before you share, we encourage you to just take a one breath meditation, check in with yourself and check in with how your contribution or your question will benefit the group and as you could see, these are recorded. So I think Katie's gonna share a little bit about our overarching tensions.
Yeah, thank you, Chelsea. Welcome everyone. So wonderful to see all of you and some repeat people and some new people today. And I first want to share our overarching intentions for this group. So I shared this in our last group, and I'm going to share them again just to hold the container and to keep the fluidity of the intentions going. So I'm going to share my screen good. So our overarching intentions for this lucidity induction group as a whole are to expand our lucidity in dreaming life and waking life alike. To explore and practice a variety of lucidity, induction techniques and to engage with a community of people dedicated to the acidity and we're holding these intentions with the emotions of joy, devotion and lightheartedness. So we invite you to join in those intentions with us. And I'm now going to just briefly review what we shared in the last lucidity induction group. One month ago, we shared about the three foundational techniques, and these are the foundational techniques that Andrew speaks about in his lucid dreaming workbook. And they are belief, meditation and intention and if you didn't get a chance to visit that group, the recording is posted on nightclubs so that's free for everyone, nightclub members or not. You're welcome to go visit the lucidity induction group page and revisit those foundational practices. Because the foundational practices are really going to be something that are that we continue to practice throughout this whole time together. And so maybe Chelsea can drop a link in the chat for that. Yeah, and then I'm gonna launch into what our overall theme for today is going to be about. So our theme for today is about creating the conditions for the spontaneous arising of a lucid dream. So in the past group, and many lucid induction techniques are more quantitative so they're more about focalized specific things that we can do to induce lucidity and they have more of a quantitative feel to them. But there are certain lucidity, induction techniques that have more of a qualitative feel to them. So it's not as much about what we're doing, but it's about how we're being with our presence and in our day to day lives. And so today, it's a what we'll be sharing and teaching today is going to be leaning a little bit more towards the qualitative side, but with some quantitative aspects to it. But we wanted you to have that context of the qualitative versus the quantitative the mystery versus the mastery. And how we're approaching lucidity. Because ultimately, it's not just about what specific techniques we're doing to induce lucidity, but it's also about how we're being in our day to day lives. Are we living with lucidity? Or are we living with non lucidity? So this spatial element is very important. And so in last month's group, one of the foundational techniques that we shared was the technique of meditation. And I just want to say that with that technique of meditation there can be so many different ways to approach this. There can be a sitting meditation practice, there can be moving meditation practice. You can have a long session, you can have a short session, you can pepper it throughout your day. And I also want to share that on the nightclub in the nightclub community. There's the meditation group, which many of you are probably a part of that is about detailing different types of meditations. So if you're interested in exploring different types of meditations, that's a great resource. And for today, I want to introduce just a very short meditation because it's a really helpful tool to be able to use in a moment to moment kind of way throughout the day. In order to induce more lucidity. So this meditation is we call it the three breath meditation. And so some of you may be familiar with Andrews introduction of the one breath meditation that he learned from one of his teachers. And we've just expanded it to three breaths because we find that having a little bit more spaciousness actually allows us to detach from or disentangle from, whatever we're engrossed in in our day. So we're recommending the three breath meditation as an informal practice, something that you can do in any moment of the day or evening. When you feel yourself getting pulled into distraction, or when you feel yourself getting pulled into reaction, or when you feel yourself getting lost in the story of something or entangled in the story of something in your day. And so, I'm gonna just briefly guide this practice, and we're gonna do it together a few times. Throughout the course of today. But the intention with this practice is to just be fully present for three full inhalations and exhalations at your own rate. And when it comes to the pace of this I invite you to think about and to feel what is the pace of breathing, the rate of breathing, that actually creates the most presents for you like what makes you what rate of breathing allows you to be the most present so it might be your normal rate, but it might be a little bit slow down from your normal rate, or it could be significantly slowed down from your normal rate. And you can choose to have your eyes open or closed for this practice. And it's good if you're in an upright posture with the heart open. That really the idea with this practice is that you can use it at any time so you don't have to worry so much about posture. It's more about just being able to be in the moment and to access that meditative state and to bring yourself out of distraction or reaction or story. So we will now practice that together. So just go at your own rate. And when you complete if you have your eyes closed, just open them so that I can get a sense of where the group is. So we'll begin the three breath meditation now.
That's it. Super simple. Yeah, so So that's the first induction technique is using this three breath meditation throughout the day. And the second technique I'm going to introduce is is related to this technique, but it's more going into a specific area of life in which you experience more than usual distraction. So I call this technique transforming distraction into awareness. And the idea behind this technique is to look at those areas of life in which you are consistently practicing non lucidity. You're consistently distracting yourself. And some possible areas that these might be could be your intake of media. So your intake of the news or social media, or movies. You could also look at body processes such as eating or drinking or exercising. And you could also look at your relationships so your communications, your intimacy, or conflict resolution. Or could be any other area of life. But the idea is to look for these areas where you're usually or you're more likely to get pulled into a non lucid state and to make an intention to infuse more awareness into one of these areas. So for the purposes of this group, we're inviting you to look at just one because it can be kind of overwhelming to try to look at multiple ones at a time. And to really be able to deeply focus on different areas at the same time when we're transforming that non lucidity into lucidity. So we're inviting you to choose just one. And this isn't about judging yourself or making any shirts about this. It's really meant to be just an exploration and a choice to move towards greater lucidity. So this is a little bit more of a subtle practice and a subtle approach but it has a really large effect on lucidity. So what I've noticed in my own experience is that making these choices to move to to make a forward movement towards lucidity in our waking life. Actually spontaneously induces more lucidity in our dreams, because we're coming into these experiences and we're like looking into each moment of them and looking into each experience of how we're being in them. And then that translates into the night it translates into the into the dream space. So it's subtle, it's spatial, but it's really important. So it's we're wanting to get this into the group pretty early on. And there's a few different ways that you can work with this transformation of the non lucid to the lucid state. So one way you can transform is you can change how you're engaging with that particular area of life. So for example, you might look at eating and notice, okay, yeah, when I eat, I'm distracted, I'm reading or I'm talking or I'm just not being fully present with my experience of eating. And so I'm not going to stop eating but I'm going to change how I eat. I'm going to bring more mindfulness, I'm going to bring my senses into that experience. So that's one way of transforming, changing how you engage with that particular area. of life. And then another way of transforming is to change your degree of engagement. So how much you're doing that thing, whatever it is. So for example, this might be applicable to the ingestion of media. If you are the kind of person who takes in the news every day for hours, and do you notice it pulling you into a non lucid state? You might make an intention to decrease how much you're taking it in either less amount of time per day, less days per week. Something like this, so that you're creating more space for more lucidity in your life. And then the third way to transform and this could be appropriate in certain situations is you might actually consider completely letting go of something that's a great source of distraction. That's not really a place where you feel like you can become more lucid within that. So an example for this in my own life was social media. I noticed that it was kind of an uphill battle of being on social media and not having it pull me into distraction. So with that, I decided to pretty much let go of it completely. And that was appropriate for that particular area of life. So those are the three ways change how you engage with an area of life, change your degree. of engagement, or completely let go of it. And there might be other ways as well that you could think of and create for this process. So in summary, these two techniques are the first one is an in the moment technique, an informal practice using the three breath meditation, when you're getting pulled into distraction or reaction or story in your day. And the second is choosing an overarching area of your life, that you tend towards distraction or you pulled into distraction and to choose to infuse that with more awareness, more lucidity and transform it. So thank you very much and we will now move on to Chelsea.
Katie, thank you and there were a couple people in the chat, who just wanted a little bit more information about the technique of the three breath meditation and I know we're going to be doing that a couple more times. could you just share a little bit more about the technique or maybe go over it again, Katie, you write us again, maybe that might be helpful and and then I can go
to guide it again. Yeah, maybe
like just share a little bit about like the, the techniques of what we're actually doing and then maybe guided again since we're gonna be doing it again anyway.
Okay, yeah. So So the technique is really simple. It's really just about being fully present for three full inhalations and exhalations at your own rate. And yeah, it's it's meant to be simple so that you can use it at any time. And so if there's a further specific question, please put that in the chat and we can address it in the q&a. But yeah, we can we can launch into that now. Do you want to guide this hotels? Sure.
Yeah. So we'll be doing another three breath meditation as Katie shared, and so it's, it's very simple. So I can even do it with you and I can say inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale, but it's meant to really go at your own pace. And to use it whenever you feel a distraction, as Katie mentioned, or a contraction. So we'll just close our eyes or leave them open. Whatever feels true for you. And we're going to inhale an exhale
and inhale
an exhale
and one more time, inhale
and exhale
and when you feel complete, just open up your eyes I feel a little bit open a little bit more open and relaxed. So I'm going to speak a little bit about sleep hygiene. And sleep hygiene is really the connection. It's based on the connection between you know the body and the mind. And so our body is the filter in which we experience our mind. And lucid dreaming is really working with the subtle energetic body which can be more sensitive to environmental factors. By recognizing our bodies and honoring them, we can create an environment that is conducive to lucid dreaming. And one way of doing this is putting attention towards our sleep. Hygiene, which is about tending to the mind and body before bed. So good sleep hygiene really supports the clearing of the mind and body of feelings and thoughts and emotions. And distracting sensations before dropping into sleep. And if we really pay attention to our sleep hygiene, it can be a way of embodying devotion during the day towards our lucid dreaming practice. And I put sleep hygiene into three different sections. So it's going to be body preparation, environmental preparation, and mind preparation. So we'll start with body preparation. And the first one is to stick to a routine so go to sleep and wake up around the same time plus or minus 20 minutes. And if you're going to take a nap, I'm only taken out for 30 minutes no more because it can actually affect your sleep pressure and make it more difficult for you to fall asleep when you want to at night. And just to be really like gentle towards yourself and kind when implementing these approaches because we all have our patterns right that we've accumulated over time and this is us making the decision to change those patterns in a conscious way and for me, I'm going through a big transition in my life right now. And I'm finding what is my new sleep routine at this moment, and so just just be gentle with yourself. Avoid having a large meal before bed. So eat light if you need to eat before bed, and otherwise, sorry, otherwise it can create like restlessness in your stomach. Make it hard to go to sleep and if you can eat three hours before you go to bed the next one is avoid stimulants close to bed. So stop drinking caffeine around noon, and exercise at least three hours before bed. So yeah, if you're gonna stop drinking caffeine before noon, I know that for some people, they're really sensitive to caffeine, right? And then other people are like I can sleep like a baby and drink a cup of coffee like right before I go to bed. So this is really up to you explore this and see what is the right fit for you. Don't drink a lot of alcohol. So alcohol is one of the most potent suppressors of REM sleep, which is the phase in which we dream the most I've noticed in the last three and a half years since I've stopped drinking alcohol that I am more lucid in general, and I remember more of my dreams. So just another one for you to play with. And then we're gonna go into environmental preparation. So Don't multitask in bed. Keep your bed tidy. Your bed is a space Christopher's making me really happy with all of your smiling. Thank you. Yeah, so keep it really tidy in your bedroom and only use your bed for sleep and intimacy because you can create associations with your bed. And if you're working in bed, then your mind is going to think that you're supposed to work in bed rather than sleep. So just try to be mindful of doing things other than sleep and intimacy in your bed. Make sure that your room is cool. Ideally 66 degrees Fahrenheit. Make sure it's dark because this releases melatonin if there's too much light wherever you are, you can wear a sleep mask. And you can also choose to in the evening like turn have red light instead of you know low light or you could do low light or my personal favorite is candlelight and that kind of helps us recognize. Okay, we're winding down we're getting ready to go to sleep. Make sure that it's quiet all night long. If you need to, you can use a sound machine or earplugs. Remove any electronics with screens from your bedroom and pull yourself away from computers tablets and smartphones two to three hours before you go to bed. So I normally do this from 8pm to 8am. And if I need to be on the computer later than that, then I wear my blue light glasses. And I've really noticed this has a huge effect on my lucidity. And as Katie was speaking to you know our screens can be a huge distraction. So this is a way of working with like Katie was talking about and also your sleep hygiene. When I first started to not use screens like before going to bed I was like What can I do that in between those two to three hours. And so you can do yoga, meditation, take a bath, mindful food preparation, drink tea and read a book. If you're gonna drink tea. Keep in mind that it may affect your bladder. So you may be waking up more than you want to which could also help your lucidity depending on which induction technique you're using. journaling and practicing gratitude. And then something else that's been really helpful for me is turning off my phone between that 8pm and 8am span of time and turning off the Wi Fi if you can. Um I've actually spoken to some researchers about this recently. So I'm like lucid dreaming sleep researchers and they have an interest in exploring this because they do think that there could possibly be a link. So also see how that that works for you if it helps you sleep better if you can have the Wi Fi off. And then we have mind preparation which is quite brief because we spoke about it in our first gathering and that would be belief, intention and meditation. So you're welcome to view the recording that I put into the chat. And really it's about cleaning up your mind before you go into sleep and really setting that intention to have a lucid dream. And as Andrew says it's like taking a warm mental bath before bed. So I have a little bit of journaling time for us to just kind of reflect on what I just shared with you and integrated a little bit because I know I gave you a lot of information. And Alyssa, can you check the accessing of the recording because it looks like some folks are having a hard time seeing it. Thank you all right. So I am going to share my screen
and we are just going to take about five minutes to review these questions in journal. So we can integrate this information a little bit more. So these are the questions What is your general attitude towards sleep? What are some ways that you can incorporate some of these approaches into your daily and nightly routine? What do you imagine will be the most simple approach to incorporate and what can you do to support yourself in implementing these approach approaches?
So we'll have about five minutes and I'll let you know when we're complete.
All right. Thank you everybody for journaling. I'm going to take this down. I hope that was helpful for you. And I know that was a lot of information and you can always come back and listen to the recording. So it's it's here all that information is here for you. And it's also highlighted in Andrews workbook, which Katie showed at the beginning of the call and I'll put a link to that in the chat. And I also wanted to share that night club actually has an event. I think it's once a month with the sleep doctor. And I'll ask Alyssa to put that information in the chat and if you're interested. All right, and now we have Bodie.
Hey, thanks, Josie. So let me just give a heads up man a few minutes we're going to do something interactive with all of you. We're going to put some questions up on the screen, you're actually going to be able to answer it. It's a poll and we get to kind of figure out hey, you know, some cool questions. So a little bit of interactive coming up in just a few minutes. Before that. I'd like to see if I can give some context to that three breath meditation technique. So So what type of technique is the three breaths or the one breath that Andrew does? In one respect? It's it's a pattern interrupt. So what you're doing is you're interrupting your your day. The story of your day what you're doing. And you're you're just throwing in a very small pattern interrupt. And, and this is a technique that that if you do it consistently or not, it will go into your your dream world and this is something that actually happened to me this month and it does. Often. If I do things like the three breaths throughout the month. It does have some results. So the pattern interrupt is that you're just bringing yourself back to lucidity. So, right now let i i invite you. We're going to do the three breaths again. Let's try. We're going to change it up just a little bit. So how about this time? Go ahead and leave your eyes open, maybe turn to the side away from the screen and just maybe stare at something so that you're because you don't have to have your eyes closed but just just look at something and as you take the three breaths and and I did this this last month and it did go into my dream space. But as you take these three breaths, either you can ask the question, Is this a dream? Or you can make the statement. This is a dream. So I've played with both of these and this last month I played with one of those specifically, but But right now, we're going to just take three breaths and we're going to try that because, you know, taking three breaths is is a pattern interrupt and we can do it in several ways. So let's see if this works. Or how it what what is it? Does it produce anything different for you? Do you have any more lucidity of you know you're more present in the moment when we do it? Maybe. So let's try that right now. So go ahead and just maybe turn away from the screen. You can dim your eyes, whatever works for you or, but let's go ahead and take three breaths. And if you feel called called to just either ask the question, Is this a dream? Or maybe say the statement this is a dream so let's do that. Right now.
All right, and as you finish up you can just face the screen again. Great. So if that context helps you out and he mentioned it in the in the chat you know, like help or something like that. If it you know many ties it more towards, you know, to what were the objective that we're trying to get. We're trying to, to, you know, how does this connect to my dream space or my lucidity? So hopefully that helps you a little bit and then he gives you a little bit of a variation on that three breaths. So experiment with that. Hopefully this month you get to try that several times or or make it a point to do that. As many times as you can throughout the day. Two it's a it's a great pattern interrupt. So here's an example of what happened to me this month. So I've been experimenting with the same the statement because I wasn't sure which one works better. And I've heard Andrew talk about, you know, asking the question, Is this a dream and I tried that. And so this month I tried. This is a dream, but I tried to statement so I do those pattern interrupts during my waking state. And sure enough, I had a dream this this month, where all of a sudden in the middle of the story of the dream it my voice my inner voice in the dream said, this is a dream. And you know, you don't always pay attention to to that you might be deep in the story, but this time I that clicked I was like, oh yeah, this is a dream. And so by saying that, you know in in these pattern interrupts during the day, it did help me this month, and it did that. So the next thing I'm going to talk about is the spectrum of lucidity. So yeah, I I did recognize that I was dreaming. Oh, yeah. I say that throughout the day. This is a dream and Oh, yeah. Actually in a dream. Now the spectrum of lucidity, you could be just barely lucid. Or you can be ultra lucid. It's, it's, uh, you know, it's not static. It's this whole spectrum that we can be on when we do get lucid. And I know there's some people on the call, especially last month, that people that have never had a lucid dream. So I'm just making it helpful because what happened this month for me? Yes, I did realize I was dreaming. And I immediately did what I wanted to do. I wanted to fly so I immediately did that but I didn't have very much lucidity. So I got kicked out so I I lost my lucidity. I didn't do much. I didn't get to do my dream yoga practices and stuff like that. So I woke up going Oh man. Oh shoot. You know my my lucidity was real low. So that spectrum just know that even though you got kicked out or you didn't have much lucidity, you did have some so on it. Celebrate it. And you you had a lucid dream. And so the next thing that you'll want to work on of course is how do you get that the spectrum How do you get it more how do you get more lucidity? Do you have it be more vivid so you can do more cool things? Those things that you want to do in your lucid dream that you have more time to do that you're you're more engaged, more lucid. So those are our techniques that that we also work at not just inducing the lucidity but but increase in it so so we talked about last month about intention. So as we get into okay how to lucid dream but it was really not very lucid. Okay, no problem. So part of my intention is okay, I want to have a lucid dream. And I want to stop the dream stop interacting and I want to do something that increases my lucidity before I go flying. Or before I do my dream yoga exercises and things like that. So like right now, I'm trying out something that that has worked for Katy recently, stomping your feet in the dream and it increases lucidity and sunlight. I'm going to try that because I have been trying to work on my arms backwards. And I think Andrew or somebody mentioned something about that. And so I've done that and with some results, but right now I'm trying to put into my intention. I want to become lucid tonight in my dreams, and I want to you know, stop what's happening. Take a moment, like take a breath and and I want to do something that increases that lucidity and, and then now you're you're doing more lucidity. You can get more out of that lucid dream. So so basically just wanted to let you know if you haven't had a lucid dream, just know. If you get kicked out right away. It's okay you you had a lucid dream. Write it down celebrate it, we want to celebrate it with you. And so that's the one other thing we just want to mention is when I first had lucid dreams it was really frustrating because I get excited. I'd go oh, I'm dreaming. Oh, I'm dreaming. Yes, I you know I would get so excited and it would kick me out so I I realized I'm lucid remember to stay calm. Maybe in the dream Take Take a breath. Day calm. Just a little tip for you. It's so exciting and it is your first your first lucid dreams you might not be able to help it it is really exciting. So just know it's okay. You'll have to learn how to stay calm and increase your lucidity and you'll be having wonderful lucid dreams. So that's a few tips for you. For those of you that maybe haven't had a lucid dream or had a couple means that'll help. Hopefully, that does. So let's do the poll right now. So Alyssa, can we can we see a poll question? There you go. Can everybody see that you should be able to see that. Great. So this is the first question. Have you had a lucid dream? So you should be able to click on one of these answers and tell us you've never had a lucid dream. You've had your first lucid dream this last past month we want to know and or and you've been lucid for a while and you did not have one this month for you've been lucid for a while. And you did have a lucid dream this month. So we'll let you guys answer those questions here and then we'll get to see the results here in just Just a second. So thanks for participating and get to see how people are doing. All right. Cool, cool. Okay, I think that's enough time we're going to end the poll and see the results. Done. Okay, still, Katie and Chelsea helped me out here did see this was the first time we've done this. Okay. Oh wait, man. I see. So, never had a lucid dream. 24% of the people on the call right now. Still haven't had a lucid dream. Okay, great. We're we want to help you have a lucid dream. So thank you.
4% of you had your first lucid dream this last month. So everybody, like yay. We want to we want to celebrate that those people and hopefully, yeah, we you know, so in the chat. You know, I can't help it in the chat. If you had your first lucid dream. This month, this last month. Just let us know in the chat. We want to we want to celebrate you directly. That's awesome. That's why we're here. So, wow, 45% of the people on the call had a lucid dream and they they're lucid dreamers and they had one this month so so almost 50% of us so
that's they did not have a lucid dream this person.
Oh, okay. 50 45% did not have one this last. Okay, thank you. You have to keep an eye on me. Okay, so then 27% are lucid dreamers and had a lucid dream this last month. Is that true?
Yes, that's true. Okay.
Yay. 27% awesome group. You guys are awesome. So cool. Yeah. And did we get anybody just mentioning in the chat that they were the people that have their first lucid dream. Chelsea, you're good with chat you What do you see?
I do not see any new entries in the chat. So I can understand why you wouldn't want to share that whoever that is to so no pressure.
It's okay. It's okay. But we celebrate you. We do. We do. We do.
Oh nice. Do we have do we have is it Carrie I'm sorry if I'm pronouncing it incorrectly, but Carrie had their first lucid dream and Clemens had their first lucid dream.
Oh, congratulations, Carrie and Clemens. Yeah,
just for some information around when we said the last month we meant between this gathering and the last gathering that we had.
Yeah. Oh yeah. Yes. Okay.
So you want to do the second poll? Bodie. Okay.
All right. So stop sharing. share results. What happened there? All right. Yes, Alyssa, can we bring up the second question? All right. Oh, which of the lucid dreaming foundational techniques did you use this last month? If any? So last month, we talked about belief meditation intention, or or you didn't use any of those. So fantastic. Go ahead and, and pick one of those to do
and also, I just want to let you know at the top it says what percentage of the people have participated so maybe we can leave it open just a little bit longer to make sure that Oh, as many participant as want to,
okay, good. Yeah, did you catch on the last question, what that number was that the participation
at one person I think, okay. Yeah.
I was trying to answer it myself, but I don't think
I think because we're facilitators we can't, I'm not allowed to.
Okay. All right. We're up to 83% of you have have participated. That's probably pretty good for what we're looking at.
All right, Katie, we're still at 83 Does that sound good to you? Yeah,
sounds good because it's kind of stopped. Okay. Okay.
All right. Fair result. Very good. Wow. Believe. Belief helped. Or people worked on belief 49% 67% used meditation. Fantastic. And just using an intention was 87 Beautiful.
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I'm dyslexic. Sorry, people. I can't help it. Yeah, fantastic. Yeah. That's beautiful. Keep it up. Keep keep up the good work, everyone. And we're going to be talking about more techniques. And, and things like that. So and will continue to, to interact with you guys. Find out hey, what's working, you know, and we want to know, so thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. And so that that was it with the questions, right. Ladies, it was just too Right. Okay. We're good. And, and
I think we're gonna jump into the q&a. It's q&a time. It's q&a time. So we did have a question in the chat. Bodi somebody asked how many times you do this and they were referring to breathing doing the three breath meditation and saying to yourself, This is a dream. So could you answer that? Yeah. So
as many times as you can. So I I've done several things, and it's, you know, some of us lead busy lives, not some not so busy so it it varies. But the more you can do a pattern interrupt, some type of pattern interrupt in your day, the more chances you'll have in doing it in your dreaming state. So at one point I had, I had this little light counter that athletes use that goes on your, your, like your ring finger, and you know, it's like a counter, like how many laps you ran or something like that. And so I use that with a watch that rang every 15 minutes. And so every 15 minutes, I would, I would do a pattern interrupt, I would either do this, like the breathing three breaths, or I would just like ask the question, Is this a dream as I'm like, looking around, maybe I was working on something or, or doing something at work or, or cooking or something, but when my watch went off, I would ask the question, really, really interrupt what I was doing and really go Is this a dream and really ask the question. So and then I would, you know, so I, I would do like, it was it was kind of fun because I could count how many times that day I did it and then I'd write it down. You know, I'd be like, somewhere in the 20s Like, 20 times a day. I'd be like, Oh, that's cool. And you do get really results like that. Have I been able to consistently wear the watch and count how many times they do today. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was. It was like it was hard. It especially like fifth every 15 minutes throughout your waking state but I you know, so, and right now I can't find the watch. I've been looking for it. I can't find it. I did have some people. Like I was attending a workshop. You know, for for like outdoor learning, old time skills, you know, like, and blacksmithing and stuff, but my watch was going on over off every 15 minutes and the instructor was like, What's going on voting and so I had to, you know, stop my, my, my thing so, it just kind of depends, you know, are you at work or, you know, just try, try and see what you can do. You might not need to wear a watch and you don't have to do all that. Just can you, you know, find a few times during the day or every time you sit down to have a meal or something maybe that's three times a day it would help and see, see how it works for you. If you can count how many times you interrupted your pattern during the day if you want to do that this month, and then let me know or let us know this next month. How what was the most you were able to do? I would love that that's going to encourage me to find that watch and get back to what I was doing several months ago. So yes, if that helps. It's just whatever you can afford to do. The more you the more you put in, the more you're going to get out. So that that's my answer.
Thank you. Bodie. Yeah, yeah, somebody in the chat said love the idea of reframing to Pattern Interrupt instead of pressure to practice awareness. So thank you, Kim. And just being mindful of the time we are at our end time and we'll go for about 10 to 15 more minutes because we do want to engage with all of you. But just wanted to speak that into the group. So you know, we're we're all aware of that. And our next question that's in the chat, is I curious how the lucid dream typically ends similar to a non lucid dream
okay, I can answer this one. Yeah. So it really depends. It depends on your degree of lucidity. It depends on your intention, all of this so I can give some examples of how a lucid dream can end. One way and this can happen if you're not very lucid to begin with or if you lose your lucidity is it can just turn into a non lucid dream. So it can transition from being lucid to not another way is you can wake up and sometimes it might be wake up intentionally because you're like, for example, sometimes I'll be in a lucid dream and I'll be wanting to remember what has happened and maybe it's been going on for a while already. And so I want to wake up so that I can remember that dream. So you could do that intentionally. Or you could wake up unintentionally as Bodhi spoke to like if you get excited, you might wake up or you might just wake up because you get to a certain point in the dream and it triggers you to wake up or you might even wake up because you have like a bodily sensation. Like I actually had that happen last night where I woke up because I could it felt like I had to use the bathroom. And then when I woke up actually didn't have to use the bathroom which was really strange, but that can be another way that the dream might end. You can also like if you're in a lucid dream and you're very lucid and you're planning things and creating things in a certain way. You can also end it intentionally just like not even wake up but you can just kind of end the dream and either start a new dream. Or you might end the dream and go into a different state, like sleep for example. So those are some some ways to end a lucid dream. Hopefully that helps. Thank you, Katie.
And also by the way, feel free to use the raise your hand function under reactions. If you feel like you want to come on the video and ask a question to us. I'm just reading the next question. So when we believe this is from Dana, when we become lucid during a dream, what are a few things we can focus on slash practice to help stabilize and deepen lucidity? So I'll just answer this quickly since I think Bodhi talked about it a bit in his share. And so something that we've talked about our Katie's method, which is like stomping our feet, right, that can increase stability. It can be whirling your arms backwards. So that one can be really fun. And I've actually gotten like, so excited about the worldly, my arms and wanting to stabilize that I've done it too fast. And it just loops me right out of the dream. Be aware of that. Another thing that you can do, which I've found to be helpful, it's like sometimes if I try to read something, it can actually help me stumble it stabilize the dream, which is kind of cool, or helped me become lucid because I realized that I can't read the text. So if you try to read something in a dream, usually the letters and numbers are kind of are garbled and it's difficult to read it and so that can trigger lucidity or sometimes stabilize it for me. Um, Katie, do you have some other ones?
Yeah, one more I would say as mantra. Yes. Yeah. So just like when you're caught in non lucid streams of thoughts during the day you use mantra to stabilize the mind and get out of that distracted way of thinking that works. The same in a dream. So using mantra in the context of a dream can be really helpful.
Thank you, Katie. And the three bad breath meditation. I can help you stabilize too. All right, so next question that we have on here is from Kim, how to remedy or observe with awareness, the rumination that may result from asking the question, Is this a dream? Do we pattern interrupt the pattern interrupt?
Yeah, that's a great question. Um, and I think you did answer it yourself. Do we pattern interrupt the pattern interrupt? Yeah, that's definitely a way to do that. I can have this happen too. And I think certain people have the kind of mental body that leads to like rumination and getting stuck on that and then it turns into a non lucid act rather than a lucid act. This can also happen, you know, with induction techniques, like if we're using the same induction technique, over and over, it can start to be more like a, like a routine that becomes mindless. And so yes, if you notice yourself ruminating with that question are with any technique, it's a good time to change it, and to do something that creates more awareness for you because it's new.
Yeah. Great. Question. Yes, great question. And I just wanted to mention, Clemens said jumping up and down in the dream can help stabilize the dream for them too. So just wanted to throw that in. And then the next question that's in the chat is from Patrick. How would you recommend practicing to meditate in the dream while lucid? Is this a much more advanced technique than basic lucidity? I can talk about this. This is like this is one of my favorite things to do while in the dream space so for me what I've noticed is it is it isn't necessarily linked to basic lucidity, but you can like meditate and non lucid dream right? If you're a if you're a devoted meditator, then it could just happen naturally, because that's something that you do during the day. And you could just not be aware that you're necessarily in the dream meditating. My meditation practice during the day has been directly linked to my ability to meditate in a lucid dream. So, if you are wanting to meditate in a lucid dream, and that's part of your intention, I recommend focusing on your meditation practice during the day so that you can kind of slip into it a bit more when you become lucid during a dream. And also, like I said, Make it part of your intention All right. So glad to mean dreams, cool name. Sad. One of the most important things to do if you wake up from a lucid dream is to lie completely still and focus on completely relaxing your body until you are able to reenter the dream lucidly. This can work quite well. Yeah, this goes along with what Bodie was sharing right about staying calm during the lucid dream. By the way Bodhi when you were sharing and you were getting all excited, I don't know if everybody else experienced this, but there was like a glitch in your video, which was pretty awesome. Alright, right. Um, thank you for all the kind messages that I'm seeing in here. Um, Claire Johnson uses an acronym clear, stay calm, look around. Embrace the narrative. What's going on in the dream? Activity, touch a tree, reinstate the dream goal, or intention. Super helpful. Thank you, Marianne. Yeah, that's beautiful. Um, okay. I think got all of the questions that are in the chat. And if I didn't, please put your hand up and come on so that we can we can answer your question
in a moment that I'm ready. I think we're complete. So we're gonna have a blessing from Bodie. And then we'll have the dedication from Katie, and we'll be done with this group. So thank you go ahead, buddy. Dear. You're muted.
Thanks again, everyone for showing up. is a fantastic and we're getting great results. People are are are having lucid dreams. And so we'd like to that to just offer a blessing to May this next month before we meet again, until we meet again, May your dreams be be full and your dreams be lucid. May your sleep be restful and rejuvenated. So blessings to all of you. And we hope to see you next month. Thank you.
Yes, thank you. And we dedicate whatever MERIT has been accumulated by this gathering today to the benefit of all sentient beings.
