All right. Starting general meeting 4.4037. So order of business, so the call to order roll call intro, minutes from the previous session. Port sunburns, press reports. New business old business and merger. Alright, meeting leaders. I guess I'll leave this meeting again. But we usually try to rotate if we can get prepped ahead of time. That doesn't always happen. Steering Committee, do you want to announce yourselves?
Yeah. My name is Chris. I'm the treasurer.
Robert, Secretary.
My name is Aubrey. I'm the campaign coordinator. And Riley who I don't know if he's here or not. He is the membership and education coordinator. So A quorum is four I believe. So we meet quorum for this meeting. introductions to be Should we just do a random introduction for everyone else? has not done intros yet. Yeah. So go for it. Power.
Oh, hi. My name is Paulo, Justin. Ember.
Tanner, do you wanna go
can you guys hear me? Yes. Hey, I'm Tanner. I'm new here new around these parts
Hi, everyone, my name is Majid. Also new here. Welcome.
Welcome. Welcome. And Adri if you're here. It really agree.
Hi, everyone. Yes, I'm angry.
John's gonna introduce. Join us on November. All right. Moving on. Um, so problem minutes. We have our general meeting minutes from January 11. Our steering committee meetings from the 25th. Robbie, do you want to just handle the minutes section?
Well, first, I wanted to thank Paulo for submitting the corrections for the last meeting and you for submitting the dates. As there was no discussion on them. I've adapted them into the main one will vote on them this meeting. But of course, if there are any further questions, you can submit them on the forum. They just won't be updated original post. Now with that said, the minutes unless there are any corrections or additions, the minutes will stand approved as amended. Any objections? Hearing them? Okay. The minutes stand proved as posted or amended and posted. Sorry.
Okay. Do you want to follow I also the amendments here, so I guess we can. Here they are. If anyone has any comments on them? I guess we don't. But do you want to clarify the focus campaign vote from last time? Me? I mean, I can do a shot. Okay, yeah. Sure. So according to Robert's Rules, last time, when we got the campaign vote, the vote was we had one abstention, and we counted it towards the total. But we shouldn't have counted it towards the total. So the focus campaign should have passed. That things that we've done, are we did a side quest instead. So we do have the option now to one vote, to bring it back onto the floor, and then another vote to vote on the free Palestine campaign again, or a campaign again. Personally, I don't want a motion to bring this to the floor. I think the side quest Avenue was okay for us on this issue, but if someone else wants to motion to bring this to the floor, go ahead and do it now. All right. Seems like all right. So moving on. And yeah, thank you again, Paulo for the edits. Yeah, like Robbie said, You'll incorporate these into the first post and then you can go back on the forum, look at the past edit history, and then you can see how the minutes have been edited over time. All right, any members, newly sick or in distress?
I'm somewhat out of distress. Again. My root canal finally took three trips but the good news.
That's good news six months to our health care system, nothing like ticket. Rally. Do you want to introduce yourself real quick?
Oh, hello, I am Riley. I'm the education. The membership coordinator. I just got home from work.
Okay, reports of officers and committees. Secretary, do you wanna go first?
Yeah, all I have is that you brought to my attention that we received a notice from the I'm sorry, do you have it handy our preacher I got it was from the SAC Valley tenants. And it read, Hey, there, I happen to be in a breakout room with Palo at this morning's 810 session pelo gave me this email is contact information. We just wanted to say hi, with the intention of connecting with you all sometime, it would be great to develop some central valley solidarity. Thanks, Thomas on behalf of the Sacramento Valley tenants union.
Thank you, Paulo for going to that. We have a section later about updates from that if you have anything to present membership coordinator, the reading group thing I have a section on it later. But anything else?
Once I can add my notes
Oh, we had been working on a like set of guidelines for like public facing documents. And so I'm going to probably present that later. As like a thing that we can work on over the next month and maybe adopted the next meeting.
Okay, campaign coordinators me. Yeah, just more time to give me an update. So we'll do later treasurer ad reform in the next slide.
Yeah. Yeah, submitted another form. I didn't fly request. And here it is. We can't get the 1024 from DSA through FOIA. It's a different process. I had a feeling this was gonna happen. But I mean, essentially, for all new members, a quick brief overview is we wanted to see DSHS tax filings because when we initially filed for an EIN number, we ended up going through some hoops. So we're trying to avoid that in the future. And file our 1024 A to be a nonprofit.
Alright, you as good Ewok update. So the guy that we've been talking to, he said his boss, the manager called the meeting to discuss the formation of a union because this guy had been handing out like Union signup form. So we had made foreign brief. And he said They prepared a statement that was prepped by legal saying that we shouldn't be forming a union. And he said, it's a small shop. So everyone knows everyone's business. I haven't heard an update after that. But I think he may just have been put off forming a union there because he had talked to three or four people. And it seems like everyone's backing off will take us about what you have is short for new members. Yeah.
Well, bye bye. Put off. Do you mean intimidated out of it? Yeah.
That's what I mean. So Iraq is a emergency workplace organizing committee, I think. Yeah. Basically, Ewok has like an online website. And if people are trying to form a union in their workshop, they can submit their information on Ewok. And then Ewok, then has a bunch of committees all over the country. We've joined a joint committee with North Central Valley, DSA. And so whenever a case comes in the Stockton area or the San Joaquin area, it gets handed to us. And if it's heard a bit further down south it goes to them. And yeah, North Central Valley. So they took on a new case, and they wanted to meet with us to kind of discuss how to promote the walk more. Let's just keep that in the back of our minds. And we can schedule that later. Yes, and Trader Joe's and Amazon are trying to just abolish that already. So this this whole thing might be moved. But any questions on a walk for anyone basically. Okay, so that you are
sorry, I was recording what was the update on the person that went to hear back from that just we haven't heard back from them?
Um, oh, yeah. So he tried to form a union and then he said management kind of stepped in and intimidate everyone. So I will reach out back to him again, just to be asking if he's a if he's still willing to keep going. But for now, I think he's probably checked out trying to Do that. And yet, we have a calendar at the end. So one of the things we have to schedule is if we want to meet with WC, or with North Central Valley, DSA. And he's talking about how to promote the walk a little bit more than what we've been doing now.
Okay, good. Thanks. All right.
Yeah, and so right now your committee is mean, Riley, if you want to be part of it, just like either one of us now. Or you can say right now, right now, basically, we're not doing anything unless a case come before us. But if it does, then we try to keep in contact with this person, and basically try to meet with them and encourage them to utilize the workplace. Okay, and this was the public facing material, temporary working group that Riley was talking about, we did have one meeting that's linked on the slide, once you get once you get the slides. There's no final proposal for membership yet. At the beginning, we had said it might take a few months. So maybe next month or the month after, we'll have something if you want to join, the next meeting will be announced on WhatsApp or on the forum. So anyone can join to take part in the notes from the previous meeting or also on the forum and be appropriate. Alright, trudging through.
Or also, if you're just like super anxious, do any of these things just like contact one of the steering people? And I'm sure we have plenty of things to give you.
Okay. Unfinished business. Definitely left is kind of what we wanted to schedule to talk about what's changed since 2016. Since that's when so many of us were activated, what's worked and what hasn't worked and how we move forward. We need to reschedule that. So another thing that we'll do at the end, but we want it to be kind of a social event, so invite us and outsiders also. So if you can think of a place that wouldn't be good for us keep it straight down. Nope. Until the very end. Okay. This is ABC, this is something we want to do. Unless anyone objects right now, I'm just gonna drop it for now and work it into new member orientation. I'm assuming everyone's okay with that. Yep. All right. All right. Okay, so the side quest. So this is one of the things that we were working on for the past month, besides quest ended in March. So I just wanted to do a quick review of what we had done. So we wrote an email, as a group to the Democrats that have been endorsed by George Carter asking them to reject his endorsement, basically saying you're giving him stature in your community and your base by accepting his endorsement. And he's a pro Zionist pastor. None of them did. And so we had an complicity in genocide rally, and a letter that went with that, that kind of clarified why we're attacking these endorsed candidates. We had the rally, there were like 200 people there. I don't know if it was a rally, or we also heard specifically from someone who said that they told me during his campaign that they're not voting for him because of his endorsement by Josh. And then they later heard from his campaign that he's going to write a ceasefire letter encouraging his former members of Congress to support a ceasefire, which is about the most you can expect out of, you know, a politician to really say anything about Josh at this point. But
just to jump in real quick, they, the big Bernie campaign did acknowledge that 209 for Palestine into nine times where they saw the content being posted on those platforms. And that's what made them not made them but, you know, allowed them to think about it and say, I mean, do something. I don't know if it's what we wanted, but it's something.
Yeah, I mean, the likelihood of him coming out and saying Josh was a bastard was pretty much no. So that's also why. So anyone else have any feedback or comments about the side quests that we worked on? On the side quest?
Let's keep it up, I think oh, sorry.
It's okay. I was just gonna jump in real quick and say like, I think it was really nice that it was very specific and targeted. I think also, like, for me personally, like things like that just helped me kind of center my focus onto something more specific. And since we are rooted in San Joaquin, and Stockton area, you know, kind of focusing our efforts of how we can make an impact are kind of convinced these politicians just weigh their opinions in something more specific to how it impacts us. And our ability to vote or not vote for those people, I think is what I liked mostly about recycles.
We did reach about 5000 people in the past two weeks with our social media posts and that's all we've been posting really And none of the people that were endorsed by Josh won by more than 50%. So they're all in the runoff in November. And several of them are actually placed like, I saw us. So maybe with that, may Winton, but they're gonna blame us either way.
Yeah, I was gonna quickly say, I think it was a good side quest in terms of if we keep doing, you know, targeted actions. I mean, the Democrats won't like us, but we don't really want their acquaintance anyways. We're not really losing anything. And we're able to put pressure on our politicians to do something that which we wanted to do anyway. So we got a bunch of people lined up for a specific purpose, it will seem like everyone there was down for that purpose.
All right. So we don't have a side quest hooked up right now. But that is something we can talk about at the end. That's why I'm kind of speeding through everything so we can talk about it. All right. This is the most text heavy presentation we've ever had. I am so sorry. I mean, people.
There's no way it's is worse than like the last one or whichever one was the Oh, no, that
is Oh, boy. All right. All right. Yeah. All right. So we've had a bunch of bylaws posted on the forum since January now. So that's been a month notice. So this vote is to approve, and like actually put them into place? Robbie, do you want to kind of take over this part? And then I'll read off the description of changes if you want.
I'm sure once. Okay. So basically, these have been posted. And so you had any changes had to be basically submitted onto the forum that we can make minor changes here, but not really. So I guess we'll deal with it as they come. But otherwise, we'll just go over them. And we'll vote on them all at the end. And then that way, if there's any that we need particular attention to that we can deal with them as they arise. Okay, so, in this case, the our wording does say that the members present, right. Yeah. Which means that the tension will be the same as a no vote because we will count everyone here, right? Yes. Okay. Is everyone clear on that, that basically everyone has a vote. So we'll be counting for the majority for the two thirds of everyone here, which would be
what so we need like five, six people or something like that? Six months? Six,
five would not cross the 66%. Okay. Okay, if that's unclear, I guess Harpreet, can you blame the first chain who will be making?
Okay, so just to clarify, if someone does have a concern about something you can bring it up now. But then at the very end, we'll do like one vote for all the ones without comments. And then separate votes for all the ones with
actually have a question? Yeah, um, just for the newcomers. Since this is their first meeting, President, does this count as them being in good standing or being a member? Or doesn't mean that they have to have been to their first meeting and then come to a second meeting vote?
So one of the bylaws I was clarifying is exactly. But right now, it's been like you come to a meeting and you're a member, so we'll keep that but in the future, it's as soon as you pay your dues you remember you don't have to have come to a meeting for that.
But okay, so then are redefining coming to a meeting as in you don't have to come like completely come to one whole meeting like just being part of a meeting for the first time counselors being a member just
paying your dues counselor as a member you don't have to have meetings don't have anything to do with it as long as you come to one sometime in the first year. So you can wait until the last month to come to me and you'll be months before that.
But so as as newcomers for today, they would have voting power
Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna work the same way that basically every other new person who's been to a meeting wouldn't Yeah, now.
You're one of the new bylaws is also like adopting the customs of the DC which is super vague, but it's kind of like this. So so far, and every time someone comes to a meeting, they become a member so or even post on our farm, they remember so right now Tanner and majestic are both members. Congratulations. But welcome. Yeah, welcome. But we do have two setup, which I'll talk about at the very end. And then after that you'll have to pay to take over. Okay, so this is
what, so then the updated math would be, it will take seven votes to make a change or to accept a change, right?
How many people were here? Nine,
nine.
So, we do need seven. Yeah, we
do need, we need seven. Okay. Just so everyone's
clear on what we're doing. All righty.
So this was a change in our mission statement. The previous set removes some of the geographic limitations that were in our initial one where we were only talking about ultimately, only advancing socialism is Anakin County, especially now that we're doing work on like Palestine. And the revised text also acknowledges the long term challenges inherent in the mission while expressing a confident and inspiring vision of solidarity and collective action. And so we basically just wanted to make it more inclusive and aspirational than what was there before.
But this doesn't this doesn't affect standing you still need to be a resident or work in San Joaquin County to Yeah, okay. Yeah.
All we're doing is saying our mission can be broader and I think we wanted to remove that we are that we removed our political organization because Powell pointed out that can get problematic on a tax documents. And, and I think we just changed the last sentence, which is it's kind of our we're dedicated to the journey ahead confident that through solidarity and collective action, we can build a robust movement for socialism and create a better world for
all does that mean, we would need to resubmit the bylaws to for the tax document? Not
for the EIN? No, we only send over the EIN so we're good there. We didn't submit bylaws for the EIN we only submitted a mission statement, but not this mission statement. We had a different mission statement. So now we need to submit the bylaws to get the the 1024 and this is what we're going to submit in the bylaws with a 1024. Okay, cool. I'm sorry. He's confused.
No, no, I just want to make sure we're all clear. Yeah.
Okay, so moving on, Robin.
Yeah, yeah. If there's no discussion on that one, that's made sense to me. Anyway, makes sense. Everyone else? Cool. Okay.
So the next one is on memberships. So this was to address her point, Adri. So this clarifies that good standing is immediately conferred upon payment of dues and that the grace period applies, specifically to late payments. It also specifies that attendance at a meeting is required once per year to maintain good standing with the countdown beginning after dues payment. And additionally, the term place of worship has been added to the residency eligibility criteria to reflect broader inclusion of community involvement. So basically, with the modification as soon as you pay, you're a member in good standing.
And this goes into effect at the end of his meeting, right?
Yes. Um, so
if we adapt to the bylaw changes, yes. The bylaws. Yeah. Okay. Change to
any discussion on this. Okay, sorry, trying to go as fast. So censure and removal of members. This one expands the ability to recommend censure expulsion, for violations for the Code of Conduct include any member so any member can recommend someone for censure. In addition to the steering committee, it also clarifies that both individual members and a certain committee can initiate a censure or expulsion. Oh, yeah. Any comments on that?
Oh, Harpreet, can you go back to the previous slide about dues I just had a question about to be a member in good standing you must attend at least one regular meeting per year so is that from when you first paid your dues are from when you last made a dues payment
from when you first pay your dues? Okay.
Is that clear enough for ya?
Yeah, it says following the payment of their initial dues so
like that. Okay.
Um, all right. Do we have any comments on this one? Say no. disclosures. Okay, so this broadens the scope of mandatory disclosures to include all members, not just those steering seeking steering committee positions, ensuring greater transparency within within the org it refines the definition of employment position by citing the NLRB and focusing on roles with direct disciplinary power over the working class. So before we had what do we have supervisors or something, management for? Yeah, so yeah, we had someone who isn't particularly a boss, but might just have deposition anyways, because it's like salary. It also requires members to disclose leadership roles in any nonprofit org that collects significant funding thereby addressing potential conflicts of interest more comprehensively. The revision also designates the secretary as responsible for collecting and maintaining these disclosures, ensuring that any member in good standing can review this information freely and without seeking permission from the steering committee. So this would have to be hosted in a way on our forum or online, where anyone can just check and see what the information is without having to go through steering committee first. Any comments?
Okay, fair enough.
This is on parliamentary authority. So before we had said that Robert's rules govern whenever WC you has any like blank spots or blind spots in our bylaws. But this basically says that Robert's Rules are gonna serve as a guiding framework rather than strict governance for VCU. And it also acknowledges that our works established customs and traditional practices as valid procedural guidelines, provided that they promote fairness and democracy and don't conflict with any of the bylaws that we have already said, so this year, we were running into some conflicts with with Robert's Rules, where our bylaws weren't exactly clear, but we were had kind of established customs already for six plus months. So this is kind of just takes care of that. Any questions, comments? All right, almost done. All right. Okay, this is our nominations committee. This is basically the process that we went through last year for Elections Committee. The only changes that we added to what we did before was that we might have an extended nomination period, so during the general meeting preceding the election, so in November, if people can then nominate themselves if a position is still vacant, and if we by extending nominations for two more weeks, so you have two more weeks after the meeting in November to nominate yourself if we still don't have a position and the position is going to be declared vacant. And if it's if it's there's a vacant position basically, steering committee can fill it according to the other bylaws that are already in place. And then set a date for another election to happen once we have nominations or once you have someone that wants to run for that position. Any questions or comments on this one?
Thank God be clarified it Okay.
Okay. Is there a rank choice voting is racist.
Okay, so we're just gonna move to a majority voting systems to simplify the election process, making it more accessible and understandable for all members. And we're moving away from anonymous voting to having all voting being recorded to Hanson to basically enhance accountability and trust within the org. And then we're hoping that this level of transparency also just fosters more open discussion, and more frank discussion about the organization and the selection of the steering committee. And again, all voting records will be accessible to members in good standing upon request. Yeah. Any questions or comments on this one? Nope. Okay. Oh, thank god, that was it. All right. Robbie, do you want to close the section offense?
If there has was no discussion on any of them then we can move to do it all at once. So I guess is there a motion to accept the proposed bylaws changes?
I moved to accept the both bylaws dangus I need a second or anyone want a second? Right. Can you move as I cannot say socket? Join a second. All right, everyone in favor? Raise your hand.
I thought we had to record them or is that next time?
Well when we do but can you just see who's not raising the handle?
Okay, reactions. Raise your hand
everyone here is raising their hand. Adri Tanner, think I saw a difference and am
I waving or am I raising my hands? Okay.
Thank you all opposed.
My job was done unopposed are
and then I suppose we still count them all. Abstain?
Abstain. Okay.
Okay, so that is mine.
All right. Yep. Motion to set the bylaws change.
Thank you very much. All right. The worst part is over. So sorry. All right. New bill. Thank you,
everyone who did all the writing And then it was following.
Okay, reading group, do you want to present this? Riley? Yeah.
So I had created a reading group that was outside of WVU, several WSU members attended. They enjoyed it. So we had a meeting about how we would either fuse that reading group NWCU or create something similar NWCU, I generally did not want to just create it with my powers as the education coordinator, I would rather bring it to the general membership to vote on it. So that's what we're doing right here. Basically, it would be once a month, probably the second Wednesdays at 8pm. That would be variable depending something like that. Yeah, it'd be held on Zoom. But it would, it would probably be recorded, that way people who couldn't attend would be able to see what was going on that kind of stuff, I would need someone to do either rotating or CO facilitation with me. And it would basically, the point of the reading group, would be to build the theory for WSU, like what we believe as an organization, what we want to do going forward all that kind of stuff. And then secondarily, there would be a second reading group that would be less specifically focused on WC us thought that would be held on my Discord server that would be sponsored by the group. And it would be that would be, you wouldn't need to be a WS EU member to attend that. The our reading group might need to be members, we can decide on that as a group, though. Yeah, I think that's about it. So I guess I'll motion to create a reading group unless anyone wants to have a discussion on it.
Well, you moved.
Okay, well, then I moved to propose the reading group
by that. But real quick, just question. So we determined that we only want members in the WC reading group. Yeah.
Well, so that's part of the that's, after I do the proposal, that thing that we're gonna, one of the things we're gonna discuss is whether we want our reading group to be exclusive to us, or do we want it to be open to the public? Okay, so that we can use it as an outreach program, that kind of stuff. Gotcha.
Okay, just just checking. We're gonna go.
Okay, so just to, I guess, clarify. So the first reading group will kind of just be like the official who you want. So one thing was also just that members would take the reading material. So at like the next general meeting, hopefully someone proposes something, I'll vote on it, and then we'll have two plus weeks to read it. And then whatever ones they will, will read it. And yeah, like Riley was saying, hopefully, it's either to understand kind of our theory or also contextualize some current activity. So we're doing tenant union stuff right now. So it might be tenant union history or theory around that. And then the second reading group would be like a sponsorship. So kind of like how we do not how we did the park cleanup because we were co running that Yeah, but more like if we sponsor an event out like Louise Madonna's place Yeah, we're as members we don't really have any control over it. We're just going hey, this is cool. Check it out, and we'll put it on my calendar. But you Riley's discord group and then you have a vote as a member of this discord.
We also might want to add to our bylaws or something at some point like our code of conduct or whatever the difference between sponsorship and collaboration because I think that's going to be important going forward but
we did have some confusion during the last talk so yes, I think that it helps
anyone else no so I guess sir I'll just make two separate votes one to do the reading group and then one to sponsor
Yeah, no actually made the motion yet so
Oh, yeah. Okay, let me let me get how about this I will will motion for the WC reading group first and then after we're done with that, we'll do the sponsorship. Okay, I'll motion are up for the reading group proposal for WC reading group. And then I guess I need a second. Second All in favor 12345 That's looks unanimous. And power is up to you. Okay. Yes, unanimous. Just in case there's ghosts. Abstentions. Nobody? Nays nobody okay cool that's our Are there ghosts in that room that I can't see? Oh, you guys froze Oh no. Oh facilitate the rest of it without having the documents. That would not be good oh no, they do No.
They're like completely out
well Harpreet still the host I guess it's just his laptop crashed or something or died in anyways, Tanner. Majed has is that right? I don't know if I pronounced your right. Yeah, okay. Okay, they're back there. Nevermind. We don't have to get to know each other. Okay.
Yeah, we changed all the rules.
Okay, so what Where did you guys get cut off?
Oh, we got through the approval of the first one. I was gonna say that. As a rule, none of the steering committee can motion and second something at the same time. So if any of us are proposing anything we need a member to second.
Didn't I thought Adri seconded it. Yeah, I was just gonna say for oh, yeah, yeah, gotcha. Okay. For clarification, yeah. Good for the solidarity group. Yeah. Okay. So the second proposal would be a proposal for WSU to sponsor a reading group in the in like, it's my Discord solidarity group. Do I get a second? Second, Oh, paulose. All right. All in favor? Yes. I think there's okay. All those abstaining. And opposed. Adria, you're okay. So one abstention. And then everybody else said, Yes. Cool. All right. Beautiful.
Thank you, everyone. We will schedule the reading group at the end with our calendars.
Already, and then next week, where we're going to decide whether or not it was exclusive or not.
I know. Well, question, do we can we do we need to do that right now? Or do we do that at the first meeting of the reading group? Because like, is the reading group deciding that or are we as an organization deciding it?
I guess since we as an org voted for it. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay.
Okay, then pros and cons. I guess the way we should phrase it is all in favor of making it x like open to the public to participate. Okay, I'll make the proposal for that. And then do I have a second? Yeah.
Oh, second.
Okay, cool. All in favor of making it open to the public.
All abstaining. I think that was all opposed. Yeah. It's unanimous. All right. All right. Cool. Thank you for reminding me. That would have been a pain in the butt. Yep. Okay.
So this is moving on. So a tune is the autonomous tenant union network,
your share your screens, not sharing the document? Oh, dear God. Sorry. No, you're good. You
got it picked us up. Okay. So a second long part is coming. I'm sorry. But, so there wasn't a ton convention this past weekend. There's partial recordings of the second day that have been posted in the member only section. For the folks that are new. If you joined the forum. Please join the forum. Most of it is public. There's one section that is members only and we try to keep more things that shouldn't be exposed to public on there. I wasn't really watching the recording while it was recording, so I don't know if anything personal or anything was shared. So I just stuck it behind the member only section. I'll present whatever we watched at the next meeting, but um, how will you we're also there. Do you want to say anything about it now or do you want to wait until next meeting or do you want to just post about it?
I don't have anything to present right now. But I'll write out my notes and then put them behind them. member while on the discourse forum, okay.
Next is joining a tune to, like I said, a tune is like a national tenant union network. And so we've been trying to do, we've been doing tenant union work here, they a lot of our guidelines for how to run a tenant union kind of go off of unions in a tune. But one thing we haven't done is join a tune as a tenant union. And I think there could be some benefit to joining it. In order to join it. They do have some criteria, we follow all of it. I'm not going to read all of this, you can check it out? Well, I guess I have to read it, because we're gonna vote on this. So you have to join as a, as a union or an individual. They're defined as a group of tenants who have a strategy for building power beyond one building or complex, which is what we're trying to do, even though we're only trying in one spot, now. They need to use collective processes. Yes, they must agree with their points. So Unity, I'll go over those in a second. They must abide by the decisions of elected arbiters and the delegate Council. But in their bylaws, they actually say that their delegate Council has no power over individual members. So it's a little contradictory. And then you can disaffiliate at any time, and the dues would be 50 a year for us because we don't have more than 50 members. But I think the benefit for us would be that there's this like worldly knowledge, or wealth of knowledge that comes from all of these organizers, we could actually tap into it instead of figuring everything out all on our
own. We're sorry, what was the part that was contradictory?
They said that this slide here, can you see my mouse? Yes. That you need to seek to join must agree to abide by the decisions of the elected arbiters and the delegate council. So there are like arbitration, there are arbiters that do that, like if there's conflicts and stuff. So that would apply but the delegate Council, I'll go over that also at the end. They also said that no union has to listen to the delegate council. So that was contradictory.
Oh, okay. I get what you mean.
I think it's more like, if the delegate council together decide something about a tune, then everyone has to go along with it. Like you can't split a tune into your own thing, I guess.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you will. That's the way it has the disaffiliation. Right. Did he Confederation? Yeah.
Okay, just raise your hand or just speak up. If you have any questions. I'm just gonna run through this a little quickly. The points of unity. We organizers run by and for our members, we're not under the direct direction of paid staff, board directors state agencies were funded by our members, rather than grants for major donors. We define a tenant as anyone who does not have control over their housing. For us tenants includes house tenants tenants, or squatting tenants inside carceral punishment system, nursing homes, university and state institutions are fighting for tenants not housing. We recognize as across crisis of tendency, a crisis of our place in the overall system of social reproduction, calling this a housing crisis benefits those who design build and profit from housing, not the people who live in it. We are not service organizations, we are movement of organizations. As such, we practice and build solidarity, not charity. We assess that the interest of landlords and tenants are fundamentally sorry, it's just a lot. Okay. It's stuff that okay, for team members, or for people or have been a part of the team. You work. This is basically a lot in agreement what we do already. Yeah, okay. They stand back. Yeah. Sorry. What?
Just say because we went to the
microphone. All right.
I don't know if it's actually working. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's good. Thanks. Okay. I want to say really quickly. These points of unity are specifically one of the points that I noticed was specifically to address the fact that a lot of these tenant orgs start, and then end up becoming, they end up being run by their sort of host, which would be WVU, rather than tenants themselves. So we're trying to focus on a lot of these points of unity are to prevent something like that from happening. It wants the tenants to advocate for the tenant union, not the org hosting the tenant union. So we are an org hosting a tenant union.
That that was that actually answers the question I was just about to ask because I was like, what if we change our focus campaign away from two years from tenant organizing,
ya know, so. So then we would we would get disaffiliated from a tune and our tenant associations would not remain affiliated with a tune, because they specifically say they want only groups that have a network of tenant unions of tenant associations, not just your building. So if you're only in one building, then you can't qualify to join a team. Say what Have to be us. And then if we stop focusing on this, then the
will well, we would just have to create us a second organization laid up
to do it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'd have to put them in touch with each other, and then they can form something separate. But yeah, they would get disaffiliated. Oh, what a
problem we'll have when we have multiple tenants.
This is definitely a problem for us down the road. Yes.
Can I get a clarification on the criteria. So when you apply to join a tune, you have to have TAs and multiple buildings or you have to be aspiring to have multiple, multiple TAs and your union.
Aspiring, okay. Because very few have anything, folks that
had like, done just one building, we saw folks that did entire complexes. It was interesting, because the folks that did just one building ended up kind of not, they were sort of aspiring to get more but they were they lost their first building, essentially. So it's all about keeping up with it. And I mean, that's like you're saying, Riley, the the focus campaign, as long as his focus campaign is going to be something we're affiliated with. Okay.
Okay. stand in solidarity with tenants around the world. Support land backed by indigenous peoples, which is vague enough which Okay.
Preparations are DBT language justice, and they organize democratically? Sure, give everyone a second read over everything. Basic, Lefty slash Limbourg stuff.
All right. So their structure, this we should probably go into a little bit. They have a delegate Council organizing committee and group arbiters from reading the Organising Committee was only in place in the first year to make a tune. And then arbors basically just arbitrate when there are conflicts. But for the delegate Council, so for us, each affiliated tenants union, so us, we'd have to send one person to be a delegate. And you serve a one year term, but you can't serve more than two years in a row. The delegate Council is empowered to make decisions and payments on behalf of a tune. Oops. Yeah, that's what I meant to groups that decide to join a tune will be considered to be autonomous and self directed that is to delegate councils non power to direct individual unions work. So that's what I meant by it was a little contradictory. They convened once a month. And yeah, basically, through the delegate Council, you decide what to do with a and if you get accepted. The delegate Council will make decision by consensus, which is 75%, supermajority after discussion. The rest of it is mostly normal stuff. The tenant unions reserve the right to remove and replace their own organizational delegate for any reason. So we can have recall on our on our delegate, which I guess we do, already, and then they have an annual Congress, which is once a year, that's their highest decision making body and the Congress can amend their bylaws or scrap it or replace it with something else by a simple majority. And I think that was it. Okay. So sorry, that was super quick. If anyone wants to go back through, we can go back through that's totally understandable. Basically, the benefit of joining a tune is that we would get access, I think, to their discord, and more access to other organizers that have a lot more experience doing this work than we do. And so it would just be a place for us to basically get more knowledge about what we're doing. I didn't really see any downsides from what I read. Because we can pull out at any at any time. The only responsibility we have is electing a delegate to go to these meetings once a month. And then the once a year, can't where are the meetings that they would be on Zoom? Oh, okay. That's yeah, yeah, they're all over the country. So they have to be on them. Yeah. Okay, anyone have any questions, comments?
Can we go back to the first slide with the criteria criteria?
Saying like getting on the third bullet, tenant union should use collective processes among their membership to decide whether to join like a tune in So I'm wondering, like, if their expectation is that, you know, everyone in the union has like a voting say, and I'm like wondering you know, does that mean like they're expecting us to like include the people we're trying to unionize? And the TA?
I think that that kind of my question kind of stacks on to that which is, is the WC ut eu a separate organization from us or is it the same organization as us?
Yeah, because we haven't really sorted out that question yet if they are members, like expect it to be if the people in the tea are expected to be like, WC EU members as well. And to participate in other things that WC EU does outside of the TA or if they're just ta people only or T u people me
so just super quick off of like, what, from the conversations we had with other people I honestly don't know their bylaws. They did not really seem to regard the tenants as a part of their board directly. It was always like we are doing these things for the tenants. We are trying to get them to like meet together and stuff. It was always like a different thing coming in. And I guess so far for us it's been or at least my hope is through the to you to recruit people into WC you like them forming a local TA is kind of a separate thing than them joining WC you to join the to you. And that's kind of the firewall is, again we like if they want to take you to live on like they should join the ECU and then fight for the to you. But if we as members decide to disband, that doesn't stop there TA, like if their involvement is limited at the TA level, then it doesn't really affect them.
But yeah, well,
I what I think part of what I was wondering is that if the WC EU pennant union is a separate thing from us, right? Then if we decided to shift focus to a new campaign, that tenant union continued, can continue to exist on its own and keep organizing tenants in the San Joaquin County area. And it would also not lose its affiliation with a tune at the same time. Whereas if we, if we keep it as like a an Oregon, of WC, EU, then if we change focus campaigns, it loses affiliation, all the people in there basically can't continue doing their organizing under that umbrella, or whatever, you know, a metaphor we want to use. Yeah, well,
I mean, we wouldn't want to, I mean, we wouldn't wouldn't want them to call themselves WC at you then anyways. I mean, if it comes to that, then ideally, any ta organizers that are like up at the level of the WC. Org, that would want to continue the work, like ideally, we'd help them. Because this is all new paperwork to form, make it be a separate entity. Like all the tax stuff that we haven't done
is doubled. To go do we do you have to be a nonprofit to join a tune?
I mean, if they want to do work, I guess, like, I assume them, they need to be a nonprofit. I mean, you don't need to be a nonprofit join a tune. But I think if you want to, like there's really no point in
because like most of the organizations I ever come across, we're not nonprofits, they just kind of it's like a group of people who work together.
Yeah, that's true. In which case, I mean, what's the difference right now is that, like, there's no one to hand it off to, other than making extra work for ourselves, because we'd have to have a completely separate forum and website, etc. To keep it separate enough to be able to be handed off. Versus well,
maybe what we should do is once we get the tenant association and Calvillo going and see how the people they're, like, what they're thinking, if they want to have like a like an you know, if we have a separate a second building or whatever, it's not just us organizing a single community. You know, at that point, if they want to, like they want our help to form attendant union, maybe then, you know, we deal with it them.
Sure. I guess my only pushback would be I don't want these people to limit themselves to a tee you like the point but like the U is coming do other stuff other than just make a tea you and like, that's it?
Yeah, I don't see why they would be limited. Like they could still join us.
No, I know, but you have to kind of push people to do stuff, you know, like if they come to the meeting to be like,
okay, so I go You mean you want to you want to bring them to the general meeting. So they're participating in everything that we do. Okay, I understand what you mean what you're getting at, okay.
Yeah. But I mean, if we do grow big enough, and that and we still want to disaffiliate to you then I think We would have a responsibility to get them set up before we disaffiliate it.
Yeah, cuz I think the one major like kink in that is like, because we can just stop a focus campaign basically, whenever he if I was them, I would feel very tenuous, right. And so I would want some assurances. We weren't just going to change focus or whatever.
Then they could join. WC. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
That will be a tactic. Yeah,
if you don't want to participate? We're
sorry, sorry. Okay. Yeah,
let's go. Scratch that.
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna be like, let's watch the most recent recording about NWCU. See what they talked about? Okay, sorry. Any other questions? I guess to clarify for the new folks. Yes, definitely, maybe we should have like an SOP for specifically this, since we do owe it to other I mean, our tenant associations for if we do decide to vote this down, that we're going to accomplish some steps before we're able to vote it out completely. Since it's not exactly the same as other focus campaigns. But I mean, that's true for everything. Like even when they were trying to unionize Starbucks. They just dropped it eventually. isn't like Starbucks got unionized. So I think at a certain point, that's just what happens. But I think for this, we should probably have something. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I'm just a little up in the air. Because, you know, if this was something that we had already decided was going to be a permanent feature, we're always going to do like tenant union stuff, then I'd be like, yeah, sure, of course, join a two. But since we haven't locked in on that yet. That's I'm like, a little unsure. But yeah, those are just my comments.
Okay, and just to clarify for Tanner, and Majed. So we have like, we have to kept focused campaigns. So those are two things that we spend a majority of our time on. And last year, we voted for tenant unions to be one of those things. And we have to renew the focus campaign every six months. And basically, this is an internal check for us to make sure we're not just doing something over and over again, while not having a lot of success with it. And it gives us a chance to reflect and then do something else. But of course, with the tenant union, you know, we have a WC u t, which is basically run by us. tenant associations are like per building or per neighborhood. And so we have one going, or we are trying to form one in Calvillo right now. And assuming we build another one, I like a different apartment complex. Those folks who would be relying on our organization to have access to things like a tune if we decide to join. And so the worry is just we do have a very quick way of stopping a focus campaign if we feel like we're not doing a very good job at it, and we're wasting time. And so the worry is, is we just quit doing any union work and leave those people high and dry.
And for a little bit of context, we had our first tenant meeting last month. So you've been in Oregon for what, eight months. So we after we renewed our tenant campaign, our 10 unit campaign, and then we had our first meeting last month. So it it's a little slow going, but it we had turnout. And we basically go door to door and ask people, Hey, are there issues and the Calvillo apartments have a lot of issues. So if you know anyone? Well, if you know anyone Calvillo or any really housing complex, we can, we can link up with them and try and figure out what we'll organize basically, and we'll get them to come out to a meeting, especially
if they're one of the ones that's owned by the big. There's a couple of like apartment complexes in Stockton that are owned by like large organizations that own every building. Those I would, those ones would be good to target because they they would be easy to organize. And also the people they're the people on them suck or the corpse that open them suck.
The issue with Cavalia is there's a million different landlords, it's just a bunch of townhouses that are all in disorder. They're just, they're kind of a mess. So we have to like go to separate landlords. And our plan is to go to the homeowners association. And the homeowners are also landlords, not all of them, but most of them are. So that creates a mess. So like we just we got ourselves in a can of worms here. But it would be probably be a little easier if we stuck it to one of the bigger companies. By and large agencies.
Yeah. But they are somewhat uniquely terrible. Yeah. are very willing to come out and join at any union. Yes, we
found a lot of willing people.
It's about there. Yeah. All right.
Any other comments? I suppose we can move this with He added amendment that we're going to have kind of an exit process. In like, by the time the six months are up, have kind of an exit process in place in case we voted down in July or June. But any other questions?
Okay, so I'm going to move to approve us sending a tuna affiliation request with the amendment that the focus campaign to focus campaign will will prepare, like an exit strategy before the next renewal period, that would allow any tenant association that is formed to link up with any other tenant association we have formed to form a separate organization that allowed them to carry on doing the work that we're doing now. Can I get a second please? Join us second. Did
you need to name a delegate in that affiliation request form?
Um, no, that's something we have to vote on later.
This wouldn't there's no way this could be approved until our next meeting, basically. Right. So we're probably not going to have to vote on this until our next general meeting. Correct? I mean, the delegate?
Yeah. I don't know how long they take to respond. But even for the delegate, I guess we can talk about it now. Should it be the focus bogus campaign? Probably someone else? Yeah. I mean, for now, I think that's an okay default. If they get and you can substitute them out. Like, it's not like the person is trapped for a year.
I was gonna say, Can we can we send more than one delegate? Do they care about that? Only one vote. Yeah, but I mean, did it? Oh, yeah. Allow observers?
I don't know. Okay, I assume they do. Because it sounds dumb.
Harpreet, do you want to? Do you want to be the sacrificial lamb or?
I mean, yeah, okay. I don't know if we need to vote on it. Since already campaign, we would just leave it as is. Until next time, and then we can like officially put
that thing on the floor. We got to vote on it first, no matter what.
True. Okay. So we got a second from Joanna. Everyone favor
that we approve the affiliation request and make a proud idea for getting it. Right. Okay.
Okay, anyone oppose? And anyone? Abstain? Abstain. All right. Thank you very much. Um, all right. So sorry, that's all the worst stuff. Though, the one thing we talked about a steering was having a new new member orientation. So we've gone through our, you know, two weeks of getting yelled at by the Democrats. But we also did get a lot of new followers, I guess online and a few more people signed up on the Webflow forum as well, like submitted their emails that kind of look like spam at times, but I think people are just misspelling out who. So we wanted to have a new member orientation, basically, for recruiting teaching new members about the structure to VCU and our current campaigns. This is not something that all members have to attend, especially if you've been here for a while. But as you want to want to basically just be a new member orientation. So we'll schedule it at the end. And then flyers, I was just thinking of tossing this idea to everyone. What if we had a combination on these fires of recruiting for WVU, the T, U and E walk? That way, if we can schedule a place and a time to recruit, we have all those three things on there. Any comments on that? We'll schedule later but yeah, no,
I like the idea that we have all of those, the combination of three and then a little description of what each one is so they know, okay, we're not just to you. We're not just an org where we do all kinds of stuff.
We're a big boy. We're a power player. Okay, the tenant union actions. So I reached out to Louise about getting the 24th that is when a bunch of us there is a link at the end of the koggala megathread for indicating when you're free. Hopefully we can get that spot for our next meeting with everyone. We do have to canvass for like least who He's about getting more signatures on like, a letter for cockroaches. And we still got to get a few of the tenants out to help us write that letter. And then also dropping a flyer with meeting notes. So just saying we met at this time, here's kind of what we went over. Here's what our next meeting is, basically, has been waiting to get a finalization on that to move on. Does anyone else have any comments from like our last tenant union? Meeting with everyone or anything else they'd like for us to work on between now? And then?
Do we so we have something to like a new petition was for the cockroaches specifically?
Yeah, so I wanted to get at least one of the members, or one of the tenants to help us write it. Since we said, we're not going to, you know, write stuff ourselves. Um, so yeah, once we have that, then we'll go out and get signatures for that
QR code, are we going to Canvas and hand them out and be like,
we should get like hand signatures from people. But we can also do QR code for people we don't get to meet. Yeah, sounds good.
Oh, sorry.
Eat the microphone.
Question. Should we go starting next month? start posting the our general meeting link in the tenant union, Whatsapp group so that they can attend if they want.
Yeah, that sounds great. Okay.
I have a quick question. Are separate dues due for joining the BCU to you or do your W cu dues applied to the tenant union as well.
So we only have WC EU dues. And then joining WC to you as a, like only a Tenant Association member. So a tenant association would be like the caovilla Tenant Association. If those people don't want to interact with us beyond like that, and they don't come to our meetings, and they don't have to pay dues.
Okay. And if they want, if they want to collect dues within their own organization, yeah, I was gonna say, Yeah,
that's what they, yes, they Yeah, if they want to do that, then they'd have to set up their own structure to do that. Judge.
Which probably shouldn't be something we tell them how to do. Yeah.
Question. So this, these canvassing days would be the week before this 24th meeting or the two weeks before? So like, one day each week, or like two days in one week?
Whenever so we'll look at the calendar. Okay. Yeah. Ideally, it's a little bit before meeting, or a while before meeting, so we have time. Okay. Our new website is up, it's pretty bare bones at the moment. But if you go to working class community.com Now there is a new website. If you click join, you can actually pay dues now. And then if you go to these links here, you can change your membership so you can cancel your membership. And you can also update your billing at this address. And you can also I believe, put in the option of saying I'll pay in cash later. So yeah, like I said, it's pretty bare bones. I have done not that much work on it. We don't even have a nav bar. But it is what it is.
Did we did we do the bank accounts? Or is it like getting held in whatever the dues, so
it runs through stripe, and I think Stripe holds it for a little bit. And then it goes into my bank account, unfortunately, but everyone on steering has access to stripe. And so you will be able to see all the money flowing in the stripe. So yeah, you will have a record of whatever I O WC you through dues
and million dollars.
No, I believe Adri has paid some dues ahead of time. And I think I signed up and it was working. We're just gonna convert that into, like donations. I think you were okay with that. Adrian? Yes. Okay. But that old one is cancelled now, so you shouldn't get charged for it anymore. And so from now on, we'll do dues. I guess we should take a vote on like starting. Maybe by next month. You have to be paying dues to become a member or be counted as a member. Since we've been very loosey goosey with it so far yeah yes,
yes, everyone better pay up.
Trader level please everyone. Yeah, yeah.
Are we still have the levels? Yeah.
So we still have the levels. There's no, there's no language on there saying this yet, but the different levels don't mean anything. Everyone is equal. You just pay more. Because you love us more. That's all.
Do we have to? Do we have to reregister?
On the site. So you have no accounts on there. Now you have to remake a new account. Okay. All right. Yeah, sorry.
How much are the dues monthly?
It's $10 a month.
Okay. Where do I get one of those snazzy shirts that you guys are wearing there?
Let me know your size. In a DM or something. We have some spare shirts. But I think we set a rule as you get it after two months. Yeah. Nice. covers the cost of the shirt for us. So
pick Yeah.
It's like See's Candy fundraising. A modern days?
Wait, no. Can we we need to do that we need to go from place to place like we you want to join our training unit and buy some See's Candy at the same time.
It's all Yeah, it's it finds itself.
Again, if anyone has any experience with web design, please let me know. But But yeah, for now, the website should work on mobile. Also, I didn't test it on mobile. Okay. So yeah. And like I said, it's pretty bare bones. But it's something and it's been something I've been really slow to get done. So
really, for that. So pretty complicated.
No, we don't need to pay for shirts, you get it after being a member for two months, or after paying for dues for two months.
You're indirectly but real quick about the website. Before we didn't have a join page. So now we can just if anyone is interested, just redirect them to the website.
Yeah, we still got to do some behind the scenes work in terms of like onboarding people. But we have a little bit of an update on that. But you can actually join us are paying dues, which we did not have before. We had a broken ass Join button that didn't work. Um, okay. Moving on, or sorry. Any questions about this before we move on? Okay, and I know Powell had brought up wanting a cache option for some folks. I believe that option is there, let me know if it doesn't work. Okay. Form update. So one, this is our forum is that chat dot working class unity.com. You can check it out, there is a new section on there called docks on the left, we will be using it to post more like SOPs and our bylaws and everything. So if you go there, I put the code of conduct there, because we haven't changed it yet. The bylaws will be there. It does track change. So it's just like a forum post. So if you go to it, and you click on it, you can go to like see discussion for this. And so you can kind of comment as a normal discussion. But this can serve as kind of the place where we put SOPs, or we put important VCU documents. And it's at a place where anyone can or should anyone be able to make a thread. So it's not like on the website where it's really inaccessible for members to kind of post documents. And lastly, is the forum update. So we have wiki edits, which I just discovered recently, so we have like AWS EU tasks such category but the kind of limitation before was if you signed up to do a task, like leave a comment, but you can really edit the original post until the person who posted it went in and said okay, assign this to whoever signed up for it. You so you can just click this orange icon here and it will let you edit the original post in the WSU task category. So if you have stuff that needs to get done, you can make a post like this and then if someone wants to sign up to do it because you have a free moment you can just edit click on this edit the post write your name next to it and then once you're done just put in an extra mark that it's done. And so this was this is up there now about the membership automated emails. So these are some of the templates that we need like kind of a welcome email dues are renewing email etc. So if you have like a spare 15 minutes and you want to work on something, this is something to work on. The other limitation has been steering committee really being really bad about delegating stuff like this. But But yeah, we've been trying to research like different project management software like to do is or like plain, which is like an open source version of linear, but it's a whole new piece of software which I've been really hesitant to like do for people but at least with this way, this thing, I think works just fine. So if you want to do stuff, and you're like I have free time, I'm not going to enjoy life, I'm gonna help WC you instead, then just go to the WC task portion of our forum. And you can find stuff there. Yeah, yes. Okay, any questions about this. And again, anyone can post NWCU tasks. So if you have something like on your own that you want WC to use, and you need help, go ahead and post. Okay, and lastly, is our calendar. So these are the again in Orange was just what steering committee had penciled in for dates. I guess we can just go one by one and just see if everything sounds okay with everyone. We were, we were saying let's do new member orientations on Thursday, which seems soon, so we can move it to the 21st. But I think the other thing we were talking about was that since the Palestine actions have just happened, we wanted to not make it sound like we only did them for recruiting. But we also don't want to wait like, two, three weeks when everyone will forget what WC u is. So that's why we had said the 14th. If we do do it on the 14th, we'd have to use Monday as kind of a working meeting to get our presentation done. Who's down for like, helping and attending that? Or at least helping you don't have to attend? I'm
just thinking like, if we do hold it on the 14th. Like, it doesn't give that much time to like, put out like social media stuff, like because you're you're saying like you're going to work on it on a Monday. And so whatever you publish will only have like the 12 and the 13 to circulate. So
we'd have to post it tomorrow, basically. And then on it on the 11th. Yeah.
And then you were talking about working on the presentation for during the meeting, right? Yeah.
So yeah, like I said, there's like five or six people who have signed sent their email in the last couple months on the VCU one person like the last month. And there's also other people have signed on to all over like our policy and action so we can email all of them. But new member orientation. So there's kind of a pool of people that we can contact and see if anyone wants to come. By but we need I guess we need some folks available Monday and then possibly also Tuesday to work on the presentation. Or this weekend. And then we need at least like one or two people to do the new member orientation or be there. I'm assuming we can we hold it here?
I'm I'm definitely gonna be there for sure. So
Ravi, can you hold it here? Will this place be open?
On a Thursday? It should be? I can double check the laughter. Okay.
Yeah, thoughts, feelings?
If we if we're trying to do it in person, I would like to push it a little bit later, maybe because my job has been like, hold me real late lately.
Yeah. What time was the was it proposed to start on the 14th?
I think we've had six, but we can do 630 or something. Okay,
either. I'll be there either of those times. So
does that work for you? Riley? 36.
Sorry. Yeah. So I can do 630 I mean, it'll be cutting it. But yeah, sure.
We'll do an icebreaker first. And I should
start at six 615.
A lot this time. What was gonna say? My only thought was, just because we don't know what new members availability will be. If we should suggest, like, I would feel more comfortable if we had at least two dates that we know were available. And then those are the two dates that we suggest to these promotional members.
Are we still using crab fit for scheduling maybe?
Yeah, well, okay. So none of these knew. None of the people have said like they're interested in joining it was more like an opportunity for anyone to come. So there's no open invitation. Yeah.
This hybrid or thinking hybrid or now?
I want to say no, for the first one,
maybe not. But it would be an interesting thing to Paul maybe see what people thought.
I feel like hybrid would make it easier for Pete like because like hybrids less of a commitment, right? And if we want to bring in as many people as possible, hybrid might be easier.
But I think we want the opposite. Like we want people to come and be invested.
Yeah, well, right. But Are they going to come and be invested? Or are they going to be like, well, that's for the first time. That's too much, and I don't want to go, and then just never show up again. Yeah.
I mean, we can do one day digital Monday hybrid, like Adrian was saying.
Yeah, just for accessibility, like, disabled people want to be invested and maybe just can't leave their houses. You know, like just thinking about that, or not disabled people, but people who like, it's just really tight to make those things fit. And it's easier if they can just get home join. Well,
we can do the 14 hybrid.
Okay. Yeah. I think if we have the materials, ready, I mean, they should just translate over. We're
going to do new member orientation, but we're also going to do a social event. Right? So maybe what we do is we have new member orientation be hybrid, and then the social events just in person. Oh, yeah.
Love it. Okay, so I read. So we definitely need at least two people here. Just one to one to be the Zoom person. Okay.
I will do my best to be there on time.
So who can help out on? I guess let's just start this over the weekend, who can help out? The weekend, we'll leave open. Let's just say who can help out on Monday, since that's kind of our official day.
I'll be in the working meeting. I was planning on doing database stuff, but I can try.
Yeah, remember, we took over last time? tenor and Magette. If you want to join us on Monday go for it. It would help from like the perspective of new members to know, what's a mystery to you and what's not?
Oh, yeah. For real,
though, our Monday working meetings are online, only there? What same thing six or seven?
I think so. That's what we had, right?
And you could just hop in, we could do like a 15 minute like just like q&a, and just see like, hey, what do you think about this? Would this be helpful information?
It really would be useful to get new members, like perspectives, especially for me. So
I'll text you guys.
I think I might be able to I'll see what I got going on.
It honestly goes on till like 11 o'clock sometimes. So you can always drop in. Whenever
this is true, okay. I have a tendency
to devolve away from work and into a social meeting. So yeah,
it's definitely just the Hangout hour. All right. Let's do the reading group next, I guess. So if we are going to vote on. So our meetings are always the first Thursday? Should we give her if we do the third Wednesday? That's only like a week and a half? Yeah, yeah. So should we just do the last Wednesday of every month? To give ourselves maximum time to read whatever assigned reading?
Oh, wait, are we gonna hold a reading group this month since we haven't voted on one yet? Or we were going to vote on it in that meeting?
So I'm voting.
Well, I post so I posted what we're like what we're going to read for the first meeting. But that was when we before we had like, decided to vote on it and stuff. So I propose that we just take those things that we were supposed to read anyways, at for the first meeting, and then if people haven't read them, it's not a big deal. We can decide on something else to read at the first meeting. It for everyone's cool with that.
Okay, yeah, I mean, I was gonna propose like a TPU thing, but that's fine, too. I guess we have a month, we can do two things. Do you want to do like your, your video and like a T you thing? Sure. Yeah. Or what was the or is that what you meant? Or the other stuff that we put? I
had a video and you had suggested
DS for something? Yeah. Yeah. The
cybernetics thing. Yeah, thank you. That's not saying we can modify. It's not binding because we didn't vote on it. It was just a suggestion basically from the other group.
Did you guys do that yesterday?
No, yesterday I had the RPG that's why it's twice a month instead of four times.
Yeah. Okay. You only sent our suggestions of like what we wanted to put up as an option but no voting. Okay.
But those suggestions are afraid that Riley's discord thing, not for them, or what we can do. The reading group
suggests some of them were on the forum on the discourse forum. So those ones would be NWCU things and the ones that were in the discord are for the solidarity reading group.
Okay, Okay, I just want to make sure I don't know if Adria if you intended that for that to be in Riley's thingy or if you wanted that to be on the discourse form my thing? No, at least they suggested a title on the discourse or oh gosh, I'm messing up the discord server. Sorry,
Discord. I think maybe that's what I'm getting confused by this course in discord. But no, I was talking about the discord group. And we only we just only suggested that haven't voted something so but that is separate Yeah. Okay,
so then do we do we what we want to do? Do we want to go with the things that have been posted on the forum? Or do we want to go with the tenant union recommendation and that video for the first reading
but anything is just like kind of to history per article about the history of tenant unions, one in UK and one in New York.
Because the WC one is supposed to be more kind of like inclined towards like what we're actually working on. So sounds appropriate? Do anybody use somebody cool? Or do we want to? How about this, everybody in favor of using the stuff that was posted in the forum say I don't?
I haven't seen it. I'm trying to find the right now. Sorry.
Okay. That's fair. In the meantime, while she's looking for it, do you want to? Do we want to move on to something else? So we can like or okay, we can come back to this?
Yeah. Okay, so the depth of left on we scheduled for the 28th We figured it would be a Thursday because we want to bring people out. So it'd be Thursday evening, you know, kind of a dinner event somewhere where we can eat in semi hosts don't know where yet. But basically would be beginning of it would be kind of a discussion or kind of a presentation. But then we talk about you know, what's gone what we think has gone wrong since 2016 tactics that work and no longer work in our opinion. And kind of the best ways forward for the broad left. So yeah, there's what about the 28th for everyone? How does that sound? Where are we suggesting? Anyone have a suggestion for other days?
Probably it's good to be
like who can make it?
I mean, I should be able to again, it depends on the time but I should be Yeah.
I should be able to make it to that one.
Robbie pelo Majid
Yeah, same as privately it just depends on the time and the place.
Hopefully. Okay, be sure at this point.
Do we hold it in a cemetery since it's called the death of the left and be held goth?
What a social toga
followed us on a uninstall? Yeah. Goes to Stockton. They're leftists.
Oh, good. The stock didn't liked or Palestine boasts. Really? Yeah, that's cool to
the sandwich place. Togo's are telling us.
Oh, my God, you're the manager probably forgot to like switch accounts or something. I'm
just saying I didn't even know togo still existed. But okay, that's awesome.
I know.
I don't want it at Taco Bell.
We gotta go in solidarity.
Why is Lauren bowburn washing her feet in the sink? What the fuck is going on?
Riley please focus.
Sorry, I was trying to find Togo's His thoughts are being
recorded.
A she's the one who posted it. I look it up. Oh, it was locked in.
Okay, the Do we have? Can we take a vote on the reading group now or do we want to do something else? What are we doing there?
Okay. Everybody in favor of tenant union? Reading. say aye.
Aye. Aye. Aye.
John is saying yes.
Everybody abstained. All right. That's basically unanimous, I think. Right. All opposed, just to be clear. Okay, cool. So we'll do some tenant union reading. Cool.
Yeah. If you could just post that on the thingy later. Yeah.
And then, whenever Riley your thing is scheduled for the the video and the cybernetics thing? Yeah,
that should be the third. So it should be the 13th because I thought we were originally I thought we were going to do ours on the 13th. But since that's not going to happen The salt the solidarity should be on the 13th at 8pm.
Okay, and that is a discord link.
I will send it to you. Okay, we're all or where do we want to post it to Anna posted in the WhatsApp or on the forum that
works? Once we get the calendar up we can just have the link for the calendar direct here. Discord
quite also a question does WhatsApp let us pin things like multiple thing one? Just one at a time. Okay.
I think it's only one. Okay,
I bet you have to pay for more than one. Oh, can
we can we put something on the calendar for the temporary working group?
Yeah. That's also one more thing. Sorry. Do we have anything else left? Before we do that? So more importantly, caovilla canvassing? Yeah, so we need to can was at least twice. We figured one Thursday since it's our Thursday Thursday to do things. But it seemed like everyone was more available on the weekend. Last time.
So 16th, maybe?
Sure. So we can usually what did we do noon?
Yeah, we did like noon, or noon? Like,
I think we said, I think we said noon. We always started at one. So let's just say noon to three. But really more like 123. Yeah. So basically for, for the canvassing. I think the 16 would be good this weekend doesn't work, because we don't actually have like anything written up yet. But we basically would be going door, we have a record of people who said they had complaints about roaches before. So even for the folks that said that they weren't interested in the meeting, we'd still go to them. And say if they want to sign on to our letter, the letter would be going to the code enforcement people. And we're basically just hoping that if we can have a letter signed by, you know, 20 different units, that it's something to listen to versus right now what happens is people go one by one. And code enforcement basically just blows them off, like the lady that DM does, on the forum said that code enforcement came out once and directly talk to her landlord. And the landlord said that it's her fault. And then the code enforcement just left. So yeah, so that's why we're hoping a stronger letter will be more helpful. So oh, sorry, steering committee should be on the 18th is not on Sunday. So the 16th So that worked for anyone else. 12123. That's a Saturday.
Actually won't be available that that day. But if majority are still available, of course, like we could do Sunday happy. Yeah, it might be the bowl. That's
question the St. Patrick's Day. It's
not like a holiday holiday. Okay.
The TCU meeting is on the 24th which is Sunday. Right? Could we do two Saturdays in a row?
Yeah, you can do 16 and 23.
Because we don't we don't have any rallies or anything planned for this month so far. Right.
Rallies? No. Yeah.
I mean, okay. Cool. Because, like, if it's conflicting with, you know, something CV bipoc Or like any of them are planning. You know, okay, cool.
No, that's something I'm maybe we can talk about in the last 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. So okay, who can go 16 and 23 then or 23? Before we schedule them to be available
anyone else
I might be able to do 23. And this is just we're door knocking and trying to them to get or to get signatures for this this letter, or am I misunderstanding?
Yeah, no, that's it. I'm just asking them to come to the 24th to you. Okay.
And I think I can do the 23rd
Okay. Anyone else?
I could probably do 23rd
I think I could do it
and you said that would that would start at like noon probably.
Yeah. Like noon. Um Anyone on the 16th? Or what about the 21st? And before that also that would be more four to six ish. Or maybe five to 630.
Well, we'll be getting more sunlight after this weekend, actually. So yeah.
Thursday just hard because I don't know when I get out of work. I mean, I usually get home by five, but that's not a guarantee.
Yeah, that's where I'm at too. Yeah.
Okay, anyone else in further 21? Because we can move it if no one can make it.
Alright, I was just checking my calendar, the 21 if it's starting, or it's on for dyslexia, I can make that one.
On one Bella, yes.
Yeah, we can do that. So he was saying, if we can do 1617 as fuck states? I mean, does the 17 just work better for people? 16 We should probably leave, because we might have some rally or something. Who knows?
Yeah, I just don't know if like, I'm in the middle of like, applying for jobs and stuff. So I just don't know, like, fully what my availability is going to look like the rest of the month. But I'm going off of just what it's been currently, but I'm just leaving that open. And in case other people may be less than those other days. I know for me, I can't do 16. So 17th would probably be that other that flex day that I might be able to. And then 21st And 23rd would likely be fine for me.
Yeah, 17 works.
But just in case, because I know like we've planned something and you know, things come up, that at least we would have another date that
anyone else can you do the 17th? Which is a Sunday?
I can't do the 17.
Yeah, I can't do weekends at those times.
Okay, well, there's three of us. So that should be okay. All right. But again, if anyone wants to just you can come Thompson ahead of time. All right, so we have stuff on I'm gonna see if I can fill this out real quick.
We should, just is like part of our standard operating kind of like, we should try to remember to post things like the canvassing the day before on the WhatsApp. That way everyone is reminded in you know, with enough time where they go, Oh, I'm free tomorrow, we can go do that.
Are we able to post the scheduling website that you have for for like, a month at a time? I know it sounds like a lot. But I think so. Maybe we could use that in the future ahead of time. Yeah. Like just like, before the meeting when we posted a reminder for the meeting be like, Hey, if you know you're not if you can't be these days, then that would maybe cut down some calendar some of this.
Yeah. And you can sync your calendar to it. So it can just you can just go crap
fit sync to Google Calendar. Yeah. Oh, sick. Okay.
Okay, so then the things we got left were like Paula was saying the Okay, so
what time is the the meeting on the 24th that the public meeting?
I'm asking him about two to four. That's when crowd fit said most people are free. So the two more things are flyering and public facing materials meeting, which we could just make the topic of the Monday working meeting since we'll be done with orientation by then. So maybe that's something we want to do.
Okay, which which Monday the 11th The
25th Oh, the 25th Yeah. And again, by we can like for everything you can comment and discuss on the forum. Like you don't have to wait until a meeting to have those kinds of discussions. And yeah, cuz I know we are Wait for those. But for folks that can't make these meetings and still want to participate, feel free to use. Use the forum that way. And then last thing is just firing. If we want to recruit, we can just leave that off for now since it's already running late. But if you have a place that you want to recruit or fire, talk to Riley. Okay. Last five minutes, we can adjourn because I think everyone's really tired. So we don't have a side quest for Palestine right now. If anyone has any quick ideas that they want to throw up, say them now. Or forum. Forum. Okay. On the forum. Yep. Post it on the forum. Otherwise, yeah, we can kind of have a group come up with something and then post it on the site. Oh,
we didn't do the working group, right.
We said Monday. 20.8. Okay. All right. Cool. Okay, and, again, just as a quick note, before we end side quests are like are non focused campaign activities. They're like limited in scope, but it's what we use to do other actions that are not focused campaign activities. Okay. Can I move to adjourn the meeting? Can I get a second? Second? Second. Seconded by everyone. Okay, everyone favor
by
nicely you stand on the judge. Thank you for joining.
Joining, stick around. Alright, bye. Bye, everyone. Good night.
