for Yeah, thank you, Colleen for hosting. Thank you for being here. And like, you know, Echo much of what Mike just said, if not all I think he laid that out really well. And so, um, as Colleen says, So I'm the Education Policy Director of the Goldwater Institute here in Arizona, where we have the honor of saying, you know, we were the state that actually pioneer the first ESA program back in 2011. And so at that point, there was no such thing as an ESA, we call it an empowerment scholarship account here. Obviously, it's you know, different things in different states. But the end of the day, the first ESA program, was essentially a policy idea was an experiment back in 2011. To say, hey, we want to make sure every family has access to an education, they're not constrained to go through the public school system, etc. Or left as so many families have been to say, well, they're going to have to make those sacrifices entirely on their own right. Families who are paying property taxes or their best thing into the system is going to every other family, and yet then they're told well, great, now you get to also pay again for your own your own kids, right. And so just as a simple issue of, of equality and fairness for those families, that says, look, there's no reason we should be essentially making you a second class citizen and penalizing you for saying what the offerings of the public school don't meet the needs of my family, whether it's academically, whether it's culturally religiously, whatever it may be, to say that there is no reason they should be essentially penalized for this. So the Arizona program, which again started back in 2011, initially was just for students with special education that's expanded over the years and obviously, last year opened up to every student but as Colleen mentioned, the second year was the program first started that 2011 2012 school year had 100 kids in it right again, very, very small. This was a kind of a national pilot program. And ever since then, the legislature has been refining and making some changes to it. And in the second year of the program, they went in and exactly to Mike's point said all right, we've now created this program for these kids to recognize and make sure this is something that does not cause that sort of, you know, regulatory creep, etc. As Mike alluded to, we're going to create two tracks. So just as he said Arizona has essentially mandatory compulsory attendance laws. It says every student in the state has to be provided instruction, you know, but we are explicitly going to make a carve out that says for families who want to do homeschool they felt they signed an affidavit essentially written sworn statement saying, I've got my kids taken care of, they're learning what they need to know. You know, leave me alone, essentially, when it comes to you know, kind of government intrusion on here. And that's obviously worked for those families for a long time. With the ESA program. It said okay, now we have an option where we want to not only taxpayer money is going into public schools over here. Families are going to private schools over here. We want to make sure that regardless of the form, whether it's at home education or at a private school, or tutoring, whatever it is, we're going to give that option to all of them. But we are not going to undercut we're not going to undermine or we're not going to muddle this issue of the rights that have been secured for homeschool families. And so it said, you have an option to go to the traditional public school system or you can do signing this affidavit for homeschoolers or as a separate legal category. Now you can sign a contract to join this ESA program where you will be given this funding essentially, your tax dollars coming back to you that you then get to deploy for your your family and for your kids now. The Arizona statute is very clear, right? It says the government the state does not have the authority to alter the curriculum or creed or regulates private or homeschool education is very crystal clear. Right? Cuz this is one of the concerns that comes up a lot. Does this mean that they get to dictate the curriculum or that they can say you're not allowed to use a religiously affiliated textbook? You know, none of that is there. And it's very clear that says this, this is not a stagers does not have the authority to do that. And so there are entities you know, we had Goldwater our policy and also litigation, you know, outfit and so there there is very strong wall there that says this is a program that is for the students and it does not give a green light to the state to come in and start doing that. So, I'm happy to kind of talk a little bit more as we go on this but yeah, I would just you know, echo some of the comments that say this is something that over the now 12 year history of Arizona, we have seen the ESA program be something that's used by families at home education at private school education, and it's something that, you know, to Mike's point about the confusion of, well, our taxpayer dollars allotted to us for this. The way the program works is it says you know, if you get on to it, you're essentially given this account, you know, for a typical student without special needs or not in kindergarten about $7,000 you use those funds for specific things. If you want to spend anything on your student outside of that you still can't right so there's it's not like saying once you sign up for the ESA program, you know, now the government gets to decide everything you spend money on the purchases made with those funds have, you know categories that they can be spent on tutoring curriculum, books, etc. But you're still obviously you don't you don't give up your right to spend out of pocket on anything else that you want, just as a student who chooses not to participate. And then one last thing you know, I think one of the benefits for families as opposed to what you see with federal programs where you know, the we see college right federal handouts and it increases the cost of college with the ESA program. It gives families the funds and says you know what, if you don't use it all, you're not maybe spending all at a private school or you're holding on to it or you're educating your kids. But you're actually incentivized to economize you're incentivized to use the four sources as you need because they roll over a year to year so you don't have it's not just a use it or lose it. Here's $7,000 And it's April now go you know, spend a bunch of money to because might as well know that money is going to carry on to the next year. And families who are doing home education can take that and if they still have funds at the end they can put that toward college so student who's you know, considering a Hillsdale you know, at that point, right. It's again, it's a family who has a dutifully pay their taxes, they have asked nothing of folks in return. They're now being able to be brought into this fold get the funding and do this and so whether family to say you know, no, thank you. I'm happy to stay on just the homeschool definition or yes, I'm interested in doing the ESA is my said I don't see it as a compromise. I do see it as a win win for families who are not wanting to get involved with the traditional public school system.