so I really view micro dosing as a bridge to accessibility, that taking a very low dose of a psychedelic two or three times a week for a period of one month to two months. It's something that a lot of folks can can get behind. In fact, I'll tell a brief story. You know, I grew up in a pretty religious and traditional family unit in Michigan, in the Midwest. And when I started to become interested in psychedelics, my dad who, like you, barely ever has never been drunk has never smoked weed, you know, just sort of like, does everything to the tee at church every Sunday works for a Christian college university. He read Michael Pollan's book that came out in 2018, how to change your mind. And he became interested in micro dosing and started micro dosing. And then about a year after that, I actually guided him through a high dose psilocybin experience. And for me, that speaks to the power of micro dosing that for anyone who's listening to this, who's like, I'm curious in psychedelics, but I might be a little too intimidated to jump in the deep end, right away, and go straight for, you know, the Big Shot, some people are like, I'd like to sort of ease my way in and take these micro doses, lower doses 123 times a week, and see how it makes me feel. And so that I think is important. And a lot of the benefits of micro dosing are similar to high doses, and that people notice they're less depressed, people have more energy, they have a better mood. Micro dosing, when done consistently helps to facilitate greater neuroplasticity in the brain, which is partly what we talked about in the last episode together. And the core difference is that micro dosing is done over a period of 30 to 60 to 90 days, it's a protocol, it's something you do over an extended period of time, a high dose therapeutic use is as you experience, it's a weekend, or it's a week long retreat, or it's a you know, one high dose experience. And you might only do that every six months to a year to maybe even two years, depending on who you are. Or you might only do it once or twice in your life and be and like feel like that's totally and completely enough, which is also great. You know, and so the the metaphor that I often use to describe this relationship, just to help it land a little bit better. It's like going to the dentist, you know, every six months, we go to the dentist, we get a deep hygenic clean, things feel amazing. And as we all know, every day we show up, we brush our teeth, hopefully twice a day we floss, you know, we use mouthwash, to keep the to keep the mouth clean. But things just naturally build up over time. And there seems to be a similar relationship between high doses of psychedelics, it's almost instead of a high, an oral hygiene cleanse, it's more of a deep spiritual and holistic cleanse. Mind Body Spirit is what I would consider it to be. And and then there's micro dosing or there's meditation or there's breathwork, or there's yoga or there's nature walks, or there's whatever the modality is that helps you to stay centered and alive. And vital. Those are the daily practices that we we weave in just like we brush our teeth every day. And I think that relationship that approach is helpful, especially for people who are new to this. Or, you know, a lot of people get into this and they do it too often. Right that, you know, they they fall in love with it a little too much. And so they're drinking Ayahuasca every week or doing mushrooms every two weeks. And that can sometimes just be a passing phase, right? Like there are some folks who do that in a year because they've been struggling or there's been a lot of challenges. But when it becomes too often, it also has some some downsides. You know. So I think these are to be used cautiously, they're there to be used with reverence, ideally, with some form of professional support. So that's a lot of what I focused on over the last three years has been training coaches, practitioners, doctors, clinicians, and how to work with psychedelics, and that, that professional support makes a world of difference as you experience as I've also experienced, having someone who is there to support you, who helps you prepare beforehand, who maybe helps you integrate afterwards, with different tools and modalities, that that makes the difference between just another drug experience where a lot of the insights and downloads are fleeting, and they kind of come through and then they go out, compared to an actually transformative experience where there are tangible and productive things that change in your everyday life, which I think all of us who are listening to this podcast can can resonate with, we're entrepreneurs, we're building the real world, reality does matter. And so we are always looking out for a tool that think that will make us more effective and more helpful for society for ourselves, our family and society at large.