so. And so she wasn't saying that he's quote, unquote, morbidly obese as a neutral descriptor, right? She's saying, Oh, he's so fucking fat. He shouldn't be taking this because he's gonna keel over and die any second, right? And so, this is the first point that I want to talk about. Is it okay to fat shame, a really awful shitty person, aka Donald Trump. Well, the answer is, no. No, it's not okay to fat shame. Someone who is a really terrible, awful person. Literally, there are hundreds of reasons why Donald Trump is a complete and utter bellend. Like, he's, he's racist, he's sexist. He's a rapist. He's, he's, I'm just so mad. I think about all the ways that he is a bad human being. Now, is his weight one of those features that make him a bad human being? Absolutely not. No. It is a characteristic about him as a person, which is just like any other fat person. None of our business, not a personal fourth floor or failure, and not something that should be shamed. Do you remember when I think it was about three or four years ago? When the he was in the running to be president and there was loads of these installations of these art pieces? Which was Donald Trump naked? Or what people thought he was named? Where he looked like naked? And everyone was like, Yeah, this is so fucking funny. Oh my God. Look, he's so fat and look how small his penis is. That's transphobic by the way, laughing at the size of someone's penis. And obviously, it's fat phobic to say Oh, look how disgusting his body is because it's fat. Like, really? We have to go after his wait. Could we not go after the trillion other reasons why he is a horrific candidate to be President of the United States. Yeah, there's, there's loads of other things, right. So what happens when someone like Nancy Pelosi, someone who is meant to be a liberal says something like this? Well, us as a society learns something. So what do we learn about shaming Trump about his weight? Well, a lot of people will learn that it is absolutely a okay to shame Trump and therefore, shame anyone about their weight. And it's not. Some people might think, Well, Nancy Pelosi, she wasn't being that mean, I mean, she said she used a scientific term, which is, quote, morbid, quote, unquote, obesity, quote, unquote. And that is not a scientific term. So morbid obesity, that term, the morbid part is 100%. Something that is not and should not be used in science. Is it's, it's, it's literally not used, right? It's something that I can't remember how many years ago, like 40 years ago, someone said, Well, if someone's really fat, then they should be called morbid, because they're about to die. But it's not actually a scientific term people use and obesity. Yes, that is a term that is used in science. But the word obese is you is modeled on the BMI scale, which in previous episodes, I've explained why the BMI scale is super fucked up. The word meet obese means to have eaten until gotten fat. And so it's perpetuating stigmatizing language. The those words, the Oh words should not be in our language. There, it's a slur. And so she is saying she is being fat phobic, and using slurs to describe him.