She says Our practice of Zen purifies and warms the mind, so that the precepts are not really necessary. However, we have to have certain rules of behavior. Of course, we get up in the morning we wash, we dress mindfully, we straighten our cushions, we pay attention to our posture and our breath. Zen practice itself is a precept, one of them. And at the same time, all of them deonna Is prajna. Everything is contained in what we are doing. This is our Zen, and this is our everyday life every minute. So the power of this practice we are engaged in helps us to keep the precepts without self consciously trying to follow a set of rules. If we try to do it, if we think about it, if we read the list of precepts every morning and say, Now I must do this, and I mustn't do that. It doesn't work I still would recommend one take a look at the precepts. You may notice an area where you need improvement. But I take her point, which are our enlightened behavior comes spontaneously, not rigidly. She says, if it comes from the hara, from the intuitive wisdom mind, then it can be done. We can control ourselves very well. When we are without any idea of controlling at all. There is nothing to do there is nothing to control, nothing to follow. Without trying to do something we simply practice in the same way as when we are hungry, we eat. When we are tired, we rest. The precepts are not some rigid formulation outside ourselves. There are a few Buddhist sects in which very strict precepts are observed. Some Buddhist monks could not come here, because I am a woman. They could not come near a woman, let alone shake hands with her. I respect them and they should not violate their commandments. They find some deep meaning in them, that's fine. But in our practice, our one and only commandment is the intuitive response to our lives. And if we pay absolute attention to this is really difficult to violate.