And I'm going to continue from where we left off yesterday with a question this is question and answer here. You have said that samatha and Vipassana or concentration and insight are the same. Could you explain this further. And John Shaw says, it is quite simple concentration Samata and wisdom, the pasta we could say Samadhi and prajna. Using Zen terms, Buddhist other Mahayana Buddhist terms concentration and wisdom work together. First, the mind becomes still by holding on to a meditation object. disquiet only while you're sitting with your eyes closed, of course, this is how they sit, closing the eyes. Of course, we do it with the eyes open. Nobody's looking though, looking at any objects or distracting themselves. That whole business about closing the eyes. There are arguments both ways. It is true that there are less distractions if your eyes are closed, but you're also more drowsy. And in and it's also kind of we could say training wheels, it's you have to live your life with your eyes open. So if you learn to focus the mind with them open, then you can take it more readily into your life. Between the Soto and Rinzai forms of sitting, there is the difference that in Soto generally we face the wall, which is less distracting. And in Rinzai they face out they face each other as we do at certain times, and so shame some of our some of our sittings. And again, it's easier facing the wall at least at first. But if you learn to have the eyes open without picking and choosing without looking around without becoming distracted, then that benefits you later on. So there are good reasons for both. It's all just different, different ways.