So Mel was a interesting teacher would probably be canceled if he was still around today. But, you know, he was, he was great. He was what I needed at the time. I was, you know, I was I was a kid who loved radio, with really low self esteem and Mel kind of shut that out of me. So, yeah, so after Drayton, you know, it's everyone's dream to work in their hometown, I think so I went to work at CJ WW and hot 93. in Saskatoon I was doing a little bit of everything I was doing some writing and then I became a full time swing jock. And that's right around the time 1996 Now where Scott studios came in and automation and the cut the evening guys, and so I was I was looking for a job again. And that was the last time I was unemployed actually was 1996. And, you know, I did bar gigs, just kind of sat on my ass, you know, hoping for another job and in a market like Saskatoon or bigger and just wasn't getting any bites, you know? So, after my, you know, after my parents, you know, threatened to kick me out because I was staying at their place, of course. I said, Screw it, I'm gonna go back down to the bottom and start again. And I had some some friends up in Peace River, Alberta, working at CK yml and at the time, they were just launching a brand new station kicks 106. So I applied for that. Got it. And I was doing afternoon drive there. And that was the best thing that could have ever happened for my career because I never had that real small town experience where I did, every everything. I did imaging, I scheduled music, and was on every single shift. It was it was a great experience. And that's where my career really kind of started again. So I did that for a couple couple years. And after that I wanted to hit back to Saskatoon again. On the mighty CNIT five, you know, that was a station I grew up listening to. And so I got an offer to go to C 95 to do evenings. I show up at Rothko on Eighth streets and I'm greeted by Jamie Wall the time who says hey, what? So we got to, we got to change here. You're not going to be evenings on C 95. You're going to be offering a show on Newstalk. Okay, so I quit my job and Peace River after two and a half years to being off on the news talk station. But you know what I was I was back home. And I was going to prove to them that, that I that I could do more than that. And at the time, there was Dr. Opening on CK LM FM at the time, which is now rock 102. So I did that for a little bit. But that was just temporary. And they had a bunch of plants at that time for rebranding a bunch of stuff. And I wasn't part of that. So after catching wind, I went to Harvard broadcasting and Regina, kiss 92, where I was mad dog Meyers. And that name still follows me around today. It wasn't. It wasn't my choice. I was I was given that name. And I didn't want to take it because Toronto obviously had Mad Dog Michaels. And I didn't want to be seen as a copycat, but I didn't really have much of a choice. So I did drive there. Then I went over to mornings. And it was, it was that stint and mornings. That was another eye opener in my career. I really liked the money. It was the best money I've ever made to that point. But I hated the job. You know, mornings wasn't really for me. I was paired with, with a co host who I didn't really get along with. We didn't really see eye to eye on a lot of stuff. But I liked the money. So I'm like, Okay, well, I'm really passionate about programming in the music side of things. So yeah, maybe maybe this is my new path and Peace River broadcasting, they were hiring a program director at that time where I had worked for two and a half years. So I went back there to program and that was another two and a half year stint. Peace River is one of my probably one of my favorite places in Western Canada to the state. And then from there, you know, it was it was time to move on to a bigger market perhaps. And on milkman, I saw an ad for a program director at the Beat 94.5 of Vancouver, which was fairly new at that time, they were going through a lot of changes. I knew that I'm just this, you know, this kid and Peace River with his first PD gig. You know, there's no way that I'm going to get this job, but I'm going to send a resume anyway. Because I love the format's, hey, Vancouver, why not? And then I got a phone call, you know, about a week later from Jennifer Smith. And she said, we might have a gig for you. It's not it's not the PD gag. We gave that to Scott Turner. But we want you to come be our music director APD. And so I'm like, Yeah, I mean, that sounds great. Yeah, still just an amazing opportunity from somebody from Peace River to go to Vancouver. So, yeah, I mean, it was, it was it was a real great time being a, you know, a full time MD. Scott was great to work with. And then about a year later, Scott went back to Ontario. And, you know, just went into the the GMs office at the time, and I said, I want to be the PD, you know, he said, Okay, all right, well, we're gonna we're gonna advertise for the job. You know, but here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna we're gonna let you go through the fall book, we're gonna change formats, we're gonna go from urban to CHR. Because said 95 had gone hot AC at that time. And he said, at the one on one, the ratings come out, if the ratings are up, they got the gig. So we went from, I think it was, like, maybe a 3.5 with a team 34 to like a five share was something like that. So they're like, good job, you get the job now. So, so So I did that for four years.