is Christianity is IT pro or anti abortion, you say, well, we're anti abortion, because it's, it's we think it's murder. But we also care about the mother. And so really, we're gonna wait, that's not an opposition at all, though, right? So to frame it as we're neither pro or anti abortion is a bad way to frame it. We are anti abortion, we should just own that. So I think I'm not saying Keller does that. But I think the tendency can be for people looking for a third way to always gravitate to it, I find two poles that we can then say we're neither of those, or we're both of those in the most extreme. I'd say no, sometimes we're just one of those things that you know, are there two genders or 1000 genders? Are there 499 genders? And the answer is they're two genders. Right? So I that that instinct that third way, instinct can often lead to just bad thinking about, about issues. And then the other thing it can affect people as pastorally an individual person will rarely face both extremes equally as a temptation. So a man who is contemplating an affair with another woman does not need to be told it a Christian is it's it's not anti adultery, or pro Delta. It's kind of a third way. He he needs to be told, you cannot do this. It is a wicked sin. That's no no, no nuance. No, no, no, no, no subtleties, no talking about how Christianity is not moralism. It's not it's not legalism, it's antinomian you just need to be told that's a sin. Now I'm not accusing Keller of of in a pastoral situation of doing that. But when when you talk constantly in this third way frame, that it can lead us individually to think about all every temptation every situation, every issue in a third way frame, which is often a very dangerous way to approach situations in ideas. So I think that's my criticism of it. And I think you'd actually asked earlier about in the your email about the Aaron Rennes negative world. And we're Christianity is now in a negative world culture were used to be a positive world where people were it was a good thing to be Christian. And then I think in the 50s, it kind of transitioned or 70s it we became a neutral world where it's neither positive nor negative socially to be a Christian, but around 2012 With Obergefell We moved into a negative world where now being a Christian publicly, is socially bad. It's a bad thing. And I think this plays into a lot of the disconnect between the way that Keller who's lived for most of his life in in neutral world has framed his ministry because his approach, generally speaking, is that we should play up the ways that Christianity fulfills your deepest longings as a non Christian. So you know you long for justice, well, Christianity fulfills that desire, you, you longing for freedom, Christianity fulfills that desire for freedom. Now, again, I agree with that we should present the Christianity does fulfill these deep, deep longings. But the other side of that especially that becomes irrelevant in a negative world is that when people are actually the idea was if we can show people that their deepest longings are fulfilled in Christ, they'll become Christians, right will preach the gospel to them, they become Christians. But that doesn't work when their deepest longings that they are aware of are actually antithetical to the gospel. So in your deepest longing, if, for example, if a man's deepest longing is to have anonymous sex with 1000s of women, that's his deepest longing, then you can't really say, well, we can fulfill that longing in Christ. No, you can't, though. You might say, well, you're really searching for meaning, and you know it and that lungs, but it's not always helpful to say, oh, to basically downplay the offensive parts of the gospel or Christianity and play up the positive elements and people's felt needs, because sometimes their felt needs are for the things that are actually bad for them. And a good test case would be you know, for example, be a sort of Third Way posture and neutral word posture be you know, don't put say sexuality front and center, or abortion in front and center right in people's faces. Right, right. Because start with things like your you need salvation Jesus, Ito is a savior for bad people, you can rescue put a Christianity cares about justice, Christianity cares about this world and human flourishing, don't lead with abortion or sexuality, which are the main stumbling blocks to people who are progressive coming into the church. Now, on the one hand, I think, okay, that's true, the gospel should be central. But if you look at how the gospel presented in, say, x, the off the apostles often lead with the offensive. You crucified Jesus. Now he's here offering you salvation, or Herod, you know, you are sleeping with your brother's wife, that's a sin, or, you know, so things like that they they actually front load the discussion with people sin, and then offer them salvation from their sin. Now, I'm not gonna I'm not actually saying that that's the right way or wrong way to do evangelism. I'm just pointing out that we can't fit everything into this one approach. And there are there actually, obviously, their person with a sandwich board walking around that says, you're all gonna go to hell. That's, you know, I'm not saying they're doing the wrong by the way, I'm just saying that that approach may not win people as effectively as other approaches, some, some people are, some people are actually hurting from their sin. They're miserable. They need to hear the gospel, that you can be forgiven from this, they already hate themselves. So they need to be told the good news, but other people who are hardening their sin need to be told the bad news, you know, you can be broken with by God's law, so that you can be bound up by the gospel. My point is that one size does not fit all. And I think you can tend to just say, this is the way to share the gospel, this is the way to preach the gospel. And third way approach, I think it's become less and less useful, as our culture is more and more opposed not to their their false ideas about Christianity. Yes, that's not true. They're opposed to what Christianity actually teaches. So saying, hey, hey, guys, we're not like that. That's not gonna work. Because we are like that, you know, they're they're right to