Bloomfield Board of Health meeting, January 21, 2020

6:22PM Jan 22, 2021

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Secretary, the President, was the president. All right.

All right. Thank you. It's January 21 2021. Time is 6:33pm Eastern Time, due to multiple executive orders acclaimed by Governor Murphy in an effort to prevent further spread of covid 19 to January playing one on one with them for a town where because the general public there these work helped me to be streaming live on channel 35. Channel 30, YouTube or Facebook Live it linked to the live stream will be posted on the township website. Public always has an opportunity to make public comments that health department during public meetings However, with this new format, if you have a comment or a question, please submit it in writing to health department and the others there. If there are any public comments and and the ordinances on second reading, please submit those as well. The board will read the record your question or medicine during the public comment portion of the meeting and submitting your comment or question. Within the second line of email. Please write in comment concerning the question EMH meeting and within the body of the email prior to your comment. Let's hear your question. Please indicate your name and address the acceptable 4:30pm Thursday again may 21 2021. This organizational meeting of the Board of Health was called to order public notice of this meeting in compliance with the open public meetings act as given by how that was appearing that fulfilled life and posted on the bulletin board and even an official building. Roll vote please.

Elkins president, Dr. Neto, Antonio Rodriguez, President Denise obey their previous president, council liaison Davis, absent also present. Mike Fitzpatrick help officer.

Thank you. Okay, first up is the election Acting Secretary to the board so we can get rid of the mechanism in the ordination meeting. I will make a motion to nominate Karen to that position. Do I have a second please? Was that Tony? Yes. Okay. Thank you, Tony. All those any other nominations for Secretary? No, no, no. So election. Do I have a motion to the election? Thank you, Danny. Second, please. Have you please raise your hand? Thank you. Okay, so roll call vote. All those in favor of carrying the Acting Secretary. I like this. Okay. Nice. I saw you raise hands with a big brain. I just like you as the anonymous I mean nays not okay, not oppose. So congratulations Perry, the Acting Secretary. Please proceed.

Okay, I'd like to hear nominations for the board president. Have any nominations?

nominate Joe Albin.

I have a motion to nominate Joe Elkins the second. The second by Dr. Mehta. Are there any other nominations for board president? No other nominations noted. All in favor? Aye.

Aye.

All in favor. Okay, Joe. Joe, you can take it from here.

All right. Thank you very much here. All right. Next up for vice president. Nominations anyone?

nominee Dr. Mehta.

I second that nomination. Any other nominations for vice president? All right. Voting for liking Dr. Mehta as our Vice President. I

can go to that. Misha? Any opposed? None. Okay, unanimous. gratulations. All right. Finally, a permanent secretary for the board. I nominate parent and I have a second place.

Second.

Thank you, Tony. Any other nominations for Secretary to the board? Because no. All those favor of electing candidates for Secretary. I like everybody's unanimous none opposed. gratulations Karen. Okay. Next, resolution, reaffirming or putting any amendments into the bylaws I have motion to discuss please. Thank you, Tony. Second, please. Okay. Is that you doc? Okay. Yeah, please raise your hand if the size of a little delay in the sound. Okay, so what's the resolution? Oh 521. Do we have that parents can actually see that in the list here.

Yeah, ring reformation of the bylaws.

Hold on, I might have missed it. There it is. I love resolution by the way. Okay, resolution, whereas the board recognizes the importance of being governed by a set of bylaws and whereas the board wishes to reaffirm its current bylaws for the year and therefore be resolved by the board and shape. the bylaws attached here to reaffirm shall serve as the officially recognized by laws by the board. So before we vote on this break down the discussion, brutal. Is there anyone who would like to make any changes or amendments or comments regarding the bylaws? For capricans, okay, I'll take that as a no. All right, so roll call vote, please care.

Bill Elkins,

yes.

Antonio Rodriguez. Yes. Dr. Neto? Yes. Denise sorbet. Yes. sarracenia sarafine. Yes.

Okay. Thank you one day. Next up is resolution. Sorry. forgive that. My apologies. Standing Committee appointments for the finance Advisory Committee, which is our only committee. I point to people I'm going to appoint myself and anyone else who would like to volunteer we haven't had news like maybe a year but we still want to build a home run forward. All right, Doc, congratulations, you win. Okay. Okay, next up resolution Oh 620 21 the official newspaper of record. A whereas Board of Health in the township must publish official notices and local newspapers to comply with the open public meetings act. Now therefore be resolved with the board does hereby designate the independent press the official newspaper of the board, be it further resolved that the board does hereby designate to start with As the official alternate newspaper of the board, motion for discussion, please make a second place and back. Okay, questions or comments with regard to this resolution? All right, magnates roll call please.

Go Elkins.

Yes.

Antonio Rodriguez. Yes. Dr. Mehta. Yes. Denise sorbet. Yes. And sterben Eva? Yes.

Excellent. Thank you. All right. That actually concludes the business for the reorganization meeting. Do I have a motion to adjourn please?

Thank you, Tony. Second, please. Thank you, Sara. And all those in favor, Aye. Opposed none. It is 642 and the reorg meeting is adjourned.

And now on to the old regular meeting. So it is still January 21 2021. And time is 642. Eastern Time. Again due to multiple executive orders declared by Governor Murphy in an effort to prevent further spread of COVID-19 the January 21 2021. School Board held will be close to the general public there is the Board of Health he will be streaming live on channel 35 channel 30 on Verizon YouTube or Facebook Live link to the live stream will be posted on the township website while it goes has an opportunity to become a comment to the health department during public meetings. However, this new format if you have a comment or somebody writes a compartment and help them deal Ito up nj.com in any public comments on any ordinances and a second reading please submit those as well as the board will read on the record regarding your comments and integrating public comment portion beginning and submitting your comment concerning occasion when the subject line of email please write comments or questions worried about getting within the body of the email prior to your comments or questions please enter your name and address additional links I can coordinate the answers 2021 January 2121 regular meeting in the forums the course is called to order public notices meeting compliance to give feedback is given by help with no spirited independent presentation on public bulletin boards this little building will discourage discussion by board members will precede each item on the agenda any board member wishing to comment for the record may do so after the item has been properly moved and seconded. No new business can be brought forward by board members after 10:30pm this meeting legitimate no later than 11:30pm. This meeting may include any other business that may be brought to the attention of the Board of Health. One will actually be taken by the board this meeting of the comments on matters of public health or any item on the agenda shall be called by the president prior to public comment period shall be limited to one hour. Individual comment only limited to five minutes per person. System start progressing toward more detailed commenters to do some writing when we can advance to about the boring subject. Well but shall not be recognized another time. So those call for urine will always

kill Elkins phrase. Antonia Rodriguez as the meta as a nice survey urbania present. Running Council is on Juanita Davis. accent. Also present Mike Fitzpatrick health health officer.

Thank you. All right. First up is the approval the minutes or price prior prior previous month, whatever those of the previous meeting was December 10 2020. You'll have a motion to discuss this

option.

Thank you don't second, please. Thank you back. Okay, any questions or comments regarding those minutes? All right. All those in favor approving the minutes of December 10 2020. meeting? I would say verbally as well as raising your hand. Hi, I Any opposed? None. Okay, sorry. There's a recording and you make sure it's covered both It's okay. public comments. Aaron, did you receive anything?

Yeah, we did not.

All right. Thank you. All right. Next up is licenses pending approval for December 2020. motion, please. oshin. Thank you, Tony. Second, please. Okay. Thank you back. Questions or comments regarding licenses pending approval for December? No. All those in favor, aye. Aye. Opposed, not. Next, December 2020. Communications motions, please. Thank you, Tony. Second, please. Like the back. Questions or comments regarding December communications? Yeah. All right. All those in favor of accepting, aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. December 2020. Financial Report motion please. No, listen. Thank you, Johnny. Second, please. Okay. Thank you, Doc. Any questions or comments regarding the December 2020? announcer report? Yeah. All right. All those in favor say? Aye. Suppose none. Next up is the Health Officers December 2020. Report. motion, please. Motion. Thank you, Tony. Second, please. Thank you, Dr. Karen, you're up? I'm sorry. One person? I think I might. Yes.

It was reversed. But that's,

that's new, you're tricking everybody. Good evening, everyone. So my report has to do with all the work that essentially the staff has done throughout the month, as it relates predominantly to COVID. And contact tracing has been going on for seven days a week, predominantly five days a week, in the in the entire day, but when it comes to the weekend is when we receive calls for school system issues and or one off situations that may occur that we try to resolve. So come Monday, when normal business would be able to operate, we've kind of answered some of those calls. So we do a lot of triage, and if you will, with contact tracing on the weekends. And so we that's how we take care of making sure there's continuity seven days a week, in addition to that we have worked with additional testing is happening every Wednesday with a vendor that we have, and that has been working pretty successfully. Several 100 people have been tested every Wednesday for the last I believe, four weeks. So this past Wednesday would have been the fourth time that we have done that. And that's been moving along. Effectively, we made a few little tweaks to improve things. But by and large, it has gone very, very well since its inception. vaccinations in regard to COVID is something that is a big broad discussion from the federal government down to the state government and to the county government. And ultimately, to us, there's a not enough vaccine at the moment to really pump it out in any meaningful, large point of distribution. There's plenty of people available to provide the vaccine, but there's just a limitation on the vaccine. And what I guess there's hope for is that Johnson and Johnson and AstraZeneca, sooner or later will get its FDA emergency approval. I think Johnson Johnson is going to receive it next week, that might help to put several 10s of 1000s of doses in the pipeline for New Jersey within the next few to several weeks. And I think at that point, there'll be much more distribution and availability. Right now, the bottleneck, unfortunately, is really the amount of vaccine that is available to to the state at any given time. Think the governor said on Monday that there was 100,000 100,000 doses a week available, but we need to do 4.7 million individuals in the current approved categories. So if we do the math, that's like almost 40 weeks. So it would take quite quite a long time to do that. So that's why these other companies will be coming on and producing some additional vaccine. A large part of the answers that we have to give to individuals that call is why can't I get a shot? Why can't I get the vaccine because I'm in the category. And we have to explain to them about the limitations on the vaccine. So if you've heard from individuals that they call, whether it's a county side or register with the state, they're not always open and available for making appointments, because they can only make appointments with a vaccine that they have either on hand or that they have been promised and they know they will receive. And a little bit of additional complication is that everyone that's received the first injection is now basically needing to receive the second injection. So if you have, you know, 500 available or 1000 available, you only have 50% that you can actually give the second dose to those that have had it and the initial dose to anybody knew that you're going to give it to him. So that's another limitation or bottleneck that we're finding. We're still going about our normal business as far as complaints food inspections. While some of the staff is most certainly spending its time on COVID related issues is not to the exclusion of COVID. So we are providing those essential services and normal, normal public health services that we would, absent of COVID. The entire staff is working diligently. They're doing a fabulous job. And they're really handling the public very well, with some very stressed residents calling but we're trying to handle them in a in a way that they feel more comfortable when they get off the phone than they did before they get on the phone. That's essentially my report.

Thank you. Anyone have any questions? for Mike. Okay, thank you for those in favor of accepting the help officers. December 2020. Report, Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? None. Thank you. All right. Next up was the directors. December 2020. Reward motion, please. Thank you, Tony. Second, please. Okay. Thank you, Doc.

Hi, everybody. I'll keep it brief since we have a lot of things to get through tonight. And just to kind of add to what Mike said, Yes, the lens testing is continuing. The mayor is in support of us continuing to do the testing on Wednesday, and the group that we're working with will provide that testing visibility, we have the demand. Last is leaning slightly, not much. We've been testing over 100 people weekend last. past Wednesday, we had about 65 registered. So if that number continues to go down, we'll reevaluate it. But so far, there still seems to be a big demand for the testing. We also had the Martin Luther King, Day of Service, that coordinated activities with the Martin Luther King committee, and also the neighborhood neighbor network with human services, and they put some programs together, some of them will be ongoing, one of them, which is senior smiles program where volunteers are actually reaching out and contacting seniors who are isolated. And they receive training from our social workers on how to work with the seniors and some of the issues that they might be facing. So that was launched, or in collaboration with a committee. And that'll be ongoing. So volunteers are extremely excited, and the seniors are very happy to have that kind of connection. We also had an issue with our nursing office is located in the downstairs level of the municipal building. So there was a leak. So the staff had to be relocated to another office space. So that was another kind of scrambling of personnel and trying to get them up with workstations, and everything that's involved in moving a division. So we got a lot of cooperation and help from the township and also by T. And Mike was also on hand and providing some inspections made sure the area was safe and free of mold. So there was a very significant leak, and not clear where it was coming from. So they're temporary out of that space. And they are located Now on the other side of the building where the health educators work. Since we are practicing staggering staff that can work remote way into the office, we do have some flexibility with workspace that we wouldn't normally have at that space available. So that was positive there. But in order to you know, as we we really do need to get that resolved so that you back in your workspace, and hopefully we'll get back to normal sooner rather than later. The other details of the activities is all in your reports, health education activities, report along with human services and nursing and environmental and vital records. So the detail will those activities can be found in those reports.

Thank you. Thank you. Anyone have any questions? Or do

Karen, is there a criteria for people going to go get COVID tested? Oh, I asked this because I know that a lot of times, you know, someone comes in contact with someone was COVID yesterday. They want to immediately come and get tested the next day, but we know that that's too soon. So I was just wondering if there's that criteria. Once Call us to schedule an appointment or to come in what that what that looks like? Well, if somebody is coming in specifically to see if they had an exposure due to a con tact and we inform them, the wait period is but if they still want to come in, we will test them and then encourage them to come back. So we haven't turned anyone away because of any type of window when they're symptomatic. People can come and be tested as often as they want. And as long as the availability is there, we will test them.

Anyone have any other questions? All right. When all those in favor of accepting the directors December 2020. Report, Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? None. Thank you. Okay, council liaison support my presence for president support at unfinished business none new business there's quite a few Okay, starting with resolution Oh 7.11 improve governmental services. Whereas ndsa 26 poultry one requires every New Jersey municipality on board of health. And whereas that same allows a local Board of Health to adopt rules, regulations and ordinances for its governments etc. Whereas the board of township glucose determine order fulfill a state mandate. with purpose intention jersey state statutes on shared services whereas more is determined the following service will be provided by the township of bluegill and when that promotes economies of scale. Now therefore be resolved Board of Health is hereby approved retaining the services and township Oldfield for 2021 calendar year as follows for accounting services, all payroll services, human resources and benefits management excluding appalling employment in courts and JSA 26 compete at 19 termination discipline facilities management of the board's offices building and management information system. Motion to discuss please. Now. A 32nd. Please think that this is our usual annual resolution on the topic. Anyone have any questions or comments? All right. All those in favor? Aye. Hi. Sorry. Sorry, Karen. That should have been a roll call my dad.

Will Elkins?

Yes.

Antonio Rodriguez. Yes. Dr. Merrill. Nice day. Yes. Darwinian? Yes. Council liaison, Davis. Oh, sorry. She doesn't vote. That's it.

Okay, thank you. All right. Next up is Monte aeronautical contract for medical

procedure, medical director and standing orders.

Got it. Thank you. Also, this

one first one is for the pediatrician. I think the pediatrician we're going to differ because we currently have a vacancy there. So

correct, Mike?

Okay, so we want to see Oh, wait. 2021 we're going to hold up. Yeah. Okay.

So the next one will be the medical director and standing orders.

Yeah, this one I have open it up. I'm looking at the agenda that was actually

we do not have that on the list at the present time.

No, it's not okay.

Then they must have deleted incentive the updated one MPs

update. Okay. All right. So resolution authorizing the award of an unfair open contract for medical director and standing orders or more as needed for medical director to fill standing orders and going to award the contracts that non fair open and contract pursuant to the appropriate provisions. For a board as determined certified in writing the value service allowed exceed $17,500 or chairman's contract will begin January 120 21 and expire on December 31.1. And whereas, Bloomfield and medicine or cable will act as the medical director for the Health Division, whereas the drivers completed and submitted as part of the contract the business entity, so those are certification, etc. Whereas the fourth house director of certified funds or bill was never the cause now, therefore, be yourself the president members, the board authorized the president have been born into a contract provided described herein be it further resolved that the business disclosure entry entity certification and the termination value placed on file resolution and be it further resolved this resolution contract fills out the available for public inspection, etc. And almost as follows in a way 2021 motion to discuss this motion. Thank you. Second, please. Any questions or comments regarding this resolution? Yeah. All right. Roll Call, please. Can.

Elkins

Yes.

Antonio Rodriguez, yes. Dr. Mehta. did a survey.

Yes.

There will be a yes.

Thank you. All right. Next up is resolution Oh 920 21 laboratory testing. This is essentially inspections of the Garden State reformatories, corporate contract calendar year 2021. To see $3,229.87 most of the discuss please. Sorry, you have this is a roll call vote again. Okay. Motion please. Okay, second, please. Okay, sorry. Got rooms that was listed there, man. Right. Okay. Any questions or comments? Regarding this, Karen, just remind me again, this is for water testing.

Yes, this is the water testing that we do on a regular basis throughout the year.

Anyone have any questions or comments regarding us? No. All right, roll call, please.

Bill Elkins.

Yes.

Antonio Rodriguez. Yes. Dr. Neto Denise survey. Yes. darwinia. Yes.

Thank you. All right, next is resolution in 10 and 2021. a resolution designating internet website for official location percentage in New Jersey local unit pay to play law for is more subject to the provisions of njsa etc, aka the New Jersey local unit play to play law, where as part of the paradigm for process and pain along the related contract could be awarded on the federal prosecution of advertisements or will be advertised in newspapers or on the internet board maintains a website at the address shown as board desires and designate board and health websites the official notification source for contracts to be awarded as our internal process, therefore be resolved as follows the board hereby designates the board health internet website as the frequent notification source for contracts or is not filled in realizing it's an official legal newspaper notifications when so desire. Motion to discuss with us in a second please. Thank you back. Any questions or comments with regard to this resolution? All right, roll call please.

Phil Elkins.

Yes.

Antonio Rodriguez.

Yes.

Dr. Madden for a survey. That is a very urban veneer. Yeah.

All right, next up is resolution 11 2021. By the way, thank you for the new numbering and putting those in the name is very helpful, especially in this format. All right resolution 11 2021 resolution authorizing the award of a non zero the contract for a nurse practitioner for psychiatric services, or as more as a need for nurse practitioners or psychiatric services and going to war the contract with a non parent of contract versus board has determined that the value of service have not exceed $17,500 or 1.1. Whereas the term is January one through December 31 121. And whereas himcolin APM is in the game that you will act as a nurse practitioner to administer psychiatric services for the board in accordance with the terms of this contract. Whereas condoled is complete and submitted a business entity disclosure certification certifies the handle does not make any reportable contributions, we political candidate etc. The contract will prohibited golden raisins are placed at affordable contributions during the term, whereas Miller understands that the board and township public entities as a result this agreement is subject to gambling the funds vital documents with 1.1 budget now therefore be resolved. The President members of the board authorized the board entry with the contract, Kindle strike you're in, etc, etc. motion for discussion free option. Thank you. Second, please. Back. Any questions or comments with regard to this resolution? All right. roll call please.

welkins

Yes.

Antonio Rodriguez. Yes. Dr. Mehta from a survey? Yes. darwinia Yes.

Thank you. Next up, resolution 12 2021, a resolution ratifying resignation, retirement separation or termination of employee, board and commission. Whereas the following employee has retired resigned or is no longer working for both the health and the admin. And the correctness of that law titles are really just trainee and this is effective or was effective December 30 2020. Whereas the forumotion employee and notify the director is their desire to design hire or separate from their positions. Now there will be resolved at the board hereby accepts the event notices and instructs the director to complete all necessary paperwork to take other actions necessary to properly effectuate said Notice of Motion to discuss this action. Thank you. Second, please. Okay. Karen, any notes or comments on this?

No, not misses any questions. We do have on the rest of the next resolution, the replacement position. So that's what that

is. Right. Anyone have any questions or comments?

No.

All right. Then roll call, please. Yes.

Antonio Rodriguez.

Yes. Dr. Meadow? Yes.

The nice survey. Yes.

Yes.

Thank you. All right. Next up is resolution 13. Dinesh from 2019 resolution ratifying climate change modifications hours worked for new hire board about boy whereas in order to meet the obligations required by the board to carry their responsibilities with housing contract committees, the following personnel changes. For example, I think that should be personnel are recommended for as board meeting places personnel and may be necessary in order to maintain efficiency and productivity and fix the duties based on these whereas the following plays that demonstrated the efficiency competency license type or skills required to perform duties. Daniel work has us title already just step two if I could December 21 2020, full time declined deployments. DVD interesting set of initials already adjusted to effective DVD. Karen, I'm not clear on this one. Why did I buy the DVD? Well, my gosh, I should have called Wait, hold on, hold on. Hold on. My apologies. Let me go back to that. Next up is mornings because we got to finish working through about Arlene Carmona graduate nurse. Step two, we can do 19 2021, though to exceed 20 hours a week part time temporary. And that sort of led to strengthen golden population grant as a heroin addiction health educator step one effective February 8 121 to 28 hours a week now there will be resolved before you accept the aforementioned brothers authorized director taking the action appropriate and etc. I think motion to discuss this. Thank you. Second, please. Okay, thank you that, okay, so it's already counted for others realize that we need to get it No, no problem, perfect. No

problem. You're at the last meeting, the board authorized the hire of nrhs. When we went back, they had already accepted a position. So that did not work out. We do have another candidate that we'd like to move forward with hiring attention potentially probably before the next board meeting. So just looking to authorize that hire so the TPA is days to be determined. And it basically authorizes us to move forward with hiring the another important time RHS candidate if it works out so that we don't have to wait until the next board meetings are behind the behind the misfire

carry the previous position was full time and this is full time so it'd be a full time position. But the one that we we put forward in December that was approved was full time this would be the same thing. Okay, so just a parallel change and we're in the final throes of the interviews and the final interview will not occur until the beginning of next week. And just a matter Due to timing issue,

right. Okay. Anyone else have any questions or comments with regard to this?

Yes. So let me understand that this, you, you want to just be able to, for the new hire go off of the same resolution that was already approved.

Yes, essentially, a side note, no additional change in anything as far as celebration or anything, it's just a parallel swap, I just don't have the person's name, because we have not made them the offer a and b, they have not had the ability to accept or reject and tell their existing employer, but I would say we're very close to a final decision. So it's just a change of one to another with similar experiences. In fact, they were in the same class. That's how we found this candidate from the last candidate.

And my only concern is, you know, there's a name on the resolution, however, you know, decision was declined. So has that a legal document? Well, what we would what I would do this, this authorizes us to hire her, but then the next meeting, I would come back, and we would add the name, and then it would be kind of more it was next week.

That way, okay, with

everyone, you know, it's labeled that way, I'm having an issue with it. You know, that, it this, this will be a two step process versus our usual one step process, because we usually have candidates name, and so we can just move forward with all the information. Since you know, we haven't firmed all of that up. But we're hoping to firm that up by next week. This allows us to have a resolution to show to finance that the board has authorized the hiring to fill the position. And then the next meeting will actually bring the resolution forward for the board with the person's name and any other information that is needed. So

it was exactly the same thing we did in the December 8. Yes. Anyone have any other questions or comments? Okay, roll call, please.

What's the board wants to be next week? Joe? Joe Elkins?

Yes.

Antonio Rodriguez. Yes. Dr. Mehta. Nice survey. Yes.

Yes.

Okay, thank you. All right. Do we actually have anything to discuss for a poster?

No. But I do anticipate the next meeting that we will be going into closed session very close to. We've been in a process of negotiating the contract for the employees. So I'm hoping that that's going to be in place where converting to the board by the next we will discuss that in closed effects. If that's the case, just kind of

give you the heads up. Okay, thank you. And there's something here that says closed session to December 5 2019. Is that just a typo? on the agenda? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So that's just an hour. Okay. So it really is nothing and no, no minutes? No.

Okay. Really? Thank you for that. Okay. Well, then, unless I'm mistaken. That's it for the session. Is there anything else that we need to go over?

All right, so our next meeting will be Thursday, February 18. Is there anyone who has an issue with making a date? Are you looking at anyone? I am? Yeah, I was.

I don't I don't have any calendar. Thank you.

All right. Okay, I think we're about ready to wrap up. So once again, Sarah, well, the board hope you find it a joyful experience for the rest of you in advance. I thank you for your upcoming your service, especially in these times is greatly appreciated. And there's nothing else then Do I have a motion to adjourn? motion? Thank you. Second, please. Okay. Thanks, Doc. Okay, all those in favor of a journey this meeting. I know, it is 7:16pm Eastern time. This meeting is adjourned. Thank you very much for your time. See you next month.