Yeah, absolutely. So we, our curriculum is basically, we start by having people take some time to just we call it the reframe, to take time to just dig into what am I really doing. And then we move into prototyping and community building. And then we end with storytelling. So the idea is, you get to reframe your idea, understand it, you get to get it out into the world and kind of both build your own belief in it and refine it, and then you start to share it with a broader world. But to ground it a bit more in that reframe piece, I think this is this is the piece that we're continuing to work on make making it better within our Well, I guess all of it, we're continuing to work on making it better. But it's the time that when we say that, like play in the sandbox, just see what's out there, understand, try to not bang your head against that wall, you can walk around, we give our fellows a number of different kinds of prompts to go out and talk to people understand what they need, we give, we encourage them to do an analogous immersion where they hopefully learn something totally different. And I want to give you one example actually have of what that looks like. So one of our fellows, Lynn came into the fellowship with very smart accountant actuary, who had been working in financial wellness, trying to support people with their financial planning, but doing it from a very sort of corporate perspective and felt like the incentives just weren't aligned. So her vision was how do you do it in a way that is more centered on the people. But she came in very much with a vision of like, okay, what are the tools they need? What are the resources, how do we help them plan, et cetera. And she started out with the interviewing process, and in the interviewing process, she just kept saying, like, wow, people are really uncomfortable talking about money, this is hard to even get to the place of understanding what they need. And then so she so that insight of like, money is hard to talk about, which we all know, but you know, it's not necessarily at the forefront, led her to think who else talks about hard things. And then and so then she went to a couple of Alcoholics Anonymous meetings to see what they did, how do they talk about hard things? And that was a huge shift for her essentially she said, Oh, if I if this is about financial wellness, this is about comfort with money and comfort talking about money. So based on her experience there she could created this very simple one hour introduction to the what she called the money health collective, which is kind of a, a, a financial wellness organization that just gets people comfortable talking. So they go through and they talk to somebody relatively anonymously, they'd go through some fun activities. And I've gotten to do it myself, I'm somebody who is not comfortable talking about money. And I definitely shared things with whoever the random person was on the My partner in a way that I do not. But what she's seen is that simple conversation, that one hour conversation, like she did some pre and post polling, and people said they were at least 25% more comfortable talking about money, and making money decisions based on just the simple shift. So that's just one example of how the kind of the reframe piece can be so so powerful,