Well, hey, so excited to be on the show. John Becky, who are some of my favorite people that I've met especially in in the the pandemic world for sure. I was born in New York City, actually, and then moved to upstate New York place called Newburgh, New York, eventually is where I really grew up third grade onward. And my father was work from home father, he's an author, science fiction, westerns, things like that. Oh, that's fascinating. Yeah, he's written 50 novels over 50 novels. He worked with Neil Gaiman and Stephen King and and Joyce Carol Oates. He edited Ray Bradbury. So I went to school in state school in New York called SUNY Plattsburgh, and was going to be a history major. And I always wanted to teach, I was always eventually saying, I want to be an educator, right? And after graduating, I said, Okay, I'm going to go into academia, because I want to be a professor. And what that means is that I need to rack up some stuff after my name that has letters after it. So I was like, who I have an opportunity to get to Master's degrees in two years. So I went into debt, and move to Ireland got a degree in culture and colonialism for the National University of Ireland in Galway, and then I moved back to New York City and got a degree in history of education from Teachers College, Columbia University. So I was kind of sick of being on the East Coast. And I said, Okay, I'm likely to get a PhD acceptance from a school in the Midwest. So I'm going to go live out there. So I said, Okay, I know people in Chicago, let's go there. So I ended up going to Chicago, getting coffee shop jobs while waiting to get accepted into PhD programs got rejected two rounds, and my dad's like, get a job. And it was 2008. And I got a grant writing job because I was like, I want to go help people. I guess I'm gonna give up on my academia dream because I was gonna be a labor historian. That's what I want to do is like, like, look at working class, working class movements and things like that. Not unions, but what like the average person is doing on the ground. I've worked for a few nonprofits and then kind of eventually learn my way around how to be a good fundraiser. Because when I got into fundraising, I was like you do events, right? Like that's what fundraising is right? Like, I learned my way through and a big break was working for a school that had a really solid structure in in how they did fundraising. It was a Catholic school in the Rogers Park neighborhood of Chicago. And I just learned databases, razor's edge, 100 hours of training on that platform, really good structure, you know, focus on good copy, focus on good engagement and appeals management. And then it was weird, though, coming from my background, getting a check for $10,000. The first week I was there, I didn't do anything. It was just like, here's $10,000, can you process this, and I'm like, this is 1/9 of my entire first jobs budget. And I didn't do any work to get this. And so understanding that there's economic disparities in nonprofits and the resources and a lot of it is when you invest in abundance, then that comes back to you. But a lot of the jobs that I had, there wasn't that mindset. And so when I had the opportunity, there was a place called z two systems offering this database called neon, which stands for nonprofit enterprise operations network, folks. By the way,