If people are interested in how to permit for the big boards 300 Okay, all right, this is just starting to kind of get a gauge on how to make some discussions work. As we go, how many people attended this session last year? Oh, okay. All right. So not a whole lot has changed, I am gonna be able to talk to a lot of you about some changes that we're doing this coming here. And also, you'll just get to enjoy your lunch, which is great. So welcome. Once again, to the cities round in this whole affair. Please do stop by for natural areas management after this. And we'll have a sort of ask the city question where you can bounce as many questions as you want to have a panel of people who do our best to respond. Okay. All right. So special events and permits, I thought I'd go over a little bit just permits by the numbers for the city. And I'm going to do it all but starting to talk actually about the city's budget. For the General Services Department, there was a lot of talk about how budget cuts budget cuts budget, that's all throughout, you know, the six years up until, you know, the great restructuring. And right now if I took all the General Services departments, and I cobbled together, things that were more parks and rec related budget would be about $40 million a year, right. And that covers all personnel, and that covers all of our operations cost, etc. If I was to think about the recreation, the one which I live in, we have a budget of about $17 million. However, once you take out a lot of our personnel costs, which is over half of our entire expenses, we have so many employees that are in our recreation centers day in and day out. And once you take out the contractual services that we pay for, for golf courses, and cemeteries and things of that nature, I'm left with an operational budget, that's around $1.7 million. So run 307 parks and 12 rec centers, right soon to be 16. So we have a very, very small budget, we have a very, very small staff. And permits is just one little sliver of that entire operation. We issued this past year 1000 permits across the city. Doesn't sound like a whole lot when you have 300. Parks. Right, that there were 1000 permits issued. And over all of those permits, actually only 800 of them were in parks. Okay. And of those 800 permits that were issued, we brought in at $83,000. And at that rate, just so y'all are aware, we don't this is not a cost recovery issue for the city. When we issue permits, we're not looking to say, hey, we need to recoup all the cost for maintaining this park. Right. We're not looking to I mean, we can we can't even pay our permitting staff with $83,000 that we gave, what might we be looking for when we issued permits? What are we trying to gain? What are we trying to do? Think that's another basic