much I didn't how much I didn't realize what was happening. Yeah. And, and and the risks that business owners were taking in order for me to be able to be there, there was not I didn't I just didn't understand and understand the the mechanisms that were at play and why certain things were the way they were. And this is also interesting in terms of, you know, when we talk about leadership, and we're often talking about transparency, and how certainly, like, I would say that older generation of architectural design practices, it's always been closed doors and not going to give you much information. And now we're starting to see, actually, and certainly when when you're talking about the generational difference, that actually transparency is very useful and very, very powerful. And in being able to empower other people to see where their position is in the in the organization. And also see, here's what other people are dealing with, to make the to make the ship just go forward. Yes. This is the energy that's being required. And that can be quite, you know, quite quite profound, actually. Interesting. You were talking about finding the right fit and making the distinction between liking somebody, and you know, can they actually do the job. And this is really difficult actually, and and like hiring is a really emotional, like, we're trying not to be emotional about it. But you get into a conversation and if you're empathetic and a good person, you can connect with someone and It's intoxicating. Yeah, you could literally be like, Oh, wow, they're theirs. They're so great. They're amazing. And then it's difficult to not let that color. The you know, well. Are they competent? How they, how they're going to behave under stress, how they're going to take instruction, how they're going to take direction. How are they going to how they're gonna respond when they're being held accountable, which is totally different relationship to, like a, like a friend dynamic or a peer dynamic, I think, for business owners is actually, it's quite a, it's quite eye opening, it's quite a learning curve.