Yeah, right. So in the in the scientific community, now there's this term that's been coined PPU problematic pornography use or self precede problematic pornography. So that's kind of become the term for those that see it as an addiction, but more the clinical or research term that's used. And so it is being recognized in that respect. However, it was a really interesting piece that you connected about religion, right. And that goes into a whole other territory, when it comes to problematic pornography use is that based on people's spiritual or religious beliefs, the self perceived severity of their pornography use also changes and also for their partner. And as we talked about trauma, it's not just the initial trauma that might trigger these habitual problematic relationships with pornography, you also go into the territory of the betrayal trauma piece with a partner that's being affected by the user's compulsive use. And they're experiencing their own level of trauma from the feelings of betrayal that might be heightened for someone that comes from a religious or a community where pornography is very much talked about under the umbrella of adultery, or more, more severe types of, you know, sexual abuse umbrellas within a relationship. And so what we talk about a lot is how careful you have to be with how you conceptualize pornography use both as the user and as the partner. Because it's not adultery. It's not this sexual abuse that might be painted out to be in some communities, we understand where they're coming from, and what they're trying to display by saying that, but it's not that and by by demonizing it to be this extent of adultery or whatever. It's actually making the problem so much worse for the users and the partners. And so that's part of what we do to defuse some of those strongly held ideas, where you can say, hey, yeah, you know, pornography, use does go against my values. But it's not on the same level as these other things. And I'm not addicted like someone is to something like methamphetamine or heroin, where it actually creates a true chemical dependency. That's not what's happening. What we have coined through our institute, and through our research, is something called reliance, we say that people will develop a reliance on pornography. And so it really does distinguishes the difference between addiction or even just habit, because we've heard, we've heard it on both spectrums, you know, a habit which makes it sound like something you can just easily break with persistence and addiction, which is something that, you know, is oftentimes such a difficult thing to overcome, but not everyone's able to do it. And we see it as a reliance, I guess, you've developed this reliance on this experience, for connection and so forth. It's really difficult to overcome, but you can do it with specific incorrect therapeutic tools and guidance. So we're right there in the middle. That makes sense.