So for one this past year, I don't even know I should have probably counted actually before I hit record but I have been interviewed for dozens of new podcast interviews this year for sure that at least I know for a fact more than 15 At the very least, but it's probably even more than that. And while I enjoy and love meeting people through podcast interviews on other people's shows while I always find value in creating and establishing new relationships with people through podcasting. I do feel that looking back on my year, I said yes to many podcasts opportunities, because of viewing it as Oh, this is a great connection point. Or I think, you know, like, if someone's inviting me to be on their show, it's never a bad thing. To have more visibility. I was kind of thinking more along those lines. But the truth is, there was no intentionality behind how I arrived to those podcasts, right? How I prepared for those podcasts in the sense that I was kind of just like, go with the flow, like all show up. And whatever the host wants to ask me, I'm more than happy to answer you guys know me, I'm a very open book. But because of that, and because for this entire year, we really weren't selling anything direct to consumer on an evergreen basis, right?