Yeah, well now, like, as I posted your YouTube video, when I look short on YouTube, every now and then, I get the boost region, music and nice picture. So thank you so much. You're
welcome, man, thanks. Glad to hear that you to switch it up a little bit. Obviously, that's just, that's just, what do you call it? I'm just trying to get five seconds of people's time around the logo and some cool image and maybe some inspiring sound. But I have some ideas about communicating like, like, a pitch for the concept, and then we're all be talking and then, and then the next one is like providing like, hundreds and hundreds of like specific examples of regeneration. I have, like, a formula for, like, bulk creating that. The only thing I'm trying to figure out is the sound. And I just read, I just made some really good REGEN tunes, which is a little bit more of a softer sound that I'll be adding as well. So and then it's also like, it's all very How do I put this limited by mid journey like so I only have so many mid journey prompts, and mid journey makes the coolest logos or video, I mean photos and graphics. So I have to have to be really conscious of that. That's my resource. Nice. Everything else is abundant. I
Hey, how cool is that? I mean, Gregory's working on the commons, regional commons.
You mean, yeah,
it's cool to see something going with that. I mean, if he's actively doing it, that's like, usually before, I would hear about it every like month or later. But now it's like a two to three week cadence starting to emerge, and I got to attend one of the things, and a lot of like, just like a bunch of tribes like trying to become Mumbai. We'll see what happens.
Yeah, they have no weekly calls. Unfortunately, there was like conflict of time. They're happening exactly at this time, so that's why Gregory mentioned he would join our call, but let's see. Maybe people are a bit late.
Yeah, I'm not really into the REGEN Commons. I'm into REGEN network,
but surely the region Commons is like a source for funding the network. No,
I hope so. I don't really fully understand it. There's a lot of technical words thrown around in the in those meetings, with like, a like emphasis on nerdiness. The group likes to call it, and I'm not really sure what sinks or like, what's gonna like. I don't, I don't understand that the levers there, but apparently you're saying that they can draw funding.
Well, yeah, I guess it would be a legal entity, and there would be some funding process. And funding would come to the regenerative projects, as far as I see,
yeah, they're experimenting with that Duna thing. And then the only thing I've heard about that is a little bit of experimentation. I first heard about it through this group, but before, like on a podcast, these like VCs were just making fun of making fun of dunas, making fun of it like asking, what's the underlying product offering like? What makes this superior and like, so far, they were very unconvinced of its merits. But they were like, Hey, if you do build something and whatnot, like, let us know, so that we can bring you on. Talk to you about it. Because they were ruthless. Man, they're usually ruthless. Like all they do is nitpick on these podcasts, but that's the only thing I know about it. Like they they def some people put some money down, and they're starting this brand new Wyoming construct called aduna. I don't know much too much about its underlying functions. Do you?
Well, I, I'm very about Duna. You know, as a thing, of course, it's really, really a novel. I know some register like that, but I don't, I haven't got practical experience with Duna. We have been such a legal link in one of my organization entrusted seed in Swiss Switzerland, it was like Association, Swiss Association, which was our framework of choosing back then, and Duna is seems to be more appealing to the US market.
Wow, interesting, interesting. Hey, I'm on the REGEN market, and I was able to so I put in the telegram chat. I found one project that is accepting REGEN payment, and I'm trying to figure out how to look for the other ones without clicking each credit, because especially on mobile, I have to be connected to the internet. Especially on mobile, I kept on clicking one credit, and I'd try to go back, and then it would just take me to the very first page, instead of where I literally was. And then I was trying to aggregate, I was trying to aggregate all the credits that we have for sale at their list price, because that could be considered TVL, because these guys are only selling it at a at at a profit. I mean, they have to sell it at a profit to operate, and most of them are selling it to retire. Let's see $44 one buy with crypto. And then when I click Buy with crypto, it wants me to log into Kepler, but I just want to see, yeah, like we
just saw Mark joining, so you would know as well. I just mentioned that Mark joined our call. I see him driving, so maybe he will be less participating, but,
yeah, I'm here. I'll be home shortly. Okay, okay,
drive safe. Minister,
can you, can you buy the echo credits via echo bridge? No,
no, that's another thing I was coming to bring up at the call. I was wondering, I was wondering if, if you can buy, but if you can also retire, because the corporate, the corporate route, the way that it goes, ideally for us, is, you know, Fiat stable coin, whatever, and then buys REGEN in full, then takes 50% of that REGEN retires, it claims the certificate, and then presents that as their ESG is there? Yeah, like, contribute that to their ESG report. And I was doing some research on whether or not that would be considered, uh, if that, like, passes certain ESG reports, like, like, what is, what do people think of that like, because they're always nitpicky about, like, these types of things, like, like, his investment, slash retirement, like possible, like, even if it's in the instrument, um, apparently, as long as this, as long as the retirement is made separate, there shouldn't be any, like, question of ethics or anything. And then I also compiled, like a, I'm like, building a report to, like, bring it to investors. Like, pitch it myself, probably, but essentially outlining with some compliance standards backing it, so that you can if this, if this funnel is, this route is available, where USD to REGEN to retirement certificate, you have an investment slash offset, and then if you really want to get happy tax wise, you make a donation to the foundation. And now you're like this triple threat, like regenerative, especially if you, you know you have dough and you need something to do with it, and that's the type of people I want to get in a meeting with. Like, come on, if, if you're taking this meeting on regeneration, if you had any idea what the meeting was about, like, you like, I'm not coming here because you, uh, essentially, what we need is somebody whose net worth is like, so large that it can carry that network for like two years of like building momentum. It just has to be 1.01% of someone's net worth, so that it's trivial for them to to invest. And like we offer the same potential as almost any other investment, 10x and then 10x plus, because if you're an ESG minded individual, then you're you're interested in the retirement certificates, and that's our main selling point, not trying to sell you REGEN particularly. But if you want an investment vehicle that complements your offset, your carbon emission strategy and a high integrity format, you essentially want to have REGEN. But the problem is the the people that we would most likely have to give this kind of report to this sovereign report, is third party custodials, who are most likely going to be the ones managing these corporate entities, finances.
Okay, let's see so we want to speak. You want to speak about this right then, I would like to bring some updates on the story development sprint, and maybe you can also discuss how we want to arrange our course with region command. See what is comfortable. Yeah, anything else, right? Yeah. Just like, it's a big coincidence to choose same hour. Hey, sohto, we can't hear you. Also put on the agenda.
On the agenda note,
yeah, sure.
Okay, any other topics? Okay, well, maybe, as we started Brandon, maybe we finish with your topic first, and then mark and then two more of my topics. Okay,
yeah, that sounds cool. Yeah, so the Eco bridge. I was wondering if, if it seems James isn't here, but if, if we can take the credits that do accept REGEN and put them in a pocket on eco bridge somehow, or prioritize routing of eco bridge to go to the tokens that accept REGEN, because that creates, that creates a market that that ties into our offering. That would be ideal. But, you know, we don't. It's not like, it's like contingent. But I just think it would be interesting to to see how we could potentially, like the lister would still get dollars. They list $100 for their credit. But the market, the market fundamentals like it routes and REGEN to not only increase because whenever someone swaps on on eco bridge, they are generating retirement certificates in their address, like their Address gets the retirement benefits. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I think if I can double check this real quick, that was what I want to kind of surface like. I also wanted to surface like the UI and the marketplace doesn't, it doesn't show that, except REGEN, like it only says crypto, and then main crypto is USDC. So if that could be improved somehow, that'd be that'd be helpful in like, driving REGEN is the as the the main asset to like, it's a it's an ESG vehicle, is essentially what I'm trying to say. It's an ESG vehicle, REGEN, as the ESG vehicle,
say Christian
Good morning. GM, Christian
Good morning. How you doing? Brandon,
I'm cool, man. What are you up
to? Our Christian froze for me,
yeah, he's a freezer, I tell you what.
Okay, but regarding what you said, I also noticed that, well, it wasn't expected. But as REGEN is now like on EVM chain, it seems like the only way to pay crypto is by connecting the Kepler, right? So it's also maybe a request for a feature like to enable EVM chains as well.
Are you talking about eco bridge?
No, I'm talking about the marketplace. So yeah, marketplace, you should be able to buy REGEN on seller, for example. Why not?
Yeah, well, maybe we should have a link also to to eco credits on on eco bridge, because it's because James sells eco credits across EVM chains on his own, on his own front end, you know? Yeah, yeah. If someone comes to the app dot REGEN, dot network, and then realizes they can only buy it with Kepler, it'd be really nice to have a link so you know, if you want to use Metamask, you can go here and retire eco credits through his his front end. Yes,
is there a way to submit such a feature to R and D team? Somehow?
I don't know if there's an external way. And I say external because we're on Slack, and I can do it through slack, you know, but, yeah, that's, that's also something. There should be a feature submission, I guess you could put it on the forum, you know?
Nice idea. Yeah,
if we can't prioritize the routing of REGEN to where REGEN can buy eco credits, like, if that mechanism can make sense, that would be, I think that'd be a huge power unlock. If, if, if I'm also doing investment, if I'm doing investment meetings with, say, like deck, which I kind of worked on yesterday, putting together something where I meet up with interested parties about about regeneration as a broad diversification strategy, because essentially, the type of people I want to meet with have more money than God, and essentially I'm closing them on, like a watch versus like, to make it easy, you know, but I have to understand, Like, the whole workflow, or the whole flow of like from sovereign and non sovereign strategy, yeah, because some
people decks out there. James had a deck that he was James and Mark had a deck that they used for the special purpose vehicle. I think at one point they had a deck called the, the case for $7 REGEN or something, or the case for $5 REGEN. And it was a, there was a whole deck about, you know, so that you should ask James for that.
All right,
there's, I think there's a lot of good stuff in there. I know that r, d Inc has a deck, but it's more, I think it's, it's an one focused on equity for R and D, though there's the tokens are highlighted in there, and Gregory's always been trying to make a deal where someone buys equity in R D, and they also buy REGEN so that they are, you know, have exposure to both, and are looking for upside in both. So it's mentioned in there, but I think, I think James's deck would be better,
right on, yeah, I got a guy that that I've been meeting with. He's gonna take a crack at making like a Deployer, a bot, like a trading bot Deployer, so that's built off of eco bridge, same infrastructure, okay? And that should provide, like a nice DCA product for for all kinds of interested parties, where they don't have to think too much about their investment, they can, they can think about it much, much, much more long term, and then also get really creative with strategy, with chat. They can get real crazy with strategy, and that just leads to more volume, right? And one potential selling angle is like, if somebody comes in and they just want to trade REGEN through eco bridge infrastructure or the bot Deployer, then essentially, every time they make swaps, they get to they get to claim those retirement certificates at the end of each month. I think that's the cadence. And that's a great that's a great selling point for an ESG, like minded trader, if, if you could find one,
but I'm just ranting here, Max if, if you want to take it elsewhere, just kind of, I was working on the shoulder.
Thanks for sharing. Maybe it's a good time to move question, if you don't mind, of course. Mark liquidity node, go ahead.
Are you with us? You're on mute, Mark.
Maybe Mark is still going, so maybe then in the meantime, I can share with you some of the new developments. So Christian, you may remember this. Share my screen, but yeah, maybe on your mobile it would be good. But yeah, I was speaking with some people about this target behavior we want to see, like portfolio buyers, buying and retiring, much more like aggregated Sun REGEN and about the sense of proudness. So one of the interesting discussion happened recently with the Cerulean ventures space here, so few ideas from his side was that potentially we shouldn't like it's it's kind of a bit weak to build on emotions, because emotions are impermanent, and Maybe we should build on the commitment of people and yeah, and their legacy. So in that context, also he mentioned that we should have a better mark is rejoining. We shouldn't mix our target audience into one, you know, bucket. So when they speak, speak about the REGEN holders. There might be various types, you know, from short sellers, speculators, actually committed people. So for size holders, ideally, we should be checking out and monitoring top 1000 REGEN holders and see their patterns, and ideally, know who are the biggest holders and their commitment to hold REGEN further. Because also, like what he mentioned, is like he believes that investors are the last to eat, so it's okay that, you know, it's takes time, but first, there should be this network development happening before we proceed the outcomes. And also, like another big point was that ideally, we should not target like increasing the echo created bias that happens already, but we should maybe integrate into the current streams. So because strategically, it's much easier task in order to see where they what is, what already and try to become part of that, than to create demand on a very new asset class. Because what he said, like the finance financial people who would be making these purchases are mostly risk averse, and it's really hard to persuade them to go into like, novel asset class or whatever,
and also he, in order to do that, we Need to produce some specific messaging and results that would show showcase what exactly happens with REGEN integrations in terms of how the transparency improves, the efficiency improves. So how actually we solve this? You know, half of the money,
instead of the project, how exactly it happens in our case, how much like projects receive, and so on. So I guess this messaging could be materializing in some articles or research. I don't know. I'll stop here. Maybe you have some reflections or suggestions questions.
Yeah, the risk of, damn, they're risk averse. We don't need no one who's risk averse. Get out of here, man, risk averse. Get out of here. Who are these types that are risk averse,
like, you know, this New York finance people, or Davos, you know, like Monaco finance.
We need 10 people.
Wait, I'm a New York finance guy.
Hey, don't be risk averse, then
risk averse. Yeah, we need people who are not risk averse. That's who I'm targeting. Is like, if I get into a meeting and they're like, Well, what about this? What about this? Shut up, ladies, listen this phone call. Listen this meeting right now. This isn't a this is our Do you want high integrity, climate impact? Yes or no, yes or no, and then do you want an investment asset to pair with that? Yes or no, if you don't, we don't have anything for you. Like, God damn dude, that's one of the that's one of the huge, that's a huge problem. But what do you think we'll get out of like, the top 1000 holders of REGEN token? Like, you just want to see why they want to keep holding. I
I was writing this poll recently about what is REGEN, and there were some interesting results, but mostly that only seven people could participate. I even shared it through the new like our emails, like of participants and so on, but it was like seven people. So if you want to really know the feedback from the REGEN folders, except of on the you know, market data, it's, let me need to come closer to them, see their patterns, you know, or track how it changes, you know. Like, do people buy on top of their stake. You know, do they slowly sell or, like, radically, some just exit. For example, he mentioned, like, if there is a big holder and he decides to exit, that could be, like, a really significant event for the whole economics,
100% that's a good point. Yeah, we're in that. We're in, that that phase, that's, yeah, that's and then you got the you like it. You also have the jailed validators that are like, you know that that's like, also an event as well.
Another interesting point was that, like, I see that people like to speak about legacy, and there is, like, a lot of people feel proud about, for example, for what they contribute to REGEN. I see there is, like, lots of interesting things still from Matthew, I heard that he sees REGEN, not as a financial value proposition like it's technically a charity would be considered like that. He says, because people don't see generally, they don't see the eight types of capital and they try to solve their immediate life situation, you know, making international decision. And, yeah, so, Richard, go ahead.
Yeah. Thank you. So one thing, if that's the case, like, I'm very open to, like, all kinds of strategy, if we want to go charity focus, that's fine. But the there's, it's all about capital funnels and getting the chain used. You know what I mean, and and so is anyone from the foundation here right now? No, well, so they have a the foundation donation portal is called every.org and my request for that, because a lot of people associate this with a public charity, is to update The image. The image for that link to something more brand aligned or corporate that that's like, my one request, because that's going to be part of the the deck, yeah, like, you know, where do you want to put your money? If you're interested in investment, you're looking for a write off. You're looking for, you know, emissions, like that. That's it. So I'm glad you brought that up.
