Yeah, no, we went out well, no, we didn't really go out. We went out it on on the air. Yeah, about. This is June and it was it was April of four years ago. So approximately 15 months ago. We went out on the air. It was about a candidate of his who had said some really ridiculous things, you know, pandering to his social conservative audience in a church. So he was doing I guess he was doing a late pastor. thing he was I guess he was the guest pastor. And he talked about women killing their babies. You know, abortion, is what he was talking about. But he insisted on some women killing their babies. And then he insisted on the idea that men cannot love men, you know, is a homophobic message, your anti anti LGBT message, and it was really hideous stuff. And so I had Kenny, listen to it. Not that he hadn't heard it before. Although he said he hadn't heard Before, I guess I'll have to take his word for it even though he did a news conference about it a day earlier, I don't know how he would have done a news conference about it. He had listened to. But anyway, he did not want to take this candidate out of the UPC, but essentially the Alberta conservative that ecosystem, I didn't expect him to tell people not to vote for the candidate. This was just a couple of weeks before the election, I expect that he would do what both of us had agreed on the air about a year earlier. And Alberta conservative leader would do if they had a so called Bozo eruption, a previous leader of the Wildrose party who happens to be the premier now Danielle Smith, had a problem with with a candidate who was massively homophobic, is known as the lake of fire a sermon. And Danielle Smith did not want to disassociate the party from him. And that cost her the election. So Jason Kenney and I just talked about this on the air the same way as we went off the air. And on the air, we both agreed that if something like this were to happen to his party, his United Conservative Party Down the road, that he would simply say something like, look, this candidate is on the ballot, and it's a democracy and the people in the writing, want to vote for the candidate that that's there as the Democratic option. However, I want the people in that particular writing this case in Alberta writing, I'd want them to know that that candidate will not be seated with a caucus because that can be doesn't represent the values of Alberta the values of the United Conservative Party, Jason Kenny's values, and that expected candidate to say precisely that about this particular candidate, and he didn't, you know, he went into I don't know what you want to call it, the political mode. And I felt really insulted. And on a personal level, I felt I felt betrayed, because I felt I had his word that he wouldn't go forward with this kind of kind of nonsense. And that was an easy way out. And I thought he would take it plus, I just thought from a polling perspective, I mean, he was well into the double digits ahead of the NDP, there was no doubt who was going to win. And so the idea that he was desperate to, to pander to the people in that writing doesn't make any sense didn't make any sense. And it's not like that candidate was going to lose that. Right. And, you know, we know that in many ridings in Alberta and other parts of the country, that people are cemented to their political brand. And it doesn't really matter what the name is, because in the overwhelming majority cases, people couldn't decide the 70% 80% 90% of the time that people aren't voting for the candidates anyway, they're voting for the political party. So he had, he had no downside. And I don't know why he chose to do what he did. But you know, it basically put my own credibility on the line. I was known as a friend of, of Jason Kenney. And I was until I guess that night, when the friendship was was torn asunder, but I certainly wasn't going to have him destroy my credibility. I certainly wasn't gonna sit there and go, okay. Okay. Okay. I think Thanks, Mr. Kenney. Now, let's go on to talk about oil prices. I just I, I didn't let go. I was a dog with a bone. And then I had to ask him a few character questions related to his past. Past stuff that was on the record. And he just, he failed. He failed the character test that night. And I guess most of us failed the the friendship test.