So firstly, I would like to talk about that we had it was in the empathy circle about climate change, and it happened to be that there were climate activists and people who denied that climate change is mankind made or has to do anything with our industry. And of course, people were very eager to get in contact with persons like this, because normally, we are in our bubble. And the empathy circle was very with big was done with big feelings, and it happened that in this mirroring, they didn't come up with the same idea of how climate change is happening, but they found that they're not so far away from each other if it comes up to what to do. So you really could see that the levels of thematic and content based deliberation can shift over time in this empathy circle, and the question of what truly matters evolves through the encounter. In the beginning, some of the people were having the inner feeling of, okay, it's a good empathy circle if we come up with a fitting idea, and in the end, it was not necessary anymore. Second thought I want to, I want to tell you about, is balancing power relations. I don't I then think that I have to tell you that we all the time we have big power relations in when we start talking to each other, also in a empathy circle, of course, and concerning many issues. And I want to tell you about two examples. One example was with a layout of the room empathy circle. There were many people from this company talking together in this way, the for for the first time, and the two people who who were in charge of, in the end, to find a solution of how to design and lay out these rooms. They really get a very, very deep understanding of the wisdom of each person who is involved in this process, and to get a deeper understanding of how they can fulfill their jobs, taking into account the different people who would not be heard if they wouldn't have this empathy circle, or very similar, when we had the empathy circle about the service there was, there were people talking to each other who had a very high power, like professors and priests, and people like me, you can talk a lot, and I have fast opinion. And then there was one student, and in my experience, she brought the most helpful issues for the process. She had the same time to talk as the other did, as the others did, and this created a situation that the other guys had to stop talking and really get in this listening and mirroring or reflecting. And I really could see that the process was so valuable because she really got the space this perspective needed for the whole process. So the implicit power structures really became more fluid through this empathy circle. And the equal distribution of the time, gave the people a rhetorical power that they would not otherwise have. In this way, even if the people are nice in Lutheran, they wouldn't have let her spoken so much. The third issue, of course, balancing feelings and self relationship. I think you all know it yourself. I want to talk about my experiences in this case. So in one case, it was about the crisis of care, crisis empathy circle. There was this lady, she later told me that she really knew what to say, and she really had a good idea. Oh yes, this is a good contribution if I say this. And then she had to listen and reflect. She had to listen, and she had to listen, and she had to listen. And suddenly, when it was her term, she said something totally different. She planned to say, and she really experienced what it made with herself when she was listening so long, and was released from this effect just to have to say something so so fast. Or another example is we had this empathy circle about on tyranny, where it is about fascism and how to how to strengthen our democracy. And there was one contribution by one participant, and she was showing in what way she would hope to act when it really comes to face real, oh, I'm sorry I'm missing the word that she cannot be a Professor anymore if there would be an oppression, a repressive moment from their chiefs, and she would say, I would skip being a professor if I would come into that situation. I'm not sure. I cannot say, because I don't know what an such situation I will be, but that's hopefully what I will do. And then another participant, she was saying, Oh, I'm I'm feeling so tingled. I'm feeling tingling because it really touches me so deep, and I realize am I'm also already in this situation, because I have such tensions to get along with my position in my work and what my chiefs tell me to do or not to do, and this, this empathy circle moments really help this mirroring to to mirror each other helps you To make it possible to connect with your own feelings and to take the next step, and by listening for longer, a new relationship to one's own views and feelings can be created. So that was my contribution. Thank you very much for every one of you for listening. Here you have the link. I can send it in the chat and yeah, thank you. Applause.