Community Hours: Call to Action Art Commission REMIX

2:36PM Mar 28, 2022

Speakers:

Kira

Sara

Aditi

Keywords:

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embroidery

fabric

feminism

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wikimedia commons

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All right. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Thank you, everyone for being here. We are offering French interpretation for today's presentation. So we do encourage you to use the correct channel. You should see it at the bottom here. Does everyone see it? Yes, yes, yes. Great. So we would encourage you to use the channel that best suits what your needs are for today's presentation. I'm really excited for you to be here for our community hours this call to action art commission remix. It is part of the art and feminism community hours Program. My name is Kira Wisniewski and I have the distinct honor and pleasure of being Executive Director here at Art+Feminism. I'm going to just go over a couple beginning slides. So just kind of like some housekeeping part. We'll go over our brave friendly space agreement and then I'll pass it over to Sara to who as our presenter today, who will give the presentation, do some q&a and then also wrap up so you might have recalled from the description of the event that we are excited to be able to offer a materials reimbursement for today. So if you would like to use that we are happy to offer that if you needed to go buy supplies to participate today. Also on that forum and for all of our community hours we offer a data internet connectivity reimbursement. And this is for attendees who reside in regions for expenses for private internet or data cost of prohibitively expensive art in feminism is able to offer a $5 stipend to offset those costs. So there is a button for that and that materials reimbursement form. But if you do want to use the data reimbursement, not the materials reimbursement, there's a form for that there. Are all sorts of forms. But if you have any questions about that, happy to answer those, of course. So we like to start all of our sessions at our feminism with our brave friendly spaces agreement. So we believe in Brave and friendly spaces the goal of this session is to create an encouraging space for collective learning. With this requires intentional behavior where participants are conscious of and accountable for the effect of their statements and actions on others respect our experiences and the experience of others and recognize that we can't do this work without one another. We agree to hold each other accountable to foster a brave and friendly space. So I want to also give note that we will be recording the session.

I want to give everybody a moment now, if you wish to not be recorded, you can turn off your camera and make your participant name anonymous. So we will wait just a quick moment for that. If you have questions about that, and then I'm going to hit record.

All right, I'm gonna start recording recording on

Okay. All right, so we're recording. Alright, so now, housekeeping aside. I was so excited you all to welcome Sara Clugage, as our presenter today for this really exciting community hours. Sara Clugage art practice focuses on economic and political issues and crack and food. She is the editor in chief of dilettante army and online journal for visual and critical theory and core faculty for the master's program and critical craft studies at Warren Wilson College. I'm going to stop sharing my screen now and let Sara take it over.

Thanks, Kira.

I'm very excited to be here with all of you today. I'm going to start sharing Oh no. Can I share my screen yeah welcome everybody from wherever you are, I'm gonna Okay, well. Now I have a security tab and banana share screen tab. Something happened oh here about just share screen share screen. Okay, here we go. Sorry about that. Okay, um, I wanted to start um, what's morning for me our time together by just walking through what we're gonna do today. So today, we're calling this the remix community hours and the idea is to take advantage of Creative Commons licensing on Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons in order to adapt and remix artwork that's already there. And today we're working with two new pieces of art from the art and feminism call to action or commission. So what we're gonna do today is go through a little bit of information about media files on comments, talk about what it is to remix an image and go through some embroidery. I see a hand up. She have a question. Of course,

comment, please. Yeah, sure. Come on. I'm gonna see from Nigeria, please. My friends are here with me but they have not gotten the invite link. Okay.

Hi, negozi you can go ahead and share the link with them directly. It should also be in the calendar invite. Um, also if they email me, they will get an audit office that has the link directly

to them thanks,

Rosie. i Sorry about communication. Um, this first part is pretty intro and you can follow all along with the link from where you are. Maybe Kira, could you put the link to the presentation in the in the chat? That would

be definitely definitely Okay.

Um, okay, so let's get started with that. Kind of basics first. What is Wikimedia Commons Commons is a media file repository that makes available public domain and freely licensed education. media content,

because you get the link so just want to check that you got what you need. Okay,

um, you can see more about this on Wikimedia Commons in the pay on the page for a project scope. But basically, the idea is the commons files are used to illustrate Wikipedia articles and four, other Wikimedia sister projects. So it's a common common media file repository for all of those projects. You get it

um,

what kind of files can you put on comments? Importantly, all content has to be in a free file format. So that means JPEGs PNGs F. SVG GIFs. Ogg, which is a video file format, and mp3 are all allowed. But there are some proprietary file formats that are not allowed on Commons like you. If you have Apple products. For instance. Your photos are stored in a file format called a GIC. And that's proprietary to Apple so you have to convert it to another file format in order to upload it on comments. Every file on comments has a license attached to it that allows that file to be shared freely. There are a few common types of licenses the most common where I am in the United States is Creative Commons in Europe. The most common license type is GMU and there are several others. But we're going to be working with Creative Commons licenses today. So, the art and feminism called Arden actually our commission uses that creative commons license it especially this type called the cc b y essay, and there are layers to Commons license. And CC This means Creative Commons. Right that just identifies the type of license be why refers to attribution it means literally by like this work is by someone. And this license layer allows your work to be used for anything including commercially to be remixed or adapted as long as the person who uses that file says who it's from. So as long as they credit you, they can do what they like with it.

And then the last part

of that license type is essay and it means share alike, which means that each new work that remixes or adapts your work must be credited credited to you, as we said before, and it also must be licensed under identical terms, which means that it stays freely available. So if I remix a DTS work and I use an SA light, she used an SA license. I also have to use that license type in order to make sure that it stays available in the way that she intended. So today, we're talking about what you can upload to comments, including these artworks. There's a very handy flowchart that is the first thing you will see when you open the Wikimedia Commons upload wizard. This is kind of a basic rough graphs of what you can upload to comments and what you can't. If you go to this link here, you'll see some annotations to this document that describes some special cases. But we're gonna go over the basics today. You can upload works to comments that you have created yourself as long as they do not depict copyrighted material. So that includes you can upload pictures of public figures of animals plants, non artistic objects, meaning nothing that has an intellectual property attachment to it. But if you're, you know, you can take a picture of it. It also includes any graphic works that you have created yourself. So if you make a graph or a map or diagram you can upload that to comments. And you own the copyright to that. When you upload your work, you grant permission to anyone to use, copy, modify and sell it without contacting you. So anything you put up there is free for anyone to use for any reason and they don't have to get your permission to use it beforehand. Okay, what can't you upload? You can't upload anyone else's work. That means no logos, no commercial images, screenshots of movies, drawings of copyrighted material like cartoon characters. And truthfully, most pictures on the internet cannot be accepted on comments. There are a lot of images floating out there, but that doesn't mean that there's copyright attached isn't copyright attached to them. It means that they're being used in violation of copyright.

Very commonly.

There are two exceptions. If you get permission from someone else, it's usually written permission to upload their work. You can do that if their work again is already licensed as CCB. Why sa they've already granted permission to adapt your copy their work and you don't need their written permission. But if they have not released it under that license, you do need to contact them and get in get that permission. You can also upload photographs of older art, statues and buildings. The kind of general guideline is over 150 years old, because those are considered to be artistic works in the public domain. So kind of in conclusion, you can upload and license your own work, you cannot upload and license someone else's work.

So

we the art and feminism Call to Action art commission has commissioned three artists this year to create original artwork and upload their own artwork to comments. You can find them all by following this link and we'll go to that in a minute. You can see them all here from past years. And then this year's two artworks here. You can remix these artworks. You can do anything you want with them. You can make new artwork, no new digital images. You can use them for posters, buttons, embroidery patterns, like we're doing today. They're often used to kind of promote for promotion of art and feminism events used to illustrate editor thoughts and stuff like that makes swag. Weird. We're going to be uploading some artwork today or at least I am and then I'll walk you through how to do it with your own work. There is kind of a guideline for what you can upload in terms of your own artwork and what you can't. So because Wikimedia Commons is not a private file repository, it's not appropriate to upload photos, photographs of you and your friends all have your own artwork. You know, you can't really host your portfolio on Commons and, but this kind of carve out that I've highlighted in this blue box right here is what we're looking at today. So you can't upload self created artwork without obvious educational uses. But for this, we're saying that the artwork we're uploading today does have an educational use, because there's educating people about feminism, and it is also attached to art and feminism, which is an educational endeavor.

And I

wanted to say this is kind of where the idea for this little community ours came from, is that I for a few years, organize all the volunteers for the editor THON that happens at MoMA in New York City. And with the volunteers, I got into the habit of making buttons every year, and so in I think this was Yeah, okay 2018 To stay smiling smiley made this fantastic gift about internet feelings of rage and sorrow. And I decided to make a button out of that. So I printed some fabric with the sorrow and that she uses in her GIF and attached it to this rage button like a little promotional Roset for candidacy. You can do whatever you want with this stuff. I you can and I am sure you have all have creative ideas. For this workshop we're going to work on some embroidery. So if you haven't done this yet, if anyone is just getting started, the first step is to download the file. So you're gonna go to this page. You're going to pick whatever you want. You're going to decide, you know what size you want to download it as and then figure out what kind of how to appropriate that that for your the size of the embroidery you want to do so you might have to size it down or up depending on what you want. And then you print it out and the next step is to transfer the design to your fabric. So this is one method of transfer. There are a few that work really well. If you're using white fabric, this one's super easy. You can just tape the print out to a window and use the light that's coming through that to trace your embroidery design. over it. So this is my window here in Brooklyn. I taped this up on the window and then I taped some shear ish white fabric over it and I'm using kind of a light fabric with a lot of give to it. It has a strong bias so I really had to tape that down to make sure I didn't squiggle around. Then just use a regular pencil to trace the lines from the design onto your fabric. If you are working with a darker fabric that needs a contrasting color and that you can't see through a good method is to use the stuff called wax free transfer paper is just a paper that's coated with colored chalk and you can find it in a lot of sewing supply stores or notions. And you just want to choose a color that contrasts with your fabric. So if you're using you know a red fabric you can use a blue a blue transfer paper if using dark fabric, maybe use a bright yellow something that's going to show up and then maybe hard to see in a white background but put your fabric down. Put the transfer paper over it so that the chalk side is facing towards your fabric and put your artwork on top of that. And then you use tape it all down and the same kind of method. From there. You're going to trace your design with a pencil over your printout. So you're just looking to make enough pressure that the chalk will transfer to your fabric. And you'll see here this is what I did with a DTS work and you'll notice here that I it didn't just print out the design the way that she designed it because it would have been a little complicated for embroidery, but I took some elements from that and move them around in Photoshop to make kind of the size and complexity that I wanted. So you'll see that your when you're done pressing down with your pencil, your fabric will have a lightly marked design over it. It can sometimes be kind of hard to see. So you might want to go over it with something like a water soluble pencil or graphite pencil. Something that will come out in the wash so that when you're done embroidering, you can put it run some water over it, put it through the washing machine any either way. And then the marks will disappear and your thread will remain. Oh sorry, you should and then you're going to put it into an embroidery hoop. If you haven't used one of these before. It's really simple. Here I'll undo this one and show you

you'll have your fabric like this and then you've got a hoop that has two pieces to it an inner hoop and an outer hoop and the outer hoop has this little screw on top. And that's to tighten the fabric over. So you're gonna put your fabric over your one hoop like that. And then put this hoop over the second hoop so that it holds it in like that. Tighten the screw so that it's holding your fabric in there really tightly and then just kind of like pull it around. So that it's Oh, it's taut in there and then go too far so it all burst out of your embroidery hope. Um, but yeah, it's pretty simple to do. And then time to stitch. I put four stitches in this presentation that are really good for graphic works because they make solid shapes or straight lines. Backstitch is probably your best friend for outlining graphics shapes. You just move your needle a little bit away, go back into the hole you started from. Move out, go back to the second hole, so that you're always creating a continuous line. You're just looping it along. satin stitch is great for filling in shapes. It's just, you know, lots of stitches next to each other that can put a lot of thread weight on top of the fabric seating stitch is good for texture if you have to fill in a large area but you don't want to cover it all in satin stitch because that would take too long or be too too dark or too graphic. This is kind of an in between stage that gives you like an overall pattern. And then french knots are great for dimension and texture. So if you want something to stand out from the page, from a page from the fabric, you can add a knotted stitch and that'll give it and like kind of make it poof out. And that's really it. So today, but next thing I want to do quickly is walk through what to do if you want to go through this process and then upload your finished piece to comments. So I'm going to start over here. The first place you go is the upload wizard. And you'll you'll find you can find this page just by Googling like Wikimedia Commons upload wizard you'll see that the first page you get to is this flowchart we just looked at so it's warning you this this kind of thing you can upload to comments, make sure that what you're doing fits these rules, right. So I'm going to click Next. And then I'm going to find one of my files

uploading Okay,

so you'll see that there's a little bit warning about your metadata. If you want to make sure that your file is anonymous, that it's not traceable to where you are geographically. You can look in that you can examine the metadata on your file and wipe that I I'm fine with that right now. So I'm going to continue okay, this is about release right. So beside requires you to provide copyright information for this work to make sure everyone can legally reuse it. And I'm going to click this file is my own work. It's gonna I'm already signed into comments so it's gonna fill in my name. This is my username dill Aton army says I am the copyright holder of this work and I wrote irrevocably grant anyone the right to use this work under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike 4.0 license Okay, so image title I'm it's automatically filled in the file name that I gave it right here lady Saba embroidery. I think that's fine. And then for the caption, you can just say embroidery of ladies, Java. I

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and then a description and I am going to use a tripod if I already wrote it out, so I'm trying to find it. Okay, here we go. I'm going to provide something of the attribution and licensing in the description here. So I'm using a template that is available. Sorry, let me find my tab. You'll see it right here. There's a derive from template if you want to use this in wiki markup language. So it'll just give you this example. And you'll fill in your own information. Here. It's not fully required, but

it is I think, helpful.

Okay, so I've added a description, date for work was created or first published that's today. And then I'm going to add a couple categories so that it gets sorted where I want it to be sorted and people can find it so I'm going to add art and feminism.

I'm going to add a call to action.

Here we go call to action art commission. So it will be sorted in and then maybe a few describers. So this is embroidery. There's another category for stitched images. Since this is a representative image that's probably helpful. And there you go. That's it. I'm going to click Publish files

publish There you go. Um, okay,

so I'm going to stop sharing and I would love to hear any questions that you have. Or stuff you want to talk about this kind of time for

questions.

Here we go stop, share. Whoever, okay. Any people from you? Yeah, getting people one more person from the waiting room. And I would also love to hear from a DC who was like graciously with us today if you wanted to talk a little bit about what you made in your subject area and how your process I would love to hear it. I've been staring at it for weeks. Yeah, I really

love what you've done with the embroidery, especially with like the misogynist. internalized misogyny piece the hair looks really good.

Hey um, I like the ladies are biased basically, we've got Batman that is same for women in public transport. Like trains in Mumbai, where I am from, and I've been traveling, I've been traveling from it, since I can remember since I can remember traveling.

So

that that space has always felt very interesting and also like on a personal note, when I started sketching. I used to have a lot of time when I used to come back from college in them be trains. So I used to sketch I was to observe people in that while sitting in the train and sketch them so that's just personal. But, so yeah, I have always felt that space is very interesting and like, it is a good representative of like the women I see around me. So I have like I have tried to sketch ladies above a lot of the times before also, but like I've never published it. So I was like this this this is a good opportunity to use this area.

Yeah, it's I mean, this is a perfect use for that kind of artwork. I think it's phenomenal that it's with art with art and feminism on comments now and I love your make space take space texts edition. There.

Thank you. Yeah, because even though the like the space is interesting and representative of who around me the space is very small. It's not enough for everybody who is in that space. So So I wanted to extend the extended by putting make space stickers.

Yeah, it does look like there you all are packed in there. But everyone's kind of carefully moving around everyone else, which the lovely way to describe it. Yeah, thanks a DC. Um, I don't want to, you know, offer you up but if anyone has questions for Aditi feel free to speak them out or put them in the chat. In the meantime, I see Alison asking for any particular colors for you to use. You can use anything you want. I kind of stayed I think pretty close to the colors that are in the work. Here's my little one of internalized misogyny and you'll see that I kind of try to interpret the colors that are in the graphic work kind of as close as I could with the thread that I have. I use this kind of metallic pink for the hair which I thought made it like stand out a little bit. But I think you could go anywhere you I mean this could be in blue and red. It could be all black and white. I think anything you want to use and that's probably part of the fun of it. Is getting to add in what you want. And truthfully, you I mean, this is maybe fairly faithful to the original design, but you don't have to be you could mix these up together. You could add in your own artwork with elements from here, or from Yeah, anywhere you want to source imagery. And I have a big stash of just like, I mean, you'll see like I've just got thread colors, you know, around the wazoo, so I just kind of picked out what I had around the house and work with what I got

great, thank you pick through my box two thumbs up.

You Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay

Hello, Hello. Sorry. I think I missed that.

Okay, is there a time limit for us to upload what we have done?

No, you can do it. Any at any time. Yeah. You could take months. It's really you may we don't want to spend months on this. But no, there's no time limit and it's not attached to art and feminism or this event really. So you can do. You can upload anything to comments on your own time and the this the slide deck will be available forever too. So you can come back to this later if you want. Okay,

yeah, thank you very much.

Of course.

Has anyone started? An embroidery yet? or have any questions about stitching?

Comments? Oh, some

of them. Excellent hour.

Okay, can we go

out on our own and design and it's a meeting we like, can we? Yes, yes. Okay. Okay. So we can do as much as we like, using our embroiling materials.

Yes. Anything you'd like?

And you don't have to, um, you know, you can do this with any image on comments too. It doesn't have to be attached to the call to our call to action or commission. We're just using this as like a fun example.

Sorry, yes. Okay. Exactly hashtag for Ross to attach to the image so that he can be identified as part of this workshop.

Well, when you use it on social media, I'll defer to Kira you can use hashtag art and feminism.

Feminism.

We still now editing AF. Yeah, so hashtag I'll put it in the chat.

Can you type into the chat? Uh huh. Okay, got it in there. Okay. There we go. Okay. Okay, okay. Cassie has a ton feminism has no editing.

And if you want to upload it to comments, comments, doesn't use hashtags, but they do use categories. So you saw me assign those categories at the end of the My Little upload, but you can look for the I will put these in chat. But there are some relevant categories like art and feminism. You can do feminism embroidery, etc. So, those just those kinds of descriptors make it helpful for people who are searching for these images on comments. They can find them using these categories. She mezze it might seem that way. Did you have a question?

Thank you so my question is we are preparing for our equity wants initiative as feminism events that is coming up soon. Is it possible for us to promote this particular work walk in the workshop in the training? Is it possible for us to involve other people that are not currently here? To be part of this? This project that is number one, they'll say company?

Our phones and because we have and we also have websites. So I'm wondering if it will be allowed for us to promote the these projects through these different various platforms?

Yes, absolutely. Um, these images are free to use for anything you like. And you can you can use this activity for your own editor thoughts, your own events. That's that would be amazing. That's great. And you can use the images on social media or wherever you like. Because I've just uploaded them using this Creative Commons license, which lets you do anything you want with it. Okay,

because what I'm thinking right now is we have so many young people that have interest in arts, and we really want to encourage them using this platform. So I'm looking at a possibility of us organizing these young people in our organization, and they can come up with their artwork, and I want to know if we can use this platform to promote their artwork and also promote the project.

Do you mean use Wikimedia Commons to promote the artwork or use art and feminism?

Is that something okay?

Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I think you can. Kiera you might be able to answer that better than I am. Yeah, I

mean, that's a great question. We love to highlight the work of our community. So if there is work of artists that's happening at the events that you're you're organizing, that you'd like us to highlight on the art and feminism social media, we'd love to hear about it. So definitely contact us and we can see what we can do.

Okay, thank you.

And I think that sounds like a great idea and a good way to get kids especially involved and give them something to do in an event.

Thank you. I'd like to do that.

leaving some space for other questions. Oh, yeah. Alison, I did have a question is the wicked are sorry, the wicked media is a different login than the

Wikipedia. Is that right? It is

yes, you can have a page on either. I actually don't have a page on comments because I don't do a lot of uploading. But you can log in through Wikipedia to get to Wikimedia Commons. You just won't have a user page there with the sandbox. So yeah, if you if you're used to editing on Wikipedia, like I am, you'll have you have your user page with like some practice space. Unless you create another page on Commons, you won't have one of those there. Okay, that's the only difference Yeah.

Are there any other questions? Helene is just like going to town So, already quite busy.

Getting busy again. You're muted. And goes you're you're muted.

Okay, okay. I'm sorry. I have a much much. Okay. Um, I'm looking for the link for the room. embossment for the materials.

I think curate that for you again. Yeah.

I'll put it back in the chat again.

Okay. I'd love to hear about what Helene is working on.

Sure. Um, so I'm working on Wendy red stars work. A scammer a scam knee, muttering meth material inheritance, sorry for the massacre of the pronounciation and so I'm working on just patterning in the different very, very raw shapes. And so the and I'll show you another one that I did that has the same pattern.

So Oh, wow,

that looks amazing.

Yeah, they're repeat patterns. I've been having a lot of fun with these in the past few weeks. And I like when I saw the project pass by it was like an opportunity to try to do something other than landscape. So I'm trying it out.

So are you Yeah, yeah, sure.

Go ahead. Yeah. So it's just the same sort of shapes coming in. Yeah. And I'm going to be

separating out parts of the image and embroidering them all separately.

Yeah. So yeah. So the the shapes are quite raw like the the initial shapes and then it's going to be filled in with different patterns. Oh, wait, I'm not sure if it's going to be successful.

What a great idea though.

And it's like a real life Photoshop layers. Which is fantastic. Anyone else

embroidering right now or? I was very excited about the workshop. Boom, ready?

Yeah, I've been having a lot of fun now. I want to do so many more of them

a detail Sara that I love that you did is the tiny attribution. Can you show that?

Yeah. You can see like on a DTS a little ECY sa up here. And then name down here. I didn't do the title because that seemed like a lot of letters. But same thing here name a little kind of running off the CC. Vy sa I've had a lot of conversations with people about how to attribute how to work attribution into a physical object, which is not really what Commons is designed for. It's meant to give you you know, an ideal citation has the file name, the creator and the licensing, but that's a lot to embroider in tiny letters. And sometimes you wouldn't even have kind of the opportunity for that. Like imagine making like a bronze sculpture like where are you going to put that maybe you could stamp it into the underside or something. But it's so we kind of made up our own thing. I wanted certainly to have the licensing on there and attributed to the Creator. But I think you could come up with a lot of methods that did the same thing in different ways. But a little bit more difficult in this medium then type typing in a URL, or just or assigning a painting. It's not a medium that lends itself to lengthy, lengthy acknowledgments.

I was gonna share screen real quick to show everyone just the reference that Helene was making. So this is the Wendy Redstar commission

that was

the second commission from the call to action art commission.

And Wendy Redstar has a series of work called absolute aka feminist. So this work ties like directly into the rest of her artwork. I'm a big fan of her so very exciting when this question happens. We've got

some Well, if we

don't have any other questions, I think we can just send all of us off to work independently on our projects.

That sounds good. Yeah,

I want to thank you all so much for joining today for the community hours. I want to thank Sarah so much for your excellent facilitation and embroidery and just really showing us about these great works that you've been doing. I do want to highlight that we have another community hours that's going to be coming out at the end of or actually sorry, no, we're at the end of the month now. early next month. It's about event metrics. So if you're an organizer and interested more about that it's going to be using wiki data. I just put the signup form in the chat right now, happening on April 9. So hope to see you there and negozi I see that your hamstrings

go ahead and go along. Hello. Yes, go ahead.

I want to ask you please. And uploads to wiki Commons. We need to inform you do we need to notify you that we have uploaded

and no you don't. You're free to do it on your own and as often as you like. Of course we would like to see it so I mean, you're not required to notify us but you know, we'd love to see it. Sure. Definitely.

Okay, okay. That's very good.

Thank you, you said

are you breaking something right now? negozi?

Yes. Is Greg lemon this from you?

Great. Thank you for coming.

Go ahead. Okay. Team members for this great work is really quite interesting is encouraging. I am sure that we would use the lights or use these to motivate our young artists from this end. So I just appreciate you for the innovation and say that we are happy to be part of it. Thank you.

Thank you so much for coming. Thank you.

I'm glad that this is helpful. For you. That's so wonderful to hear. And I just want to at the end here thank a DC for coming out and for adding your beautiful artwork to comments for all of us to work with. It's a pleasure.

Thank you so much for having me. Yeah. Thank you. Fun got to create. I also I would also love to get tagged on social media. Anyway, if you decide to remix Yeah, it'd be great to see

DC Do you want to put your social on the chat?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Perfect.

All right. Thank you so much, everyone. What a great way to spend an hour on this Monday. I hope that you have a great rest of your week. Hopefully see you at our next community hours or at one in the future. Have a great rest of your day. Thanks so much. for joining us.