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for admission is rescheduled leading for Thursday, April 4 2024 is said as well as and we'll start with a roll call
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the first item is the approval of the agenda for a motion. So moved. Deploy. in our favor, aye. Thank you. Next minutes for the regular meeting from February 22nd 2024. Call for a motion. Second, any changes coming? Here? None. All in favor? Aye. Yeah, this was February 22 2014 For approved. So next is our public comment on agenda accident. So there will be 234 different comments. Now in any member of the public may comment on any agenda actually, either that is limited to three minutes for individuals or five representatives. To short speaker gonna hear today and turn when is the time people will be able to breathe into commentary a two minute warning because about five this morning will be by means of its own speakers time is up and time. People will just disconnect or let you know that you're trying later there will be opportunity for public comment on matters unrelated to agenda Excellent. Members of the public may sign up in order to address the board either or either public comment period. If you are appearing as a virtually you'll be able to sign up by calling the number specified or by raising your hand identify yourself, but then resume that during public comment. All of a sudden they found who they are able to appear in the room by this is basically how many those who make a physical appearance. A person representative group, let's identify themselves and the group we follow. Please note that speakers may not pull their time nor yield time to another person to call in to sign up to speak during public hearing to be recognized first in order to stay silent than all the others. But raise your hand when your name is called. If you're on the stand. If possible to state your name or clear audible tone. If you are appearing by zoom your name is called please respond clearly and audibly after your microphone. Sandy. Thank you. So do we have any public comment on agenda action items?
So we'll jump right into the agenda action. Okay,
well first action item is housing conditions. This little NERC 2024 public housing plan for the five year capital plan. This is resolution number three to six presenters are Julia fairy he was the resident services manager and love it mock work for Ella to discussion projects. Hello, good
morning and happy Thursday. Sat recommends adoption of Resolution Number Three two to six which authorizes manager the Chief Executive Officer or designee to submit a Detroit housing Commission's fiscal year 2020 for adequate planning and capital planning. So the United States Department
of Housing and Urban Development Thank you.
Whatever we'll discuss in a moment of use and background processes. Sure.
So the plan outlines for DHCP to do over the next year. It includes changes within our a call our administrative plan, and also plans like our threat redevelopment improvements to our portfolio. We had a Advisory Board meeting with the residents they came they will provide a recall information to Congress. The common ceremony received a question for programmatic and they were all in the drinks during the meeting. The whole plan has been posted to the Desi site. We also posted in the Detroit Free Press in the press the Detroit News and the legal news with information telling people where they can go take a look at it. We have a free five day comment period that started the eighth and then on 25th. We have public announcements that share all information to make it more accessible than this year. The video of that presentation is recorded and it's there for anybody wants to see it. But we also added a PowerPoint presentation that is just small overheads of what the changes are because the documents themselves individually was 500 pages and there are three of them. So we wanted people especially lessons if they wanted to just look and say what what are the changes that prison services is doing or real estate management? They've been quickly like just so we thus far we have not gotten any additional comments. We have a phone number and email address where anybody can give us feedback on the changes that we're requesting to do proposing to do. We have not received any additional after the feedback that we got from the residents during the residence Advisory Board meeting that was called on so there's been a lot of changes that are required by HUD that all teachers are to implement. And we needed to make sure that all of our operating documents match those requirements. They're going to impact fluids considered assets, how rent and conditions are conducted. And also they were under the key things for example, they are residents who originally would have been eligible and how would we consider over income, how we would approach those and we wanted to ensure that DHCS processes would not be punitive in any way because it's not their choice. Another item that came up is in our ACB program. Fair, small area of fair market rents. So right now rent is calculated based over the whole entire area. We're looking at individuals that got the reason being that we want to make sure that residents can live in more than just lower income areas because our rent caps are too low. So by calculating those individual areas, which shouldn't be able to get more money for residents to move to different zip codes that better suit their academic needs for their children. Better security and so forth. But there is an aspect where you could be in a zip code that now pays less. Well. We're making sure that you're held harmless. So that will not be once again so it's not punitive, so that even though if you're already in the program, you're already in the house, you're not in danger of being told I will not pay you anymore because this change has been made. So all those changes are proposed in these the plan.
Thank you. The plan also has to be submitted 75 days before the end of our fiscal year. And so that submission has to happen prior to April 14. Yes.
And the question was, Is this limited to those who are in houses or apartments as well?
As long as
you have a voucher for this small area of market as long as you have a voucher eg apply applies to those
people. But for
people who are staying in our developments, it doesn't impact
is that you JSA you saying our developmental
dgac so for example, if you are in shared, it wouldn't apply to share program that people would like to look at it for their own house.
Okay, hold on. Just that we put together in the admissions and continued occupancy plan. That is for the public housing, side. Of the operation, the admin plan. We've modified both of them as roughly prescribed
for low income families,
anybody who's in our programs is going to be covered by the rules that are in the that are coming through so the changes that came we didn't have a say on what they had to be HUD told us, but what we made sure was that our prisons are protected. So you as a resident shouldn't worry that you know what, I'm going to be punished because of these new rules that are coming through. So and we're letting us know that this DHCP is going to proceed this way. And make sure that we protect ourselves.
If we do choose capping 44 zip code or something like that curious how many how many small area of rent. Did you all 44 Are they locked by how many smaller red districts
we added? You go outside of the city as well. We
have five county jurisdiction. So yeah, we're outside the city.
But now we're because we're in the process of joining our survey. We're looking at right now 121 various circles that will cover the outcomes that we'll cover which is wide open uncomplicated.
So each one of those circles have their own wrench. Yes.
Each circle can only have some leeway with where, if because they're labeled as that are right next to each other, but are different share the same zip code. So we have some leeway to how we can adjust that. And we're also allowed to go up to 110% about but to this point that I really should have mentioned is We're still putting everything together. It does not take effect until next year, January. We're just trying to get ahead of things and we're hoping that by later this year, our systems are up so we can fix bugs so that once it becomes effective, we're not still fixing issues and at that point is one of the potential negatives
as a requirement for us to have a study completed in October of this year. Our new performance officer ambling around has been working on that and scaled it to meet internally but the director and team to make sure that that study is there and so we kind of have a understanding of the impact we want to make sure that we've walked through it and then understand when it how we're going to make this happen in yard. So to be in compliance by January of this fiscal year. We added plan addresses that again, this is only for the HCV program, and any questions or comments. So we go yeah,
that's all Yeah. So we actually the question period is really just one more right now. But right now your questions that you put up there and public comment and when we get them is
able to lead to the zip code thing because that's a little confusing. So
that's what people who live in our public housing developments, the ZIP Code program that was just described does not apply. Okay?
It's only it only
applies to the ACD program and voucher holders and as we get closer to implementation, there's going to be guidance that's going to go on all the participants. There's going to be guidance on our website, we're going to make sure that all of our participants and landlords fully understand all the nuances that go with the FM ours. So em right now we're just in the study period holding all the information base together, but we will make sure that all of our participants and landlords are knowledgeable of what the impact will be and how
the program practices. Look
at the board and certainly for the staff as well. There. Is this expand the pot coming from or does this kind of divvied up differently, so if everyone was afraid to sue six, we actually end up with fewer voucher holders because we don't have as as much money because the rates are so much higher or
go both ways, right. So theoretically we could be paying over market because we're taking a wider area right? So like if you and that's my sort of thinking on it that in some places the rent standards are going to move down some are going to move up so burnout affect my thinking about that right? You're
trying to figure out if they're supposed to adapt farms, the resident the voucher holder that's the floor the existing numbers the floor and
therefore so if you don't we're not having that kind of offset right, where, where nothing's moving down, but things may move up, you know, particularly in the short run to discussion
would have will probably be in that probably what they're requiring us to have. The study completed by October 2000 was done before to be implemented in January so they can understand the effect so requiring all public on the voucher side of business to do the study so that they can understand
this is a man of Detroit moved to the expiry fMRI program. Again, another mandate to be honest, the one on
so we have some fast moving neighborhoods where we are, it will look like the rents will be whoa and three years later,
like it's going to require it's going to require that kind of look in terms of comparability all the time. Yeah. The other thing is hotties made so far we we've put in a placeholder to get a little bit of money and help do this transition and pay for some costs. And so we don't know what's going to happen. At this point. But we said you were in line for some anyone.
I mean, my question was not related to the smaller or in that. It's going to be a math question. So I still to you, I should have printed out the plan. The capital menace plan for public housing. Do you remember what the five year span number of looks like?
We don't remember that.
We're so we're but I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't see when we do our five year projection and the capital plan for it. What we do is we take the current funding year which would have been the one we have opened up last year and you say
how much that was?
Well, million 300,040, something like that. We project that across all five years.
So we may look at all 340 and ran at us five or six kept it
flat? Correct? Because I don't know what I'm gonna get here in another month. When we get our letter. I just thought that he reminds
us like what the last couple of years look like is 12 million issues stable, it's tracking.
So I can tell you if I go back about seven or eight years we were running about nine or 10. And then it has tracked up to 12. Whatever our last one was 12 Three, four, I think was long kind of working on. So while our number of units due to demo, this all has kind of taken down a downward turn over the last decade. The appropriation per unit has actually gone up. So we have had a net gain year over year and our ACC funding went out of that if you
take take Parkside out for a second, what's the deferred maintenance currently we project at for our public housing units?
Out there, it's all worth 288 million, not including the inflationary um, right that happened during 2000 and squatting or.
Okay, so current current funding levels if that number did not change, we think it's like 31 years. Yeah,
absolutely. Right. Yeah.
31 years you know, the level of deferred
maintenance costs don't go by right. And if our final status sandwich and either one of those things constantly make that point. Yeah,
absolutely. And then once you kind of read plan
or the old red portion, phase one is Parkside. We're going to do garden view we call it Garden View 200, which will bring in additional housing and public buying Yep. And then also small buildings, which is another 10 to 12 units. But in the meantime, we're still working through phase two, which then comes into digs and forks now because of the Choice Neighborhood Initiative that we are now partnering with city to do. And then there's some work around Smith homes beautification. So there's a lot of things going on, but at the same time,
go broader and in the future. The Netherlands is excellent, you have a plan or are we able to meander, so
we put everything in this plan to have a plan so you move things around, someone comes up with a great deal. We get plant dollars, we can move around so we put every every property that he has and this plant so that we would not be pigeonholed to if the plant changed. We couldn't block it.
Throw us into being back to my original point.
We have a 333 88
million
or a million problem. Yeah, we have $12.3 million dollars, right? Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, it 2023 was when we kind of came up with with the designation and look through the fiscal knees and what was done by Matt and his team along with insurance claims. And then we also looked at what was in the current five year plan. And, you know, it's just not gonna, we're not gonna make it. Different solution yet. We need a solution.
I'll move to approve as submitted capital.
It's in your
sport, sport.
In favor, Aye. Resolution number three, two to six of approved.
Thank you. The next action item is to execute a contract with DMC consultants Inc. for litigation of 22 minutes at Dixon homes. This is DHCP file number h 72. Resolution number three, two to seven. And we have done some default pictures. That will tell you what the condition of those units looks like now, and then we'll go through it after that and after as well. I'm sorry this afternoon. That one's?
Good come on board. Yes. I am here to ask for approval and agree to a contract with dmg consultants for the completion of a big sugar production of point two units at dataops. The contract is being requested will be for $3,095,500 with a duration of 240 calendar days. As was already mentioned, in front of you. You have a PowerPoint that shows the existing conditions. You also have a copy of the solicitation that went out in the visit was received and the translation all in the center of the table. This was solicited this package was solicited. On December 20 2023, we had 64 vendors download the bid packet. There was a pre bid conference and walkthrough held on January 11 2004, where the contractors were able to view all the conditions that all 22 units. We had feedback from in questions so requesting a second lock so a second pre bid war was conducted on January 24 2024. And then bids were due on February 7 20.44. bids were received a sap as determined that DMC Consultants is the lowest responsible bidder in the amount of $3,095,590. Again, this is a vacancy reduction for 22 months.
Thank you our promotions work Alright, any questions?
Anyone touch funding for this will be insurance claims. As you can see there were two fires in there. So So insurance proceeds yellow DCIP.
Insurance main part two,
so currently they total up to about $120,000. Well, after we received the bids, we had executed the contract we then send the bid breakdown back to the adjuster and then get a little bit of a hey, this is what market says versus what you said. And then they kind of give us that difference because we just by I sent them the bid tab we have not asked for the additional yet because we have to kind of ratify the contract as the lowest responsible bidder at this time. And at that point is when they say okay, you know, we agreed you guys did the process correctly. You did it and then they kind of give us service. I assume when you look at the bid prices they're running about 110 to 120 a unit and homes. So they're going to bridge that gap that's historically around here. And I've already had conversation with a button but this is more than 60,000 a unit with two spiders. You can look at the structural damage you need to see that and it was a verbal acknowledgment, but we can't do that until we ratify the contract and we've accepted a bid then we step into that expense.
Can you tell me so I was pleased with a number of initial sort of like downloads I thought that looked pretty good. Got four respondents out of that Asana great yield, but it's not it's pretty typical for us I think like any more insight you can give me where do you think you got dropped out here? Is it a particular kind of work that you're having problems with the general contractors like they just like whatever they they don't have the H back people they don't have the electrical there's the nature of that damage, but any insight to be gleaned on the sort of low yield? So
what we're still seeing is so first of all, yes, I think the number of refinements we're seeing is starting to tick as a year ago, we were seeing one right consistent. So we're starting to see and I'll take in responses. I don't think we're getting seven and maybe for two reasons from the feedback I kind of informally get businesses everywhere. And they find it easier to do business with elsewhere not government contract without government stipulations.
So and
the second thing being the volume of damage and the volume of units in this type of contract was pretty extensive. So I think we were looking for a level of contractor that was above some of the small businesses that we try and promote. So I think it was those two kind of things kind of combined here. I do think we got a pretty good value based off the contract we asked for last month being only 10 versus the ones we got this time there was a little bit of economy of scale across the big tech but as you can see in the pictures that the damage is no less by any means right. Um, but I still think we're still working with procurement a little bit of like, how do we get some of the additional vendors back we are starting to see So bnmc had a lot of work with us seven and 10 years ago kind of getting away and they're starting to return a ton of visiting. So I think between procurement and some of our outreach and capital, we're starting to see people come back and start doing more bids. But if there's one we're doing you know, as much opportunity we can slowly help you do that your question
any day is always interested in
the runaway train that we hope to catch. So there are people specialize in getting into our process. And our processes, our processes, and our requirements are requirements, it pushes out cost, right so we're kind of anchored into this really high cost this if this were you know, federal not Davis Bacon, look at the damage might be a third, right. So and so it goes back to that whole 380 million. If that number came down to 150 million. Now we're talking right? And so it's better to have that flexibility, then we need to be working out a different system. So, you know, if we had no, there's actually not that much staff to do 22 Right. And so if we had five electricians on on staff and we had five members of staff, if we had you know five carpenters on staff, then we will get through this stuff at $40,000 a unit. When we looked at their at their, their their what we paid them even paying them full union wages, environment is yours. And so that's something we decide, are we going to have this on staff, we know we have all of these properties that need to be done. And once you have those people on staff, and they're good people doing good work, then you can move subcontractors ain't your prices All right now we need to provide five more for this one, but we're getting our primary fibers doing everything and then you you particularly want to when you're looking at this is not high rise additions. This townhome it's you know it's a it's a whole thing that would lend itself really really really well to us having a construction company or the stuff that requires day to day or move it outside of the day to day it system and having a much much much broader group of contractors and therefore respondents, right and so whereas we trap you into the system that says if you know how to jump this way and lean that way and get this and put all your bond in place and hit these these requirements, then then you can be a responsible bidder. And those people know that there's only so many of them. And they charge
according to the binding issue that you see people dropping out because they can't post the bond.
We get that question with every single fish. Are you requiring that answer? Yes. So can I say they're specifically dropping out? No. But my guess is yes. And the other thing I think, we see them come in and selves, you know a little bit and that's kind of a way for a small business entity to get into something like this where I can do it. I need a partner in some capacity right.
So so DMC gets in and I don't know that they're going to do exactly this, but it's impossible for them to do all the forms. And they contracted up alone. Now they still have to make sure Davis Bacon is met and alive forever. But But there could be there that spread in there. Who has the weight to carry the job.
I think streaming directly what you guys are saying we were had like 10 units at a high rise we would get some small embarrassing, right but this is being volume and the damage kind of does both of you both.
That's that's part of the issue. And so it's you know, we know, we have so many things that need to be done that we can actually justify and having full time people and said that someone will get the quality of work and so that we could get the quality work right and so it's you know, and and that they would have to work. They can safely put it in wrong but some level of ownership with the repair there's something else but figuring out that structure, figuring out how it goes into a separate country that that better are likely we need to work the back concept and get that out there. Or waiting. That's a lot. Exactly. So we'll see. But that's that's that's the only important mission that we hope to achieve. So you know the questions or comments. All in favor. Thank you resolution number seven.
Action Item number three is approval to enter into a contract to architectural and engineering companies for their architectural engineering services with the architects of the tunnels Camille LLC. This is DHCP file number 8778 was the motion number 3228.
approval to enter into two professional service contracts for architectural and engineering services along with CLM architects, the other with in toto studio, LLC, the total so I'm gonna give you the total numbers and then I'm going to break down on the cap. So total value of the contract and duration will be five years $550,000 per home. The breakdown in that comes in two separate contracts, each with the same terms and value will be set up with a three year based contract worth $250,000 with two individual one year options for $250,000. The request for proposal the RFP was issued on December 6 2023, the review panel so for Western proposals, three proposals were submitted. Our review panel met and conducted their analysis on January 26 2012 folder and the panel recommends contracts people were to see Atlanta architects LLC and in total studio. Under professional service contracts,
they offer a motion for questions. So what what's the architectural services for
architectural engineering services are fully comes out with a copy of the solicitation and proposals in the center of the table. I'm sorry. It's for design specifications, scope of work, anything engineering services we really anything where we need a architect or engineer with a professional license to be able to create drawings, specifications, bid analysis, RFP, RFQ and questions that come in analysis, change order negotiations, justification estimates. Yeah, it's a professional blanket service contract, although we don't call it like a contract.
Professional Service we
can apply is like tailor.
So yes, but the one caveat I would say for this one is, um, we would do something not in our portfolio separately general individual before units within our portfolio,
right. So if we were to purchase it, which
in our portfolio, it would be it'll be a part of once we got through about Yes, we'll get part. Yes, it's every all 1800 whatever units that we actually have public housing, that we're
likely to cover calls
with our typical annual spend on these kind of services,
so it varies a lot. I would say anywhere between 100 to 200, kind of depending on what we're doing, where we're doing it and kind of the value of what we're doing. In the last year, we've done a lot of like site work. And ADA ABA final word compliance for parking lots of ramps, and so we wouldn't have an art to come in and design certified installs. So those would be pretty heavier tents. I try not to use them for stuff that my staff could do. So if it's like a unit turn, that's a reasonable number. Eight to 15 we can generally go in and still fill ourselves we'll bring in something like this but when it gets to be 20 to 32 and larger, that's what I would bring somebody else in so the staff time kind of goes down a little bit and keep them on other things. But it made it really varies year to year kind of a technical aspect of what we're doing
when you said that range was like 100 to 200 or so or at least for the first three years. We're at 83 or so we had a marginal cost savings there by playing by contract and to be clear, are these retainer contracts that roll forward or yes, there. Okay, so some of yours are gonna be low. Some of yours are gonna be high, but we get up to 250,000 and billings over a three year period. So we've got some flex there. I was a little surprised to see that the bump is one and two more than but low less than double per contract unit price per year. What's up with that? Just
future use a future projection. I'm assuming there's going to be some kind of build stuff coming down the way and I think in year three and year four looking at the five year plans on a nice, we're gonna do it some real
tender thing about like the capital plan that sort of needs there. So you're not worried about blowing through that 50. And
normally, we have three architects under contract instead of two. We've got two currently. So I think while you're talking about sin savings, I think there's a little bit of spending saving there. Let's move on to our next six months, we bring out a third but usually we have three architects, two environmental two construction managers and we have the other environmental and construction managers set up and I'm gonna go to architects and shorter and we'll see if there's a need we always had a third so they're
very, very last question is given the capital plan in place, and particularly for choice deals, brand deals, etc. You're going to want to be able to allocate these costs to those projects because you can make preliminary pursue for the housing tax credits. We're gonna want to build allocate the basis right, yeah, so do we have the ability to sign this contract to the nonprofit subsidiary? Why do you see the development work like in those services be assigned those buildings to be allocated to those individual projects or would you have to separate Oregon Excellent, so
you're gonna
say, I'm gonna take my best guess at this because I would want to procurement manager probably to look at it and maybe read a little late weigh in. I would go ahead and say that right off the bat, I'm going to have enough needs where I'm going to use those before we get to the other so they will probably bring in outside specialists to do that work. If there was some as a part of that we can do windows or some sort of upgrade that cat that is in the capital plan. I think at that point, we maybe do that type of work or something along those lines, but with the capital needs, the five year plans and objections I have, I'm probably going to burn through it and I don't think there would be a savings and not going to get you're not sure
I guess I would just recommend that. If you can put it in a contract the ability to assign a contract or out in class to a subsidiary of a house convention, just to protect yourself.
And I would have to you know, ask, you know, either recruitment manager or legal firm Hey, is this this in there? Because I definitely need so that's one of those
has larger ramifications, right. So one of the things that people are constantly working on is particularly if you're doing kind of a tightening to ask some federal on some is if you only spend the federal and soft costs. Are you triggered? On Argos back right and so it's, uh, and so, you know, we're gonna lay out internal counsel and a team of counsel, figure out exactly just given thing where the lines are because this is going to be huge if if somebody comes in Bac pays for and agents assigned to nonprofit but nonprofit hasn't paid what we're about to do. So with that figured
out that's great. I think those are some great
concepts for particular you're looking for services for projecting into the sort of larger capital plan repositioning if you don't want it to the greatest extent possible. You want that flexibility when asked to sign the contract.
Yeah, I'll have no no problems. With our capital needs using a police car. Just want to make sure that we can it's a good thing it's gonna be a good question for the future.
Okay, so any other questions, comments? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Hi. Thank you resolution. Number 32283.
She informational are those right so.
Practice lately is to talk about updates to additional things. Executive
will the financial
information update I have as you've been approved for additional from the reserve funds for a CV that should be in our bank within the next three to five business days are about $1,020,000. So while we're moaning
so we're setting unhealthy services
we were approved for this is just a matter of being positive
and you're also don't come with a skip
skip those eight years return on capital that
just hit one one call with the approval of today's contracts and the execution. We've met our CFP 22 obligation date and it's coming up on May 14. So we've we've achieved one of our goals, but
that's
about it. Larger products still meeting our
spending requirement. So about six to eight weeks before an obligation date comes up. Email right Tom HOD say you Bill, you know they have never missed the death. Right? So we want that.
Right and so, so we run into the CEO, and we say okay, we're going to allocate a bunch to share into a larger project, the planet for that to take three years and so it's like, okay, how do we not miss our dates we kind of added into this reconstruction where we know that we have a plan up front. But to the HVAC now even those two years are only because we don't
have either our controller gets a 60 day red flag when she goes to pay things and I get an email last six weeks out of you are not going to business are you?
Competing with the larger plans
General Counsel's Office Update. Thank you.
Human resources is David Allen.
He's on
can you hear us so, so David, if you wanted to come around, just come down pop your head if you have an update
let's he's gonna
have to log out and log back in. I'm gonna assume that there's not a new update and
Information Technology sharp on not have anything that you know what I have for the board that has any questions. Thank you, thank you
thank you the actual property management
update for addition to what's in your report. Good
morning. Happy Thursday.
Yes, we're currently engaged in our fire inspections. But it looks at how we got the property. We have several skills on track to be ducted. We recently had a visit from the local HUD office to follow up on our repairs of efficiencies, identify inspiring sections and a couple of our sites. So far, so good. Follow up with you on one of the groups here and one at Forest Park digs, the engineer with the local HUD office. A sample of some of the apartments that were expected to make sure that we actually follow through with making those repairs and they determined we need so we still have some more repairs that have been done. We've also scheduled some future inspections we have now working with a vendor to go to our properties to have 1% review of all of our all of our EUCOM like saying you must forgive me for saying that like saying Hold on hold on my humanity here go home. So 100% of our partners that we found even awakened to identify all deficiencies that may have been reported to the commission that may not have been reported as a commission but will have a universe of deficiencies on our cervical breast. Each of those deficiencies is no different than at our site. So we have four visits scheduled in the next couple of weeks. I have to follow up on inspiring inspections. One is at Garden View Estates. One is that to go to the park side, one is that groups homes and one of their forest park games they're going to do is just confirmed that we repaired life threatening deficiency severe deficiencies that were identified in the recent expired inspections. So we were encouraged to hear that one of our scouting sites have scored 87 on fire inspection. So 90 is considered high performance status for an inspection so close. Let us know we're moving in the right direction to get our
thinking. Thank you very much
conditional additional information needed
Sir, can you make the financial question only because it shows up in there but I remember in looking at finance we have a collection race and our property managers
have the percentages on the low
bar 54 On the rare collections by management entity so these are all terrible for the most part, other than premiere, but with some
54 people
I remember it was at a premiere and supreme near screaming continental so I'm sort of checking in on this both of those collection rates are not very good, but although they're better than ours. So I'm just wondering how will we benchmarking, though is in here we were trying to try something new, we're gonna get better performance out of them. That's that's a number in the abstract. Maybe that was better. Than we were doing better than the previous management company was doing. But I don't remember within a year ago, is
it July of 2020.
So we're coming up on a year I'd be interested to like I think we need to revisit this at some point. And so I just don't know how to think about whether or not that experiment has been successful. They're still better than ours, right? We're like turning the corner. Hopefully. I'm not a number but I because those were two new relationships and those stuck out to me as obviously being below the the top performer properties are different understanding that but I guess I would have hoped for better collection rates out of the third party management companies. Maybe they're going through the same sort of cycle that we're doing right now but
they're all doing it their male guinea pig and in a couple places or Continental has really changed their onsite staff
well this was also not clear to me, is this a month of analysis is this like contract analysis. Its fiscal year is this calendar year. It just wasn't clear to me and I just mean nothing just sum up
and then how. So we so we have the operating subsidy that how to translate this per unit monthly rent, right? Is that accurate?
Per unit monthly? Well,
it'd be family
and those subsidies that subsidy number per unit is flat. It's always the same across the board for the temporary portion that changes because tenant rents are paid.
Right and so but in terms of so just kind of translated into private mark, right. So if I look into the Senator is we know this these are babies in the subsidy to the total revenue coming in capital items. What percentage is that? That that that portion that I'm trying to get to is where 60% of the election are we are we get the love 40%.
Effective agency this economic status and so how much of this fortune adds to the revenue
Yeah, I don't have that.
So it's work so let's let's focus on ambitious business model right? If it turns whether fordable collections means the house is on fire, for which is doing a poor job at at that piece, right and so because if the city collected the Senate fortunate portion of our total revenue is a 40%. Then we're collected 60% of that 40% We have this 20% economic vacancy, and you can't run projects that way at all. So So we ended up with a thing where we can't afford to keep things up, which adds to our deferred maintenance was based at capital needs to go up right. So it's so understanding how that collection ties in is our ability to just keep things clean, neat and clean, on targeted right. And that's what we really want to focus on. Like how are these things directly affecting our business of providing quality for our residents. And so, you know, if it was super sick, right, if we, if our lives were mostly at zero, and therefore, they're there, they had very small contributions, then even when we had 10% collection, then we would have noticed, but I don't think that it's the case, not the case. And so So, so we need to know how much we're losing when we don't collect and know what we can't do. Because we did
it sure effective for the next to it. This is kind of showing me some of our self managed numbers versus their product that way and it's so this is kind of the Harrison point to us. This chart, this chart is not breakout. This is just a total portfolio okay I think it's just to me it's always very helpful to both have that designation, the breakdown of us around us but also our third parties doing versus how are we performing internally, like this very much even just a little like, you know, continental VHC or whatever down below just so we can fight or even even breaking the columns into management companies just blocking.
Right? Because we're constantly, hopefully trying to figure out what are the best practices? I can say, Oh, wait, we didn't talk to this person. They don't know why it's work. Or this person, find out why it's
not working. And it's one of the places we can actually work. I'm always struggling to do benchmarking, right. This is no, this is not doing what we actually got right. We're doing
our work number agricole.
That's probably go fast another
thing that we can look back through rental.
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so Florida was done. So whether it's already with housing authorities that have gone through this already or pitfalls are what to look out for. So the Dallas spots to one another.
A while right, and I guess I was reading about externalities. Washington like Seattle area something they were trying to give it to
how much resources and
opportunity
for families
that's the wish funded on our on the rental assistance because I just want to say like, because I feel like I'm bragging about this nice job. Stop. So like thank you. Yeah. Thanks looks good. We've picked up more as a percentage of the overall staffing related
staff has gone up, it has tremendously affected output in particular department, or peak scores are going up. We have a lot of work to do but we are absolutely training
in February. Really good so so we've been writing you guys. Thank you. This is this is we are not even close to the area. Where but February makes me feel bad about like, how many we're doing them on how many was behind. HoloLens is going to take us these times, way better. So thank you.
Thank you, Felicia.
You're taking as well. Absolutely.
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oh, good morning. My name is Michelle. States, September 28, at Walmart and we address my ex row I repair issues before I move in. No worries. So Ducky, ducky becici cleaned out driving he does need to be clean because both issues are fine as well. Now my seven is splitting my medical. I'm going back and forth. For environmental this couple of days go by so at work, I've been harassed, retaliated against, they gave up a stranger keeps my place coming to my place and I do have cameras everywhere and recently two days ago they should have had so close we know you don't have utilities only the last 490 days. They refuse for me to report personal information. They have no banking information. That's another problem and this has been quite some time since I moved in same place. feels something I never went I also have a two year old that I just recently had out my mind and adoption. I finalize on the same day that I sat on September 28 Because it actually be finalized safe and calm inside. Because adoption means fine. It's on my own, but with retaliation that I'm dealing with. Now they break it off and they sign off. I don't understand what it's all about the repair. issues. And so I started graduated from University of Michigan. I have great great health issues. One of the issues. This is not an extraction and this is not well here are several things and we face before I'm here and right now. Anything got a call for you know, I was like I've been you know, so I found a motion yesterday. You know because you know so I went into the left areas every year, but this is what I feel
so great for you so much sounder so what's the process? How do we how do we get into the one that you're investigating? To you need to find out and get
a little bit of digging? Because I believe that Mr. Brown said something to me and to Mr. Beale. I've looked you about our system. I think he was with us until 2011. So you said you just signed a lease with Garden View in September of this test of 2023 in order to translate well, okay, we should talk more about that. So I have a call here to the CBL already sent an email just let's talk about what's going on. For the DTE thing I couldn't figure out I do want to call but I have to tell you I it looks like so it just looked like a strange shot man. Notice I didn't know they said
look like that. Shut off or difference I've noticed is when you have a review of what it means that either you call me chose Shut up or somebody who referred you and was this case somebody else here. It'd be up to this is a way to extend this out that made it seem like somebody else is moving.
So So letter for Miss Brown seems to indicate that someone called but that she but she also indicated that a two attorneys can get access to the information on your behalf. So I am hoping that you all took advantage of that because it's information I can't get. But I will continue to follow up with Mr. Beal and we he's got your information where you live
that we have received leverage right after the meeting with with you or someone who
was here yes perfect
am that I can take our food travels you know why can I do all of it?
Inspection Report. And of course, the problem is it's a city and it's a city or its way up
so we really want to find out for this example of these kind of flags, what's right and dig deeper into the say, is this symptomatic is this really actually merely isolated Rashida was like, or all those
biases is there the problem just, we're gonna change but the problem is that you are in a unit that's not a public housing, property. We don't have we own the home. So the buildings and what's going on, but because we have an ongoing relationship with with Premier management, it gives us a voucher to be able to go ask questions and
so if someone has put out in front, right, and it's a bit of a sponsor, if appliances are are being provided in that in that view, and we allow someone to move in. It's so different about project based vouchers for me the separate nine voucher just slowly
so I don't know what the subsidy is. Right from your side. What would normally happen and whether it's probable cause whatever the landlord tenant law in Michigan says, you move into a unit and we have seven days to tell your owner what's wrong with your unit they're supposed to document so that you're not charged with the back end or anytime during your tenancy. On the voucher side. If you have section eight voucher you would be subject to human rights need every speck in the universe have to pass inspection because only then would you do anything that we issue? That's
correct. Okay. So every time I turn on project based vouchers unit we go in and inspect to make sure we still offer the
correct and we also set every year senior PDU or senior voucher holders only every two years and and even though you set every year you're also allowed were relevant and call and say this is this is how my soldiers wrote they haven't fixed we can call for an inspection in the interim, as well as the sales that we have to work with the landlord and we can actually ultimately innovate
and that's what it is for me. does offer this concept of digging deep right, because understanding garden which more information is garden, probably units, primary base and then Elia type properties. This is some we don't have anything to do. Okay, so, understanding whether, you know, Miss Thurman is an old housing unit. Oh, we really dropped them off a project based unit. And we go, okay, we dropped the ball off or in the light tech units and we say hey, we're definitely sold on maybe doing some bad actions. And we can use this heart to bang them over the head and
then pulling Mischka, right because,
right and so but but understanding that, so we'd love to hear back we're just happy to do it, you know?
Discuss that offline, because I don't want to
know I'm not specifically. But did we find anything on our site, where we're allowing people to go to things that weren't?
Okay. In general, anywhere, right.
Does that make sense to you, man? No.
So it's so. So a project, these kind of mixed finance projects, where we don't own them, but we have some different days. So we'll, we'll that will, we'll say it's a certain size, they may use different types of housing. So there'll be some housing where we effectively those are arches, we're putting them in there and those are the public housing was right and then and then there will be another piece and it all looks the same. There's another piece where they receive ability to have project based vouchers where when you come there, you automatically end up with effectively a section eight certificate, but it's attached to the property as the so they have those things. But then there's the the another part when you see them, particularly when they're just being that is just your traditional low income tax for the housing says that you have an income qualify, but the Housing Committee isn't involved in those specific units at all. So it's a mixture. It's a mixture. And so so we want to find out if you are in one of the units where we have an involvement, so it's that we should have checked and found out what was going on beforehand, or if you haven't been one of those units, where we don't have involved and so everything you're experiencing is really strictly associated with the the, the the owner of the property. Now, that doesn't mean that we're just going to be like Oh, hands off, that's not our priority. It just means a lets us know whether we have failings on our site, or we just need to have additional conversations with that that landlord who wouldn't be directly able to influence but we're able to investigate and have more and indirect and so so that but when you're in these properties, you may not necessarily immediately know which one you're doing because you're submitting a wealth cases anyway, because you have to for even the ones that don't have any type of sectioning associated I was told.
Because I've been told that was the whole nature of their free house, and also affordable. Okay, so I don't know how to really say just about everything, but that's what I was telling. So it sounds
like you're actually probably in just a traditional white tank and so you may not even have the traditional sense of a subsidy. And so we'd only be dealing indirectly, but we want to find out each case by case or their failings on our side, and then we need to be checking it off or do we just need to be advocating? You know, because these people want to
know, so once we delve in a little bit deeper, there are remedies regardless of what what unit what subsidy or not subsidy is tied to your unit. There's still whether it's us or there's a State Housing Finance Agency as well. Someone's got some jurisdiction and oversight that can always intervene on the issue. So we just need to figure all that out. We'll tell you what avenue we can help you proceed.
Thank you so much. Next we have this Gloria is so yes
I'm not at low income housing at work, but my I will get my house December 15. The day I moved in and especially guy came and he was looking for the landlord. And I told him she's up in the air and I was looking at me and he said well don't don't panic because he may be condemned in this house. Or I call the landlord she lives in California. And she said, don't talk to her about this right at home. And I say no, I'm living here. I've written this place you did not let me know that this house may have lead poisoning. So she told me I need to get up. Again December 15. January she was she called me against me because I wanted to find out what was going on with the lead. Every time I scheduled that inspection, she counseled me. So and then she wanted me to clean the window beds and everything. And then if he told me Don't touch those windows because there's a possibility of flailing here. I don't have any baby talks on this ground. I'm here by myself but since I've been the I've been having nose we had a chest pains. She refused to allow me to do the inspection. I ended up getting they end up coming out at the court zone and gave her eight more tickets. So he has covered 18 tickets now. She's not allowing me to get them there and the gentleman next to these told me that he couldn't talk to me because I wasn't the owner of the house. So I'm living here so that makes my house and they didn't do it. They wouldn't do the lead inspection. I just found that I can get it done to a private owner. So I'm going to do that. So and also end up going to court and the just like they swept under the rug. You didn't hear me. They was like you got these many days to get out. She wasn't in court. Her living in California. I think it's unfair for her to live somewhere not common situation, because it doesn't allow her to speak to the gentleman explain herself. So now I'm in the process of having to move and I just moved in here. So I've lost more money. I lost work because she sent me scheduled inspections. And she canceled a total of three inspections, by Miss work three different days, kind of get this taken care of. She won't take any money from me. So I put them on here as well. To make sure that the efficacy can take care of after paying rent she said she doesn't want me sort of just coming here to be up and coming which I think is unfit. You know I think landlords are taken advantage of the situation, our carpet and for me to have to spend all this money to move in the right place and then find out that I had to deal with lead poisoning. Back door. It's falling off the hinges. I asked her to do the basement leap. She told me no. I ended up putting furniture down in the basement big screen TV, this nomadic furniture, stuff and so now you're good at it. And she's she's mad. She's not being held accountable. I think she needs to be held accountable for the things that she's doing. Then also I just found out last week that she could use my address as a resident and she doesn't live here. Isn't that fear? You're not going to find it. Even if I move I'm still gonna find it because we don't speak up. What are the key again in this house? This house is meant to be takes or to me because we don't know what's going on because you keep on this stuff. So in this way. I don't want to keep the move in it's it's a nice house, but it's being covered up by what's
good. Thank you so much as we're in the same vein that we have any connection to so and so but in this scenario, this this gives a larger issue that's that's going on across the country, right where where affordable and has become more and more, you know, unhappy. Right. So where where where do you know how did you find that? And so I'm glad the city's involved with the inspection. And, and the like, isn't the sort of lawyers that that? Well, one of the owners options is to say okay, yes, this is uninhabitable everybody has to get out. Now they have to have been, ideally somebody who will stay on top of it and say, Hey, can you have the right so hopefully there wouldn't be insulin companies is the whole idea. And so, but, you know, we're suited for systems like what's the kind of the best thing we could do connect their resources? So
I was gonna ask a couple of questions. When you were in court was a 36 district kiss me? Is there a property manager who collects your rent from you or did I manage to do the private owner
you send in money through
through like a painting company? Normally there are United Community Housing Coalition normally has been at 36 District Court and people can go speak to people there immediately, and they will try to intercede to prevent eviction, or at least to be able to advocate on tenants behalf
and I it's just me, I do have a notice of exposure. And we they come in and they got
a real problem. We keep it on the radar. I can't just release it. Do we have like, like do our universities or things like that? Because Legal Aid or
Michigan State Legal Aid is also better legal therapy. And there's the court house as well. At the same time, so hold on, just want to see if I can. Yeah, cuz then if that's if they can't handle those people tell you.
You you are do you hold a section eight voucher that you're using? No,
I don't. Yeah,
I'm a private residence.
Your voucher holder. They would have been cited the Yeah, that's what I assume. I just want to add to that issue because they have to be left safe and let's break it
this visit. So inspectors, they can't catch up where they've been trying to get these tickets. And she just not doing it to get a court date January 10. She had them gotten from being so and the mechanisms appointments, she won't allow it. So it's something going on where she's not allowance.
So people are really good at navigating the system. Right. And so it's even even under the nooses. obey the laws is the outside so the house looks, you know, kept up from outside the inside can be as bad as it wants to be because it's not a nuisance and neighbors right and so, so it's anything, it's possible. This person is really great at navigating and as
they've been trying to catch up where for very long time even on a typical day, she's a repeat offender. So she's she's not getting the tickets because they didn't drag him out. So this has been going on for quite a while. And then she's renting the place and not letting the person know that this is going on. So
when management comes into this so I think there's information
for devils 96 441.
So yeah, so they specialize in helping scenarios. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. It looks like Beatrice beers.
No, I'm a resident of a booster home as well as a resident advocacy group site
for them within the county and with the time
I have several questions pertaining to the call to some of the things that you guys said I wanted to know. What was the reserve use for the analogy that were awarded? What is it? What can it be used for what is it?
Oh, I think so. So, pixies get into when we over budget drawers down.
So, what you want to use
for what have you in allocation for him for our operating budget. That amount of money that we use in that operating budget is what we pay our half expenses are in excess subsidy to pay for our participants on our program. What happens is the more subsidy that we pay if we are if we're paying out more than we are receiving her gives us that money back in what they call Foothill reserves. So we've been paying out more hat subsidies money because the hat subsidies are going up the contract rents are going up and because we're overspending what we were allotted, they give us back our Federal Reserve money. So it's not extra money per se that we can do extra stuff with. It's just like a reimbursement of what we have overspent it was a subsidies on behalf of our participants. So
it's like a protection to make sure that this point that was just run out and we go oh, sorry, we ran out of money. We don't have the rent this month, so we pay it.
So normally our rents are capped at 110%. And that's what regulates our money. They base our budget on 110%. But because of the increase we are spending at the max of 120% of the fair market, and because we're going to the top of that payment standard, we're overspending which which is approved by FDA. Yeah, if we can do it. So that's where that money is coming. It's coming from because HUD is saying that we're paying out more subsidy, because we're paying a higher paying because it allows us to keep everyone in their state allows our mountain holders to stay in place. It allows our voucher holders to have more access to be able to live in jurisdictions and counties that they would not otherwise rent qualified. So that's what that was.
Over the last two years. I've been to several wetland advisory boards around board meetings. And I'm just trying to figure out with the last five year plan, a lot of the things that they said were going to happen didn't happen. So how are we going to know that what you got saved for this five year plan is really going to happen? That's my question. That's
a great question.
So the last one out there on this last night, what are your top four?
So thank you. I think that's actually interesting presentation is sort of boring and to the public. This is what didn't we achieve from our five year plan? And why or even our annual plan so we know if if some circumstances change, you know, and and I'm sure if you look back five years, a whole bunch things is gonna go cold, but we went deeper answers to understand what's going on so that you can account for this in the future
because they wouldn't want this era people right. And a lot of people who filled out for us they're including myself, we weren't approved. We're the only they did approve. It was years later on. They're doing the research applications are 2020 to 2020 in 2021 right now, so that's making people who they're back on your right and you're trying to update this. I have like I said I'm already advocates so I have people who email me or come to see me as well as Miss showing to a blank about those things. And I don't know what to tell them
as particularly interesting right because we keep hearing from this is Oh, people aren't filling out their form. They're like, what do they want to hear from the other side? particularly interested so how do we get, you know, you know, whether it's your staff or Cassandra or find somebody to delve into this to say let's look at these examples. What is happening isn't on our side, is it at the state level? Is it at the tenant level? So we can splices on it and get it from the bottom on some things? Because for years, right, well, we heard the board meetings work. I don't know why they performed either. And, and now we have somebody who can actually have some conversations about that. And we can maybe provide some data that we can delve into and present to the board what what did occur, what is occurring and what's on our side and what's not. And so, so, you know, we definitely want to get you connected with with whoever signed the assignment is that okay, so that because this is a I don't see that. So, you know, the board doesn't get into the details operations, but we do get into policy and where operations are what arrived and weigh, then that can become a policy issue that what we want, we want to get them to understand it. So being able to connect in this scenario seems that you can be very valuable for our process, or the communities just added and for making a better resolution. That doesn't sound like something that was a good
time to reach out to revenue services or we'll call down here and no one's answering. It gets hectic. You know, we have seniors as well as we're a family site. So yeah, children. Our soul has been fitted and everything else down there in the homes and yeah, I don't know if we pass the test but we've had over four or five parks on the site. We have one, we have 250 units, which 247 of them are rentable, but over 30% Was you will say about 60 units are vacant. They're taking stuff from vacant units and fixing on houses that need the workflow. Now we sit here and we talk about doing new stuff, but you have books on which I haven't heard you say much about with 60 vacancies, not to mention over half of the units who people are falling through their ceilings, from their bathrooms and everything else. My floors not being good stuff not being painted, as well as what she said about the vents. They're not cleaning up the vents which could cause a fire which could harm someone who had asthma. I have children with asthma, and it's just not right it's not sanitize, sanitize but people who live there and they're going up on right and waterfall right and want to put people out in your line even if it's the union. So now, I just want approval because I have a disability. Just approved for my Social Security. And I'm telling you one on one right? Where you guys are fixing anything. So it's just kind of hate that. Like we bring it there. Sometimes we have the wife events, but that's not fixing the problem in the inside. It's got to constantly keep going up like I said, we have seniors as well as children for this unit, and one park for over two 300 kids.
So what's our method for connecting and communicating so instead residents understand and and we'll be having applicants with good amount of information that we connected in here says that everyone's on the same page, like what's our process?
Traditionally, the past should be and then there's when residents have complaints about their units or whatever else is going on the site. Those those get except for people call to the site property manager office. This was to get logged in and work orders are created and then assigned back out to get us people and then and then those that work gets done. And there's I think we've not been good enough keep seeing afterwards, but when they get closed out and then given any infections and that kind of thing. So I'm
gonna put it simply a resident advocate is a really efficient method right so someone who said, I know 17 stories of
advocates illusion that that advocates the other side of the pool. I'm not just advocating for Bucha home. I'm advocating for every resident of Detroit because
if you were let's just focus on history at this point, but have you actually had a conversation with the company Near Miss Young?
Um, to be honest with you, this is probably the fourth property manager we've had. And to me honestly, I feel like the property manager should come and introduce yourself. We don't know the mistake. We just came back. That's why no, but there was another lady I can't remember but I believe that is her name. Angele. Yes. And so I was having issues with her because that said to Mr. Watson, because my unit was leaking water. From underneath my Cabinet and it messed up a lot of my my stuff in my house. I put in for damage claim. It's been over a year. I still haven't heard anything back over a year. So I'll see why you call this black thing and we just saw a rap board meeting. And you said you want to reach out we're gonna put something together me you and Mr. Bean and your group but I haven't heard. I'm not sure. So I'm just saying me speaking not just for myself, but for the community is like I said as well as the other residents that would you guys property is unfair. When then we are downtown choice for eight to a one. So when a new sentence about it's called. We are being surrounded by beautiful condominiums. We're being surrounded by the draft that is generated come you come and you look at art it looks like an eyesore. That's horrible. We've been here the longest we've we've been here the longest even when they toured out the Douglas site. What Where did those ones go? To heal no anymore. Um, these are just questions and concerns that I want to know. I live in a Bucha since I was three years old, my mom had her own unit. And I moved into new Bucha hall in 2012. So now I'm here to advocate for him. As well as myself. What is going
on? So there's two parts of this right. So certainly, all of the pieces she's talking about, right? How do we dig into this, but also, you know, and is there a lot of community engagement before we start a big Friday, that doesn't communicate has been continued. After is that right? And certainly doesn't continue in the 75 year old place. Right. And so what was our method for engaging with the community, particularly when we know it's easy to relax? With was non-problem I'm excited but nobody thinks of Bruce. There's a nonprofit excited, right and so so you would think that we will step up our our engagement and says, while we're having this process, we have to be talking to everyone letting them know what's going on. And in hearing these things, so it's so that we actually know where we may be lacking and, and, and have answers for so the board, the CEO, and so the
arc is happening, nothing to do when you have one car but then you have other surrounding neighbors come to this park as well. We are a family study. We don't have anything. Well they just gave us something for Christmas. Probably gave each gave a gift or something like that, but ask me how many families were able to sign up for that? Or do you sign up for that? It should be more it should be something else. It's the family side. This is they have the Vision Center and deeds but it's only so much that there's less transportation to get there. Whew, it's only so much so
so thank you. Thank you and thanks. So how do so one. You guys support the idea of Annie? How about exciting community engagement. Our roster of things we want to hear about every month so that we know that these things are being noticed and and and focused on and that and we want to hear the process by which quickly rather than abrogates information that we are engaging with them on a regular basis, understanding more deeply what they experience is and and so that we've come up with solutions right and so, you know, it can be very easy particular in, in non private market real estate to like write my reports are done. But then we're okay. Are we within margin and the like is and not focus on the people part, but that's our goal here, right? And so and so. So how do we have how do we use this as an example, to engage, answer some questions and then broaden that engagement says that this is a regular process that we do and and whether that's that we need engagement person that amongst our large staff, right and so so that we understand what we're going to do, that could be something brought to the board Hey, we actually need two more hires to specifically the gays because then they're in the building with with you and they can just go sit down and just ask right and so how do we do that?
Someone really cares about the people that say you got to don't care. But at the end of the day, like you said, when you talk out you don't you're not coming home. And I'd like to the thing when he said he has to say you know that's because that's how I look at it. Oh, it's just a human. This is this. This is that. We're human beings just like that, but I just feel like we're not being treated like human
beings, and therefore we want to make sure that is changing right now. Right and so by first engaging right here with Miss spears, and use it as a model of engagement that we're going to expand to to our properties. Does that make sense? Commissioners? Yes,
it does make sense. And I want to know your next meeting.
Well, we really haven't been having any meetings, resident advisors what we used to be where the advocates Well, we used to, there was another term that they were using before they were called advocates, because like I said, I've been on board I was the vice president. There's about 13 Michelle being and I still have growing up but right now you know, I have your phone number. Yes, ma'am. Right now, right now.
You know, I believe I met you for the woman
was little but I'm just saying that. I'm always present. Because people come to me like I said, I remember the little girl was handling certain things that we had available to us. That is not many. And you know we talked about building new stuff and new stuff and new stuff new stuff. What about the people that they're now you know, we when you come through that he don't see that's what's new guys money, because they're gonna keep coming in but to be honest, I don't know when the last time they put us on the five year plan to get something done, but we need something bottled down there but it's hazardous. It's it's a lot of hazardous situations that are not speaking about the floors. My daughter is seven she's got several splinters in her feet but slack fall without them. And it's not it's unfair. As well as she might have said about her house being lit are we testing them for that on a regular the soil what what came of that is we don't know You know, they're not bringing these things back up to the residence say, hey, this all is dangerous. Don't let your kids play here. Don't let the kids play over. We have one park so I think it's a lot so maybe it was but some things need to change. And so
could you you know, to the extent that you're able, whether it's in person or on Zoom, be in the next meeting. Yeah. So that you get when we were going to hear how much engagement happened and and and then you're able to say yes, that engagement did happen. Right. And so, so we look forward. Thank you.
And so what will come up my damage point.
So I can't I can't speak to that right that everything has to go into an investigation and understand it. So what I want to make sure to Right.
Exactly what Mr. Watson knows more about it. Because he was in was sent to him from Miss barks or it was sent to him from them. I did maybe buy three planes and they told me that it put it all on one sheet. Okay, so like I said, I lost a lot of things. But hey, this people will do things every day. Like I said, it's not just about me it's about
everyone. So thank you guys.
Thank you very much. So next we have so
I think we're sitting close to them
Oh, we got one. Oh yeah. So.
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what kind of people are really sorry.
I appreciate you guys.
Thank you so much
have your phone number
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Hello, hello.
My name is Elizabeth Cornell. I'm a resident and a Resident Representative. at Parkside, as well as the community health worker friends apart side. I'm providing these comments on behalf of every row, the executive director of friends of Parkside, the friends and Coxhead was started by residents for residents in 1991. I want to express my gratitude to all the Parkside residents who attended today's commissioners meet. Here are some updates on what friends of parks I have accomplished since the last DHCP commissioners meeting. We hosted our weekly Tuesday mango gang for seniors from one to 1:45pm hold our monthly food distribution and provided food boxes for over 141 families, including home delivery for 818 food boxes to seniors pose a special issue of the Parkside community connector highlighting the video Voice Project continue continued the Bright Futures at the school homework program whereby we help children with homework access the access to the community in the computer lab, play time and snacks to monthly community meetings. One was a community gang night and the second community meeting featuring being completed our most recent community tech worker training cohort in the process of starting another one another cohort in May. Late may complete the Parkside Energy Institute C study research project where you have them and at some point we welcome the opportunity to share the results with THC commissioners and staff. In closing, this will be my last fop update as a fop team meter 20 meter member and this member because my business service ends next Monday. I would like to thank the AC commissioners and staff for their support efforts to uplift public housing residents including those of those of the Parkside Thank you. Thank you