hey Gustav stuff. How you doing? I'm doing alright. I'm struggling a lot of the allergies to season.
Oh really? Yeah it is that time of year for sure. Nice. I'm gonna introduce these two shortly when everybody else shows up, but sneak peek. These are our new team members, Katharina and Rebecca. My
congrats. Thank you
they're like I'm not sure if it's like congratulations or I'm so sorry and I hope you're okay. We definitely got them hitting the ground running in a pretty intense way in the last week. Pretty, pretty phenomenal amount of work these two have done in a week. I can't believe you've only been here a week actually. That's kind of wild.
How many? How many are you on the team now?
Depends how wide you consider the team. I mean, the core team is the three of us plus Joe and Shawn and you met Carlos he's now helping more with like Kol strategy. And we're actually going to have a different person who's looked at dedicated marketing lead that he's going to be starting tomorrow if all goes according to plan. So yeah, good little core group but of course there's a bunch of other people on the Thrive team that help in in other ways as needed. For example, Martin Hello Martin.
Like you quickly changed your thank a to Thank ARB there that was great.
Ken can't hear you sir. Yes, knock
that right in there. Hey guys, hey, Gustav Hey, Joe.
I think we're gonna have a pretty limited attendance today. Just given a bunch of people are in Dubai and dealing with weather and stuff. There was a minute there where it was just me and three otter pilots which was, you know, very 2024 by hips for a second. So maybe let's just give it like one or two more minutes to see if anybody else pops up. Joe actually had to give his regrets. He just told us that he's Joe's woken up in his Airbnb floors covered in water. I think you were in the same monsoon, sir. Yeah, unfortunately, Joe is under the weather. Today. He said he was feeling not great when he woke up and now he's feeling full fledged sick. So he's had to give his regrets for for today, but we will. We will all channel our inner Joe for the conversation today. Hey, Krzysztof, how you doing?
Hey, good to see you.
Likewise, I think we're just gonna give it like one more minute just to see if anybody else pops up. But we can get started in just a sec.
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So who here is in Dubai right now?
Going out tomorrow.
Krzysztof tomorrow. And then disruption Joe as well? Pack your wellies. Yeah, it's quite the quite the storm from what I understand. Krzysztof where in the world are you if if you don't mind me asking. We
live in Portugal. Lisbon. I live 10 minutes walk from Daniel's house.
Right where we're at. I remember he mentioned that you guys are in the same hood. That's cool.
Yeah. So we we hang out some from time to time.
sweet love. It seems like all the cool kids are in Lisbon these days.
Yeah, it got really popular after.
I think it was like the first conference. Yeah, but COVID goes to a lot of conferences here. Right. I've been here for like three and a half years now. But it's still like, it seems like the community is still growing. So so like more people coming. Nice. Yeah, it feels like the place to be sooner or later. I'll leave Canadian and venture across the pond coming out with you. Okay, I think we're five minutes after we should probably just jumped in. I think this is probably the majority of who we're going to have here today. I will go ahead and share my screen, sir.
too.
Huh, you can do it brave. Let's go. Alright, to actually open it that will help. Maybe as I am opening the document getting this ready. The very first thing I was going to do was turn the floor over to Katharina and Rebecca to introduce themselves to everybody. Let me just start us recording. So you can introduce yourselves to the whole community.
Can I go first cat
first. Hi, I'm Kat. I just joined as the Thank ARB grants manager. I'm based near Frankfurt, Germany and I just handed in my master's thesis I guess not even two weeks ago I jumped right in. I have a long history of working with Ben and climate communications land. We worked for some First Nations and for Ethelo. We also did some research on blockchain climate adaptations together for the Ethereum Foundation. And yeah, now I'm, I have some project management experience, leading an NGO that does project work in Namibia. And as the Thank ARB grants manager, I'm basically accompanying those grants from start to finish though from reviewing applications to Client Onboarding, implementation, compliance, ensuring that they had milestones and outcomes and then gathering and implementing feedback in the end. Over to you, Rebecca.
Thanks. Yeah, nice to meet you all. My name is Rebecca and I've worn many, many hats in web three, I lead to growth at Zerion once upon a time. I've also done a lot of work more on local currencies. So if you're familiar with like grassroots economics and any of the work that they're doing, bringing local currencies and like web3 alternative economics to IRL communities. That's really kind of up my alley. And I know Ben from work that I did running a civic tech incubator in Oakland. So we did want to Gitcoins, earliest local quadratic funding rounds that was actually with existing organizations in the city. And yeah, right now I'm helping out with just well, the title is program architect, but what that looks like is making sure that we have a proper validation framework in place, making sure that we're thinking through the contribution listings and any of the kind of design an outline of the program and thinking about what metrics you want out of it. So good to be here and I'm excited to hear from you all
sleep. I promised both of them that I would not gush too much about how amazing they are. But I'll just say, a big fan of both of these human beings ever since I first cross paths with Rebecca had been looking for a way to work together. And she has really hit the ground running, working on a bunch of stuff that you'll see some of today. Like the the RFP process that's about to start to, which is created rubric for and all kinds of reward pathways and all kinds of amazing stuff. And Katharina, I first hired right out of college at the recommendation of a professor that spoke very highly of her and this is the fourth time I've hired Katarina now, because she just consent continues to be like a person who I just know will get stuff done and get it done well and has a real attention to detail. So yeah, just totally thrilled to have both of you. Here on the team. Thanks for coming and hanging out. Yeah, that is your introduction to new team members. Alright. So I think we're just gonna jump right in to the agenda. It's a pretty brief one today but with some of the important stuff that we're talking about. So really, we're just going to talk about the RFP launch. What you're gonna get a little sneak peek of we're just about to do the governance posts related to this, but wanted to give everybody an opportunity to see the airtable forms that we've created and just like an opportunity to talk a little bit more about that. We're also going to talk about the deliverables scorecard. Krzysztof, thanks for the nudge on that. Just so you know, we will be doing that every week we'll be doing an update just like this one that you'll see today. And, you know, if you have any thoughts or feedback about how you would like to see that, you know, improved or any sort of additional details or context, you know, definitely always open for feedback on that. And then finally, requests for help. And, you know, as usual, you know, that's just a couple little items at the end. Anything before I just jump right in that anybody wants to raise. going once going twice. Okay, cool. Let's jump in. So the very first thing you'll see here program updates for discussion. There are these three different forms the program, idea application, the project Program Manager application and the program application. And so the idea here is that we are looking for people to apply for different allocation strategies. You know, there's a set of criteria and a rubric that's been created, which you'll basically see, you know, directly in the airtable forum, like all the questions sort of lead into the, into the rubric and we've separated out program managers from the program ideas, because, you know, there are some programs that we know that you know, people have ideas for, but they might not feel that they're the best program manager for it or they're just, you know, things that the you know, the community would like to see but you know, they somebody doesn't necessarily want to lead it themselves. You know, so we have a separate application for managers, you know, basically anybody who, you know, would like to, you know, be involved in running one of these programs that has kind of appropriate experience and qualifications. So, yeah, three different forms, one that's kind of a combination, like if you're applying to run a program yourself, I believe that's the program application form. And then we've got the idea application form in the Program Manager application that are sort of separate pieces. Maybe I'll hand it over to Rebecca just to kind of walk us through this in a little bit more detail.
Yeah, I mean, the only thing here that I would add is the way that these are all fitting together. So the program idea is meant to be like a general interest intake. We're not asking for super detailed questions at that point. So that's kind of our first level filter, and then from there if we need to get new program managers on board to run them, that's when they'll do the program manager application. And if they pause that initial test, then we would ask for more detailed execution plan, budget, etc. And that would be happening in the program application. So hope the names aren't all confusing but they are distinct from each other.
And I shouldn't say the next step on this will be a gov post with the links and a little bit more description of all of this. You know, the timeline just for your FYI is that we will open these, you know, basically starting now and the you know, we're gonna have it open until the end of the month. And then we anticipate it'll take somewhere in the neighborhood of two weeks, to like, you know, go through and have the first batch to bring to you for feedback. Can you share the link to those slides? Yeah, absolutely. They're all linked to right in the agenda, which is pinned in the, in the telegrams for FYI, but I'll also just pull up the links or maybe one of Rebecca Kettering and just kind of pull those out and share them in the thread here as well. I
did not notice that it's been the same document. So sorry, like I didn't read any prior reads. My
apologies. I should have nudged you all just to remind you that that's in there. Just for your for context, like the intention here is that we will continue to update the same slide deck week after week. There's also going to be a like a kind of community resource, or I should say a board resource hub page that we're working on. It's one of the things on cats list in the near future once we get through everything else on our list. But the idea is we're going to basically make sure that every document that you might want to have access to plus all the recordings and all the past agendas from previous meetings are all available to you just like on one page. But for the moment basically you can assume that like whatever is in that agenda that's pinned to the top of the page will be the most up to date, agenda for the meeting and all the pre greets should be in there as well. You know, we could pull those out and share them to really drive attention to them a little bit more directly. If that would be helpful to you clearly didn't communicate that clearly enough to you last week that that would be where to find stuff. That makes sense. Sounds like okay, cool. Yeah, definitely happy to like dive in a little deeper to any of these, if anybody wants to sort of I know, you probably haven't had much chance to like look at it and read it through. You know, always open to feedback and suggestions. Of course, if you think there's things that, you know, we could add or missing, but really we're just trying to get the ball rolling, get this out the door, start getting applications in. You know, I think it's a pretty robust sort of framework that we put together in terms of, you know, the kinds of questions we're asking the need for alignment with strategic objectives, you know, asking for execution plans and budgets, kind of all the things you would anticipate and and, you know, you saw sort of the rubric that we were intending to, to use in a previous meeting so that they sort of tie together. Thank you for that. Cat.
I've got a question that regarding data, so we're where do we, where are we going to reach those, you know, applicants or all those, like how are we going to build an outreach so that we make sure that we actually have some applications
that is great question. Fast forwarding to the requests for help at the end. That's one of the things we're asking for your help is kind of reaching out directly to people that you know, in the community. Joe already has, you know, been having a bunch of conversations with a lot of different folks with a lot of ideas. So, I mean, there's definitely no shortage of like, people with ideas that are about to come our way. There's also going to be like I said, a governance post and a set of social media posts, the Arbitrum foundations that amplify all this stuff for us. You know, but if you have other ideas, definitely open to them. You know, I think,
certainly, because we couldn't we have a list somewhere that lists all the activities that we are going to do to build this outreach so that we can, you know, put some ideas there. I like while it's good to have like no personal connections, we need an organized way. of spreading the word like conferences, different groups alike, and if we have a list, then we can, you know, simply put up ideas on this on this list,
you guys. Yeah, that's a great call. It definitely can do that. I think we can share that too. Probably later this week. You know, it's it's we do have social media rollout plan, like a marketing communications rollout plan, that I'll just add a little bit more meat on the bone and share for further discussion with the group. And yeah, definitely ideas of suggestions about what would be valuable to help to add there would be would be great. For example, conferences. I think it's not something that we've like fully fleshed out in terms of how we can reach out to folks through conferences, so love that idea.
Okay, so why don't I just assume that everybody's gonna give this a read, take a look at these things. We'll share the governance post as soon as it goes live, you know, in the telegram chat, so you'll have the chance to take a look at it there as well. And, you know, any comments or sharing of that, of course, would be much appreciated. Okay, I'll move us to the next slide, which is the report card. And maybe I should actually share my screen on the report card so you can be one second we'll stop presenting. Click on the report card
and then share that page.
Okay,
okay. So can everybody see this? Okay.
Yes. Okay, great.
So you'll see that we went through here and added some specific dates and tried to kind of stick to a green or red methodology for like showing you what's on track or what's still a little bit behind schedule with or intentions. Yellow is like, you know, kind of in process but not yet at a point where we can say that it's kind of completed or close to completed with a with a clear date. So yeah, I'm definitely happy to go through each one of these in detail if you'd like. But, you know, it takes a while just to talk about each one of them. The six DAO workshops, I think this is a pretty critical one for next week. And again, this will come up later in the agenda and under request for help but you know, just a reminder that next week's meeting is actually going to be converted to a DAO Workshop. You know, we're asking you to think of it as not a canceled meeting, but a sort of a strategic planning session. And you know, any help spreading the word to DAO members, or anybody else that you think should be part of the workshop would be great. Yep, I just heard a handle. I didn't see who's Chris, that
I saw this today in the calendar. And they realize that as a delegate, I have no idea what this meeting is, and how to prepare for it. How to you know, should I even be at this meeting? So, in order like if we, if we, if the goal is to get delegates opinion, we need to make sure that there are actual delegates. What I want to avoid something that I like, I pointed it out to Joe several times previously, that at those meetings like usually I was one of the like, there were like two or three delegates at all. And then we told that hey, delegates decided something. So if we want to have it really a delegate, workshop, we need to make sure that the delegates are actually there. I believe that we if we didn't do any reach out yet it will be really a hot a challenging thing to to get those delegates at this call a week from now. So yeah, like we need to set expectations clearly.
That's a really great call a Krzysztof I would say even if we just had the board members there, it would still be time well spent next week. Definitely. We can also create a governance post that's just specific to this and do a bit more of a rollout. You know, and try to you know, directly reach out to delegates definitely open to suggestions, but my two cents is I would suggest that I still think it'll be useful, even if it's just a board, sort of visioning session or kind of a sensemaking session as Joe would call it.
Yeah, but that's why I'm saying that we should really make it clear how do we set the expectations because like, if we set the expectations that this delegate call for ecosystem you know, something, then we should have delegates there like because you know, it will. It will be like you created a board meeting but forgot to tell the board members that they should do that. And then you said you would be saying that, hey, the board decided on something while there was no board members at the meeting. So obviously, if we meet even with the board, then it will be valuable, but if we want to make it for it to be a delegate workshop, for the ecosystem goals, then we need delegates.
fairpoint Do you have any specific suggestions of what's worked well for you in terms of sort of delegate focused events
Direct outreach? Basically, there is no other way of getting delegates in the same place at the same time, rather than actually discussing with delegates. Like will they be able to join and that's the time feed them. Most of them will not join basically, that's my learning from past experiences.
Yeah, I mean, we definitely are doing some of that already. We could definitely do more of it. I'll circle back with gentleman our team and we'll, you know, make sure that we're doing a big push towards it. And I think we should just assume that this is going to be part of a series of these workshops. There. The plan is to do six of them. So maybe we could make the the second one you know, sooner. Rather than later and like really try to lead into finding a time that's gonna work for as many delegates as possible. But I'm hopeful that we'll that we'll get at least some for next week.
Hey, Ben, just a quick note, I don't think you're planning on making any decisions next week is just gathering information and any decisions will be brought back to this board for input right. So it's not like you're gonna be any decision made?
Yeah, yeah. That's a that's a really good call. I mean, it's it's a sense making workshop, not a decision making workshop in that sense. You know, so we're really trying to gauge you know, people's preferences and opinions, more than sort of make any final decisions. Although I mean, it will be important to, you know, sort of what we bring back to this board in terms of recommendations. So, yeah, no, thank you for that, though, Shawn. And appreciate the call and on that. And also worth I don't want to derail us from the conversation but, Krzysztof. You mentioned in the thread that you would like to explore other times for meetings, you know, because you're multiple booked, definitely open to doing that as well. You know, it's it's always a bit of a challenge to find times that work for everybody but, you know, important that this works for as many team members as possible. You know, we it's worth noting that the meeting next week is scheduled for the same time. So hopefully, that's not too much of a challenge for next week for you. But, you know, maybe between now in the meeting two weeks from now, we can, you know, all come to an agreement around sort of a timeline for meetings moving forward, and I'll try to facilitate a process in telegram around
the meeting next week is scheduled actually an hour earlier. It starts an hour earlier, and then an hour earlier is perfect for me. Okay, like this time this hour, I'm booked every week. So like if we could move it an hour earlier as as next week, it will be perfect for me. That's why I actually reached out. Okay,
great. Let's, why don't we just start by introducing that as an idea in the telegram and if we can get it to an agreement from from everybody there that'd be great. Now earlier works for Joe All right, cool. We're a good chunk of the way there already. But you've got stuff we're planning in real time here. Now that works as well. All right, cool. Well, we're good chunk of the way there. Let's I'll touch base with the rest of the board members and see if that works for them, but I believe it'll work on our end as well. Just looking at my calendar real quick. Okay, I'm just gonna quickly roll us through sort of any other key points in the Milestone 1 B deliverable scorecard. So we talked about that regular cadence and board meetings. I mean, we're at one right now. The design approach process and channels for sourcing high impact grants. That is the process that we just talked to you about, you know, in terms of the grant program for managers, funding mechanisms, you know, that's the airtable forms that you're looking at in the process we just described the grant program managers lessman, and assessment performance assessment. Basically, we're going to share more details, you know, on all of this coming out of the sensemaking workshop next week, projects says, you know, there's impact assessment and ongoing impact. We talked about this idea of the grant. Impact index. You know, we will bring that to you next week. We were hoping to have it you know, for today, but just there was a lot of balls in the air at the same time. So just recognizing that that one is in the right right now, although it doesn't necessarily negatively impact our timeline for deliverables because, you know, we're not actually going to be doing those reviews until, you know, at least a few weeks down the road will be kind of the starting point of that. So just wanted to share that with you. On voting, onboarding, onboard and coach pluralist program manager and best practices, we have a tentative date for a program manager coaching session, which would be on the 30th. You know, this is basically the idea is to like, try to help support these programs, you know, be as successful as they possibly can. I think we've talked about this in previous meeting, but just to let you know that we have a tentative date now for kind of office hours to support the potential program managers. I can add one other little piece of context, which is, you know, our intention is to facilitate, you know, as much cross pollination and sharing and coordination between program managers as possible. So we're going to be setting up, you know, a dedicated telegram group as well as kind of ongoing meetings and conversations between the folks who are you know, playing a role in running these programs as part of Thank ARB. You know, so that we can ensure we're not reinventing the wheel that we're sort of sharing learnings, as well as like, you know, sharing information about grantees and things like that, especially as assessments are coming in from one program to be able to make sure that that information is available to program managers and other programs. So stay tuned for more information on that, but this will be the kind of first of a series of those conversations. ratify ecosystem goals for Thank ARB to use to determine grant program objectives. Again, that's kind of flowing out of, you know, the series of meetings that we talked about. We'd like to try to wrap that up and sort of ratify by the 30th. You know, the point that you just made Krzysztof about sort of ensuring that we really have enough delegates involved. You know, maybe we move that date depending on you know, how many delegates were actually able to bring into the mix. But yeah, I mean, definitely, it's mission critical that this is driven by delegates point well taken. At least five delegate reviews for each program and Assessment Rubric, all these things. I'm not gonna read them all out to you, but I mean, basically, that's all tied to the, you know, the stuff that is mentioned earlier on the pitch. You know, so it's, it's work in progress. A ton of work has been done on you know, sort of drafting all these pieces and putting the rubrics together. Again, big shout out to Rebecca for really diving in headfirst, all of that so stay tuned, all in progress. And then just at the bottom here, again, just talking about the milestone when beat programs Gitcoin GG 20 You know, very much coming together all the pieces are in place to start rolling this all out. A lot of work has been done in the last week. There is going to be another update post to a whole bunch of governance posts coming from us in the week ahead. So there's gonna be one just about that as well as one, just about the, the RFP. So yeah, stay tuned. And the proposal around the grant impact index, which ties to the you know, all these different program assessment fields here will also be in front of you for next week. So stay tuned. I heard a hand Joe
just one thing to know on the monthly financial reports, I spoke to Joe last week and said, you know if you're not going to do this fire grant, we really need to contract directly with Dr. coin to be able to do that report and I asked him to go away. Think about what he wanted and come back with a scoping not heard anything yet. So just a reminder that if you guys want us to do that stuff, we'll need to get contracts sorted. And I'd rather do that sooner rather than later then you know, sign something next Monday and be an expect my guys to turn something around one to three days, which won't be plausible.
Gotcha. Yeah, I just, you know, definitely very much on the radar. Joe brought it up with us in our meeting earlier this morning. And we discussed it so we'll definitely be following up with you soon and I'm pretty confident we should be able to figure out the right approach for that by the end of the week. Sounds good.
Yeah. So I got several questions on those things. First one regarding the Gitcoin GG 20 It says that like the stage is accepted I haven't seen anything about it because we discussed it briefly during the call, but I can't see any structure for this program. I don't know who the program manager is. I don't know the goals. I don't know. Like what we'll do. Do we have anything written down on that?
Yeah. Did we share a program proposal with you that had a whole bunch of details the previous call could definitely follow up with with the updated version of all of that for you to take a closer look and
I missed it definitely like I don't know where can I find any like details? What is it exactly that we'll do we're doing here like what are the goals? How can we keep it no comfortable. The same with Grant impact index, but what does it mean that the stages proposal, who is proposing what?
So the grant impact index is a proposal that Joe is putting together which is basically going to outline how through the entire milestone we'll be doing assessments of projects coming out of each of the programs. So basically, it's an outline of how we'll be involving community members directly and doing assessments of work and rewarding them for their time. So is it a program
that goes it's you know, it's put into milestone 1 B programs, it's 100k. And why Joe is doing a program
basically, this is an idea that Joe has helped to formulate, but you know, it's not going to be Rondon operated by Joe. It's, you know, like many of the other programs. You know, there's ideas that you know, that Joe's played a role in helping to shape but our intention is to have, you know, independent program managers for all the different programs that were running. That's why you saw in the airtable, those sort of ideas separated from the program managers, and you'll have visibility and input in all of these programs, including that one, you know, so, in terms of the proposal stage, it just means that we're drafting the proposal to bring to you for discussion, the accepted, we did ask for feedback, and any concern or opposition at the meeting where we discussed GG 20. And, you know, based on that meeting, we took that as a lack of any veto of the program moving forward. So, that's been our operating assumption based on on the previous discussion, a couple of calls ago.
So I probably missed that call. I'm not sure but like i If I could read anything about it and comment on it. Then if we go upward in this table, could you repeat like what does it mean that things are like so here for example, we get this every program will receive a pricing framework review, and we've got this x in April, what does it mean?
So basically, what that means is that we've created the infrastructure that we just shared in that airtable structure, which basically lays out the foundation for how we're going to do the reviews and provide feedback. Definitely, we can provide more information about the sort of details of exactly how that's going to roll out. But the long story short of it is I can tell you right now that basically we're taking in all those proposals through air table, we will have a group of reviewers who are going to be assessing these projects. And then we'll be providing the feedback that came from those assessments to the program proposal writers, as well as hosting those office hours style meetings that we discussed earlier, to sort of help provide that feedback. So that's basically what that x represents is that you know that we've got a plan in place and that it's being rolled out to achieve that goal.
But correctly, that means basically that you like you know what you want to do with this. It's not that we have something written down or
right no, there is there is a bunch of stuff written down and that's going to be in the governance posts that I mentioned. Maybe the better way for this to work, though. And I mean, this is the first week we're sort of rolling out the report card in this form. The color coding is we shouldn't make anything green until we actually have the written thing for you to see. Yes, I think that's really good feedback. You know, definitely the governance post will serve as exactly what you just described as a sort of written thing that you can review and comment on. So why don't we just take that as a note for ourselves? Going into next week that will not set anything to green until you have a written formal sort of document in front of you?
Yeah, amazing. I love that. And all the like, I know that we had this spreadsheet probably two weeks ago or something like that and like check this morning that I was the only one who actually filled it in with the previous previous program assessment. So what happened with that?
I mean, really, we were just looking for input from board members if they wanted to provide it, it was more informational is just kind of this is a sense of the rubric that we intend to use in some form. You know, so definitely really appreciated the effort that you put into it. It wasn't a kind of a hard requirement that every board member fill it out. And, you know, the it's not like we're making decisions based on the input we got from board members. It's not like we're saying the board requested that was for your information and sort of any feedback that you've had on the rubric itself.
Okay, but but like what I would point out is like that spend some time you know, doing that took me probably an hour to you know, remind myself on what wallet were those programs, and I provided some feedback on telegram and I got a feeling that nothing happened with it. Like, basically, I reached out to void. So, you know, if you want me to do stuff in the future, we need to make sure that you act on the things that we provide in the meantime, yes, that's being less if we don't do it. I
totally hear you on that. And I can tell you that we definitely did take your feedback into account and found it very helpful and useful. Apologies if that wasn't communicated clearly enough to you. But amongst the various things that you know, we've handed off to the team members was like feedback that we've gotten from the board on basically anything that we've asked for feedback. So I'm pretty constantly pulling screenshots out of the Governance Forum and sharing them on our internal team slack for people's awareness and discussion. could definitely surface that a little bit more just to like, like, you know, how, you know, sort of how your feedback has informed the work that we're doing moving forward. But yeah, please don't feel like you're just writing stuff and it's going nowhere. That's,
I would, so like, one of the feedbacks that they gave you is that basically we had no information that to actually assess it properly. So I would expect that to be taken into account in the future. Anyway, if we can go up in this table. Sure. What does it mean that like the, so we have this established? Again, there is a establish and 10 Confirm key success metrics anyway. We were not here design approach, process and channels, and we've got grant programs grant program managers funding mechanism, and there is this today's date in this table. What does it mean?
So that is the airtable forms that we shared at the beginning of the call, that basically as of today, we have a process for identifying grant programs, funding mechanisms and grant program managers which were those basically those three different airtable forms that we share. And
let me that, because like, I don't know if this is finished, or like, what does this date here means and what does the X in the next? So like? I don't know how to evaluate this table. That's my feedback. So basically, I would like to understand whether this is actually wrapped up and we can consider it finished or is there something that you are supposed to do next week, or next month? Is it like what is the goal
so the basically what we did was we took the x's which are just a reflection that there's an intention for a piece of this work to roll out with within that month. We made things green if our feeling was that they were completed and ready to share with the public. Based on the conversation we just had definitely we can hold off on making anything green until we have the formal write up of the work for you to look at not just the you know, the form itself, but the governance post that goes along with it. And the date is just trying to give you a bit more information than just a month like we're trying to say, you know, this is when it's scheduled for or this is when it's rolling out. Shawn, I see Yeah.
So he'd been interested process suggestion. So we're in April, and we've got some of these things that are already in green. It might make more sense as at the end of the month, just to quickly go back and say this will happen in in in April. And here's the supporting documents and here's why this is great. Does that make
sense? Yep. Yeah, that makes sense to me. I mean, basically, this is all really just for the sake of trying to keep the board and the community informed about sort of the detail level of what we're doing. You know, so all suggestions and feedback are very much welcome, you know, to the process and we're trying to make it sort of as bite sized in sort of understandable as possible without being kind of overwhelming. So trying to find that balance will definitely be the ongoing conversation.
And I think I might be wrong, but I think your objective is just to say, hey, here's the format that we're going to be using, you know, what changes do we need to make to this format so that the board can quickly consume this in like four minutes or prereading and just get a sense of where we are and they have the ability to dig into any component that they want more information on right. So are is your objective to go through this in detail today?
No, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, definitely happy to go into more detail about any of the items if people want more information, but I just thinking this through out loud with the group I think probably what would make sense is for us to just link out directly to each of the related governance posts or documents that relate to each item in the report card so that it's, you know, 100% clear exactly what each task is and what the sort of, you know, checking off mandate means,
from my perspective, like how I see it is that today you provided some update, but it's not finished yet. We are waiting still for some things from you. That's like why I'm not fully understanding why it's green and like because how I understand it, it's been completed this week.
That that that is our intention that these things aren't completed that I mean, I guess what you're saying is the Gov post is not completed, which is somewhat different than the task that was green, which was like, did we actually create the form did we actually, you know, do the work that was required to actually get this.
So like, from my perspective, if we look into it as that is the design approach, process and channels for sourcing high impact grants in scope of grant programs, it's not done yet. Like what I see is a table form. This is not a process.
Okay? I mean, we might we might be just kind of debating semantics at this point. But I know
the semantics, you know, we haven't been the in the previous things like when I expect framework to be created. And I want to make it clear that for me, this air table is not like a process. If we were to create a framework we need to process that this form is just a part of Gotcha.
Okay. So I mean, maybe what we could have done in terms of what you actually see on the report card, is have one item that specifically says the process outline document and another one that says the form. We're not just talking. So generally, the deliverable but more specifically about each pieces. Yeah, I just
want to make it clear that like, the reason why I'm picking on this is not I don't want to be, you know, just this nuisance. I just want to make sure that that I can help you to actually accomplish this framework at the end. So I'm checking whether we have planned all the things that at the end, we end up with a framework with a processes with processes that we can actually fund with more money than we funded right now. So what I'm saying is simply if we finish with that, we'll have right now, it won't be enough. From my perspective.
I think that's totally fair and actually very productive and helpful feedback. So, you know, please don't please don't take any of my reaction is anything other than appreciating the constructive feedback that it definitely is appreciated?
Yeah. And Krzysztof, I think you're you're absolutely right. And Ben, there is additional detail that we need to add to that so that we can add the structure and then Krzysztof to your point, then you can react and say, Is this sufficient or not? Because I think what you see right now is you just can't even make that judgment. So let's add those details to this, Ben. And then I would suggest again, at the end of each month, say here's the results and then we get the board's sign off to say good or not good, right or not quite fair enough. And I mean, we're good thing is like we do have, this is our first month. We're gonna be doing this each month. So Krzysztof. It should not be that. You see things that are off track at the very end of the season. I mean, you're going to be able to see the progress as we make through this as we go through this entire season. So Ben, thanks for that. Yeah.
I feel like it's steps in the right direction. And the the feedback we got is exactly what I was hoping we'd get out of the discussion today. Because it gives us some clarity, but sort of how to make this work best for everybody involved. And, and frankly, I totally agree as you're asking that it's sometimes you're a little too close to something to be able to see it in perspective. So like hearing how it's landed with you, it helps us understand, you know, sort of where this needs to be. So yeah, much appreciated. Probably should move on to the next item unless there's any other specific points in here that sort of less structural but just like any actual questions about the the items that you see on the report card, definitely happy to dive into any of those or we could move on to the final point which is just the requests for support from the board. going once going twice, okay, I'm gonna go back to sharing the
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okay, I forgot to finish the sentence there. will be replaced with a workshop was the word that was missing there. Sorry about that. Just imagine the word workshop is there. Until
So, yeah, I mean, basically the two things we're requesting help for next week are or this week between this week and next week, are helping to spread the word about the RFP process and again, we'll share the link to the forum posts as soon as that goes live. And in terms of next week's call, just a reminder that we're doing the workshop instead of the call. And I guess we're also requesting that you help reach out to anybody that you think, you know, shouldn't be part of that call. And one of the things that you requested from us was that we provide a detailed plan of how we're doing outreach for those workshops. So definitely we'll share that as well this week so that you can join in in helping us put together a strategy for how to ensure they're as effective as possible. Yes, Krzysztof?
Yeah. So one of the reasons, again, one of the reasons why I want this list of ideas for spreading the word is that like, if you are building a framework, building the pipeline is like very important part of this framework. So I would like to make sure that we have a design in the framework, like what are the things that one should do when running such a program, that that these are the things that we'll do, again, if we have, you know, if we continue with next year, these are the things that we'll do. It's not like we are not, you know, counting on lag that I don't know, Shawn will reach someone and like, this could be an action plan that each of us is actually using their own private channels. But we have a list of things to do in order to build this pipeline.
Fabulous. Yeah, that sounds great. I totally agree. Our intention is to templatized everything we're doing to make it scalable, you know, so you're, you're just watching us build in public as we do it all together. But you know, definitely the intention is that you will see everything that we're doing in a templatable and repeatable form. You know, with that goal very much in mind. So, yeah, the point well taken, definitely agree. Okay, well, that is the last slide for you guys this week. Definitely. If there's anything else you want to talk about. We do have 10 minutes left on the time that was scheduled, but you know, we could all get 10 minutes back if you'd like. A nice little change from from the usual cadence and pace of things. Okay, well, thank you all so much for your time, very much appreciated, especially if you're, you know, up to your ankles in water somewhere right now. You know, please do have a great time at the conference in Dubai and travel safe and and all that good stuff and look forward to talking to you on telegram and then again next week at the workshop. So stay tuned for all the things that we just discussed. Definitely will follow up shortly with links to at least a couple of those core documents that we were brought up today.
