Well, I have to admit, you know, the early years of doing this work as a counselor, you know, there were moments where I certainly felt like, oh, boy, is this working, you know, if a student would be dishonest or lie to us, oh, goodness, we're just trying to help them and they're, they're being this way, and you could get really upset with the person, I think the thing that probably changed my mindset a little bit, was when I did really start to understand the the breadth of the situation for the child, you know, kind of like what I was talking about earlier, in this discussion that if I can move away from blaming the child, seeing them as somehow some broken individual and start to understand they're a human being embedded in a family that's embedded in a system. And certainly they have choices to make in that. However, there's so many other pieces to this. Now I can see this young person as a human being doing their best with the tools that they have. And it's kind of the old version, Syrian, unconditional positive regard. And I find that if I can get to that place with a client, which I shouldn't have to try too hard, right. That's what our that's what we're trained to do. But I do think in the addictions field, I think of all of them that one does kind of push the button sometimes like, Okay, can I really, unconditionally accepting of this person. And I think when you get to that spot, and you just are, it is so rewarding, because in a recovery, high school, I think that first word, recovery, you are working with people who are trying one day at a time to work through this. And of course, they're going to have setbacks, and of course, they're going to fall back into old behaviors. But when you work with them every single day, you also can look at it and see, Wow, look how far they've come. And I feel like that's one thing in our profession, we, we sometimes think we always have the opportunity to do it. If we work with a client long enough. I think sometimes we don't get to work with clients long enough or frequently enough to see that growth. And, you know, to set the scene in a school, you see your clients every single day. And I think in school counseling, we usually have so many clients assigned to us. We don't get to know very many of them. And the ones that we get to know it's only because maybe they're having some big issues all the time. I think in a recovery, high school average size of 30. You get to school every day, and you do a check in group with every one of those kids and for the ones that stay six months, which is the app The length of stay on up to one or two years, you watch them grow up as, as children into, you know, young adults or older adolescents. And you start to realize, okay, this is who this person was on day one. And look at how far they've come look at how they've gotten through that challenge. Look at what they're doing. It's so rewarding. I, I look back, and I worked in that recovery High School for nine years. And I said it at the time. And I say it today. I felt every single day, I saw people grow. And I felt like that school, in my own work was making a huge contribution. And I, you know, I think that's difficult to say about many things. And I feel like that was true every day. And I tell people all the time, as a counselor, there is no more rewarding place to work, the math. It