less noise more. Today's guest is Ryan Estes, the co founder of podcast booking agency, Kid caster, Ryan owned a media and marketing agency for 10 years. And for eight of those, he hosted talk launch one of iTunes top 100 podcasts, he reported more than 380 views and had more than a quarter of a million downloads. So Ryan knows podcasting. And we're gonna find out about his journey today kind of met through online dating. Yeah,