Okay, well, thank you for joining us. And this is participatory, so everyone's equally involved in this process. So the mission of the empathy Center, I'd sent that out in the email is to build a culture of empathy, which is really to for nurturing fostering deep listening and bringing together people bridging social, political and personal divides. And we to model the practice for using this empathy circle practice process, which I find is the best first step gateway practice for empathy, building skills and listening skills. So it's a chance for everyone to be able to express themselves fully, freely say whatever's on your mind, there's no nothing's off the table here. Everyone gets her into their satisfaction. And I just it has a lot of other many other positive benefits, which I hope we'll get to experience here. And so in the process, hopefully, you had a chance to see how the process works, the instructions for anyone watching this or will be down in the description area. And the process is we're going to have a topic, which I'm going to put into the chat here, which is what is your vision for developing a retreat center at 1964 Los Pinos Road, Santa Barbara, or whatever's on your mind, you know, if there's anything that feels you feel energetic about, feel free to talk about that, we're going to have four minute turns, and I'll keep time. And if your time is up values hold up a little something like this, you know, time, at that point, you just kind of finish what you're saying, get a final empathic reflection. And then it'll become the turn of this listener to become the speaker. So in this process that we have our topic, eel, as the speaker you select someone to speak to you share an idea to your listener is going to reflect back their understanding of what you've said you so check, did they really understand what I'm saying? If they did you continue with what you're saying? If you don't feel I really understood you, you can just say it again. In other words, until you feel heard, and understood to your satisfaction, it's based on active listening or empathic listening. So we're doing it in a group setting. So with that, once one So as the listener, once the speaker feels heard to their satisfaction, their time is up, then you select your listener, then you speak. And we just go around for the time a lot. And I think you all saw the instructions, hopefully, that I'd sent out for how to do this. So we can just dive right in, and whoever likes to start, I'll be the first listener to model it. And you have four minutes to talk about, whatever, whatever your vision is for the center. And remember to pause periodically, so the listener can reflect back. So who'd like to start and speak to me about whatever's your thoughts are?