All right, we got to do this totally geeky thing. Turn on your camera so I can see all the humanoids out there. It's so nice
Hi everybody. I did a
I did my second live event wonderful last week in Sedona which is so fun. I do enjoy these email and that these email these web things but boys a nice to be with live people. So anyway, welcome welcome back. My dear friend Joe has been helping me out next week. I'm actually in California, Jeffrey Stevens, who I think is actually a really gifted instructor meditation instructor is going to be helping me out so he'll be here on Monday, because I am going next week. A couple things coming up Wednesday webinar for your nightclubbers. This one's on stage five Dream Yoga, which is one of the most I think compelling of the stages and again, this is a 230 Mountain Standard Time. It's all recorded. We'll post it hopefully within 48 hours after we record it. So it's on stage five of Dream Yoga, which is working to transform your sense of identity, which ties into a bunch of really interesting topics. So there's what's called Pure illusory form, little bit connected to what's called seeker outlook and the practice of generation stage. So it's one of these really interesting stages of Dream Yoga. That has a lot of applications and iterations. Thursday this week is the q&a and the book study group. Like if you're kind of tuning into that, that's not going to be every single week. So the book study group, we did it on Thursday. We're gonna skip this Thursday because we're doing the q&a. And then next week, I have to figure out what to do. I might be able to do it on Wednesday. I don't think I can do about 30 seconds. I'm flying back in time for the deep dive retreat program. So those of you who are attending that event, this is the second installation coming in that this weekend but the following weekend, so there's a lot going on. Also, I talked to my dear friend Bruce Tift is a really brilliant psychologist, longtime student of the meditative Buddhist tradition wrote this book I refined a lot called already free. What does it mean psychotherapy on the path of liberation. So book, Bruce agreed to do an interview with me so he's coming up. They got a couple other really cool people on the deck on deck so to speak. I asked Alyssa to post the two, only two retreats I have let her live in December and then excuse me then I enter my writing and research phase, which is usually January through like may where I'm not doing a whole lot. Associate there's these two links to the two remaining live events. I have the deep nature mind practice, week long retreat and then we have a few spots left in the Silent Retreat. So if you want information on that, feel free to ping me on that. Happy to tell you more of it. The link should tell you a time. So today what I thought we would do is if you're new to these Monday night sessions, we started this I don't know quite a few months ago. What we do or what I've been doing with the help of some really gifted people like Genesis wrenches JP Stevens. Joe parent Cooley, and I've got a couple other really wonderful people coming in to help because this is a great way to cross pollinate with other instructors that
may not be as informed as perhaps I am with the actual nocturnal stuff. So I can't really draw there isn't a huge pool of people. I can draw on, I have to kind of carry that load, which is great. But there are people that I can draw on to help with the meditative end. And so the general charter of what we're doing here, just to reiterate, is to introduce you to the basic infrastructure meditations to show you all the different types of practices there are introduced. So without skimming, that's been a little bit of let's say it's a problem, but it's one of the challenges of the Tibetan deal. So Dream Yoga, just so we can contextualize it within nightclub. Dream Yoga is specifically a Tibetan tantric practice. And it is part of a vast, rich array of different meditations and technologies, so to speak, spiritual technologies. And so the charter behind doing the meditation thing is one of the things that really distinguishes Dream Yoga from lucid dreaming, is that lucid dreaming has no overt meditative practices at all. Not it's not part of the lucid dreaming deal. In Dream Yoga, meditation is core and the logic behind it. And then the soul tie into what we're doing at least Monday nights, is to several things. One is to introduce you during the day. Two dimensions of mind that are correlative to the subtleties of the mind that reveal when we sleep and dream that's one of the main reasons were not lucid to the dream state, let alone the deep dreamless state which constitutes sleep yoga. Main reason one of the main reasons is were non lucid to these very subtle dimensions during the day. What is found now was found that this could be a one set of death also applies to dream. What is not found now was not found them so one of the main reasons for meditation and this is why a number of studies you know this by now have shown the meditators have more lucid dreams. Mind of a meditation master all their dreams are lucid and it makes total sense. So we introduce subtle dimensions of mind during the day so that we can become familiar with them and then recognize them at night. And the second reason is that, as we also have talked about earlier, is that another colossal reason we're not lucid to the contents of our mind when we dream. It was because we're not listening to the contents of mind during the day we're always lost in thought we're always getting swept away and sucked into discursive thinking. And every single time we do that every single time we capitulate to that which is our default mode. Whether we know it or not. We're practicing that lucidity. So no doubt. We're now lucid to our mind during date. We're going to be now listen to our mind at night. And so absolutely positively over decades. Of doing this for sure. The more I practice, the more success I have with lucidity. And then when I go into retreats to do extended, really long term retreats. absolutely positively direct correlation between the amount of meditation I do and the onset of lucidity. So just to reframe into your reiterate why we're doing this track within nine school is because this is in my estimation, the core infrastructure practice. Your proficiency here, absolutely, positively lead to proficiency in the dream arena. And so I'm going to do a little bit of riff. But today what I want to talk about are the, the four immeasurables using a liturgy that I was trained in. So I'm going to introduce you to this kind of hybridization of contemplative practice. In other words, because it is a liturgy it's a form of contemplation, but it's also very definitely called a meditation proper meta Maitri designed to basically use the state's invoke to this contemplation of this liturgy, as a way to open our hearts and minds because another often forgotten or neglected aspect of meditation proper, is it's not just a cognitive cerebral event. It's just as much an emotional effect of quality as you open your mind in meditation. You're literally opening your heart. Same word in both Sanskrit and Pali for mind and heart, cheetah.
But before we do that, because this practice, the session is about meditation. Let's do it for a bit. Let's just settle and I usually practice with my eyes open but because I'm looking directly at a screen it is a tad bit distracting to me. And so what we can do with just a beat, briefest instruction
is just touch into our
bodies. contacting our chair contacting the earth, mindfulness of body.
For those of you who
may be new to this practice, I doubt there are too many but if you are the first number of Monday night sessions that we did in this track, were all about this and also, very early webinars almost Geez. Over two and a half years ago, we also wrapped I also read a lot about the actual techniques, so I'm not going to reiterate that so much now. there for the next few minutes in silence.
can connect to body and breath
as a way to stabilize center gather the mind
Perhaps one thing I could enter Jack as both a preparatory
exercise for meditation and an augmentation of the power of breath is to say just a little bit about the way we can actually work with breathing. Those of you who have been listening to my two most recent interviews both with Charlie Morley and Amanda Morley same last name totally unrelated.
Both live in the UK and
with both these wonderful people, we spent quite a bit of time talking about the power of breathing
so very often now when I'm giving instruction, I do a lot of preparatory breath work which I can share with you now that sometimes I engage and also to slow myself down but the brakes, speedy discursive mind it's very, very interesting. I think James Nestorian his book breath, argues that 90% of us are breathing improperly, much too rapid, much too shallow.
90%.
At least in one account, we are today breathing take this number. Out. As a population, we are breathing 70% faster than we were in the 1920s 100 years ago. We were breathing 70% slower than we are now most people
today breathe around 15 to 20 breaths per minute
we'd like to get that number way down into what both the Heart Math Institute
and also other
interesting organizations today working with breath work in particular resonant or coherent breathing.
Talk about is the ideal respiration being around 5.5 to six seconds per inhalation per exhalation. And so we can do this together and see if it helps you I will guide you through this and see how it resonates with you or not.
So I will be saying breathing in and then counting. I simply invite you to follow along and we will slowly lengthen and stretch our respiratory capabilities.
So breathing in, two, three. Breathing out to three breathing and to be breathing out. Two Three breathing and 234 breathing out to 234 reading and 234 reading out too. Be or reading and to be or breathing out to the or breathing em 2345 breathing out to be more breathing and to three or by breathing out too to be four,
five and you can try this with a mental counting or just pressing on your fingers for the next few minutes.
And perhaps it goes without saying this is diaphragmatic or belly breathing.
Not chest breathing belly breathing
babies like babies breathe.
Parenthetically if you wrestling with insomnia. This may be a very interesting kind of unwinding on winning practice you can do in the middle of the night when you awaken and can't settle back down
in a certain real way, it almost tricks you into meditation.
If you haven't noticed it already, you may in fact become aware of the intimate connection between respiration and thoughts velocity and frequency when mind is really racing. Respiration tends to be short, quick, choppy and shallow. On the mind settles, respiration becomes correspondingly shorter deeper.
I'm sorry slower, deeper
so because of this kind of bidirectionality you can use
breath to work with mind in a certain real way.
This is the exercise of lucid breathing,
bringing
mindfulness and awareness to processes that are usually utterly
automatic, not lucid. Breathing. Certain Way
literally remedial work retraining the way we
breathe
so like I mentioned some days, especially in my evening practices when my mind tends to be more windy and speedy. I will often start these days with about five minutes of this type of coherent or resonant breathing. Then I release it all in transition to basic sitting meditation basic mindfulness
which we can do now. So when I do
the practice of metta Maitri Sanskrit
matter in Pali
always start this contemplation meditation with this type of centralizing, gathering stabilizing practice, this is under the kind of general narrative of all these practices transcend, but include mindfulness that we never really leave it behind. It's always there and in fact, you may have already discovered this. That is you learn these new additional practices, they help to augment your understanding, and practice of mindfulness itself. So we actually can strengthen our mindfulness by transcending it. Because while all these different practices we are introducing you to are in fact targeting certain dimensions frequencies of the mind and heart they are, in fact, all facets of the same mind at heart and therefore, yes, we can centrifuge them. Out to exercise certain frequencies or bandwidths. But fundamentally, they are all under this general umbrella rubric of mind itself. And therefore should be no surprise that is we engage in these practices expand and transcend we actually augment our understanding of all the other practices, their reciprocity practices, they bootstrap each other. And so that's another reason why it's helpful to be introduced to these other practices. Because they really do work. To support each other.
And so
the practice of metta by tree is there's a great deal of literature on this. Sharon Salzberg the Insight Meditation people riff on this a ton. There are so many different ways to work with this. I will share with you the approach that I was trained in. And then if those of you who are listening, have ways to augment your understanding, want to make some offerings to the rest of the group like this is the way I did it. More than welcome when we have our little q&a to make these offerings to the groups like oh, you might want to consider doing this and this and this. So the narrative of better Maitri does two things like I mentioned one is it cultivates a little bit more the affective component, the emotional component meditation, so it doesn't just become this sterile, aseptic cerebral thing, kind of mental gymnastics. And secondly, it's in harmony with there's also this narrative that I refine a lot my favorite definition of meditation is habituation to openness. These factors practice is really all about continuing to open the aperture of our minds. You can even see the aperture therefore, even if our hearts just becoming bigger, bigger, bigger, more open more open. And so there's a wonderful, straightforward logic with this practice that starts it's a fourfold very simple liturgy, the four are called the four and measurables sometimes also called the Four infinite minds, the four limitless ones before Brahma Vihara is for divine abodes, again, there's this is a large body of practices. But they are all follow a particular pattern of starting small or smaller and getting bigger which is also central to the whole Tibetan approach of working with Laura called the Yana as the vehicle so the the so called Kenyatta the narrow vehicle, starts with yourself Mahayana greater vehicle expands to others, Adrianna indestructable, vehicle Tantra everything not only all beings, but everything is brought to bear. And so you will find this particular narrative of opening to be critical to somebody different vehicles paths, vegetative strategies altogether. And so this practice starts with ourselves, where we want to mentally learn how to make friends with ourselves to turn the Mind into An Ally, instead of an enemy to really learn how to dare we say love our mind, right? And I often say this these days that especially the Buddhist tradition, in my estimation, doesn't talk enough about this four letter word love. Yes, we use beautiful terms like bodhichitta and Karuna like but it seems to me a little bit more radical proclamation of love would be
helpful. And so, I offer these days about
this relationship to mind that children that thoughts are the children of your mind. And we should learn to relate to them as such, in a really loving, open hearted, compassionate way. Holding everything in Trump or Mitch is language within the cradle of loving kindness, which is what metta is the practice of loving kindness and even His Holiness Dalai Lama right famously says often, when people ask him about Buddhism, he says, My religion is kindness. And so in a real way, it's deeply connected to my religion of metta. There's a famous story of a king who was apparently was approached but it was really busy. You know, like what you doing but I just don't have time. I have his damn kingdom. I have to run. Can you give me one practice? And you'll see how this ties into the second and third stages of before Obama hires. He said, wish all beings well. Wish all beings well. So we start with ourselves we wish ourselves well. We start with loving kindness towards ourselves, because then when we develop this, really a natural consequence of it, is we express towards others. What we express towards ourselves. And so by developing a kind of loving relationship to the contents of our minds, we naturally then express that to others. And so even though this happens naturally, the liturgy that I will share with you super easy. invites that invite that invokes that more overtly. So we start with ourselves. And then we progress in a very real way from kind of an egocentric, self centric approach to a brother centric approach to a world centric approach to a cosmos centric approach to fundamentally have a mind and heart big enough to embrace and hold everything. And so in my style we can these are all things that I've discovered in decades of doing all these practices. I start this practice with sitting meditation, but I do a one little addition here is I put my right hand over my heart center. And sometimes, when I'm having a really hard day, I'll actually put my left hand over like like this in this is almost as if I'm giving myself a hug, right? And there's this there's underlying sense when I do this that like, you know,
I'm okay.
This is life may be really hard. I might really be struggling but you know, I'm okay. Just the way I am. I'm good. I'm good. A difficult day. Sometimes this will almost bring tears to my eyes because even though it can be really difficult just as mudra alone, just as gesture
will say you know what? It's okay. It's okay.
So I will actually hold this Mudra when I do these, these recitations.
And
the actual liturgy itself could not be simpler. That's really what makes it so powerful. And as a kind of contemplation meditation, the way one works with it, is I'll recite it you can you can jot it down or it will be recorded. These are very simple things. And then as I do so, I will feel very deeply into what the quality is that this particular contemplation meditation is designed to evoke. So in other words, I try to put as much emotionality and felt sense into this as I can not just flapping my lips when I do it, but really feeling it. These four immeasurables as I'll run commentary on after we do them together. Call to cultivate in order the qualities of loving kindness,
compassion, sympathetic joy, and equanimity.
The only emotions worth having is the teacher I came by refers to it the only emotions worth peppering heading. And so if it feels right for you put your hand over your heart I will recite each one several times. And again to let the liturgy let the words themselves invoke evoke these particular qualities of loving kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy, which means celebrating the joy of others and then equanimity towards all beings and all things so the liturgy itself is may all Cindy and beings enjoy happiness in the root of happiness.
That's the loving kindness
that includes me May all sentient beings including me
enjoy happiness in the roots of happiness
they all sentient beings enjoy happiness in the roots of Happiness may they be free from suffering,
the roots of suffering
the be free from suffering and the roots of suffering.
Compassion daily be free from suffering the roots of Suffering
may not be separated from the great happiness devoid of suffering, sympathetic joy
anything not be separated from the great happiness devoid of suffering?
May they not be separated from the greatest happiness devoid of suffering? sympathetic joy
may they dwell into great equanimity free from passion, aggression and prejudice
equanimity
they dwell on the great equanimity free from passion aggression and produce.
They dwell on the great equanimity free from passion aggression and prejudice.
His practice
is a wonderful standalone practice I often do it in my usual morning kind of regimen or practices. I do it right before I do the practice of Tong Lin which we've talked about earlier, the practice
of sending and taking
and it doesn't take very long I can literally do it within a minute or two. And it's just a marvelous way to recontextualize to research away what I'm doing and why. And for those of you who know when I talk about what are called the magic induction techniques,
definitely a Dream Yoga,
nothing and lucid dreaming around what I call magic industrial techniques. Those two are the practice of compassion and devotion. So this one's not overtly devotional practice, but it's definitely compassionate practice. So this also sneaks out a little bit of that secret ingredient for lucidity. So the way I typed that into the end of my day, is when I'm doing my Dream Yoga, nocturnal induction I often will reinstate that with a mudra of Anjali over my heart and say, you know, may I something to the effect of May I engage in the practice of lucidity? For the benefit of all sentient beings, so it's not just me, I'm not just doing this practice for myself. So just a little sidebar in terms of how it kind of sneaks up on that quality. So again, to reiterate the fundamental practice is to reflect really deeply an effective, visceral felt practice, feel into the words. Allow them to transform you. Sometimes it's recommended that you feel your own heart and mind with these respective qualities of loving kindness, compassion, we feel the warm glow with them, then you send it in one direction. Then you send it out in another and another and another until you just radiate out 360. And in so doing, even though you're starting with yourself with the first one loving kindness towards self by the time it gets to the fourth one, you've decentralized you've expanded and open identifying with all beings. Until in fact, your loving kindness becomes immeasurable. Your compassion becomes immeasurable. Hence, before immeasurable, so for limitless ones. So we start small because we that's what we are, we are initially small we saw we are and then we expand, we grow. We grow to eventually include everything
and all beings and so there's
a great deal to say about this the only thing I'll say for now and then maybe we can do it one more time together and then we can talk about it is that the sometimes also called for expansions for openings. Serve to counteract are usually contractive ways. So in other words, loving kindness
counteracts aggression.
Compassion counteracts harmfulness
sympathetic joy counteracts. Envy,
and equanimity counters, kind of stickiness or the tackiness of the mind altogether. So we can do this again one more time, and then let's talk about it a little bit and if anybody has augmentations from their own understanding and experience around this practice, we can share it with each other so we can do it one more time again, my thing I just put my hand over my heart but that's just me.
All sentient beings and joy, happiness and the root of happiness
do they be free from suffering and the roots of suffering? cannot be separated from the great happiness devoid of suffering. They dwelled on the great equanimity free from passion aggression and prejudice.
Short and sweet
because they really require a kind of concentration and a certain sense of kind of a quality of clarity. I tend not to do these personally, I tend not to do these for longer extended periods of time I find the shorter sessions are the ones that I can really click into. But that's just me. That's just my style. And so what we do at the end of these sessions is we open it up to q&a around this or anything related to meditation altogether. If there are other practices that are I'm sharing other questions that are more related to different topics. I prefer to defer those to either the webinar or the Thursday q&a, but if you have something pressing on any front, you're more than welcome. And again, offerings are also very welcome. So if you want to talk about this for a few minutes, now's the time.
There was a couple of questions let me like you said, free from passion aggression, was it prejudice
or prejudice? It's, again, sometimes just passion, aggression and ignorance. So so the three root poisons that the literacy that I was trained in was passion, aggression and prejudice.
Perfect.
They were talking about that in the chat. So I wanted to clarify Forel Alright,
that was scary scanning through some of these as well.
Oh, we have a hand up. I'll go ahead and unmute. While you're looking.
There we go.
Hi, Andrew. Hi. So I do metta practice in the Tera Vaada tradition.
Yes. I was hoping you would come online. Thank you. Yeah.
And I'm curious why you do that breathing in the beginning because I when I do it, many people in Theravada use metta as a practice to go into jhana right. So it's already a very strong concentration practice.
So why
why do you do that breathing at the beginning? Oh, okay.
So I do it simply as a way to gather again, this is why I'm sharing. This is my style, really. So it's like, I do, everything I do starts with some form of mindfulness, whether it's over mindfulness of breath, mindfulness of body shamatha doesn't really matter. So I do it really just simply as a way to kind of gather because otherwise what happens is, if I don't do that, then it's like my telescope is a little bit too wobbly. Right? I don't, I don't just have I don't have enough kind of centrality to then connect. So for me, it's just a way to gather, stabilize, centralize and then work with opening. So it's just something that again, I'm sharing a little bit of an I try to qualify when I'm doing something that's my own idiosyncratic approach. I tried to share the way I was trained, and then I share some of the idiosyncrasies that I discovered after decades of doing it that seem simply just worked for me and that's why it's so great to hear from people like you and others. I love this especially about meta because there are so many ways to teach this one that I find it really compelling to see how other people work with it. So
yes, they're common nastic venerable and NALEO I don't know if you're familiar with I do
know him. I actually met him. Oh, no, no, I'm a row. Not ally. Oh, I met Amara. He's the German guy, right.
Yes. And he, he's got an extraordinary practice. And he's also written a gazillion books and right, reads all the time. And anyway, he he teaches metta as a radiation practice, and he has you go in directions first like you open the curtain and go to the front and then to the right, and then and he doesn't use any phrases or any. He just has the heart. And it's interesting. I've done a couple of retreats with him doing that practice. And
I've read, I've read his riffs. He's great In fact, I think I endorse one of his books recently. But yeah, that's a little bit what I intimated very briefly when I said you started in one direction and then going the other. And I remember when I was researching some of this along with Sharon's work because she obviously teaches a lot on this. I remember Elijah talking about this and it just that also resonated with me. And that's again, one of the reasons I love this one, because there there are so many different ways to work with it. Most important thing of course, is just understanding the view behind it What what are you trying to really accomplish and then you have all these different kind of variations of invoking these qualities of heart and mind. So anything else you want to share? Because I know you work with this one a lot.
Well, one thing about venerable and NALEO he says this publicly so I'm not outing him in any way. He sleeps in often.
He sleeps in a coffin. That's awesome. Good for him. I think. I think that's great. You know, when I did when I did my three year retreat, I slept in a box. I slept sitting up in a meditation box and then when I when I do my Bardo programs and I have the opportunity, SMC last year I did it. We bring actually bring a coffin up there, and people can snooze out up there as long as they want as part of the also the memento mori thing, which is great, right? Always remembering. So I don't think it would go over that well in my household. Maybe last night on Halloween, that'd be a killer thing to do. But generally, yeah,
I've always wondered when he when he first told me that I I was so taken aback. My curiosity really wants to know if he closes it. And I so regret not having asked and and then COVID came in I can't talk to him. So yeah,
I mean, respiration wise, that could be a little bit interesting but yeah, next time you see him King him a note and see if he keeps the thing close or open or not.
Keep it open. Sort of a cheap you know?
Yeah, well also depends on what kind of coffin you get right? Because you can get you can get these cardboard ones like hey, that wouldn't bug me. But some of these things, you close that baby and it's dark and stuffy and I sure as heck couldn't sleep on one of those but if you get one of the cardboard type. It's actually fun so to speak, to go coffin shopping. If you haven't done it. I recommend it. It's a very interesting thing to do. Go to your funeral parlor and just have them just say I want to check out the coffin thing. It's amazing. They run from couple $100 basically cardboard thing that's what I'm going to go in before they put me in the cooker. To these things that are like they're like, I mean, it's like the Porsche of of caskets. I mean, like 10s of 1000s of dollars. I'm going to virtually air conditioned some of these things. So it's actually quite kind of gallows humor to go in and go cop and shopping. But anyway, that's getting a little bit of insight.
Don't you have as a Tibetan Don't you have sort of a little bit of a desire to just be left out on the mountaintop and just?
Well, you know, that's that's the that's the fundamental instruction is to just as they say, I think it was Patrul Rinpoche says, you know, may I he would make aspirations, may I have the great good fortune to simply basically crawl underneath a tree and die? And so, yeah, easier said than done. Unless you happen to live in Tibet. You can't really do that so well in the United States. Yeah, I mean, I get again the point here from equal is just to whatever extent I mean, a little bit sidetracked from what we're talking about today, but it's cool. It's been Yeah, to whatever extent we can work with with Memento Mori with just remembering. Fantastic and if sleeping in a coffin does it for you, that's great. But there are other ways to do it. There's a week woke app, you can get this app. It's like 99 cents. That pings you five times a day with basically it'll thing will pop into your text that says basically, fundamentally you are going to die. And then it has a little quote from from some teacher from some tradition about it. When I get it I every if I happen to be with people that pings and I only get the text I just got and I show people on their faces skulls white. That's me, you know, I'm twisted. But anyway, thanks for the offering. I appreciate it.
Okay,
that was a question from Karen. She said towards the end I think of the conversations which went before expansions counteract the third was envy in the fourth list stickiness, what are the first and second?
Oh yeah, okay, so yeah, loving kindness counteracts aggression. Compassion counteracts harmfulness, or they're obviously deeply related, sympathetic joy. Obviously, that's an obvious one contracts, envy, jealousy. And then equanimity basically just counter counteracts the grasping sticky quality of the mind altogether. And again, this is of all the practices out there. This is the one that has, I wouldn't say more variations than any other, but there's more running commentary and more styles of doing this Mecca thing than almost any other practice I've come across. So again, I learned it using this particular liturgy. But like Louie was talking about you can do it in just a number of different ways. So basically, understanding that the heart essence of it, literally taking it to heart, and then just incorporating it, I love it because it's so brief. I mean, I can cut touch into these, this four line liturgy, literally was it take me a minute, and I do it every single day before I do my tableau practice. So that's just the way I roll with it.
Okay.
All right. I'm going through these impartiality. Yeah, that's good. Anybody else it is me reading through the
theme anything?
Oh, yeah. I want to talk about burials and stuff.
I have seen the green burials is that where they you grow and you say, You're a plant you and you kind of grow the tree, right?
Pretty much yeah, I guess what I want to do. Yeah, my dear friend. She actually has a place just a couple miles down the road from where I live where she does, she does the green burial thing and she also does what's called Water cremation. I guess because we talked Halloween was yesterday. This is seems to be in the air today. Water cremation is when you when you put somebody in this kind of coffin like container. And then this particular solvent, this high alkalinity alcohol alkaline fall it literally dissolves the body within a matter of hours. And at that point, then you get everything can be distilled the cremains so to speak, or water remains and then you can take that water and use it to fertilize your plants, which I think that's great. I mean, I haven't seen it yet. I'm not sure it's actually allowed to but it's a very interesting new way to work with green styles, green burials altogether, or cremation. Take it out. Okay, cool. Looks like this. This was a conversation stopper. We're not getting a lot it was just fun. Anybody else before we call it for today? Any other questions or comments or offerings? pause to see something. Give me just one second. Hold on a second. Let me pull up my other computer.
Messaging Thomas. He sent me a message he had sent in a question.
That's where I was just going to see if it's in my other computer
was about where to go. Oh for the recorded sessions. I sent it over to Bob. But those are found Oh
yeah, Bob knows that. I don't really know some of those tech things. So yeah, if you pin it over to Bob, he will be the person to answer those kinds of different question. So let me just see here real quick Hold on.
Oh, we have a hand up to all the mute. Yeah, Jenny where we are you look
okay. Hello.
Hello, Andrew.
How are you?
I'm well thank you darling. I'm looking at this is not a related question but and I don't know quite where I might ask it. But I'm, I'm very interested in the Hindus and
interested in what I just didn't hear you being do or bindoon Hindus, okay.
So I I've I've never really gotten a hand and I've actually looked at them from lot numbers of directions. I did a polar course many years ago and, and you know, the tantric yoga. It's part of the tantric yoga practices. And so on and I and I've recently encountered them again, I'm thinking you're in one of your books, and I'm not quite grasping the fear of it.
Okay. Yeah. So So Bindu is a bi n d u test grid, Tigray and Tibet. This is one of the these multi Vaillant terms that has a lot of different meanings depending on the context. And so I will refer you the single best exploration of this topic I've come across is in a really esoteric but very powerful book called Naked seeing by Christopher Hatchell. It
was I can see
naked seeing naked.
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Yeah. It's a really very deep commentary on the collar chakra of bone in Dogen approaches to what's called cobalt practice. And so there's one really brilliant chapter in there. The whole chapter is devoted to Bindu and he unpacks it in a way that is the most elegant I've ever seen. But briefly, again, there's this is a really big topic Vindu is is a core ingredient to the subtle body. So this is one of the most classic definitions where you have you have the winds, chakras, the channels and then the drops and so the drops of course that they've been doing and so the way the Trump emoji defined it is probably the easiest, he simply said, think of Hindus as drops of consciousness. And so there are many different types of the news. There's called the indestructable Bindu. There's the binder that you get from your mother. There's the binder you get from your father. There is augmentation of induce this is a really complex kind of inner yogic phenomena and there are a set of practices especially if you're doing pull up who is definitely connected to Bindu because that's what you work with in terms of the ejection process. So I'm gonna pause for a second because the topic is so big, so that you can maybe pay a little bit more like where you want to explore. I mean, sometimes there is you know, there visualize is like little sesame size, sesame seed size, like glimmering pearls. So, that's a classic way they're visualized. But again, they have they have a lot of definitions. So I want to make sure I'm tracking the right one that you want me to explore. So can you help me a little
bit? No, I think that you know, I would like to have a much broader understanding of it but you know, I'm it's funny reading something and hearing something can be too different. Yeah, way. Grasping and I feel like I Grest a little more just in your very brief, you know, conversation, but I'll go away and find this naked Seabrook and you
can see naked seeing as he ing like getting
in. Okay, good. Thank you. And
there's another one that I'm trying to think of the ones that are most directly impactful for me. The other one is the profound inner principles, translated by Elizabeth Callahan. This is a commentary from what I have I think it's come up a run George's teachings on this stuff. So of all the ingredients of the subtle body builders are by far the hardest ones to understand. So you're not alone when you're trying to wrap wrestle your mind around these and try to work with them, but it's worth a wrestling match, because when you start to explore them, you realize how how compelling this term is that it had they have on a physiological level, they have outer body correlates where any concentration of lifeforce energies related to pendu principle like sperm, ovum hormones, neurotransmitters and the like. So they're, they're really important in the inner yogic system. And then they also have a more philosophical approach in the kind of tantric traditions as well. So it knew this is a big topic, and those are the two of all the books I've read. Those are the two principal ones that I get the most out of profounder principles and they get saying
I'm sorry, the principles fine. I'm sorry, I haven't quite caught.
Found inner principles. Oh, right. Okay. Yes. Right. I'm pretty sure it's one can Dorji.
Okay, thanks very much. Very well.
It's worth it's worth wrestling with. It's a very deep topic. Okay.
I find my myself really strongly attracted to understanding
it's worth it's really worth the wrestling match. I mean, the binder the binder principle is a really interesting one. Because a lot of what we do with with especially the inner yoga practices is working with augmenting these distributing them around the body, working with them in a kind of very deep yogic principle. And they so therefore if you are in fact the tantric, it sounds like you are. This is a particular aspect of the inner Yogi's that you'll find really worth exploring, but that probably in a public setting is just is just one of these topics, especially when you get to the deeper end of it. That at this point, we've got one right now.
Okay. Thank you.
Welcome. Okay, so let me see if anything else came in here.
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Okay. Any other questions, comments offerings before we trying to find this my folder here? I'm not finding so unless something else comes up. We tried to leave it around the hour mark, which is about where we are. So webinar on Wednesday. The fifth stage of doing yoga, q&a on Thursday. Jeffrey's coming back on Monday, he's going to help me out. And then book study group next week. I have to figure out how to do that. I can either pre record it because I'm going to be on a plane when the time is set. So I'm actually pretty coordinate which I haven't done before, or maybe bring it to Wednesday after Wednesday evening. So I have to play with that a little bit. And then the deep dive event next weekend.
And we'll do a deeper dive Thursday. Oh,
I forgot about that. Yeah, so for those of you who are we're doing the deeper dive event this has been sponsoring or holding I should say, an ongoing kind of group. Thursdays and what time is that? It's like 10 o'clock.
Yes, it's 10 o'clock or 10 o'clock Mountain Time, and this will be the last one before the next weekend retreat.
Cool. So okay, any last minute gasping questions or comments before we sign off? For today? Try to get get the 40 Miners into the herd. They're so simple. You start incorporating them every day. You'll go through these literally in a minute. And they're they're a wonderful way to connect to something bigger than yourself, to allow your heart and mind to open and expand. And so again, I do this before I do by Tom Lane every morning and I find it really really instrumental in that. So thanks everybody. Great to see everybody nice to connect again to either on Wednesday or Thursday or somewhere along the way of life. Okay, thank
you so much. Thank you. Hi, there's no good Andrew. Andrew Andrew Safe travels. Good night, everyone. Thank you. Nice Oh,