Bloomfield Zoning Board meeting, November 12, 2020
3:40PM Nov 13, +0000
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All right,
we got everybody.
So,
channel 35 is gonna give me a countdown so just wait one second. Just as a reminder, anybody that's not talking while you're not talking, please keep yourself muted.
Why
2020 notice of the time, date, location and gender this meeting consent then provide at least 48
hours
prior to the commencement of this meeting in the following manner. Just go into the provisions of chapter 231 and Ward 1975. Also known as your public reading act, one I posted such notice on the bulletin board of the municipal building and family such knows is the opposite of independence press the Bloomfield life and star leisure.
And additional notices this meeting is being held to zoom at 7pm on Thursday and over 12 public is invited to attend due to multiple executive orders issued by Governor Murphy and in an effort to prevent further spread of COVID-19. You may have set access this meeting either through telephone number or through the link may also be available available for viewing live on Channel 35, Comcast, channel 30, Verizon, YouTube or Facebook Live. You can of course view them as posted in advance on the zoning Board of Justin page township website is contact the board secretary to call consensus 973-680-4150 you'd like to review the application material, the zoom information to attend virtually as meeting ID 81466125653 passcode 563390 and there is a link in the agenda if you wish to use that instead. And with that said this sounds please call
Miss Brown
as Mr. Johnson Listen,
Mr. Prince, and then
Mr. Dahle Nicki present.
Miss Brandt present Miss Oliver
Mr. cybers Mr. Puno
Mr. piano?
You got to unmute.
Okay, you're here say president? Chairman michalsky. Yeah, thank you. Oh, also present is the board's attorney Mike Rubin, the board's planner George Williams of Michelin and the board's engineer Rocco maroochy. From maroochy. Engineering.
Thank you. Thank you. Process hated to communications, resolutions and minutes. We have no resolutions tonight. We do have minutes for all of these minutes. I'm going to refer to a previous industry distributed to you in draft form for review. And comment. The first is the zoning Board of adjustment meetings, the regular meeting of August 13 2020.
Can I just interrupt one second? I forgot to announce we also have Mr. Fishing her of NB five, the board's traffic engineer. I apologize. I'm sorry.
Thank you. So board, we have the dress medicine regular meeting of August 13 2020. Are there any comments regarding easements? changes, corrections or edits? No one on a motion to approve minutes votes 13.
Mr. Chairman, I'll move that we approve those minutes from August 13.
Mr. Johnson moves Is there a second?
Second,
Mr. Bell, Nikki seconds All in favor?
Aye. Aye. Aye.
Anyone opposed? I hear no one. opposed the minutes of August 30 2020 are approved.
brings us to the minutes of the special meeting of August 27 2020. Once again, board any comments, discussion edits are here. One man I have a motion to approve the minutes of August 27.
I make a motion to dominate
the minutes.
Is there a second? I'll second. The spring seconds. All in favor please say aye.
Aye.
there anyone to pose?
I hear no want to post the minutes of August 27 2020 are approved as submitted. That brings us to the minutes of the regular meeting of September 10 2020. Or, and discussion regarding easements.
I hear no one.
I have a motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of September 10. Please join.
The subscribers have moved. Is there a second? Islip Mr. Puno seconds. All in favor please say aye. Aye.
Aye.
Is there anyone opposed? I hear no one follows the minutes of September 10 2020 are approved. And
then this was a call
you did we have September 3 2020
whiteboard reports we have before us the minutes of the special meeting of September 3 2020. Are there any comments discussions? corrections anything?
here no one it was on I
have a I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry. I was having some difficulties. I logging on to the meeting. How are you? Sorry to interrupt.
Sorry.
Any comments board meeting minutes of September 3 Here we go one all the time the motion to approve Miss Campbell. Third. Christabel Nikki motives are second.
I'll second.
Brand seconds. All in favor, please stay on. Is there anyone to pose to pose the minutes special meeting of September 3 2020 are approved as submitted.
All right, that brings us to item three upcoming applications to consider for engaging on board professional planner or avoid traffic engineer to review prior to going application. The first one is board is 59 dive straight. Though recall that the board approved an application for 59 days straight there was a legal action taken and the board agreed to reconsider that app that revised application. So it's being remanded to the board to reconsideration. 59 dogs. Jayco recalls the conversion of the old bank bank building on corner Dodd Archer to become a mixed use residence and retail. So during discussion regarding whether or not we should engage the planner and the engineer to advise us on our reconsideration isn't there.
Mr. Chairman and board, I recommend that we do retain our signer for this seeing as how this is again before us. All right.
I agree with Mr. Prince. Prince.
This is brown and Greece. Okay. Anyone else just got more.
I agree with Mr. Prince. But I'd also like to traffic experts since this is on that corner property and it was some issues. We have to you know Over on there.
That's right, those traffic issues, parking issues. You're right. Mr. Melnick,
I concur with
Ali said we should engage the planner and the traffic engineer may have a motion to engage the issue. Mr. Traffic
supposed to be engaged the
happy hour.
I have Hold on one second. Mr. Sandhu, can you please mute your mic?
Mr. Chairman, again, I propose that we engage our planner and our traffic engineer for 59 dodge Street.
Thank you, Mr. Prince. Is there a second?
Second?
taller? board?
Miss Brown? Yes.
Mr. Johnson? Yes, Mr. Prince? Yes. Mr. Baum. Nikki. Yes, Miss Brown. Yes, Mr. Oliver.
Mr. Stivers? Yes,
Mr. Puno? Yes, Chairman Michalski?
Yes,
please let the experts know this person is engaged. That brings us to 55 Lawrence street 55 Lawrence street borders on the corner of DOD alarms. It presently is a church building the witness church children on that corner, proposal before us to establish a mixed 50 unit residential and commercial structure, placing the church and its associated buildings as an ad to an office r to the zone. So it's in a neighborhood business and not a residential two families. For a 50 unit, apartment building and retail on the ground floor.
Commercial we engaged the close. Chairman,
I would propose that we engage both the traffic engineer as well as the planner. This project is similar to 59, DOD in you know its size and scope. And pretty much the same year.
All right. Thank you. Anyone else?
I would agree with Mr. Johnson.
I agree as well. All right, Mr. Stivers.
Thank
you.
Anyone else wish to speak?
I concur with you My colleagues and I want to thank the motion and please
make that motion. Mr. Valmiki mode stated for a second.
I'll second.
Mr. Johnson seconds is presented please hold the board.
Okay.
Miss Brown? Yeah, Mr. Johnson? Yes, Mr. Prince? Yes, Mr. Valmiki? Yes,
Miss Bryan.
Mr. Oliver. Yes. Mr. Stivers? Yes, Mr. Puno? Yes, Chairman michalsky.
Yes. Motion is approved, please let the experts Okay. That brings us to 71 Eaton place that's a residence in our one A's um, and as far as I can see, the only thing they're requesting is a variance because there is a widening. So a lot of loss the same way we need a planner or a traffic expert mistake something.
You see anything else? I don't have it with me.
Did they mark it as a use variance? I don't have the application in front of me.
I don't see that now. I don't know. appears to be
I believe is it front yard parking.
Okay. I don't I don't know. I could just
be an hour as possible. Mike, you have the application. You're looking Mike, you're on mute.
We can't hear you,
Mike, you're on mute.
Sorry. That's okay.
One second.
Concrete entry.
I guess what they're doing is they're going to expand the front driveway Sunday is directly in front of the
dwelling not just in front of the garage.
So they're going to create a second a parking space in the front yard.
And that's not a use variance. Yeah. Okay, that it's my error. I don't know why.
Don't worry about it. So a big deal.
Yeah, no, that's fine.
All right. So if no one speaks up and feels that we should engage the traffic planner, the planner, the traffic engineer, we will not do so. I'll say here. Any objection.
Okay.
And so that brings us to 145. Washington State Board. This is a proposal to convert residents into a three family home and over one family's owners and r1 as a proposal for three family dwelling.
Just to cheer with john was that in a one
on one our one day?
one family residential 40 foot frontage?
Miss Chairman, go ahead. I think at least we should perhaps engage the traffic engineer just because the location is directly adjacent to the center on as well as to other ongoing construction around the center.
Alright, anyone else? Or I'm gonna recommend my opinions that we should engage the planner as well. This being a use varies a D D, one use variance. I would expect that we would receive planning testimony from the applicant in this matter and we should ever on planet provide counterbalance and provide his testimony so we can judge the merits of the two experts testimony. That's my suggestion.
Anyone else? Yes, Mr. Chairman, I
would concur with your suggestion as well and Mr. Johnson's to
anyone else?
Yeah. I have a question regarding the property. I noticed yesterday in driving by that there is a for sale sign out in front of the property. I don't know if that changes the status of the application at all.
This is an appropriate time to discuss anything related to the application other than the hiring of
professionals understood Okay thank you.
What else? here another one all detain emotions please.
Do check that we retain both the planner and the traffic engineer for 145. Washington.
Okay, thank you, Mr. predecessor. Second. Mr. Valmiki seconds is designed to postpone the board.
Okay.
Miss Brown? Yes.
Mr. Johnson?
Yes, Mr. Prince? Yes, Mr. Bell, Nikki? Yes, Miss Brandt. Yes, Miss Tolliver Mr. Oliver. You're unmuted Mr. Oliver. Okay, Mr. Stivers? Yes, Mr. Puno?
Yes, Chairman Michalski.
Yes.
I'm not sure about Mr. Oliver.
What was the vote?
That's a that's everybody but alright, so
it's motion carries. We've got the experts nobody their assistance.
Okay. All right.
That moves us
forward to 2021 meetings scheduled for that was distributed to everyone in advance for review comment. comments have been submitted and this concerns I believe, to have some revisions made Comments, various people, including myself. Anyone else have anything to say about the schedule? Now? Okay, I'll entertain a motion to approve the 2021. Day schedule, please. As submitted and revise.
I will make that motion.
All right, Miss grant moves.
Is there a second?
Second?
Mr. Johnson seconds. All in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? I don't know what to pose the 2021. meeting schedule is approved as as amended. All right. Moving right along. That brings us to item five all business
and find as
the application of Laurie rose for as applicant and founder for use diamonds, such as a relief this may be required from zoning boards fashion Bluefield, to convert a one family residence into a two family residence a residential one family are one a zone premises known as map 22. Block 573. Lines seven, better known as 31. Dish 33. Is their counsel for the applicant?
i'm john wooden, newly architect and prepared drawings and with me is the the owner of the property we roaster. All right.
The applicant is representing herself.
That's correct. All right.
This is a DEA one use variance. And you should understand that there are certain proofs that have to be submitted in order to just be properly consumed by the board. And those proofs are usually presented by a professional planner. So yes, that is the architect of licensed professional planner.
No, I'm not. I wasn't aware
of that regulation. Right.
So this would present considerable difficulty for the applicant not having an attorney representing her and not having a professional planner to present the proofs that are required to grant the D one use fairness.
Before we before we go down this road any further one I'm swearing both to the applicant and you're okay, swearing.
Okay. Both of you. Can you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes. Can you each just state your name for the record?
JOHN of Laverne Yoli
Can you spell that? GU a da je n o Li? Thank you, sir.
Laurie Roseburg first name, la URY. Last name, our own s e. r t.
Thank you. Okay,
thank you. Give me good, you're
right.
You can proceed this evening, and present your proposed development, the variances that are requested. And the adjustment Acacia for those variances, which normally for the one use variance requires testimony of that professional planner licensed in the state of New Jersey. I can't stop you from proceeding. But I want to point out to you that this isn't the one use variance requires five out of seven affirmative votes to pass on this that requires this planning testimony that I mentioned. So if you wish to proceed tonight, we can proceed tonight, the board can take a vote. But if you're tearing down, you can't come back with the same application again. The alternative is we can adjourn this to a future date gives you the opportunity to retain counsel and to get professional planning testimony to support your application. It's up to you and I'll ask Mr. RUBIN, the village attorney if he has any real sage advice.
I mean, you
you're not required to have an attorney.
You're not required to have a planner. we are required to have proof to satisfy the burden of the positive negative criteria
which in
these various applications
generally come from a licensed professional planner.
If I were to choose between the two of them, I would choose a planner. Okay,
what would it be possible, be heard and then based on baby On the sense, we get a bit we could. And then if it's necessary, we could adjourn the meeting and post and push it back a month. And whenever we are meeting next and and, and then acquire at the professional, I think what we have to say might might be a pretty, you know, it's pretty obvious, this isn't just out of the blue that this property was purchased with an understanding that what she wants to do was already in place. And there's a lot of evidence to indicate that. So if I'll let me speak to my, to my clients, she what she wants to do, but
we have
a scope. Mike, we'll give you
a second. We'll give you a minute to discuss it. But when we say that it is possible that we could hear part of the applicants tonight, application tonight, and we would be willing to adjourn it at the end of hearing the evidence. But if we take a vote, that's the final decision.
So I didn't have a question for the board. I, I put in this application in the middle of the summer. So I've waited over six months for this meeting. And there was a hiccup with the last month date. And so it got pushed back already to today this evening. And so my question to the board would be I would have to repost and remail you know, notification in order to, you know, to come and be heard before the board again, I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row. I don't want to, you know, obviously with the board's time in any way, but I obviously want to be able to put my piece forward in the in the best case, the best way possible.
Oh, you're unmuted, sir.
Yes, we understand. And the situation is that this is an open public meeting right now. So if we adjourn you right at the beginning, or if we wait to hear your testimony on a journey, and before the board makes a decision, we can adjourn to a future date. And giving notice and an open public meeting is the equivalent of mailing notices and publishing so you would not be required to do that again, because the announcement and a meeting that's already been set up and the public is invited to this meeting. And we'll hear about the adjournment. So the short answer is no. You would not have to read notice it's ensuring an eye. Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah. Think the prudent thing to do might be to push push this till the next meeting, at which time will appeal with a professional planner.
outside.
It might be makeup. All right.
Do you guys have the schedule for the last December meeting? I only have the new schedule. What's the December date? Is that the 17th?
I don't have it handy. But I don't have
a second because I will tell you
it is the 17th Okay, that's what I thought.
What order will they be on the 17th? The call?
Um will they be I
believe they're gonna have to be first because now they're considered old business.
What's good for them? Yes.
He disappeared.
Now there they are. They're on mute. So there you go.
What we'll do
is determine YouTube December 7 at the regular meeting and you will be the venture old business you will be the first to be heard.
World business. Okay.
Excellent. Thank you so much for your time. Thank
you very much.
We'll be right back. Hang on a second.
Just don't go away. board and I have a motion to adjourn. 3133 Osborne Street to the December 17 2020 meeting with no further notice from Quiet.
I'll make that motion. Mr. Chairman. The Press mosey. Is
there a second? stepping
McElroy hurry?
I heard this brand.
I miss brain seconds. I just asked briefly. Is there any member of the public hearing regarding this particular application? Now I hear no one's so bored. There's a motion and second to adjourn. 3133 us straight to the regular meeting on December 17. without any notice. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed pose? I can no I want to pose 3133 Osborne series in terms of the regular meeting of December 17 2020 without new Reno's
thanks, again.
Thank you.
Right, moving along. Old business item five D. Five D is the application of superpole cedd for test Nii as applicant and rain sack and long shot I've heard test me as owners and pardon me if I've mispronounced your names for use bearings, both fairies and any such other relief as may be required from the zoning board is the township of Louisville to construct In addition, a deck and stairs and residential to Sally are to be zone on the premises known as map 22. Walk 577 block 35 better known as 49. James, the applicant and I are the applicants counsel here.
The applicants here.
All right.
Anyone else just use her?
Yes, definitely.
All right.
Please, raise your right hand. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes. Can you please state your name for the record?
So be generous.
Thank you. Okay.
And, sir, just for the record, you're representing yourself, you do not have an attorney? Is that? right? Correct. All right. This is, as I understand it, you're requesting and D varies, which is a four four area ratio. And a C varies for site yard and building coverage, which are both variances. Being a D varies for for every ratio, you need five out of seven affirmative votes to be granted that. And usually in the case of a D variance. There is professional planter testimony that's required to demonstrate that prove that you've satisfied the negative and positive criteria under the municipal nine use loss. My my suggestion might be that you might want to consult the lady's attorney and or professional planners that you can have the proper testimony before the board. We can hear your application tonight. But as the board turns it down, you can't come back with the same application. So I just want you to understand the some of the issues that you're facing here and I'll refer to our board's attorney, Mr. RUBIN as Mr. RUBIN if he has any additional advice in this area.
First question I have for you is can you tell me the relationship between you and the owners? Ah,
I am their son. Do they live there? Yes. And you move there with them? Yes.
Okay. So you're doing this on their behalf?
Yes. Okay.
And when this is over, if you got approved, you will still live there. They will still there. Yes. Okay. It's up to you whether you want to see or not.
Yes, I want to see.
Okay. All right.
So what you should do is tell us what you plan to do. What variances you're requesting specifically. And what the justification is to ask the board to grant those variances, their approach required for the variances
I should I swear him in. You ready? yet? I swear I'm ready. Okay. Oh, yeah, I did. I'm sorry. I apologize.
Okay, please, sir. Okay, so So right now, we are in the in the side yard the APR the lot coverage in the building coverage variance right. So so the the thing that that I plan to do is extend the house in the back that out the house for about like about 16 So, the first floor is going to be like a small day as the entrance to the back door because right now it does the simple steps so it just like a small deck and and on the second floor above of the deck is gonna be lighter. The though extend from the second floor like a small room because life life like you asked me live we live like a big family I live with my parents who is the owner of the property but but but but right now my mom just passed away like couple months ago so it's only that right now. So it has me as a big family have my dad my family be too shy. My sister family to child and my my sister in law yes and and right now since since this since my kids for a while so right now they are in grade two, the my daughter My daughter's she's in grade two and, and my my son cheese he My son is going to be three years old right now. So we need a little more space for for them. Especially since since it has the situation in the colon. So the kids need to be study at home. And the plan that the extend the extension that we didn't have on the second floor like a small room so we can turn it to the study room or something like that. Yes.
Yes, ask a question. Could you just tell us in total how many people live in the house?
And I'm sorry to hear about your your your mother By the way, but putting up putting that putting her aside obviously
how many people live in a house in total? Okay. My dad, me my wife. Two shots, two children. My sister, my nephew and my niece, my sister and boyfriend. So 10 photos. And we live in my town the single family. How can we live like during the Asian style? I really need a big memory here.
Let's Cosenza we retain our experts on this.
The tariffs or something?
No.
Not for
not for 49. James,
you guys decided no on that one.
What do you hate Mr. maroochy?
So,
let's hear from
Mr. Rocco.
Right hand, Rocco. Just read the testimony. You're about to give us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Or do you? just state your name for the record?
shorter? Rocco maroochy. with Virgin Mary.
Yeah, just Sarah, just saying how Mr. maroochy. And his firm is our consulting engineer. So we're just asking him to talk about this application from his engineering perspective. Okay. Do you understand that?
Thank you. Hi, Mr. mirchi. If you could give us the benefit of your, your report, please. Sure.
I mean,
our report raises the setback issues of variances from which were brought up by the applicant. Maximum building coverage are 25% existing is 34.6 proposes 39.5 maximum Walker Ridge is 60% that's from their existing is 76.8 proposed is the 2%.
The
previous ratios on five existing Five, six, the proposed would be point six one. I just wanted to point out I believe this structure was built already. And then I and then was the building department and zoning found, I guess he should have stopped work on it. I don't know, if we can get some more information about that, you know, how it started? And, you know, how we ended up here? How far along is it? Well, from my understanding, speak to my father, the it was framed, the deck was built, the structure above was built that way believe I believe they were ordered to take it down. And I asked the applicant just to clarify where it stands. But that's my understanding.
I guess, that that's, that's, that's, that's, that's true. So So at the beginning, I mean, we plan to do it, and it's the back stair right, there are the steps to the back door is a concrete, and it's break, and at the beginning of the break, so so we're gonna repair that. So, at the beginning, we made the plan to like, make a small day, just a small day to make make make the the entrance life easier. And, and when we made the small deck, and, and we talk about it, and everything you say, Oh, me, me, me, me, and exhale, and the second floor. So I talked with a contractor that that that did it for us, right. So they say that on you. It you may not need to to to ask for the permit, because at that time, you don't know anything. So and then they do. And as you said so. So inspect the contract. And I talked to Tony, and he turned everything down and submit this application.
I'm sorry, did you say you turn in turn
down?
Yes. everything down? Yeah. Okay. So right now the the everything is as the existing? Yeah. All right board.
Questions for the applicant, please.
Mr. Chairman, the question is ahead of the question. The owner. Yeah, Mr. Mr. Sunil Kumar.
Yes. When you
when you hire the contractor, the contractor explained to you that there should be some permit and other formalities before you finish that job.
Yeah, because the contractor that that the highlight me, he like, you know, you know, in you for airframes, and he, you know, they're the one that we've had, like everything for us, right, like, repair the, the oil or the bathroom or something like that medically, blah, blah, blah. So, it just minor repair. And, and, and the data may be extended how before in the past before and add for us. And, and yeah, when I I asked him he said that, okay, we can do it. So So I mean, honestly, I mean, okay, if you if you because and when when we extend the house before it's about like five, six years ago, they day he I mean, he managed everything by the for the permit, you know, everything for us. So I just gave him the permission. Okay. Yeah, you can take care of everything and Yeah, something like that.
So, so five or six years ago when you when you made the changes this this contractor have obtained the permits on your behalf, he got them for you Saturday.
Right? Because they they they talked with my parents at that time is, man I'm not. I'm not involved with that extensions. They are there. They did a talk with my parents, which honestly, I don't know what what was the procedure?
So this this time when you hired this contractor, did you expected that he would get the permits for you? Is that right? Yeah, I
expect that he needs to pay everything. I mean, I, I called wiki man, I do whatever you have to do. Okay. All right. Any other questions for
Mr. Johnson? You're muted.
Sorry. Mr. Chairman. I have a question for Mr. Murphy. Mr. Murphy, with the extension. What would be the distance from the rear extension the outer wall to the property line?
extension
31 c
31. Which
is 31 feet. One eight. Okay, query plans and conforming. All right, he needs variances for side yard setback coverage, building coverage and as they are okay. Mr. Kubik is still another maybe one or more members of the public were hearing interested in this application. Right.
there any member of the public who has a question for the applicant? right now.
Just questions, please. No comments, just questions.
I know Michelle a is here for the application. She just might not have any questions right now. Now, she has no questions right now.
Anyone else for
now? Question? Who is on?
My name is Alex chalet owner? 55 James Street. Okay,
go on.
chalet? What was your address? I'm sorry.
We own I own the house on 55. James St. That Thank you. Isn't my dress, though.
Okay. What's your home address?
19
watch on place. Thank you.
So hey, Mr. Shelley, ask your questions.
All the numbers, percentages for a lot of bridges and so on a distances were they provided by are they provided by a professional architect, engineer or is it by the homeowner?
by the architect. Okay.
We're on the architect's plans is the zoning table. Okay.
I only reason I said that is because well, I won't comment on that. But
you can't. It's a question period. Please. Just questions now.
There'll be a comment later, you can make comments later.
Thank you. You're welcome. And I, I have the architects points in my hands here, which was submitted as part of the application and they are signed and sealed by the architect re seal. Any other questions? Anyone?
Miss Chairman, I just want to continue with the question here.
This is to the applicants the the architectural
plans that I have in front of me, it looks like this is an existing three bedroom house. Is that correct?
Ah
are you on? Five two floor right?
Yeah, so it looks like there's a first floor and two bedrooms on the second floor.
All right. So so the the big one that on a second product you see now is my my my family bedroom and in the sleep to get a guy like for for person. Yeah. Okay.
All right. And is there? There isn't a plan here for the third floor on an architectural drawing. Is our other bedrooms on the third floor or is that just stripping at it?
It's like the The, the, the, the athlete, but, but I mean mine is laid out there but yeah, it doesn't have key. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank
you. And so the the extension is is would basically be to your bedroom that you're using for your family's
array. So it means I don't like like my my reason so I have more space for my kids to work to study. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank
you.
Other questions? Any other questions from the public?
I don't see anybody breezing
regular testimony that the applicant
wishes to present. So
anything else? No, thank
you.
Is there any member of the public that wishes to be sworn in and make a statement or comment regarding this application?
Just unmute yourself, Michelle. Okay, raise your right hand. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes. Can you just state your name and address for the record?
My name is Vernon chalet. My address is 45 James Street.
Can you spell your first name for me please?
earn a B as in boy. Er.
Oh,
thank you. Thank you. Go ahead.
Go ahead. Michelle.
I am the owner 45 James Street and I've been living here for 30 years. And we did own 49 a street and we sold it to the owner. This addition will be the third addition to this property. The first edition was we saw that 2004 the first edition was the city they raised the roof for the attic and that is a bedroom and a big bedroom. The second edition was on the second floor it was done I think 2012 and now this third edition, there will be a deck upstairs and the second floor and it was done poorly almost including direct siding. Spring of 2019 it was such a tight place the back was three feet away from my small small patio and six foot above my patio. It was no privacy. It was no sunlight. And the second floor addition was way further than the deck in their property. Also I'm not property there is a concrete walkway and a concrete patio on the end of it. There is no green whatsoever on that property. is affecting us enjoying our yard. there if this I mean I felt that when it was built, no sunlight, no privacy whatsoever. I mean this is the third edition once again I stop I am allowed to enjoy my yard. At least for the spring and and and the summer that our winter is long. It is not fair for me and it will affect if I ever want to sell my property. It was affect it will attempt to sell my property. And this summer was done the the back door was moved. The stairs were moved. And on September of this year there is the building that again. I caught it down and then was notified what was the selling everything was the same disassemble and therefore only really understands. I have no pleasure being in this situation. But I also love to enjoy my backyard. I understand that we love our family and we need to stay together. But I also I am the person to consider my neighbors. It's not fair for me. I've been here for I've been here for 30 years. I need I like this enjoy my yard. I like to plant my flowers. There will be no sunlight if I if I if they build the second floor edition or did that. I mean the second floor edition will be touching almost like six feet away from my barbecue Brown. That's it. And I urge you to come and check it out. Thank you for your attention.
And cue. Does anyone have a question from Miss shelling? Does anyone have a question for Miss shoveling?
Mr. Mr. michelly, so
right now, the deck that was there is completely disassembled.
Yes, sir. The spring of 2019 it was this sample, including the second floor was disassembled.
Okay. And above it. That was just that was the next thing. I was gonna say the second floor is completely gone. Awesome.
Yes. But in 2012, there was a second edition on the second floor done.
Thank you.
All right. Anyone else? Questions for Miss Schilling. Oh,
thank you, Miss
Shelley. Thank you very much,
Mr. Chairman.
I'm sorry. I do have a question for Mr. Miller.
All right, Mr. Johnson. Go ahead.
Yes. The
the second edition that you refer to the architectural drawing and just trying to envision where that second edition was added to the house.
It was this was a one family house. The first edition sir, they raised the attic ceiling. And it was it was done as a bedroom. 2012. They did. The area where the applicant said that this is their sleeping area with his family. It was done all the way up all the way on top of the kitchen, including a bathroom and bedrooms and whatever.
So in
other words with the second edition, they extended the second floor. Yes, sir. Okay, and then. And then the third edition was to extend that same bedroom again. Yes, sir. Understood. Thank you.
Thank you.
Any other questions?
I have a question. Mr. Chairman.
This is Barbara Brown.
Are you to the to the
member of public I'm sorry, I didn't catch your name. Oh, Bella. I remember. You mentioned that move the door what order they move and did they move? What what part of the process was that?
I don't know. This summer. We did not. I couldn't enjoy my patio because it was so many things going on there. And I know the bag was moved. For me. It was right at the middle of the whole backdoor was moved closer to my property. And I know they were doing a full bathrooms and all this. And I don't mind this is none of my business that goes on inside the house. But when it's affected the way I mind living outside.
Okay, thank you. That's all.
Anyone else? No.
Thank you, Miss szalai.
Any other member of the public wish to make a statement? Yes, I would please.
Okay, shall,
Alec shall raise your right hand firmly?
This is Shall I Do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes, just state your name again for the record.
Thank you, sir.
We've only 55 James Street for six years now. And I can see that that house has grossly exceeded the limits. I'm worried about that. Because every neighborhood just me I'm my background is any engineering architecture. And we do commercial construction and build it. So I know it into it I know intimately that every neighborhood is designed with certain limits. That particular property grossly exceeds all limits. And that's why I was surprised that they had only 80 something percent 80% in change and lock coverage. That's why I thought it was going to be somewhere around 90 because there's there is no permeation there is no permeable surface, anywhere there. Now, in all of our neighborhoods. There are certain limits and those limits are designed for a specific reason. And that particular house exceeds every limit. I'm concerned about that because it's going to cause a chain reaction in the neighborhood. The street is already packed with cars of residence and so on. Now, with respect to our property in 55 James Street, I it was very tough and I thought that we shouldn't create parking for our tenants in the backyard. Just the drive we just have it in the driveway because I don't want to exceed the limits now respect those limits, they are not going to here, I'm not going to sit and preach about or lecture about what those limits are for. But seeing that house and with this additions to additions, three dishes, I don't know, all I can see is that that house is additions more than double the original structure, how it got a fruit, I have no idea and it is what it is, here's where here is where we are at now. And I'm just urging that it gets denied. It's only my opinion right now, because we have to set a limit, otherwise gonna cause a chain reaction. There is no percolation permeate permeable ground, they won't have any permeable brown on that street will have flooding in the brook in the back causing issues for Foley field, and so on and so on. So somebody has to pull the brakes so that we can tell the neighbors show the neighborhood that there are limits we can't just add on just because of any any reason I understand. We have a big family also. We understand limits, we respect those limits. And and the other thing about the notice on the contractor I I'm sorry, it's it's the resident that lives in a neighborhood that should know rules and regs for something major like
that.
burnish la had just told everybody here that how many additions they add. So whether the gentleman that's already speaking, the applicant representing the resident, the owner now, if he doesn't know it himself, his parents would know it, because they went through two major additions. So putting the blame on the contractor, okay, that's fine. But really, I believe that they know the process very intimately. And, and as a resident in this town, I would think that I hope that the limits would be set to them on any more additions.
That's all I have to say.
Any questions for Mr. chalet?
What?
Does anyone have a question for Mr. Chairman,
I do. Go ahead. Mr.
gela, you had mentioned that you are a professional planner?
No, no. My education is an engineering and architecture bachelor's and both. I currently own a construction company that does commercial building and technical adjustments.
Okay. All right. Good. Thank
you very much.
What else? No, thank you. Mr. Schilling. Sir, any other member of the public, which is to be heard? I hear and see no one. The
next
step before we close the meeting, for the board discussion, the applicant has the opportunity to summarize your application if you wish to do so. So.
Yeah, for myself. That's that's all I have.
Thank you. So time for public hearing is closed for time for this session, please.
Chairman, if I may,
Mr. Johnson.
When I initially reviewed this application, and not knowing any, you know, not having heard any of the other testimony, I was initially inclined to actually approve the extension. But based on the testimony from the public that I heard, and the the additions that have already occurred with the house and at the house sounds like it's already out of scale with its neighboring houses. I am inclined not to approve this, especially since it was it appears the applicant engaged without having the proper permitting.
Alright, anyone else?
Mr. Chairman, that's different. Um,
I happen to agree with
Mr. Johnson as well. I do understand this superpole situation and condition that he is living under, however, in in conjunction with his own testimony, and and with the testimony of For both Miss chalet and Mr. Schadt light, I am, I am too as well, I mean, inclined to deny this application due to the bulk variance that he is asking for, and it's in its intrusion and it will have on the his neighbor. And as well as the LC was looking for the FA r as well. With that in mind, and I'm inclined not to approve this application.
Thank you, Mr. Prince. Anyone else?
Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I tend to agree as well, Mr. Prince, and Mr. Johnson.
I would make one
caveat, though, that, at least judging by the satellite imagery that I can see, the house in its current size is not out of scale with the house right next door, which I think might be 45 genes, that actually appears to be as large or larger. However, if this house were to be added on to that
would then put it
beyond what appears to be in the
sciences.
My comments that I'd like to add is that with regard to the request to bulk variances, we've heard really no testimony that supports the bulk variances, the setback, for example, a lot of coverage. And that when we speak of a hardship, the hardship is not related to as much as we make emotionally feel for the applicant of the hardships are not related to family matters, or the number of residents, that the hardships that we speak of relates to how the how the property's size when the property is under sized. dwelling is as a pre existing condition like a insufficient setback. Those are the hardships that we're speaking of hardships had to do with land use, not personal matters. And there was no no testimony given that I that I heard if anyone is heard, please correct me. But that supports the the Volker variances, which is the setback, and the building coverage. And then more importantly, when we get to the Florida ratio, that's a D variance. And normally, the variances are supported by professional plant testimony that addresses the negative and positive criteria to this land use law. And normally, that that evidence is provided by someone with a planning license. And we have not heard that tonight, even though it's the applicant was questioned on such testimonies, as usually heard in the case of a few variants. So almost troubled by the lack of the evidence to support that we've tested variances. That's just my opinion for 30 anyone else who wishes to speak on a discussion board?
I agree with all of my colleagues, and especially you, Mr. Chairman, where the lack of testimony on the specific variances
All right. Anyone else?
Any motion that there's no one else?
I'll make a motion that this application not be approved.
All right, Mr. Bell, Nikki. Most denial of the application.
Is there a second?
I'll second.
Mr. Johnson seconds, please pull the board.
Okay. Mr. Johnson.
So am I saying no to non approved or you're
saying yes to a denial?
Yes. To deny so yes.
Okay. Mr. Prince? Yes. Mr. Valmiki? Yes.
Miss Brandt.
Yes. Mr. Oliver. Yes. Mr. Stivers? Yes, Chairman maciejewski.
Yes, application is going on.
Thank you.
We're moving on to the next Applications
previous
function to previous applications are welcome to listen in or you can tune us out if you don't want to listen. We move on to old business, five safe gadgets application of Demetrius Sanchez, applicant and owner for a use bearings, ball bearings, and any such other relief is made required. From the zoning boards township of Bloomfield to convert the second floor of an existing two story mixed use building some office space into great two bedroom residential dwelling
units
in a neighborhood B to business owner and the premises known as map 17. Block 435. Block two, they're known as linked to Franklin Street.
Is there a council for the applicants?
Mr. Chairman,
how are you sorry.
Mr. Chairman, members of the board, my name is Michael Pierre amalienborg term gastronomes amaco 524 Union Avenue in Belmont jersey, appearing tonight on behalf of the Hopkinton eatery sanzu as property owner and applicant that is before the board tonight requesting quote luminary and final major site plan approval with associated conditional use approval and bulk variance relief for property located at 19 Franklin Street, otherwise known as block 435 lot to on the tax maps of Bloomfield. I also know the board's information that a very small part of this property also lies within the cash flow available as well. specific to the applicant proposes to convert the second floor of the existing two storey building from its current office use to a two bedroom residential apartment
along with
the solver Can you please mute? If you're not speaking, anybody not speaking please put your mic on mute. Okay, I'm gonna mute you.
The first floor of the building is currently utilized
as a martial art
studio and will continue to be used in that manner. The subject property is located at B to neighborhood business zone and the proposed multifamily uses conditional use in the zone. Unfortunately, the application has proposed does not meet all of the required conditions. So we will require D varies. The testimonial here tonight will show that despite not meeting all the required conditions for the multifamily use, the proposed use of the property is appropriate for the site. Considering the existing building and the surrounding area and supporting se I attend quote three witnesses. I originally intended to first call the property owner applicants and Vietri sanzu, who will testify regarding his ownership of the property and proposed improvements. Unfortunately, due to the incredible timing of virtual meetings, we have our project planner Peter stick, who will actually testified first to the variances requested in connection with the application. It's just it's interesting now that we're all doing remote meetings we're trying to do in different places at the same time and for for IR works after that he goes first. So I will call upon pretty honored Dimitri sanzu. After that, and then architect Matt Evans will testify regarding the site plan prepared, and the design that converted second floor dwelling units and the improvements proposed the exterior of the site. So with that, Mr. Chairman, I would ask that you allow me to call my first witness Mr. Peter stack.
Please proceed as we are.
Mr. Stack you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. If you just take a name for the record,
Peter g stick s t e ck at Maplewood Avenue Maplewood New Jersey.
Thank you Mr. Stack. Mr. Stack. Normally, we
would call you last but let's keep this interesting. So let's
qualify you quickly.
So it's just that your professional planner licensed in the state of New Jersey?
Yes, I was licensed in 1976 and still hold that license today.
And what's supposed to do attend a connection with your work.
Marquette University for a Bachelor of Science in civil engineering and Rutgers for a master's in City and Regional Planning,
testified several times many times in front of zoning and planning boards in the state of New Jersey.
Yes in over 200 municipalities
except as an expert each and every occasion. That's correct. So I would proper Mr. Stack as a expert witness in the field of plan. Mr. Chairman,
Mr. Speck as appeared before this board Many times is there any discussion board? Will the board will accept Mr. Speck as an expert in planning. Thank you, Mr. Chairman,
Mr. sanguine, describe
the use of the existing site.
Yes, and my apologies for being topsy turvy here in order to have witnesses but there's another hearing
that is chomping at the bit.
So this is an existing building. It's a two storey building. The first floor is a commercial use. A martial arts studio typically operates in the in the evenings. The second floor was historically used for offices. The last user was a as a union union offices. It has been vacant since the current owner has purchased it, and it was vacant for a period of time under the prior owner. As the board is aware, it is somewhat difficult to rent offices at this time in history. So there has been a period of time where the property has been, the owner has been interested in accommodating offices, but there is no interest in that use on the second floor,
called the proposed use of the subject property.
Yes, the first floor use will remain the same. The second floor use is to be divided into three apartments, each of them being two bedroom apartments.
There will be a
minor restriping of the existing parking on the side street in order to accommodate a handicapped parking spot. So there would be a total of seven parking spots associated with this property. It's essentially 100% impervious coverage now and will remain that way. I note pair and theoretically that a corner of this property about 60 square feet is in the township of Bellville. But there's no change in that corner of the property.
Peter, Jesse, keep your testimony. Great for now, when some people want the violence relief, which is requested in connection with this application, and then we'll open up to Mr. Williams for any planning questions that He has for you. Okay.
I'm having in front of me, the November six memo from the issuing group, and it fairly accurately depicts the surrounding area
has been requested by
the applicant, there are
this is a
neighborhood business zone that does not allow
residential use as a automatic permitted. Despite the fact that a number of the buildings do have residential use on the first floor
along Franklin. This is the zone that allows
multifamily as a conditional use. And that can there are several
conditional use standards.
And as you would expect, one of the standards is no residential use on the first floor, there is a maximum and it says the first floor has to be used for non residential use and not parking. If it has a maximum height of four storeys, and obviously we comply with that.
One of the conditions is that the residential
density shall not exceed 25
dwelling units per acre.
That was
highlighted as a condition in the
beat this fee to rezone.
However, as I calculate it, and I'm just just going to use the square footage that's in.
In the Bloomfield. If I calculate
the density proposed
it were
22.2 units an acre. So in fact, we do a comply, you're under the 25 unit per acre maximum.
So the one
conditional use standard that we don't meet is that he which says combined parking requirements for all uses shall be met.
So that's the
one standard that at least conditional use standard that we we meet. I know that it's not a standard that is peculiar to this use. You've got a common comply with a parking in any event. The other thing that kicks in is if this works And it was an all commercial use. We're allowed to have 100% lock coverage, impervious coverage. But because we're introducing a residential use for the first time, the maximum coverage is 90%. So that's a sea variance. That is that we're creating, not that we're changing anything on the property. But by introducing residential use, we're making it it becomes a sea variance that
needs to be justified.
Now,
so, the standard of proof here is not the mcgeachie standard, which is, you know, a D one variance This is a multi family view setting of three dwelling unit sets multi family, and multi family use is a conditional use. So this is the so called Coventry standard. We don't have to show the enhanced burden of proof on the negative criteria, we don't have to show particular suitability of the property, we have to show under the Coventry case, we have to look at the negatives that arise from not meeting one of the standards. And in this case, not having the full complement of parking, presumably, six spaces for the first floor and six spaces for the second floor. We have to address the problems that may arise from not having the full code compliant parking. Now this is a property that only has seven parking spots on it, this property is under any use never going to have enough parking on the site, the building would have to be torn down in order to have code compliant parking. But what is interesting about this is that if you look at the square footage of the second floor, and as offices and you multiply it by one spot, for every 300 square feet, the prior use of this property required 12 parking spaces. And now that we're converting it to residential use, the parking requirement goes down to six faces. So although we don't meet the total amount of parking, what is happening in a sense is that the parking requirement at least for the second floor, is going down to half of what it was before. So looking at the entire project, it's coming closer in terms of what the compliant with the code requires for on site parking. So in looking at the positive criteria, the municipality endorses mixed use. If you look at the goals of the master plan, and these were outlined in the MOOCs report, you want to encourage commercial development. And while the commercial market is weak at this time, in my opinion, adding housing units in the area means that they're going to be more users of the goods and services in the area.
Certainly the ordinance
would like to see compliant parking. By approving this application, we are going in the right direction,
all of a sudden,
on the second floor, the parking requirement goes from approximately 12 spaces down to six spaces. So there by having this closer to code compliance. In my opinion, there is a benefit. And it clearly is a nice place for apartments, the applicant is going to restrict occupancy to people that only have one car apiece. This is in fact a great place for someone to live who doesn't have a car. Not everyone has a car. But the answer is there are blitzen services within convenient walking distance that say you don't need in the middle of a suburban area. Two cars, these are all two bedroom apartments. Not necessarily everyone is occupied by two or more people. Many people as you know have apartments for one bedroom is for an exercise room or a home office or whatever. So that if you look at this in the total package, it is becoming closer to what the ordinance is looking for. In terms of the negative criteria, the applicant is going to reserve one space for each apartment. The balance of spaces can be used by the user is of the first floor.
There is
on street parking
along, Franklin,
that that is generally available and certainly available toward evening. This does a bunch of uses that are residential on the first floor. So this will actually be one of the more conforming uses in the area. If this is approved, there are goods and services in the area. Historically, as you know, across the street is a large parking lot.
There is some
evidence that when that was approved, the owner of that shopping center was amenable to accommodating people that park in the surrounding area, there clearly is more than enough parking on that lot across the street. And the parking that's right across the street is the furthest away from the stop and shop store. We're not relying on that as a legal requirement. But it's a functional requirement that say our rsis says you need six parking spaces for the three apartments, it assumes that I half the space per apartment is really for a guest. So anyway, this is going to be managed. So there'll be three parking spaces reserved for the three apartments. The remaining spaces will be accommodated by either guests or users of the first floor. This is an area that allows on street parking. In terms of impervious coverage, there's essentially no change except for the striping and some right of way improvements. And the architect will detail those. So back to the beginning, this is not the heavy standard of a big case, it's a common tree case, I think the applicant has addressed the parts of the conditional use that are not met, we are under the maximum density of actually the parking demand will go down by converting from offices to residential use. And because the area will not change in terms of the runoff, the impervious coverage is of the same. It would be hard to insert landscaping here without harming have the ability to park on the property. And because there are the buildings already there, there's an inherent issue with the hardship because of the existing conditions. In my opinion, there are positive reasons, again, closer called compliance, that the master plan encourages mixed use. This is not the heavy standard of the ichi pace, and in my opinion if this is approved, and I condition this on the other testimony of the other witnesses, in my opinion, it could be approved without substantial detriment to the public good. And without substantial impairment to the zone plan
and zoning ordinance.
don't have much more to say except what Peter already said. So I would open up to board questions and then members of
the boards experts, board questions. Our experts that are experts have any questions, Mr. wheedle Williams.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good evening, commissioners. Good evening, Mr. Stick and disappear Valley. A couple of quick questions for Mr. sec. He is always very thorough covering everything. The hours of operation for the school or the commercial 10 on the first floor.
There'll be
another witness, but my recollection is it's about 530 to 830 at night.
Okay, so
there's no opportunity for the quote unquote, traditional shared parking analysis where the residents could actually use those spaces.
That's correct.
There is not the perfect, there's a little bit of overlap is
that is the sum and substance of it. Okay.
I know there's another witness coming. Do you know if there's any signage proposed other than what exists now? For the sake
of no change to the signage, signage?
That is it for me. I'll repeat this during my time to speak but, uh, I would agree with Mr. staxx calculation. In fact, I did confer with Mr. Marunouchi that the density calculation in our in Mr. Williams.
I'll wait till later.
Okay.
Let's see. Chairman, I
have one in the sec, you mentioned that the shopping center across the street was amenable in some form to parking there. Are you aware of any signs from what I can remember from my field visit? There's signs out there. Pretty nice frightening to tell anyone who's not parking there for the shopping center. Can you comment on that? Well,
the answer is we're not relying on their shopping on the shopping center parking. There was some indication when the application was approved. And that's a number of years ago that the board was inquiring about,
about
accommodating the neighborhood and not relying on that. But I it's my observation that along Franklin, whether it's on our side of the street or the other side, there is typically parking on street parking available. So that's what we're relying on. In terms of the negative criteria. We're not relying on that shopping center, because we couldn't dig out.
I think we asked the
municipality if they could dig up the approving resolution, and we could not find it. So we're not relying on that.
That's all I have for Mr. Stack. Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
Anyone else have a question for Mr. Speck? Mr. Chairman, I
have a question. Go ahead. Mr. JOHN. Yeah, this
was that you had indicated that the owner intends to restrict the tenants to one car per units, is that correct? That's my
understanding. And you can ask him directly, but that's my understanding. Okay. And maybe
I will ask him directly, based on where I'm going here. So in restricting each unit to one parking place, are you actually restricting the number of parking places or us or is that actually part of the lease? Where one car is is allowed?
The applicant is my understanding is going to make it part of the lease for the residential tenants. Okay, thank
you.
Anyone else? Other questions? Anyone?
there any member of the public?
Who has a question for Mr. Speck? I hear and see no one. No, thank you, Mr.
Peters. Stay in touch. We may need you again later.
I will be it'll be on the corner of my mind. But I thank you for the courtesy of switchyard.
Thank you,
Mr. Chairman. I'd
like to call my original first witness or applicant to be rescinded. Go ahead.
Raise your right hand.
Mr. Sandhu? Can you turn your your video on? Or no.
There's something on my computer. Let me try to go in a different way because my gym wasn't working. Sorry. Go through yours.
Okay. Oh,
I know. All right,
I'm gonna trust just raise your right hand. Do you swear the testimony? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? just state your name for the record. Thank you Mr. Sandow.
You, you're the owner of the property at 19 Franklin Street in Bloomfield, which is the subject of the present application
and how long have you owned the property?
I call Dallas property 28th 2014
and what is the present use the property periphery Mr. Stack from you? What
is the president of the profit?
Right now it's
just a karate school downstairs. Upstairs the baking person in no time.
And the upstairs to your best of your knowledge wasn't office use before you purchased it? And it's been vacant. And the previous owner also noted that it's been vacant for some time. Yes, you before the board tonight simply convert the second storey the building from an office use to three two bedroom residential dwelling units. Would you explain to the Board of why you're seeking to convert to residential units?
Why I think the building are much better than what I had there. And nothing is I'm having a hard time bringing it to office space or commercial space. Any type of tape was A few design I ran for some time, and I've been trying to rent it also, but it's just not working.
I have no further questions.
Questions for this witness.
You got to turn your mic. Hey, you got
to get on the plane here, there's an area on the first floor that says name word storage maintenance.
One,
if you will.
And that is the
garage door, double garage.
It's actually several garage. But yeah, that's going to be like all the maintenance stuff for the buildings, salt, snowblower, shovels, cleaning products and stuff like that.
And the parking spaces would be in front of
it. But there would be three assigned parking spaces one will be running in front of the garage. And
with those faces at this time, we do know they would be for the the apartments or for the commercial space downstairs
is going to be three assigned parking spaces for the apartments upstairs one foot apartment.
Okay, and they'll be designated downstairs exactly which ones are 30 apartments
for. Okay,
thank you. Mr. Chairman,
if I may,
Mr. Sanders, the the shelter or the link to that is on open apartment area. Will that will that be remaining after your completion?
No,
sir. That was actually installed because I okay, that because I really didn't have anything going on upstairs. Oh, just trying to help the karate school. Um, besides me lowering the rent, like going halfway, and then me trying to help them continue with their business. They had to train the kids outside, on at a certain point now they're okay to go inside had a certain percentage. So, yeah, that will be eliminated. Okay, thank
you. And the other question I have for you is,
um, your plan?
Well, I won't see the property and understand that there's a stairway that goes up to the second floor, and now you're planning, it appears to be that it will be removed. So the only entrance to the second floor will be to the right of the building. Okay,
thank you. Your
questions for this? Chairman,
I have a question.
I'm
looking at the architectural drawings of the second floor. I note that each of the apartments are pretty generous in size, especially two of them are right around 1200 square feet. We which you know, for apartments, that's actually pretty generous.
The one thing
that I found odd, we'll see things that I found on in the drawings is that each apartment appears to have just one bathroom. Is that correct? And it's a rather
go ahead.
For that, yeah,
you can just get correct two bedrooms. I really, I'm building a three bedroom, then I will put a two bath or bath and a half. I typically do one bath for two bedrooms. Okay,
all right. And then the
other thing that I noticed that that seemed odd to me is that the living or the community areas, or that the living spaces for each of the apartments have almost no windows.
I mean, the one unit
I don't know if that's the corner of the room the building, which is it's about it's almost 1200 square feet, literally has one window or a living room dining room Kitchen, there's there's one window so to me that would seem like a very dark space. And the other 1200 square foot apartment has two windows to be shared between the living room dining room, kitchen and I just as a tenant We find that very strange, very dark and unknown. Learning.
I guess there is really no other choice or we cannot put any windows on that wall that is right on the property lines on both local and global extra lines inside and out of the apartment.
Is that wall? Is that a shared Walton with another another business?
No, that is a wall that is would have to ask Mark when he comes up? I'm not really sure what you want to pull that wall but I wouldn't put any windows there based on the fire.
Reason.
Okay. All right.
Thank you know,
your questions for sending me questions, Sherman.
Thank you. So my question to the applicant, as we heard from your planner that you were proposing to put in the lease that people could only have one car? Could you elaborate on that?
One parking SRA on site? Correct.
So you're going to put in the lease that they would be permitted to have one allocated parking spot, not that you would prohibit renting to people that have more than one car?
That right?
No, I'm not running any space or there's going to be there's going to be three parking spots assigned because three apartments upstairs in the balance of the parking spaces will be for people that come and visit or the karate school.
Right. And when I heard from your planner was that you were going to put in the lease that they were that you would only rent to people that had one
car. I guess
I'm not gonna read it because they have one car I'm gonna put in my lease that they have one course.
On baclofen.
Thank you. That's, that sounds more logical to me. I just wanted to make sure some of discriminatory to prevent someone
buying a car
they want to understand not providing. Okay, thank you.
You're welcome.
Sorry, one more question. Well, maybe it's for the architect that Why are you taking down the rear stairs seems like that would be helpful, or an egress
embodied in part one as your read your word. That's why I think we're spiritual in the system, other units, and that's why we're able to do what we're doing now.
Thank you. Thank you.
Anyone else?
who are experts have any questions for Mr. Stanton?
Any member of the public have a question for Mr.
Nolan. Thank you, Mr.
Chairman, I
would call our
next witness or architect Madden's. Okay.
Mr. Evans, Do you swear the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. just state your name for the record.
Matthew Evans.
Thank you.
Just a few quick questions to qualify Mr. Reynolds. What is your business address and what's your occupation?
Okay, I'm an architect. My business address is 470. Chamberlain, Paterson, New Jersey.
And how long have you been practicing in the field of architecture?
Since 1995?
And who What school did you graduate? And what degree Did
you obtain? I got my master's in architecture from NJIT.
And a licensed architect in the state of New Jersey. Yes. testified many times before zoning and planning boards in the state of New Jersey.
Yes, throughout this board and other boards in Essex County and say, Oregon,
New Jersey, and you're accepted as an expert witness on each and every occasion.
Yes,
Mr. Chairman, I would move qualified mountains as an expert in the field of architecture. Any discussion board?
board will accept Mr. Evans as an expert in architecture. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Evans,
if you want me share the screen. Let me just
hold on let me just make sure Oh, hold on, hold on. Multiple participants. Okay.
Thank you. Okay. This
proposed project?
Yes.
Would you please describe the existing condition of the site?
Okay,
let me go to the first page, the first page sheet, as one data 10, eight, revised to 10 820. We have the cyclone site details, and we have the show notes, elevations of the building. And also some site details. As I mentioned, the building is at the intersection of Salter and Franklin. It's a two storey masonry structure. And it has parking head on parking right up of psalter versus a pre existing condition. That would be the the essence of the site. The vino addition to the building would all be internal adaptive reuse of the second floor, the first floor would remain. And in essence, the basically the footprint of the building would remain. And we would be restriping those parking spaces to to meet the requirements of rsis. And also having a handicap spot to accommodate barrier free
transmission, describe the proposed improvements to the second floor
and describe the floor plans and the square footage of the proposed apartments on the second floor.
Okay, so we have our second sheet is a one to the proposed second floor panels a little bit here.
So we have me go to the when we go to the existing. So the existing second floor plan shows basically office area for open office area two bathrooms, then there's a full bathroom of a private office and the rear stair and a front stair, the proposed second floor, we would be subdividing that space into three, two bedroom units. And they vary in square footage from 858 square feet to 1200 18 square feet launches second place this sense I have a message from this tall over she's waiting to read.
I got them. All right.
I got it, man. Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm sorry. Please proceed, Mr. Evans. Okay, so we shaded some of these units to give you define these the outline of these spaces, we have the main stair coming up, we have a central corridor that accesses all three apartments, the apartments would all have separate mechanicals laundry facilities, full open kitchen, dining living areas, and two large bedrooms for each unit. Based on the code, this would be under UCC and also the international building code. This would be three units. And under three or under, we don't need to meet the barrier free criteria for elevators, or accessibility facility three units. And also, basically being a two storey building, we would be changing the use of the second floor. And that would require us to sprinkler the second floor based on more intensive use of residential. And therefore protecting with fire suppression through the code also allows us to have one stare if we meet the criteria for egress, which would be egress windows for the bedrooms, and sprinklers and also fire protection, fire rated construction. So that allows us to configure the building for the second floor display.
Some instructions just to answer a question from the keyboard with regard to the windows that are provided in your design, were we able to design your windows into this design, or is this ultimately what we're stuck with because of the configuration of the building as it exists?
Well, we we I tried to situate some of the utility areas and some of the non essential our living space away from the windows. So as you can see in the 1200 and 18 square foot, we added to Windows, and we have the existing windows. So we have large windows for the living, dining area and not so much natural life for the kitchen. All the bedrooms have Windows, and they would all have egress windows. But no, we also added a window for the two bedroom unit 858 square foot unit along the Psalter side, for the bedroom and living room. Now, with the exception of the 1100 97 square foot one, we have one window for the living space, we could add another window for that, um, I just, I didn't do anything because I want to keep the rhythm of the the second floor rhythm of the windows intact. And you know, along the street, the main street, we could add a skylight, if needed, we can always add a couple skylights to add natural light, because it does allow to have artificial light if it needs a certain foot candle for the living and spaces. So we could accommodate that. And also ventilation would be provided by mechanical ventilation. So if we meet mechanical ventilation and artificial light criteria, we could meet the code in that way, also
known as tremens, we were
part of the development process here. So we can be able to create four units here that were smaller units, but I think our design criteria was to create larger units. Is that correct?
Right. And as was mentioned before, the as you see on the top of the the floorplan is basically the party or the the exterior very well, which is on the property line. If you're a Windows like grandfathered in for that we could use those windows, but we can't punch new windows in that because it's a zero lot line condition. And we're not able to put windows on that side. So that inhibited some of the design. And they they very they're nice size apartments, the nice size bedrooms, and, you know, over kitchen living area. And I think it's we saw, you know the layout pretty well for that second floor with these three apartments.
john smith described the vehicular ingress and egress as well as the parking in greater detail. Okay, go back to the last one she basically the site
is existing the footprint is existing, as I mentioned, and the parking, basically its head on the parking lot of Salter was a preexisting condition with the be remain and improve. There's an existing access to her overhead door for the garage, which was probably utilized for when it was a different use previously, but now it's just the owners maintenance storage area, which he would coordinate with one of the tenants if they needed to access that, but predominantly, it would just be just access through there they wouldn't be loading and unloading, as previously was designed for we provide for a four by eight refuse enclosure, we show the detail for that, that would be adjacent to the the left side or the northerly side of the lot. That would also yet also have a utility pole that would inhibit another parking spot there. So it's a good trade off for the refuse and the parking in that section of the site.
Trouble describing the existing drainage on the property and are there any changes proposed the drainage for the site.
So basically the site is 100% impervious coverage, the existing drainage would remain there's no new increase in impervious area that would negatively impact the existing drainage patterns to the Franklin or salt or the neighbors. So that would not change. pace application. Good no negative impact.
strokes, identical moments go over
the report of Antony Marunouchi, dated September one. So I'm going to start at page two comments and recommendations. xylocaine area for refuse recycling materials seems to be shown on the plans and properly screen, which describes how the plans were revised to show the refuse area, and how refuse and recycling will be handled at the site. Okay,
so basically, what we were showing a that we submitted was the updated plans based on the engineer's report. And I believe we satisfied some of those concerns. I don't know if there was a new report done, but we show the DC area and address that, as I mentioned in the previous testimony
will become this chairman. This is our rocker moochie. With rich engineering. We did actually issue a follow up report. I don't know if you have that. From November 9,
I email. I email that out to everyone.
So because I know, we acknowledge that the the refuse was shown on the plans. I just wanted to bring that up. So Mr.
Joshi, the applicant doesn't have that plan. So would you do me a favor and just go through whatever your concerns are? And Mr. Evans could answer those insurance through comments.
What? What, like, you're on mute, Mike.
It's weird. Our
rock, raise your right hand. Do you swear the testimony about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? That Hey,
welcome Ruchi with that represent interchanging in here. As we take, Anthony, my father and I issue a updated review dated November 9 2020. And most of our Courtney acknowledged the plan revisions, we acknowledge the recommendations in our report and appeal, what has been changed the report, the only thing I didn't want to bring up. As far as the refuse, we acknowledge that the wreckage is added. We do have one suggestion currently in the location that you have it, you have it basically notes in front of the property to the front yard. Our suggestion was to maybe slide back, I believe there's an existing fence lined up with the front of the building. My suggestion is to slide back, you know, along the side of the building, so it's out of the front of the property. I mean, I'll go to my report later, but everything else seems to address that you guys can go forward with your testimony. Okay, thank you.
Magnus renders alone has not been provided. Could you tell us what the new lighting is going to be proposed to the site? Okay, so
we didn't show any lighting on the original plan. But we addressed that by showing the existing as an existing pole mounted site lighting at the intersection of Franklin and Salter that would remain and then we've enhanced this site alone psalter with basically wolf packs, which would be LED lighting along the parking area. So we've covered that whole side with four wall mounted lights
this trend has just fastly recovered most of the comments within this review letter, but it is recommended any deteriorated sidewalks and driveway burns shall be repaired per attachment near direction. How are we going to address them?
Okay, we
added a note on our plan also. The notes next to the Franklin Street demarkation says replace all damaged broken missing curving apron, and sidewalks as required. And then we added the details for those the curving sidewalks and aprons. And that would basically be for all the footage of the proposed site that needed to be addressed a little Franklin itself.
We've also received a review letter from the planner, the Swain group
dated November 6, but I think most of those items are repetitive with the engineering review letter. Obviously some have been addressed by our project plan appear stack. So I wouldn't ask you to go over them directly but should the board Word or the plan or have any questions I would ask that they ask Mr. Evans directly. No further questions and Miss runs this time.
For questions for Mr. Evans,
Mr. Robbins, can
you unshare the screen?
Sure.
Thank you.
Second
take john.
is the chairman is none other board members have a question I do
that Mr. Fisher?
Yes.
Go ahead.
Um,
do you wanna
eliminate the screenshare? Yes.
More detail about the the curb and sidewalk improvements. I guess it's the on the softer place. frontage. They're part of it is asphalt part of it is concrete, some of its slate curb. White is the plan for those improvements. Are
you looking to replace it and shining?
materials? on on the Psalter place side of the building? They're about half of the front end is concrete all the way to the curb. The other half is false and concrete. Are you proposing to leave that the same? Are there going to be any changes that how that presented that's going to be
done? That's all going to be new park great.
To see you before you speak, you have to identify yourself knows who's speaking. I'm sorry.
Can you stand up? That's all going to be repaired. That's all going to be brand new, that was dug up by the water company and never repaired as some water issue there on the past revolve around the walkways and new asphalt
on the parking area.
Okay, and one other question. Just to confirm, I think you covered all the other items in my report? Is anything changing after your corner assaulter and find one that might impair sight lines? Are you proposing anything different than when something now? Well,
the only difference is that handicaps
at the corner would
gives you a little bit extra buffer on the intersection. So the first parking spaces the setback a feet from the intersection allows a little more circulate, you know, flexibility for the people rounded the corner.
That's all I have, Mr. Chairman.
Anyone else? I
yes. Jim
McGee. And then George has this
morning regarding the light on soldier place into back of the building. There's I can call it an alleyway and it says block wall and that's going downstairs to the basement. And you consideration for lighting there that area?
Yes, we can put a couple lights along the along the side of the building no side of the building. And we're that block
wall is and that's the stairs that go down into the basement area. Yes. Okay, that basically is not used for the karate school because on the plan.
You have
it says karate school on it.
Right.
And then we'd also be moving the, as mentioned by the engineer, we could move that refuse area back into that, behind that fence. Also. Mr. Williams had a question.
Yes. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good evening. Mr. Evans. How
are you? Well,
well, quick question eight on this round.
Would you agree with Mr. spex
calculation of the density? Yeah, I
would. I would agree with that.
Thank you.
Questions?
Is there any member of the public who has a question
Mr. Puno?
just raising his hand?
Take your phone off. Your computer. You're on?
He's working on you.
Okay. Okay. I have a question for the architect. Is it a laptop right now? The roping is flat? Yes. Okay. And I'm just wondering, you're still under warranty or you don't think you need to know anything about it?
I don't know. I didn't check the roof. But the owner applicant might be able to give a little bit of insight on on the condition of the roof.
Mr. Chairman,
I
have a question for our planner, Mr. Williams.
Well, he hasn't given his
testimony yet. Okay. I'm sorry. Hold on to that. Yep. All the way.
Any other questions for Mr. Evans?
Any member public?
Nobody's hands are No,
thank you. Mr. Evans. Thank you.
Mr. Chairman. I have no further witnesses.
If we need to call back, Peter, step back and try that if we want to hear from him again. Other than that, that's the bad news testimonial. All right, we'll start with our experts.
Say, Mr.
Ruchi. Did
you have anything to add?
I think everything in our court was, was addressed and testified testimony was provided. Like I said, I think, you know, was already acknowledged the refuse container should be removed. And I believe it was already brought up by Mr. Kissinger regarding the sidewalks and driveways that would be new, concrete aprons. And according to the details on that I have no further regime comments.
anyone have a question for Mr. maroochy. And a member of the public have a question for Mr. merchant. No, thank you, Mr. Murphy. Mr. Kissinger, your swearing please
raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do. just state your name for the record.
Joseph singer with MD fine.
Thank you.
Most of my comments have been addressed with regards to the site plan. As from a traffic perspective, as a free apartments doesn't generate a lot of trips. It's more of a parking issue. When I went out and visited the site and on beta during the COVID, there is you can see in the shopping center across the street, there is a definitive line of where people go into the grocery store apart and people are using the adjacent businesses park that row of parking right along Franklin Street is full and then there's a big gap to the shopping center. So even though there are signs out there saying that you'll be towed if you park there, people are doing it today. Overall, I think they're doing the best they can with the site as it is. The testimony heard from Mr. sec is correct. If this was a fully occupied commercial use, it would need more parking than it does now. So other than that, I think they've addressed all of my concerns.
Any questions for Mr. Fisher?
Remember the public?
I hear no one. Thank
you very much, sir.
That brings up
the cleaning up,
George George. Oh, yeah. lose again. Oh, gee, I'm sorry.
I was I thought I lost somebody. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? And most certainly do stay for the record, please.
Thank you.
Good evening. We're executive secretary commissioners. My name is George Williams with initially in group serving as a board planner. Okay.
So can you give us the benefit of your analysis, please?
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a bit of housekeeping very quickly. For the record, I have worked with the applicant, but I am not under any contract with the applicant or by another contract with the applicant for the past couple of years, but I did want to disclose That. The other bit of housekeeping is that our report references a density or I'm sorry, a conditional use deviation pertaining to density. But we did discuss that with Mr. Lucci prior to the hearing and just neglected submit a clean copy of our report, eliminating that deviation from the conditional use standards. I would agree with both the testimony of Mr. Stack and Mr. Evans, that it's not required. It is listed, however, in the statement of applicant intent and relief requested. So that should be reconciled for the record. I would also agree with Mr. Fisher about Mr. Sticks testimony pertaining in large part to the parking deviation, as well as the impervious coverage. deviations. Well, the covenant tree standards do apply for this d3, conditional use request or conditional use variance requests are a bit different than those of the D one used bearers and the suspect testified. The enhanced burden of proof is not required, your duty or suitability is not required. The test is really the deviation from the conditional use theatres, can it be accommodated by sight? And I think what you've heard from several witnesses, Mr. Stack and Mr. Evans, and confirmed by Mr. Kissinger's was it pertains to parking. Or typically, if there is a lease arrangement with tenants or more importantly, what's being proposed would be less than the parking requirement if the second floor continued as a commercial use. I also note that the board might consider some conditions of approval, if they are feasible, as they pertain to lighting, interior lighting, whether through additional fenestration and or skylights. And last but not least, I note that there are no object versus application. And that goes to to the Mr. Stokes testimony about the negative pressure.
So that's it for me today.
But I'm available to answer questions. And I know, one of the commissioners did have a question.
Okay, thank you, Mr. Williams. I
think Mr.
Johnson had a question.
I get
to Williams did actually touch on one of the points that I wanted to address that is on actual lighting, especially were concerned, front apartments along Franklin Street. Are those just one window to illuminate the entire common area? I find that very odd. And as a tenant, I will probably not rent that apartments. I'm just wondering what would be your recommendations in terms of I've looked at the front of the street side wall there. It looks like a second window could accommodate it could be punched into the front of the building. I'm amenable to other suggestions as well.
Good question. I was kind of piggybacking on your comments. I may defer a bit to Mr. Marunouchi, but certainly the offering from Mr. Evans as to breath sky lighting work would make sense just in terms of better amenities for the tenants and providing adequate light and air for this tenant. So either way.
ngdp thoughts on that?
idea. Additional windows reset on the side.
You're on here? Yeah.
The front. The thoughts? The thoughts? Yeah. I mean, I don't see why you couldn't do it. You know.
I guess I would have to defer to the architect and the architecture of the building. But I tend to agree. I think, you know, it's a good suggestion. For more natural lighting. Okay.
I was on mute, I say if we wish to have more natural lighting needs to Determine what the applicant is able and willing to do and what we could put into a resolution that quantifies This
includes his testimony, but I would ask at this point that we could call our architect back Matt Evans and see if he can answer this question. The apnea will certainly be amenable to adding skylights to the first two apartments with regard to Windows and might be a little more difficult, but I think it's better for the architect to finally can call him back.
Phil, is
Australia's Juris
Doctor. Sure.
So yes, we can, we can add skylights. And we can also add a window as I mentioned, along
the main street, I was would like to keep the the the the existing architectural elements on that Franklin Street facade. That's why I didn't really adjust it too much. But skylights would would definitely add some nice natural light to the space. And we will have more mechanical, mechanical units for each unit. So they would have fresh air and makeup and the requirements would be met through that. So we can do that. If the board sees fit.
Um, I don't I don't see Mr. Johnson. I don't know if we lost him.
Oh, they're here he comes back. Oh, there he is. Okay. Sorry, Mr. Johnson. We lost you there for a minute. I don't know if you've heard. Okay.
Unfortunately, my Wi Fi is cutting in and out. Okay.
I don't know if you heard Mr. Evans's answer. No, you did it. Okay. So I'm gonna
just repeat that one more time for the record.
Okay. Basically, we wanted to keep the windows of Franklin Street intact. That's why we just did the cemetery and the rear elevation to add Windows as needed. But we can add skylights to the main living spaces to add a little more extra light, natural light to those units.
And not just to clarify, as for the front, two apartments that front on Franklin Street,
was the Yes, the front apartment on Franklin Street. I believe that we see a split second. Yes. So the other one, the front door, there's only one apartment on Franklin Street. So that would just be the living area. That would be accommodated. So we can either add another window, which I'd rather not do. But we could add a skylight for that. You know, and then as you go into the near the dining room area for natural light in there. And the same with the other the rear view, we can do that to
Mr. Chairman, that that would I'd like to include that as a recommendation or a condition to add skylights to the living area in both of those. Yes. All right.
So enough for your resolution. Mr. Reuben.
I have no problem with that. I could
wonder where we
advance. So the wiring issue. And Mr. Williams of speaking I believe I'm not mistaken.
I thought Mr. Williams was done. I don't know. Is unmuting Yes, I
was done.
Thank you. I
was tracking where we are who's we're asking questions. Mr. Williams. Is that right?
We were and then it just turned out. Mr. Williams said maybe the architect could better answer that. And that's where we'd like
to hear back from Mr. Williams grill grilling, Mr. Mulliner. Other questions for Mr. Williams? Is there any member of the public with a question for Mr. Williams?
I don't see anybody raising their hand. On the screen now.
No one else.
Mr. Williams,
maybe practice have answered this already. But I'll ask again. From a planning perspective, what do you see about the solution to the parking issue? Do you think it's been addressed the best that can be?
adequate adequately?
Yes, Mr. Chairman, and I attempted to answer this earlier, perhaps not as articulately as I should have I was persuaded by this two step test planning testimony about the parking relief, particularly as he spoke about the proposed parking supply or demand being almost half of what would be required. If the second floor were to remain office space. The fact that if the only way to actually meet the required parking would be to remove the building on this site. And last but not least, the lease agreement with tenants for the second floor, requiring to be only one parking space on site. So for those reasons I and and based on the sufficient jurors, testimony, I think the parking proves were satisfactory.
Thank you, Mr.
Williams. Any other questions for Mr.
Gary? No one. Thank you very much. Mr. Williams.
Thank you.
Is there any member of the public who wishes to be
Mr. Johnson trying to come on again, there is
make a statement.
I don't see anybody on the screen.
Here any member of the public who wishes to be sworn in? I hear her say no one or more always
have the opportunity to summarize if you wish, and the chairman has a few brief final words for the application. As you've heard, the app is before the board tonight Seaton preliminary and final major site plan approval, conditional use variants and evoke parents for existing impervious coverage to convert the second story of an existing two story building from its current office used to 3d two bedroom residential dwelling units. Although the present applicant is on the property for less than a year, the second storey office space was vacant at the time that he purchased and has been vacant for some time prior prompting desire to convert the second floor to residential units. And while the need for office space has been diminished over the past few years to kind of make it more difficult to rent office space while at the same time making residential housing. in areas like Bloomfield old more desirable, despite not making the parking requirements for the conditional use, converting the second storey from office used for residential use results in a net decrease of the required parking spaces as well as reduction in the anticipated turnover of those parking spaces. A less intense use. And a new parking configuration will provide an ADA compliant space, as well as properly delineating parking spaces in addition to new sidewalks and curbing as required by the township engineer. In addition, or street overnight parking is allowed on Franklin Street in front of the property. And there is some potential for overflow parking and the commercial lot across the street. As to the fire safety concerns, the second story of the building will be fully sprinklered. And egress Windows will be installed to meet the second means of egress requirement for this proposed second storey dwelling units. We've heard some concerns of the board. Specifically with regard to additional walpack lighting to be provided at the lower level, the applicant is certainly willing to do that. In addition, we've heard some comments from the board experts with regards to moving the refuse area out of the front yard. We're happy to do that, in addition to providing concrete aprons, we've provided those details on the plans on the revised plan. We're happy to do that as well. Last, we've heard a concern with regard to adding some skylights for natural lighting for the one front apartment on Franklin Street and also to the apartment to the rear unit. Yeah. And is happy to do that
as well.
On the basis of the
testimony
and the plans presented to the Board. I believe sufficient proofs have been provided to justify the granting the variance is an issue. And I respectfully ask that the board grant the application before it tonight. I thank the board very much for this time. And I appreciate your attention.
Thank you. Time for public hearing
has ended.
discussion
has begun board or would like to begin the discussion.
Was there any mention of any signage going on? What about for the parking on site parking movie signs there?
a public hearing closed? Would
you like me to reopen again? Yeah.
Yes,
reopen the public hearing.
Mr. Chairman, I
can have my applicant testify to that. I can tell you that the proposal For the three parking spaces that are going to be designated to the apartment units to be designated, and there to be some signage stating that no one is allowed to park there have unauthorized use of the site. But I would ask Dimitri sanzu to explain that to the board.
Yeah, we're gonna put up signs for the three parking spots the apartments, and that they're only used for the apartments. And that's it. So yes, we are going to have signs up to the
parking spaces.
Is there going to be any signage on the building of saying, you know, Franklin apartments or anything like that? Or
I'm going to name the unit that by name the unit, one a two to a three video be parking reserved for apartment a, one a or will be towed? by your own expense or owner? Okay, what
about any signage, let's say on Franklin Street, same, any, any apartments up above or advertising sign for the karate school? below?
I can put a sign
there
saying no. Parking only for the building. Question, I
believe, to clarify is more towards will there be any new signage on the building designating the units? All right.
For the commercial down below?
No, they're their final stain, whatever they have there. That's what we're not doing.
And looking at the front of the building and the side of the building where the entrances are for the school and for the pumps. any consideration for any type of coverage warning or something like that.
The only way you want to take a whoring Ah, you probably put a warning on maybe the main entrance door, that kind of thing. But the front, you can't put it on because the doors recessed in. So it's a it's like an orange. Okay. All right.
I'm trying to get everything I can now.
Right. And
also, there was a mention about mechanical ventilation. Could you help me out on that? What was the any outcome on that? And that was mentioned, along with the aim of skylights? That was the editor one.
That's I guess, you have to ask my architect. But that's I think that's something to do with the the system that we're putting in the APA. We're circulates here.
Okay, so that. That's ventilation. So
all of our units that we're installing are hdhp. Thank you. That's it. No pun. Thank you.
Remember something I forgot.
public hearing is closed for discussion.
Mr. Chairman.
Thank you. I like this project. I think that it's attractively done it the other considerations that we already talked about with skylights and pushing the breakfast to the back and those kind of considerations have already discuss. I think that it solves a problem for housing, which is In short, the blind will build time as a variety of apartment sizes. They're very attractive, like the sky lights will make them more so. And I think they've mitigated the parking problem to my satisfaction, so I would vote to approve this.
All right, thank you. Who else?
Mr. Chairman, if I may go ahead with Miss Brown's
comments.
Think that, for the most part that project is has direct benefits to the community. I also know that at your building is about five blocks from a train station. And so there are certainly our amenities there in terms of transportation, and logistics for the chance. And I think that the developer, excuse me, the applicant has been pretty amenable to agreeing to the conditions that we've set forth. So I only favor this project.
All right, thank you, Mr. Johnson. Anyone else? Anyone else wish to join the discussion? I concur with my colleagues who have expressed their opinion and I'll say that will entertain motion please.
Mr. Chairman, I will make a motion that we approve this project with conditions. And unfortunately I can't list them all of your biggest assistance there.
stylize intuitiveness rights.
Trash man,
this area, right.
Improve the sidewalks curving and
aprons.
I believe that was that
signage to identify the individual spaces reserved for the three tents that will have spaces
and the lighting, lighting lighting or
something in the corner. Mr. Baumann, you bring that up? Our somebody brought it up lighting?
Oh, yes.
Agreed, Mr. Chairman. So that's
Yes. With those conditions, I would prove this project or goodness application.
Is there a second? I'll second. Mr. Bell, Nikki seconds.
Please call the wardens consent. Okay.
Okay, Mr. Johnson. Yes, Mr. Price. Yes, Mr. Bell, Nikki. Yes, Miss Bran. Yes. Mr. Oliver.
Yes. Mr. Stivers?
Mr. Stivers?
You're on mute.
Thank you, Chairman. Michalski.
Yes, application is approved.
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. We appreciate your time.
Thank you. You will be safe.
Is there any other business evening board? No,
I want a motion to adjourn.
All the moves are second.
I'll second.
Mr. Bell. 90 seconds. All in favor, please
say aye.
Anyone opposed?
There were no one opposed. We are adjourned.
Have a good night everybody.
They're
nice.
First application was the germs. This didn't really form