Welcome to Just Curious Media. This is Let's Talk - Cobra Kai. I'm Jason Connell, documentary filmmaker turned podcaster.
And I'm Sal Rodriguez, comedian and toy collector.
Very nice. It's good to be back. This is Episode Six, quiver 8.7 rating on IMDb. And a pretty good episode I might add,
and we learn something right off the bat about the definition of the word quiver. We know like arrows in a quiver or shivering from the cold quiver, right, but we learn that quiver is also a group of cobras, correct. I never knew that before.
The episode begins with one of my favorite things from the 80s a Sony Walkman. And not just any Sony Walkman. This is the FM am auto reverse Walkman.
I think I had one of those, I believe we all had one of those. By the way. I always preferred cassettes. I was in high school, when CD started coming out. And my friend Albert, my best friend at the time, was into collecting CDs, which were new, and I was still about the cassette. So we would go out and get music. We wouldn't buy it. But that's another story. And he was all about the CDs and I'm still getting cassettes. So this was that in between where CDs were coming in and cassettes were going out. But I've always been about cassettes. Unfortunately, in high school, I should have gotten the CDs. But instead I was still in in the cassettes. After high school, I had all these old cassettes I still needed to get rid of
while I'm a couple years older than you so I was into eight tracks. Whoa, not just kidding. I was really young when eight tracks happened. I was into cassettes as well, but my father was really into this incredible stereo system that he had put together. And what he taught me to do was go buy the record. So I would go to sound warehouse in Oklahoma and Tulsa, Oklahoma. And I would get like my Hall and Oates records or my Jay Geils Band, and go home and then create my own tapes, which also had me creating my own mixtapes at a young age.
Did you give those to any girls?
I tried to.
But there's something so satisfying about the sound of that cassette popping into the Walkman. And then you close the lid that today's mp3 players or iPhones just you don't get that satisfaction.
Well, I think even one step further. The needle on the record. Oh, but it's a huge investment. My father has 1000s of records to this day. And if you move forget about it. Yeah, I downsized years ago and got rid of all my CDs have gone straight digital.
Wait, did you digitize all your music? Oh, yes. I tried to digitize my music. It was so tedious. I probably stopped after about 20 or 30 CDs.
They didn't make it very far. Unless you're collections of 30.
But back when your dad was collecting albums that was back when the home stereo was a piece of that was it? Yeah, it was a fixture? Yeah, it was practically a piece of furniture. Yeah, that
was a different time. But anyway, I appreciated seeing this Walkman and Johnny's hands and he puts on a great song from the 80s Boston's
Don't look back, okay, that was gonna ask you who that was. I know he sounded familiar.
And so he's riding his bike. It's 1979. He's living in the Encino hills. And it's kind of an homage to the opening of Caddyshack. If you remember that film that Danny Noonan's go into the nice neighborhood on the way to work. And he's also wearing a red shirt. I was reminiscent of that. So I'm sure that that had something to do with the style. But where does he wind up? So he
is on his bicycle riding around. stumbles upon the original Cobra Kai dojo, he also notices a couple of motorcycles. That's probably when he developed his love of motorcycles in that moment, as well. In fact, now that I think about it, I don't know why he doesn't have a motorcycle today. Good point. But yeah, young Johnny listening to his Walkman, looks inside sees crease teaching the class. And that's when you realize is young Gianni introduced to the original Cobra Kai, a pivotal historical moment.
Great sing. And obviously that does become his future. And they don't really show crease. It's Chris's voice and there's like the back shot of him. This is going way back in time. And there's lots of students that are lined up. Yeah. So Cobra Kai is already a hit in the valley.
In fact, I wonder who was the Johnny of Cobra Kai at that time? There's so many avenues that you can explore here.
Oh, who's winning the all Valley 18 back then. Yeah, these are prequels.
They can go so many places with this.
So essentially, who was the bully of the early 1980s? Pre Johnny?
Well, that's an interesting point. I mean, in the original Karate Kid, weren't they fighting over Ali originally? Did Cobra Kai really go around bullying people? Or was it particularly Danila Russo who they were after
the pie was another Jonny at some point in time. And maybe or maybe not they were bullies, but if anything ever came up, they would be a pack of Cobras. They would be a quiver, a quiver, so I'm sure it happened. So especially with Chris's leadership,
yeah, his personality. He's the kind of person that would kind of endorse and encourage bullying.
Absolutely. So now we cut to Johnny, who is about to face his students for the first time.
Well, this is where you also see the difference in who the students are. Present day Cobra Kai, versus who the students were back when Johnny discovered Cobra Kai here, right? This
is a series of misfits Yes. Yeah. It
doesn't call them nerds and geeks. Yeah. Johnny comes down like
a drill sergeant out of Full Metal Jacket. Yeah. Be little in all of his underlings and taking shots at them to see what they can handle bullying. Um, essentially,
I think we're learning though, that he's doing this to toughen them up. That's the idea. Yes, he wants to toughen them up. But in the process, he loses some people.
He's also learning his way he's never taught before. Yeah. Besides Miguel, and he was taught by crease. So although he's not crease, we know he's got more of a genuine heart. He's not grown into becoming a sensei.
Nobody taught him how to be a sensei. And he
probably didn't have the greatest father, which we come to find out. And we alluded to in earlier episodes with his older stepfather played by Ed Asner. Alright, so now we see in the mix of all of these other students, Demetri and Eli.
Yeah, well, they joined because they saw their buddy Miguel, kick so much ass in the video. Totally. Yeah, so that was their inspiration.
Well, Dimitri is like one foot in one foot out, where Eli seems a little more open to it.
In fact, they go through a little thing, like why are we here? Right? Particularly Dimitri, right?
Yes. I kind of like his personality, though. He's very sarcastic. Yes. So Johnny sizing everyone up, take some cheap shots. Like felt like a virgin looking at one of his students. Yes. Another one. He makes fun of a fat guy with a funny shirt with his TED spot. Yeah. Johnny has got some pretty good one liners. Yeah, he is pretty fun. And so now we intercut this with Daniel who is training in his dojo?
Well, it's sort of a counterbalance, as you mentioned, I think on the last episode, is that we have Johnny with students, and we see Daniels sort of kind of trying to get some students, you know, unofficially. He wants to teach somebody karate. He wants to take somebody under his wing. Nobody's taking the bait. It's
an ongoing thing. This whole episode is Daniels recruitment, to have someone in his dojo. So now Sam, is online searching Miguel, and an image pops up. And what is on this image?
That's the picture of the girl with like, 10 hotdogs in her mouth. Poor taste. Yeah, because it's all based on a lie. It's all based on the lie that she gave Kyler a blow job at the movie theater, which is not true.
And after he was beaten up in front of everybody along with his other buddies, you would have thought this rumor would have died.
If anything, he's probably trying to make it stronger.
I think this probably came from Yasmin and Company. Oh,
I hate those girls. I mean, we'll see if they do some sort of character arc, but they're pretty much horrible people very
reminiscent of the movie Mean Girls are Heather's Yes. Okay, so Daniel enters and ask Sam back into the dojo. And she's like, I haven't done that since I was eight. Then he mentioned and we learned that she's got a foot a fury. Well, you might be some foreshadowing that
might be foreshadowing Yes. She has quite a kick. Which we know her father has a kick from the car dealership, Boba scene or the crane, or Hello, the original crane and karate kid. Yeah. So her father has kicks.
The bloodline is strong with these two.
And then Daniel tries to get his wife to do correct.
That's right. So Daniel takes this defeat on the chin. Ask Amanda if she wants to practice karate. And then we learned that the last time they rolled around on the karate Matt and Anthony happened.
Yeah. Which is pretty funny. Yeah, that's, that's where that training session
was their 10 year old son, 11 year old son somewhere in that range. So he's striker to Daniel cannot recruit anyone for his practicing. Which leads us to him asking Anthony. And, again, denied.
I could have told him
Anthony's playing like a karate game on his phone, but as zero interest and learning actual karate. Yep. So strike three. Daniel has failed with the entire family. None of them want to practice karate. No. So now we cut to Robbie and he has his brand new LORUSSO auto shirt, and he's getting ready for his first day on the job.
He's looking pretty sharp.
It looks pretty good. Yeah. And who shows up but his hooligan friends
they come right in they start eating the cereal and they want to invite him to go rip off an Amazon truck right that was their plan are these
guys Yeah, punk kids. So we learn why Robbie is taking this job. And it's to upset his father Johnny to work for his arch nemesis Daniel.
It goes back to jealousy right because he was jealous of Johnny giving a hug to Miguel that tender moment. He was jealous. So now he's doing something to make his father jealous already thinks will make his father jealous. Yeah, it
was definitely out of spite to Dr. His resume, which he did in the previous episode. And take this job. Yeah. Now we're back at the Cobra Kai dojo. The gym is full. And Johnny calls Eli lip. Yeah. And Dimitri interrupts Yeah.
What does he say? Well, he's
just defending him. And Miguel is like, oh, you know? Yeah, me. I was like, Don't defend that Johnny explains that people have to rise up. Dimitri continues. So Johnny, challenges him, but calls Dimitri out and asked him to hit him. Yeah. And essentially embarrass his Demetri in front of everyone.
Yeah. He knocks him on the ground. Now does he sweep his leg is nobody does.
I don't think he swept his leg, but just knocks him down overpowers him. Yeah. Just to test him a little bit. Yeah. And Dimitri was barely vested in this adventure of becoming a Cobra Kai. Tears out of the studio. Yeah, he's gone. So now we're back at school. And Miguel is trying to talk Dimitri out of quitting.
Yeah. And Dimitri says up in like, what do we need to take karate for we have you? Yeah. And then Kyler comes around at that moment, right. Sees Miguel and Demetri and then turns the other way. And then Dimitri says, See, I don't need to take karate when I got you here.
Exactly. Which is kind of cool to see Cather back away, doesn't want to reengage at all, and he's bested the bully.
I really wanted that to be the end of Kyler. But we'll see what happens.
So now we're at LORUSSO, Otto. And Robbie's working away and kind of a working montage ensues.
Yeah, he's doing all kinds of tasks. He's delivering parts to the mechanics, he's setting up the coffee, just whatever it needs to get done. He's all over the place.
And I'm assuming he's skipping school still, because he's already told them he's graduated. And it's a school day?
Well, because you remember in that initial interview with Amanda, she says something like, Oh, why aren't you in college or something? And he's like, oh, I need to take a
year off. Yeah. Where does Robbie go to school? I do not know. I don't know if it's this school that everyone else goes to, or somewhere else because we've never seen Robbie in school.
At this point. I'm just kind of thinking Robbie is either expelled or just dropped out. Maybe.
Well, remember those other episodes? They're calling looking for him? But anyway, he's working. He's actually doing a good job. Yeah, he wants See, this
is where I start to think I don't really know what exactly is happening, because it seems like he's getting into his work, right? Maybe he's gonna make a turn. He's gonna get his paycheck. And you know, it was gonna take a different path, maybe away from his Hudlin friends, hopefully, yeah, that's what I'm kind of thinking at this moment. I don't know what to make of it.
So Daniel asked a newish one of his top sales guys to practice karate, his fourth person? Yeah, he's asked. And there's a whole funny sequence here. newish declines, but he's like, are you asking me as a friend or as an employer? Yeah. And so he's gonna back out either way. And he also makes a funny reference to how his weeknights are completely full because of this new South Asian dating app.
Yeah, so we know that one of Daniels employees is all over this dating app. He's too busy dating women to be messing around with karate with his boss.
Yeah, halftime. So Daniel accepts that and walks away defeated yet again. And now Anoosh and Louie Louie being Daniel's cousin. Yes, so works at the dealership. They're teasing Robbie, you know, it's new guy. It's innocent. And Louis tells him he's got to move one of the inside show vehicles because that's what Daniel wants.
Daniel likes to rotate the stock so why don't you take this Porsche and move it over there?
Exactly. So now we're in science class, and Samantha is made fun of with the Blow Pop. This thing won't end and he says get it Blow Pops. He does blow jobs haha. And Samantha is taking it in stride. Whatever. She needs a lab partner. Hers is out sick. And she joins Miguel and Demetri.
Yeah, so she becomes a third lab partner. They're gonna operate on pig embryos. I think
it was pretty gross, actually. Yeah, that's pretty good. There was an interesting moment. I don't know if you caught this or not. And I didn't catch it my first watch. But when I watched it for this episode, I saw it. When Samantha comes over to join them. She sort of inadvertently bumps to me. Yes, yes. And then he's smelling his arm. And yeah, I thought is it just his first encounter with a girl I
actually did notice that I've watched the episode twice. First time I didn't notice that second time. I did notice that and I guess he's never had a girl that close to him.
So now we're back at LORUSSO Otto and Robbie is in the showroom. And what happens?
He takes the bait by Louis gets in the Porsche turns it on. Revs it up in the middle of a busy showroom. Super loud. Yeah. And then Daniel Russo runs out. Yes. Hey, what the hell's going on here? Right. Robbie gets pissed walks out boy.
barest. Robbie's super embarrassed. Robbie's embarrassed. Yes, much like Daniel, and much like Johnny. He's got a hot temper. Yeah. And he runs off to quit.
Sure he walks out and then Daniel chases him outside. Yeah, cuz he
realizes that Louis put him up to it. And he's young, and he's a hard worker. And so he wants to make sure he doesn't just leave and he wants to retain him.
Yes, there's a nice little bonding moment outside with Daniel Russo. And Robbie.
I like when Daniel catches Robbie does first instinct is to put up as Dukes. Yeah. And he noticed is that when he puts his hands up to protect himself, because he doesn't know who's behind him, he has his thumbs inside of his fingers. Oh, that way. I didn't notice Daniel says he punched like that you're gonna hurt your finger, break your thumb, and shows him how to punch. Yeah, and I think right then in there, Daniel saw that maybe there's someone I could practice karate. Yeah, maybe. But he doesn't ask him right now.
Yeah, but interesting moment that Daniel Russo is giving tutelage and karate to Johnny son
who he doesn't know it's Johnny sounds, he doesn't know it. There's so many twists and turns. So now we're back in science class. And Sam is thanking Miguel for standing up for her.
This is I think the first official bonding moment between the two of them. Is it? Yeah, other than this
iContact. Yeah. But it was Miguel that stood up for her that he also had his own demons to deal with. Yes, Tyler. But that was the moment was standing up for her honor. And I like that. She says that he threw a nice roundhouse kick. But he telegraphed the sweep.
Yeah. So she actually gives them some instruction on his martial arts. And he's
impressed like, wow, she actually knows more than he does
at this point in time. At this moment. He doesn't know who she is, or who she's the daughter of does he know he doesn't
even know who Daniel is? Yeah, he doesn't know Daniel. He's impressive. There's this girl that knows about karate. Yeah. And technically more than him.
Yeah. So he doesn't know the entanglement of the LORUSSO Lawrence.
No, he has not seen Karate Kid. Alright, cut to the Cobra Kai dojo. And now the class has decreased in size.
Yeah, people are quitting. They don't like Johnny's methods. They don't like him, insulting them.
And so then Johnny says lip, and Eli tries to stand up for himself. Like, don't call me that. And underneath this breath, almost he says, Can we change the subject? Change the subject? And then he mentioned he might be in the spectrum. And what does Johnny say to that?
John is a I don't know what that is. But get off that pronto.
No, I'm not laughing at people on the spectrum. I just love how Johnny does his way in the world. That was a pretty funny saying. I don't know what that is. But get off of pronto. Yeah.
Where does Johnny been the last
35 shots. Yes. He's like Encino Man, he has been frozen for 30 years.
But this is where we learn the term flip the script in this episode, which will reveal itself again later. But he remember that flip the script.
So Johnny says it right now. He tells the light if you want to change the story, flip the script. Yeah, you want to be sad. Sorry about yourself fine, then you're gonna get picked on? Yep. You got to take control of the story. And control the narrative.
Yeah, so much is not just teaching these kids how to fight. It's teaching them how to stand up for themselves and how to make your way in the world and how not to be a target for bullies. Right. So it's not just about how to throw a punch. It's about getting the right mindset. And when he says, If you want to be tough on the outside, you got to be tough on the inside. Yep. So he's trying to grow these kids is what he's doing.
So ultimately, that scene ends with Eli walking out
just like Demetri Yeah, yeah. You just figured well, that's it. Another student gone.
Miguel sees the writing on the wall. And just asked us since a Johnny to be a little more understanding, it's a different time. Kids are more sensitive. He's got a bunch of geeks and misfits. And people in the class
are some of these losers are my friends. Maybe I'm a loser. And then he says something to Johnny. Like, you don't know what it's like to be like us. Right? And we learn that Johnny does actually.
Exactly. Now we're back at Lusso Otto and Louie apologizes to Robbie with Amanda there as well. Obviously, they had a talk and Louise on coffee cleanup duty. Yeah, he was demoted for the day to motive for the day to clean up things that Robin would typically handle. And Amanda gives Robbie his new shirt with his name on it.
Yeah, so he's officially part of the LORUSSO team now, and so
Louie wants to make further amends, and he tells Robbie, if he wants to get in better with Daniel to take him The Daily Report. Daniel likes an old school copy hand copy taken to his home every night. Yeah, and says it's on my desk. I don't want to do it. Don't do it. But if you want it, it's there for you. At this point. I think Louise being genuine with him. What do you think? Sure.
He says I'm trying to make amends is what he said.
Exactly. So Robbie accepts the challenge. He's gonna run the report to the LORUSSO house and maybe further bond him with Daniel they get along very well in the parking lot. Yeah, no harm can come out of this. So now it's kind of a cute moment. Miguel, son, Sam a funny video and they begin to chat online like
a little cute pig. Because remember in science class, they were dissecting the pig right So Miguel sends a cute little pig but with his voice like Why did you cut me open? I could have been bacon, you know, like a real cute moment. And then Samantha laughs
and I could see these two getting along. They're both very sweet characters. Yeah. Oh, no, he's not Kyler. So I think it's really cool that they're kind of bonding. And now Johnny's back in his apartment drinking coolers no less. And he does like it's old school bottle top.
Yeah, I've seen guys do it. I was never able to do that. I was never so much when I was young into beer that much. When I would go to parties in high school. A lot of guys would be drinking beers. And my friend and I will be smoking weed. Okay, so we were more weed people, but I would see the guys do that flipping of the beer.
I could do flip into the camera. Oh, yeah. So he was smoking weed when it was illegal. Oh, yeah.
Well, the interesting thing was when we were in high school, smoking weed. This was right before Cypress Hill came out. So we had a group of friends and they would laugh at Alberta and I ha ha. potheads stoners were drinking beer. After Cypress Hill came out all these friends that used to rip us about smoking weed. They're all smoking weed now, and I'm like, Oh, now you like weed because of Cypress Hill. Okay, well, I've been smoking weed
since so and that's where they kicked you in the face.
But no, I used to see guys do that beer bottle thing I
never did. I love seeing it in the episode was pretty funny.
It's such a throwback. In fact, I'm surprised he doesn't have the original hairstyle. Yeah, that's true. They
should bring back the feathered hair for him. And then what is Johnny pick up from the box that he tried to go sell at the pawn shop? Oh,
the Walkman with the cassette. And going back to the original scene in that episode. That is the Walkman that he used to listen to when he was on his bicycle. First discovering Cobra Kai.
And as soon as he picked it up, he goes back in time to young Johnny at the dinner table with a very young mother by the way. They're active. Yes, mother and older stepfather.
He's talking jazz about Oh, you want to be the next Bruce Lee?
He says first there was a drum set. And that was roller skates. And it was a magic kit. You wanted to be the next Doug Henning. Yes. And so you could tell that Johnny was trying to find his thing. But they signed off on him getting in karate.
The mother was supportive at the table. She seemed like a decent woman supportive of her son. Yes. Might have just married this guy for the lifestyle that he can provide for her and her son. Exactly that. Yeah. She seems like a devoted mother.
And you can tell from that moment as well that Chris became his father figure.
Yes. That's where you see that he has no father figure. So Chris would be the closest thing to a father figure. Exactly. Basically, you see a stepdads a mean guy. He does say something about Lorimar. Remember that? He says, Oh, I had to tell him who was in charge of Lorimar was not an old studio or something. Yeah, maybe. So I think they alluded to his stepdad late by Ed Asner was some studio head at some point. We have to get
at Astra on the spot. Alright, so now Robbie is delivering the report to Daniel. And no one answers the door. So a little bit of trespassing. He just walks around the property. Yeah, around the house. He's in the backyard. I don't know if there's dogs or what have you. But he stumbles across Daniel and his dojo.
Yeah, he's doing would be the Katas. Right. So Daniel, is there Robbie delivering this sales report? stumbles upon him.
Right? It's kind of funny when he first walks up because he sees him in a reflection of something on the wall. Yeah. But Robbie thinks he's just picked up on his energy. Yeah. He said, Robbie. He said, Did you sense me because Daniels facing the other way? It's like, No, I saw you the reflection.
What's so funny is you know if the tables were turned in that word, Johnny in that instance, and then he'd say, Did you sense me? Johnny might say like, yeah, yeah, I sensed you here. You could tell Johnny probably would have, like went with it.
Yeah, of course. So Daniel takes the report from Robbie. And Daniel immediately knows that. Louise put him up for this because what do we find inside this manila envelope? Yeah, it's like some girlie magazine. Not to some girl magazine. I believe it was a velvet vixen. Okay, I'm
not familiar with that is I wrote it down. Shot. Okay, so that's not a real magazine, then. I don't know
if it's a real magazine. It looks like a real magazine. But I just saw it from the episodes.
Okay, so we learned then that Louie has gotten Robbie now twice.
Yeah. And I'm assuming this came from Louise collection. He's probably in development. vixens. Daniels not upset with Robin. Anyway, he knows that he was put up to this. But now he's in a dojo, and Robbie shows interest in what Daniel was studying because he'd never seen karate that way.
It almost looks like Tai Chi. Exactly. Yeah, it's kind of soft and gentle.
So Robbie shows an interest. And then Daniel
asked him he wants to join them. Yeah. So you want to stick around and learn a few things. And he finally got his Yes. The person that say yes to Daniel's tutelage, Johnny's son,
who knew? Wow. So back at Cobra Kai studios, a few more students have quit. Yeah, it's dwindling. There's still a few students. There's probably 10 students, but it was JAM PACKED initially anyway. Yeah, it's probably never gonna last. Sure. It's got a good balance. He's got more than Miguel. And John is going around and still doing his drill sergeant esque way of teaching. I like what he says. I used to be the weird kid and he pointed this Small student in the class and he says, well not that word. I still hooked up with babes you almost need to like, action figure you can pull a string, you get some a Chinese best quote, that would be good. So I love that he's going around. And as he does this, who enters the dojo,
all of a sudden we see a kid with a mohawk walk and you don't know who this is at first,
and not just any Mohawk. This is like a colorful, super tall Mohawk.
For those of you who are fans of The Ultimate Fighting Championship, if you remember the British guy, Dan Hardy, Dan Hardy in the UFC first entered in with his huge Mohawk. Now he does commentating he's got a regular hairstyle. But when Dan Hardy was fighting in the UFC had this huge Mohawk now don't think of chocolate Dells Mohawk, this was a tall Mohawk. And this is exactly what this kid had. When he walks in. He has this huge Mohawk, you're like, Who is this kid? And we learn? It's Eli. It's Eli lip.
And immediately, Johnny is impressed. And Eli says I flipped the script. And Johnny gives him a nickname, Hawk, which is perfect.
I love that moment. When he walks in. We learn who that is. I was like, yes, but
it wasn't just the Mohawk. He doesn't even carry himself the same way. Yeah, he looks so confident. Yeah.
He's got a different demeanor about his
energy. It's like you almost think he's already a full fledged Cobra Kai. Yeah. And then Johnny says Join us and he kicks off his vans and he walks over. And we're in. Johnny has devoted team now. Yeah, of wannabe Cobra.
Kai's Cobra Kai is forming.
So when you saw that scene sound did you get caught out?
I was totally cut out because we see ie show responding to him. We see Miguel responding to him. And I'm like, Ah, we're seeing Eli with his Mohawk. Like it's coming together, man. I'm totally cut out.
I know you would be. That concludes episode six. That leaves four episodes left for season one. Yeah. And there's so much to happen of the next four episodes,
because we're dealing with 10 episodes per season. Correct? Because some TV shows have like 22 episodes, and this is locked at 10. Okay, which is I think manageable and reasonable.
Again, I've seen the entire season one, but I do not divulge anything to Sal beforehand.
No, he does not spoil it. No, Jason does not spoil anything for me. I am taking these shows and these podcasts, episode by episode. So I am right here along with you, our listeners. I don't know what's going to happen in Episode Seven. Have with
you listeners as well. I went through the first season and the second season. And now it's kind of fun to go back and watch these and just do notes because I'm reliving them a second time. Yeah, but I love that so much. That's what spawned the idea for this podcast. Thank you for joining us. Please rate us and subscribe to us on iTunes or wherever else you get your podcast. And anything else Stan
