seeking to understand we've had a lot of seeking to understand meetings with these individuals attends if the manager and it tends to be their three main trainers that are also leaves. And they are actually very excited about this process. They're very happy that they're getting the support of like a learning and development organization that's coming in. And now we're at the place this is very well timed, that we're trying to get whatever that content in current state that isn't recorded somewhere, but they know that they're training off of meaning. They're doing things wrote Shannon, like you mentioned you and enfant, you be able to do something, you know, real quick, you thought you had good documentation, they're aware that they're training off of things that are very much the folklore knowledge. And but it's not recorded, we seem to have been able to capitalize off of the idea that this was already something that someone else instigated, they were gonna go in kind of a different direction, we've been able to sort of educate them through performance consulting, about like, that shouldn't be the end result of all of this, we have the beauty and all of your going to be like, Oh, you stock, we aren't being pressured to do this in like a month, because this is going to be a years long process, because there's three levels within this, this call center. But the ability of us now that we're going to try and get legacy information out of their brains, we're going to record those meetings, or if it's a mock training, however, we can get that information out of them. And we are, we are fortified by the fact that this project has been you know, I don't know greenlit stamp of approval. So it's, it behooves us. And it actually then shows to the point that then I guess Nathan was making about like whether or not we're gonna sit on stuff, even if we've collected it to then translate, transmit, and then elevate their training by getting it all done into a standardized format, so that we do have a learning journey. And we've got those, all of those things that may be inside of their head, they're like, Oh, I'm thinking about it now. So I'm going to train this person on it, but I forgot about it, and I don't train the next person. So I think that helps us to feel like we've got fire in our bellies of like making sure oh, we're going to do good capturing of this information. And then we really want to make sure that we're going to be able to say this can get turned into this sort of artifact, whether it's elearning. Or if it's a more streamlined IoT, etc, etc. I know that we always, we don't always have maybe that sense of like, if somebody's rooting for us, but are there ways that we can think about it that anchors it to something so that we're feeling that motivated motivation and generation and making sure that we don't collect it all and then just not do