that same way pdhs are allowed for us. It's just a PDF certificate. And there's kind of, like a couple little things to consider, again, like, I think we should maybe hold the quality discussion, because it's a whole other thing. Like, we can separate, like financial that, but you know, for from a business perspective, offering like, a downloadable PDF to prove that somebody did a thing on your website or whatever, is like the easiest thing on the planet. It's like, cheap, fast, low labor, you know, Bam, done. So. Anyhow, so within the history of the informed SLP, and kind of some of the steps that we went through so early on, I started talking to people, and I was like, what does it take to become an ashes CE provider or an Ashe? Approved CE provider. And they were like, it's like, writing a dissertation. And I was like, Well, I'm kind of busy, and so I don't know if I want to take that on. And also, like, I don't know like, like, I just need to understand this process better. So the very first thing I did is went to the Kansas State Association, which is where our we're based, in Kansas. I live in Kansas, and they are Asha approved providers. And so I asked if I could basically run my courses through them. And of course, they said yes, because I've served on their board forever, and they knew me, and they knew that I wouldn't screw it up and would be organized and would do what they told me to do, and all that stuff, you know. And so I want to say, if I remember correctly, that they were charging me $400 per course that I ran through them. And at that time, all of our courses were topic based. And so we would collect, we would have collections of stuff from our website. So we'd had, like, we had like a stuttering in preschool one, and we had like, a, you know, DLD treatment part one, and DLD treatment Part Two, you know, just they were all topic organized, but every single topic that we had was another $400 fee to Kansas in order to pay them for the fees and labor that they're required to do in order to then report it to Asha. So it's like paying kind of like a middleman in order to, you know, get it to Asha. That didn't last all that long because it was expensive. You know, obviously we had a limited number of topics that we were offering, because we couldn't offer, like, all the topics, because it would have been a new $400 fee. But I'm glad that I went through that process. Kansas charged us about as little as they possibly can. They were really nice to us, and it's it was pretty high labor for them to be doing that with us. So it got to the point at which I was about to leave a another job that I had time was opening up for me, and I was like, it's time that we just become Asha CE providers, people weren't lying when they said that the application was crazy. I basically identified the month of January. I don't remember what year it would have been. Would it have been january 2019, perhaps where I was. I basically said to myself, I'm going to get this thing out the door before the end of the month, like we're doing this. And it legitimately with me taking everything else off my plate, literally everything I possibly could. It truly was like two to three weeks of full time work. So if somebody's doing it, who has another full time job, and they're trying to tackle it by doing it, like four hours every Saturday, it will take you freaking forever. The application process is insane. So people are like, Well, what's in the application? Like, what is this thing taking so long for some of it is you proving to Asha on paper that you know how to run a course? That's evidence informed. So they require you to prove that you would know how to do that. They require you to prove that you have a system in place that won't have errors. And this one is one of the biggest issues, because if you became an ASHA CE provider and then started reporting hundreds of people's credit, sometimes 1000s, sometimes 10s of 1000s, to Asha every month, and it's incorrect in any way it causes such a labor issue on their end that you essentially are not allowed to make mistakes in reporting. And like basically most of the hoops that you jump through are hoops that prove to Asha that you will never, ever, ever, ever make a reporting error because it causes too much labor on their end to fix it. And I know people have who have done that, who are like, former ashes CE providers, and then, like, ended up dropping it because of how strict it is and how awful it is if you do screw something up. So a lot of it's just like proving that your system's clean and you know that you have a way of identifying, like, if you're reporting something wrong, and then the rest of it in the application is just proving that you understand the whole system, how to count ashes, CEU, time versus actual hours, and the equation and all that silly stuff. So that application is a doozy. But then once you do the application, I did calculations here so that you guys would have good numbers. Then once you've compiled the application, it's $1,000 to apply, and then it's $1,000 per year after that, those fees are going up. So there are going to about double in 2025 but considering what exists now, you also have fees or like, re upping your providership status. But the big picture take home is that, like a safe budget for what you're going to be paying Asha CE directly, if you're an ASHA CE provider, is $1,500 per year. Okay, so when you think of like the money that I'm sending directly to Asha for this privilege of being an ASHA CE provider, it's 1500 per year. As a business owner, I actually find that fee to be incredibly low. Go ahead Jeanette.