okay we're pleased to have known a little bit. Okay. So I guess I will need them in order to call this meeting to order. I think I just need an adoption of the agenda and the acceptance of the minutes. Can we still combine those because it's a fun time. So, okay. Okay. The second second. Okay. Any impose reduce on favor? Hi You are already caught up we are motivated today some guests here today, we have a commissioner that is just about to be appointed to
the whole time for that. So,
let's take a few minutes with introductions I think. Why don't we just start back here and I don't think maybe we don't have to do you know commissioners on staff and we'll just go like this. Because I won't get here. And it would be great Scott, if you don't mind going last if you just want to say a few words and say you're gonna be
okay. Hi, I'm very often I leave the public art theme for the city. I'm David Smith and
Lucy Thompson more 10 lay person on the commission.
Jeff Swain, Ward seven leg person.
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Lana Aylesworth word 11 Lieberson Mari Mansfield Ward eight. She her hers and artist
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made the bed brewery or 10. She her hers. Artist beach work for the City of Minneapolis. I provide administrative assistance
on the border group in here. I'm actually on move right now. So I was words three and seven. And now I'm going to be working in the West Bank for the next couple of months. So I'm roving but I'm an arts admin.
I mean, I'm on the better she her hers. I'm here as the project manager for creating responsible
achievers.
I'm Scott Hartley. I use heat and they pronouns. And I have I grew up in the Twin Cities. I worked in a number of arts organizations over the years been split theater, Southern theater, Walker Art Center. I was the executive artistic director of Patrick's Cabaret. And now I work at the Metropolitan regional arts council. So I'm the grantmaking side and I live in Whittier. We'll learn more at happy hour
thank you so much for putting together a spot for us to go and chapter invitation. So it's of course it's not mandatory, but we would love it if everyone could walk over to bars. Yeah, after tonight. Okay, the next item on our agenda, then we'll just jump right in. Mina is going to give us a presentation about the greatest response I learned to take my mask off because this is one of my
you know, actually one of the three social situations I have been for presentations and it's different. You're in front of zoom. So you know, you can see my whole face. What do we have open here to see, Dahlia has opened up there. But this creates.org website, which is currently the project website for Office of ours arts, culture and creative economy. I'm a project manager for Brady Response Fund. I'm a contractor for this project. So I'll highly encourage you to go on the website, click on programs and you will get to create your response on page two read all the BIOS and the artists that are selected for this year, as well as last year's grantees. I'm exporting a t shirt that was created for when I'm Hello, last year's project called Rise of Cinderella. It was a play Hong Kong they that was created and presented on the north side. So you will hear you know, you will see all the details of the past projects. But this year you tardy you can keep scrolling through. We have a great roster of 12 artists, you will see overall, we have 56% of the interest projects. 56% are the black artists. We have 84% Latino, are immigrant artists. We have 14% Native American who calls Minnesota their own. And we have 4%. White, literally, we have one artist who is white, which is a staple from last year's numbers. But let's keep the numbers aside. What you want you will observe is this grant is for artists working in the team of two or more. The grant is essentially for individual artists. So nonprofits are collectives who are operating as a business were not eligible to apply. The key criteria for the for the selection as well as eligibility was, how close is their concept towards providing healing opportunities through arts in connection to the marginalized communities of the City of Minneapolis. So we provided funding in two categories. One was General, and the second category was cultural district funding. So there are seven cultural districts that are designated by the city, we provided a map. So you know, we innovated few things. When we were working on this project, we developed a tool where artists can just you know, either click on the map or type in their address and key they are part of the cultural district or not. It helps when you are applying. And you want to select some criteria last minute. We also used, you know, city city tools for the application. So we didn't use any known grant application portals. So that just the back end of the of the project. But when the artist saw that they are qualified for one or the other cultural district funding, they had to make a decision. You know why they were applying as well as you know, during our chicken after they were accepted. If they're able to, you know, create 50% or more deliverables in their selected cultural district. We provided them funding from a certain pool. So that was made for cultural history right now. So we out of 12 projects. We have four projects that are funded in the East Lake cultural district, one project on 30 and 10. Chicago, one project in Cedar cultural district, two projects in West Broadway cultural district, one in Lowry cultural district, one project in Franklin cultural district and three projects were selected in general funding category. So as you can see, more and more impact this year is geared towards reaching out to the cultural district communities and providing artists to create new projects. One key or even a unique element of this grant is out of $15,000 Grant, each artist team is required to spend 10% of their funding on artist healing. We received a great response to this idea. We continued doing it
in 2022. Artists were really surprised. There were two years when I was explaining what this means over zoom. So this $1,500 are meant for healing of the artist team who is working on this. Artists are known to put money from their pocket in their projects, or not get paid from their own projects. So we wanted to put artists, front and center of the world. So we asked them tell us what does it mean for you? Does it mean paying your rent? You know, half of the rain? Buying yourself some time so you can take time off your work? Or do you want to just get out of the town? Spend some time learning something somewhere? When artists said I haven't been outside my neighborhood I would you know I would love to buy a used bike and just go Who are the Windy City? Exactly, that's what they did. So, you know, we asked our viewers to put their own definition to these artists healing dollars and ask them to spend it, you know, on the team, not necessarily on team building, but really individual human towards their individual healing. And I'm going to point out few projects again, you know, the work hasn't begun, the grand begins on July 1, right now, everyone is contracted, they have received their they are going to receive their first payment by the end of this month, and then they will start working in summer. We moved the grant period from last year to this year to allow more room in summer because all that is wanted to create work starting summer in the summer. So yes, so they, again, you go all the way down, that's a unique project I want to point out
So, the last project is a unconquered nation. This is from Franklin cultural district. These are three artists mercy Rendon, sequin, Rendon and sarin. They are and that project is centered on creating healing project for the healers. So they will be working with 10 healers from this earth and create 10 circles for them sufficient be monthly meeting will be two hours long. There will be Reiki sessions, there will be some healing practices, there will be writing workshops as part of the circles. So you know, again, to point out that artists came up with the idea of what healing means for the community as well as for themselves and created a case for that to happen and creative Response Fund selected 12 of these teams with the help of a selection panel of seven haha was one of the panelists. And yeah, I can go I can tell more about the selection panel. How long do I have? Okay, all right. Any questions so far?
I will say it was an incredible process to be a part of, and thank you for facilitating.
Thank you. Thank you. You know, there are pros and cons of meeting over zoom. But, you know, this was a very successful selection panel. Activities happened over zoom even now I'm checking with his artist or room or our phone. It's an incredible group of artists we're working with. Is this the last
creative Response Fund that we're gonna have are we get funding to keep doing it? Because I know we didn't one in the last? Yes.
That's a great question. I do not have an answer to that. Again, you know, I wasn't sure if we are going to have funding for this year, but we do. So that's a question. I'll you know, I'll check in with Google.
Sure. I just feel like I think I know the answer. But the funding was allocated by the mayor. Is that correct?
Yes. So last year's funding was part funding that came from the Kresge Foundation grant, and part was from the Office of arts and culture, creative economy, the center's funding is mostly coming from toddlers. You know, I don't know the technical term. I think it's derived from American rescue act. No, it's the data from MPD budget plan. Funding is going to fund three grants that we are hoping to launch, you know, later this month. So two grants will be launched on June 30. They are business support grants. So the first grant is for business support for marketing. The second grant is business support for apprentice program, where artists are a creative business can hire someone as an apprentice for a year. And the third grant, we are hoping to launch in August, sometime in August that will be in partnership with ArtPlace. So it will be a cohort that will be part of their immersion program.
And there's the are you designing these programs just come and go come on, or do you have like a committee that you work with?
So I'm at the end of the project management capacity? I do bring in some logical questions but most of the guidelines so American high school plan fund comes with their set of guidelines, golden golden time and Brenda Kaiser. They are creating the initial set of Um, you know, the rules, the guidelines and the duration as well, as, you know, the decisions around partnership, I come in for the process. So, you know, how do we run the selection process? What support do we need to create for the grantees? How, how should the outreach be executed? So that's where I come in. And officially, I'm not managing the business support grant yet, because it's in process, but I can answer any questions around creative Response Fund without stepping.
So last year, the last grant cycle, I think we had 13. And this is the 50. Yeah. Alright, because we found for two more so. And I noticed this time is only nine, is it because not a lot of people applied for this round? Or did you only have one,
it's the it's the other way around, we actually got 10% More ammunition this year. But we, we started with a smaller font. So we only had 180,000. To give from that we could, you know, for any project started. That makes sense. And last year, actually, we had 15 grantees quantitative response fund and five grantees for next phase one, which was. So originally, the grant was created in 2020, within a week after Joshua is murdered, and several teams received $10,000. But at the end of their grant period, their their feedback was 10,000, either doesn't do anything, particularly in pandemic is harder to create project in $10,000. So five teams from that round, who, who had clients and who intended to continue working on their project received additional titles and others. So last year, overall, you know, it was a larger pool we had
I mean, thank you so much. And I am on the email, email invite for this meeting. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. If there's anything I can't answer, I'll find someone who can show me
how do we find out when or where and when you have those scheduled online? Because it'd be nice to be able to follow up and like not have to chase down nine. It's it's on this one website?
Yes, you read my mind. So this week, actually, you know, working with the finance consultants to see if you can work in a calendar on this page. Yes, because that's been the number one question I get. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you.
Okay, any other discussion or comments or
what was the answer to the funding for this year? I didn't get that. Is it the mayor's off
is money. You know, do you hide from NPD funding? Oh, thank you.
Okay, all right.
Okay, so the next item on our agenda is our action. And we're gonna kick it off to the public art Advisory
Committee and Talia is here generously this evening to tell us about two projects and then Mary has an update so
so we have one of our permanent friends, he started farmstead Neighborhood Association. They submitted a pink pigment or a mural, this is actually going to perform drinking. They would like to install the mural at the Southwest storming of the intersection look at what's British Third Street and South project is to raise awareness about how to get more adopted in partnership with Martin elementary school age students to develop the design and neighborhood organizations have a call for artists can all
come together to share information on the art selection process or communicate through their partnership was born elementary they'll be doing additional insulation. They will be using latex paint nearly five feet by 10 feet scheduled for the end of summer, early fall, return to school full time like can be found on page seven. He started farms and we'll be doing ongoing maintenance
on spring after spring streetscapes in the attachments on page 17 Their design features the Lakers, which is a few blocks away from the location, the people swimming inside us to nature connection to fish, turtles and plants represent the natural habitat that we share my screen shirt.
And then some recommendation artists and applicants, the design, red outline they include this string leads directly to our lakes and rivers which was originally
designed. And then they also recommended that it be oriented to the bottom. So the first signs for drain is in the bottom right. And then the panel is recommended action is to provide an immutable so I would
love for one of our commissioners of survey, Lucier, or whoever would like to just to talk about why I, from what I understand when we debriefed and executive, this particular application, which is a paint the pavement, right, permit application, just for anyone who isn't familiar with that, that's one routes where you can apply as an independent entity in the community to do something like this, but that they that the original application received significant amount of feedback or something like that, and that they came back when they did the work, basically,
yeah, we speak a little bit to that we in the public advisory public art advisory panel, we had a lot of discussion, it used to say, just protect where we play. And we just felt that that, although that's important for the neighborhood, it didn't quite tell the story enough about well, why should we care about that right here. And so that's, we said, we just recommended, maybe you would want some language on there that this is about what drains into Lake Harriet and you know, the chain of lakes. So I think they came up with that additional. Yeah. And then we also, there were options. I think it's how you set up which corner which corner, they could go on. And so we were just trying to talk through that a little bit. But yeah, we had a lot of conversation and you know, like, just before, well, then the the applicant came back the next month and talk to us. And it was really, I thought it was great, because they really took our concerns very seriously, they did a lot of extra work they gave us like, I don't know, three or four pages of response to the questions that the panel had raised. And they were all I thought really, you know, really well thought out answers. And so, but we did still feel that it was better to tell people why you're trying to protect where you play. And that's about what the runoff that goes into the lake system. And I don't know that the second time that we came to any strong conclusion about whether it's the blue outline, or the red outline, I think, unless you said, yeah, so we right, kind of where the drain should come into the picture, but leave it to them to figure out where they you know, where they want to do it. But yeah, they were, it's it was a wonderful if you, you know, read the attachment. It was just a wonderful process where they worked with the kids and a lot of community feedback to come up with this idea and the design and stuff. So it was just a just felt like it was a really good conversation that they had with their community and then that we had with the applicants and they were just very responsive and open to maybe us butting in a little bit on how we thought there should be a clear message to the neighborhood and they were they were okay with going along with that. So,
and this is so this is a little bit of a departure for me. No, no, this is basically what pink pavement is. But this is this the first time the storm drain has been the focus seems like a new, cool and innovative idea. Yeah, maybe hasn't been done before, at least in Minneapolis that I'm aware of.
It seems like it's a PSA that can be used on all this.
They could go around and promote to the other schools. I
mean, there are the more conventional you know the old stencils that you used to see your drains to the Mississippi kind of thing, but this is just so much more interesting and beautiful and expressive of the The neighborhood so
what type of projects do you usually see come through for paint the pavement?
really varies. We don't get a ton of them. I guess I shouldn't be because I haven't served on that committee for a little while, but maybe you can speak to that. What do you think we get like once a year, that's pretty hard. Yeah, we don't get
it's a lot of work. It's like doing a mural, but you also have to close the street. And then you also have to go out there and touch it up because people are thriving.
And you have to special products. Yeah,
you have to be careful not to let anything go down the storm.
Water you can't use particular colors because the PW rules right? Like there's
they're pretty open. Okay, you can't paint in the crosswalk. And it's only allowed in certain places, but it's uh, you know, it's like doing a mural project and then you actually if you want it to last more than one season you have to do it all over again the next year. So it's it's a lot of work for a temporary project.
Yeah, and we don't see a lot of paper pavement permits. But this artist of course is like an amazing and really well revered artists that is doing a lot of different projects both for the city and otherwise all over which is exciting. So I think it's going to be something that could be kind of attention grabbing maybe we can be helpful in some way to kind of a smaller community projects it would be cool to get the word out about it because it sort of checks a lot of cool boxes I think and it's different
Yeah, cuz that's what I was wondering because it's so informative right? And it almost makes you want to find out more about the artists or you know the whole How do you protect the rivers, lakes and rivers so interested in how do we think about you know, getting more you know, this to get more information you can be nice QR code that's how you do your Ico but obviously you can't do that here
but it's me so maybe we can help share when this is completed. And when is the implementation scheduled for summer this year
this can be kind of I think she had said the East area representative had said she'd let us know when they were going to kind of not cut the ribbon but when it was done they were going to do some little neighborhood thing am I remembering that right and then we would certainly be welcome to come which would be fun to do. We should do that.
Yeah, one of the one of the letters said that they were going to have a successful community painting day in spring so obviously that's been moved out a little bit. I was like man if there's community painting I wanted
exactly. That's awesome. Okay, are there any other questions about this proposal would like to provide a motion to approve permitted and needs Public Works other requirements second, okay, any opposed? Any reduces All in favor? So moved
to the next thing, we're gonna have to use a couple little artworks that are have some complex issues and are a little complicated and a little extra love. So the first one is Crossroads by PT Jones is located at high Wacom later the bridge. The main issues here are the artworks walls were heavily vandalized and uprising painted over to cover up everything. So major conservation is needed, which includes Dean's selling the light fixtures to remove the cover up paint repainted to its original standards, repairing the broken acrylic and one of light fixtures, and then possibly upgrading light bulbs to LEDs to make the brighter plans for the future best artwork. Right now there's planning construction to reconfigure under the bridge under bridge environment which will require the sidewalk stamps to be torn up and then re stamped on the sidewalk is reconfigured. The counties also planning to sell new underbridge lighting and it's estimated to go in 2024. And then we are also we will our city which was awarded $400 at a panel on 2020.
And I think that's a pretty good summary. Hopefully the We're doing in the walls, a new work on the walls with, you know, say twos engagement will help deter graffiti is really out of control and the site, the panels selected, because it was an opportunity to really make a difference and especially at an area in a city that has undergone a lot some pretty big budget or the MPs.
So the so you're saying that this $450,000 allocation is part of partly been allocated for conservation, and that's what the significance
of conservation is, in addition to that, that's a new project, okay, which is going to be a mural on both sides of the bridge and probably also extend around the sites.
Okay, so the tile is going to be primed and
painted tile. Oh, it's concrete, all while.
glossing concrete.
Yeah. And actually, now most of the tiles gone. I mean, I mean, the look, tile look is gone, because he was basically painted beige, many times during the tagging during graffiti removal during the uprisings was not very good. People just went out there with a lot of pain. And so it doesn't look nearly as nice, right.
So the new work that has been, I apologize, because I'm catching up a little bit to the new piece that's planned. That's already been funded. Right. So that was part of the annual funds that were allocated, but have the artist and selectors that the next steps.
We're just at the early planning stages. Okay. Okay.
That looks really nice purse for
a lot of real estate.
It's it's a big mural,
this mural up above? Or is it um, this under the bridge, under the bridge? Right, we're looking it would be there.
Okay. That's one side. And also makes it look like it's a really small area. It's a very foreshortened picture. It's a very big area. And that, you know, the tag in the area goes all the way around the sides of the bridge, too. So I think there's an opportunity to make impact, not just in the underbridge. area, but inside. So we're welcoming to get under that bridge space,
I believe, wasn't XO, the artist selected? Based on what we did earlier last year, where it was kind of a different way to go about notice getting into spaces
are presented this as a possible project. For one of the 2021 artists. Yeah.
Yeah, she presented the concept. Yeah. But that's a good
reminder that the fall, yeah. Well, I won't bore everyone with that. But I'm always like, is there any way to also have there be a programmatic piece just because of the probably there's but because of the just the fact that this is a really hot, vibrant, high energy space, that's getting a lot of attention, both probably negative and positive. And maybe there's an opportunity
now with this money, but there is a lot of planning happening in this area, and they are looking at programming, the larger so this is a this infrastructure project is a collaboration between mindat and Hennepin County, and the city. And they are they have been doing a lot of research about other things they could do, like expand the farmers market to occur here or other areas, they have not identified funding sources for that program. They're just been fantasizing.
Alright, well, that's kind of an incredible amount of money. But that is a huge space. And it doesn't really have a lot of real estate to cover. But it'll be interesting to see how that moves forward.
And there's just going to need to be engagement.
That'll be important. So hopefully, we can be helpful in some capacity. Any other questions? Can
I just say to will he be involved? You said something. So the new 450,000 Will he be part of that? I know it hasn't been assigned yet. So how was the interaction so the
artist will select it artists will have to work with safety, to integrate their design will say to his current design that's happening. And then outside of the 450 $1,000 budget is so they're reconfiguring the sidewalk area as part of this project. And I'm going to county and the mindat are and so they are working with the landscape architect to redesign them back. sidewalk area. And so part of that landscape architect's job is to work with se to pay, say, to advise on that new layout of the wheel stamps. And because we've been really trying to get stamping out of the pedestrian clearzone will be doing that as part of it, but they're making a much bigger sidewalk. So there'll be a lot of real estate for them to work.
Thank you. Excellent question about funding. And maybe there's not a simple answer. But how is it decided, like the amount that's allocated to each project, and just seems to be such a wide variety, I'm curious about that process.
So the panel members on the panel can talk about that a little bit, but there's a couple things that they look at, right. So they look at the need of the neighborhood, and the need of the site, they also look at the possible projects that could happen at that site, and what those projects might cost. So the panel tends to be more generous if the site is meeting for more than just what, you know, like, this is a really meaty area of the city. So they want to make a huge difference here. So they, they put a lot of money into it for that reason. So something really special could happen and placed in an area of the city that basically burned out, right. So that's why one reason why they were so generous, but they also look at what can happen. What are the possible types of projects, so some projects, they might not put a lot of money into it, because the art opportunities are pretty small. And there's people on the panel who know what things cost,
also to that project. So also, there was this innovative initiative that hired a bunch of artists to identify sites, and give, you know, like, I guess, case studies about what was possible. And that was something that hadn't happened before. Because typically, the city would identify the sites or the public art advisory committee or Mary or whoever, you know, is kind of in that capacity. But this time, it was an artist driven artists center were the topic and this was one of the sites that it's now picked up. I think there's more to say about that, that the artists that did that then wanted to do the projects and connect because they put time and passion into it and then they're like, Okay, now we're gonna pick another artist to do is integrate. But, you know, it was a really cool effort. I think it's put artists at the top of the decision making so that they're not coming in at the end when the funds are decided and the fights are decided and that they could be deciding this is part of that as well.
I think for this project also there's an assumption that a mural doesn't this isn't necessarily right, that there are more permanent materials that my mural can be made odo or a portion of America like the metal or Adamle
light
Yeah, I'm really trying to because this is meant that infrastructure Oh, I don't want to maintain electrical on that site. I have very little power and maintaining the electrical infrastructure and agreed to do that for decades on something I don't think it's best to just gonna do doing and Hennepin County are looking at the light under the bridge as part of their project and they have sugar shoved under contract and they might do something special so like they're the way folks that did the under budget environment at 35 W and like and they you know again they're gonna be limited to what they can do here because they're not starting from scratch like the 35 W Lake is all your electrical and everything but I know people want to buy budget but they can probably do something special
but I hear what you're saying that that lady and then the resulting accountability for its maintenance should not live at the city level but they should live at the department transportation county level. Yeah that's good. All right, sir. We took a little extra time with that but those those are some good questions. So if anybody else has any other questions or comments
Okay, the next is Phillips Plaza. is located at you feel part of the issues with this artwork? Is it only 30 years old? 23 Music benches are deteriorating rapidly from Greece. So Jose chunks of the benches due to the presence of the strings and the archway are unwrapping some pieces were likely weapons is not our choice. And then we also have higher community engagement consultant to help us engage the community on the future of this artwork. Unfortunately, it is designed during COVID.
For short term plans
are to make the ropes on our toilet better, and do our regular patch of paint treatments of the mosaic benches. This was approved last month as part of the near future, we hope to hire new engagement consultants help us engage the community to determine the long term solution, which is also to be determined, because we want to make the decision based off of what the community saying and wants to be accessing or repairing is a coalition.
We also had some damage by some time directors working for Metro Transit on the mosaic Plaza, which has was repaired and present paid for that the site was just early in the cycle for a lot of very intense use.
So there's money allocated to do these near term repairs. And that was that was approved.
And then there's also money that's allocated for the engagement consultant to help us plan the future.
That's great. It's I mean, it's I'm sure, it's very special space. And it's a very special illness out there but this piece. So I'm glad to hear that everyone's managing it with care and taking baby steps to kind of figure out what's the best way to work. I think that's the right thing. Any questions about this project
next, our work is the field drinking fountain is located in the closet behind single church. Street. The main issue with this is that it's currently not because it's not connected to potable water. So it's not actually functioning as a drinking fountain. As well as going off as major construction plans. Right now they're on phase one. So they can actually renovate the building that you see right here. On the inside, which is adjacent to the Plaza Hotel possibly be pulling off a pause on them. They also are planning to build a new housing tower over their parking lot on the other side of the church, that's possibly starting next year. And then they're also planning a base to where they're going to build a segment housing tower at the smaller parking lot right next to the plaza and possibly taking some of the plaza space. And so they don't know right now they're going to keep the plaza or plazas between the buildings. So it doesn't necessarily mean different causes to be accessible to the public. So this is all on the primaries as part of their Phase Two plan. So we don't actually know what their plans are.
But they also wanted to wait until their construction was done. So that could still be five years I was estimating. So our short term plans right now is we decided not to treat it since it's not connected to water, prioritize their money to other artworks. Long term though we're looking to absolutely relocate to one of our ideas to smooth it to Nicollet Mall which are like a couple blocks away from where and then do a full conservation restoration. At that point when it's getting the panel they had made some suggestions at their meeting. They suggested putting out in storage, not connected to water, so it's not really keeping jars mean in terms of being a drinking fountain. And then also construction where they also recommended that we monitor upcoming capital projects to consider those for possible relocation spots. He wasn't really interested in workers
and the panel wouldn't be involved in any new location decision which in the conversation Yeah. So next steps are undetermined? Well, I
think the next step is probably to get a cost estimate for storing it. And, you know, considering that future budget allocation, and then also to look at the capital improvement program, which the mayor will propose a new capital improvement program in September, and the council will approve a new capital improvement in December. So we should be kind of monitoring to see what the projects are and how they might overlap with downtown. So this is on second, so there might be, for example, other coincides with other work that Lisa Lyons has on second and Marquette. And so to look at what other road projects might be intersecting with second, and Marquette downtown, which would be any east west Road, basically. So to see if there are other opportunities, so we could keep it closer to the collection of alliances work. But if we moved it to Nicollet Mall, it would still be only a block from that collection. So still
pretty nearby, for this artist of both tree, the tree
grouse tree grades and some bike racks that have similar visual language. So
in a process like this, do you would you talk to Lisa? How did that kind of work? Just curious.
You've been talking to her already. Right?
Yeah, we've spoken briefly about the sound found the morsel of ongoing.
So if we were, if we were going to bring forward and one or more locations to the panel in the Arts Commission, we would get Lisa's feedback as part of that process. So when they weighed the locations, they would also be waiting for input. Thank you.
Any other questions? Appreciate you bringing those things forward. And thanks to the public art advisory committee members here. suggestion to executive that like these were things that we should really discuss enough for our consent.
Thanks. Okay. Which is really there is no real update. And I think when I spoke to you last year, we're working with the mayor's office to schedule a couple of meetings. One was a meeting with the folks who had initiated the complaint, which is the Minnesota Native American, Minnesota indigenous Business Alliance, and the Minnesota Native American artists Association. And the mayor's office did have that meeting about two weeks ago tomorrow. And meeting was organized by the folks who initiated the complaint. And it was very thorough, very thorough presentations. They have also, the original complaint contained, I believe, five letters, or state with the statements of impact from artists about how this decision is negatively impacted on them and on the community. And I believe they brought forward additional five left statements of impact from other artists. In my opinion, they've brought statements forward by some of the most highly regarded Nakota artists around so the next step is for the mayor's office to schedule a meeting with him provide opportunities for all of the native people who've advised us on this project, including data people and indigenous people on the steering committee on artists selection panel, were part of the original visioning session as well as we've had about seven different native advisors throughout the process. And so they of course, were not all included on the for was meeting with the mayor. And so we asked the mayor to be with everyone. So he could hear all the voices. They have not scheduled that yet, waiting for that to happen. And so in the meantime, the project has been paused indefinitely until we've heard this, and then obviously, the mayor may make a decision. Recommendation. And I'm assuming that the city attorney's office will be involved in all of this. So that's where we're at. I'll just continue to keep you up to date. No. Mayor's got a lot. Mayor's Office has a lot on their plate right now. And so although I think they see this as a priority, I'm sure it's very difficult for things to move very quickly. Fair right now, just because many be read the newspaper, you know, many complex things.
So you said it sounds like they're 10. Statements, five, and then five? And
yeah, there might be 11,
maybe 11? Is there any way we could see those or maybe the just the people who are on the waterworks panels, because they know, I had mentioned this in our panel meeting, that it's kind of hard to, for us to have our own separate meeting, if we can't really know exactly what these complaints are, we're just getting like a short summary.
So more, or you will get invited to whatever happens, what I've proposed, so I don't currently have much control over what's happening. There's, I have proposed to the mayor's office, I have an and I developed a pretty comprehensive PowerPoint about the complaint, we haven't released the whole complaint yet. Because there's private data in it. And I'm not even sure what the private data is. So if you want to see the complaint, you could probably make a data practice request now to see the whole complaint. But I don't feel comfortable giving it to you because it hasn't been reviewed by the clerk's office for what would be private data. And I especially feel like because of the sensitive materials in there, I don't want to be the person to really affect decision. But probably you want to know who sent the letters? No, no?
Well, I would really be more interested in the content of the complaints. If 10 People wrote unique letters with what they find to be the complaint like their main points. I think that's, that can be very different, of course, from what's just summed up in a PowerPoint, especially if like us on the panel who were on the waterworks panel are going to meet that maybe we can see that before we meet with the mayor. So we have a word attached
to the mayor's office about what people could get in advance. What I what I did for another for another group of Native people that we met with recently was I excerpted the main, most critical comments from the letters. And I, you know, it's a 48 page complaint, I, part of me would like to just send it to everybody. But I guess I guess I should just contact the clerk's office and see if they can clean it for me so I can send it.
Yeah, because I think regardless of how this turns out, like if 10 or 11 people feel compelled to write letters, I think there's probably a lot of content in there, that we can all learn from future collaborations with native
English. So on top of the content, some of the letters are so beautifully written, I just, you know, but yes, I agree. I agree. So what how about this, I am going to contact the clerk's office and ask them to review the complaint and the supplemental materials that were given to us and take out any private data so I can share that. That'd be great. Everyone was gonna go to the meeting with the mayor doesn't have to do data. That's generous. So I'll see if they'll do that for me. They might ask for a date of practice. Yeah, they might ask for it anyway. Any other questions or comments?
Okay, well, that's it. is a done update for public art. Thanks. The next item for updates alts. Policies.
Sure. Hi, everybody. Thank you for those submissions from your council member. Note that if you do look at teams, they're fully updated. And what I tried to do just that you can consider this for work plan updates, is to have like a really brief summary for each board that was represented in these meetings, and then also identify like, suggestions of whether it be like presents at different spaces or ways that you can get involved. So that if that pertains to your, your ALP initiatives, you can update your work plans for that. So find that on teams, if you have trouble, it's under the General tab, and I just updated it with all the current notes. So I think there's only one counselor that wasn't represented overall, which I think is pretty good. So thanks for your efforts there. We're also using that for policy in collaboration with the mayor's recent presentation to council, just to kind of feel out how the new strong mayoral system will shake down at the as it pertains to arts relations, right. So like when we're looking at new a new leadership structure, what that is going to mean for us and how we can best advocate for the new department overall, as well as the new director position, I don't have any new updates on the director position. Other than that, once it's public, they'll send it to us so that we can see it. So we're still like kind of like a stalemate there. But I think in policy, there's, you know, some energy and momentum to see how we can keep this present and at the forefront, and I think looking at our work plan is going to be the solution for that plan. So hopefully, we can do that before maybe next week, because we've had a lot of independent conversations and you need to circle back together.
So what we know so far about the new director position is that the job description is completed as well as the position profile, and it will be an appointed role that will serve in the mayor's executive cabinet looks forward.
So I don't think we actually know all of that anymore, because the city is also undergoing a restructuring. And so for example, this new department is in the coordinators office Voegelin recording, you know, the coordinators offices being is kind of disbanded? Probably, we don't know for sure, because no one's right. So the coordinators position. Well, this person would report would probably not exist the year. So and currently in the new mayor's plan, which has not been approved by the council. The new department is in a new division of the mayor's office that includes the convention center, see pet regulatory services and arts department.
We met under secret.
No, but that. So this is the mayor's proposal. The mayor is proposing to have four divisions in his office. Probably that will all get reconsidered during the dialogues with the council. Right. So this is just the mayor's proposal, the console identifies the organizational structure or approves organizational structure of this.
The old system
no wonder this system in the new system? Yes. And so. So the council will approve this. The mayor is proposing several new high level positions like three very high level positions in his office as part of this new structure. So whether or not the council wants to fund that is probably also a question, in my opinion, but I'm just a staff person. So a lot, a lot could happen. Right as part of this. I would be very surprised if the mayor the council gave the mayor all the positions he wants and all the divisions he wants. Because because of the cost and also for other reasons. Other things that are controversial when the mayor structures that the police, the head of the new Department of Community Safety reports directly to the mayor as well. was a city attorney. So there's all kinds of things that are controversial. And my own personal opinion is that till that gets figured out, you don't really want a new arts and culture person to show up while the before is done, right?
It just sounds like it would be so hard.
Who would want that job? Hi, I'm ready. I'm not quite sure we talked about spatial structure or what your budget is. Welcome. Yeah. That's my own personal opinion. And we don't know. But I think actually, the positive thing is, is that they are, there is conversation about the new arts and culture department, and how it relates to see that, and also how it relates to the whole concept of tourism. I mean, I think that's kind of an interesting discussion. So those are my personal opinions. We'll see what. And I don't think we're going to know anything until they Council keep saying we're going to know all this in few months, but I would not bet my mortgage.
So we may have just another really good thing to note for everyone like so. And when we move into our small groups to talk about updating our work plans, part of the reason why the motivation to do that is because the work that we had intended to do this year, in regard to helping develop the art, the Department of Art and Cultural Affairs is just paralyzed, really, by the hire by the restructuring, whatever order you want to put those in, but they just can't be can't be helpful to anybody, because there is no real department right now. And it doesn't have an actual leader, and it doesn't have all. So if anything, we would maybe want to think about how we couldn't be helpful with those items changing, right? If there wasn't even going to be a buffet, which I can't go top of my head, but
so I get a question on that on that particular piece. And I know nothing about this. So this might be a crazy question, but because the structure is going to be finalized by the council members, Mary just said, is there a point of view that we would want to position to our council members as the Minneapolis Arts Commission, after they, you know, during this process? I don't know if that's possible or not, but just going?
We've been talking a little bit about that. I think and I think that we, after the conversation that the three of us had. And the C ped being the certain better position from the city coordinators office, it sounds like that has been aligned somewhat, although the mayor's proposal doesn't exactly put us or put your department in under seat as necessary. Right. Right. So that's still in limbo, but it looks as if it wouldn't be in the city coordinators office as it has not going to be a city court as the ordinance reads today. That's what the ordinance reads today. So that looks as if that will definitely be changing. So I think it is something that we should be thinking about.
Because, you know, we know that, you know, one council member is in favor of that. But I think I haven't read the notes from teams, but the other counts, a lot of the other council members don't even think about this and don't even know it. So is it?
Is there a canvas opportunity? During this decision making period? Yeah.
No. Is it wise?
Yes. Just the other. Yeah. Yeah, and the
timing is gonna be really important on that. We have to be really strategic. I mean, we asked to even review the job description in the profile. And we didn't even get to see that. So I think I think we really have to be smart about how we, you know, the timing of when we have the right information to make the right impact on a conversation with a council member. See, that happens first.
And it's really difficult to because it's hard to know for sure to even speak to you know what I mean? It's like because I was seeing like, I know that is in regard to the higher there was a comment that Andrea Brennan was going to be On the panel selecting the directors have been my mind's like, well, maybe we should have conversation with Andrea, right? Like, that might make some sense. But I don't know that that's even far enough down the road to consider. But so I think this is a conversation we need to continue to have. And I think we're just going to find out things slowly. But I also just, you know, we don't want it to happen to us if we can help it, if we can have some conversations with some, you know, leaders, I know, Mary's keeping a really good eye on it too. For obvious reasons, not just for our benefit, but you know, what affects her life too. So
I think that's something that policy as we think about updating
that might be, how do we articulate that, that we'll try to be a little bit of an eagle eye on that, or whatever, you know, just keeping a close eye on it? So
can I ask a clarifying question, how does the shift or potential shift to an appointment from a hired position changed the process is that so we talked about the job description and the position profile? How, you know, those still go out to the public, if it's an appointed position, and just for my own understanding?
I don't I don't totally know myself, I think the only thing I understand is that it's the selection process is different than an open,
I would assume it would be different.
So sometimes, Mayor may decide to have a selection process that's not unlike selecting any other staff person may decide to post it nationally. Sometimes the mayor may just decide to recommend someone. Both happen, the council has to approve them. So if this person wasn't an appointed person, elected officials would not be involved in selecting the person that I personally report to would, and HR. So it's an end. But the other thing that's more I think, an issue with an appointed position is that then staff people change with the mayor. And so, arts person could become more of a political relationship, as opposed to someone just being selected based on qualifications. And they may have less experience like they may be not uncommon in other cities for this to be someone who contributed to the mayor's campaign who has an interest in arts. And so then, you know, if you talk to, like, states and cities where their director is appointed, you know, staff go through a real crazy thing, every election cycle, and sometimes they were really smart director and somebody times they have somebody who has theater tickets.
Or was another is an artist. And so that's, like, you know, I mean, it's common for mayor's to look at the qualifications. If you look at all of our department heads are appointed, many of them are highly, most.
I appreciate that insight, but
it's not ideal. Also, the leadership could change every four years, which is hard.
You can't do long term,
long term planning takes the it takes two years to learn how the government structure works.
Well, and even if it's no under the mayor's office, even you know, there's there's that shadow and that shadow, but there's there's that hierarchy there that a lot of people in the mayor's office can change every four years, not just the employment. So it starts this kind of ripple effect, I think.
Yeah, I am going to be very interested in us sort of like thinking about how do we keep I mean, Mary, I appreciate that you would have been going and diligent about sending updates as they occur. And Atlanta, I know, you aren't checking into the city council meetings and stuff like that. So I appreciate that. That takes time. But I think that that's really what is needing to happen right now is that we need to be watching and communicating. And then we may want to get ahead on to Jeff's point we might want to get ahead of when it is time to have influence, what might that look like and maybe we need to have those conversations, because my guess was at the time it would be fascinating once the decisions were rates start coming through, then it'll, it'll happen to us. So how do we insert ourselves in a hurry up and wait situation? Right. And that's not a that's not a conversation, I think that is limited to the policy Lt. But I do think it makes sense for us to have some leadership there and then getting feedback from you all. So, so maybe this becomes an, an evergreen topic trade for every month. And probably really, for this meeting, the exec committee meeting and the policy. And that's probably how we're gonna have to move forward. Even if it's like, no updates today. Right, that we have those checks and balances. Yeah,
I think I feel it's already had presence in all three of each time we've met. So I think that's just an alcoholics that's gonna have
to talk about Okay. Anything else for the policy updates? I just said the policy people. Okay, thank you. Okay, so it's an engagement. 11 more minutes till happy hour. Updates.
The final update,
we have a confirmation from the SU Visual Art Center, that we will be doing our next month's meeting in their space, just working out the details. Thank you, for the for the name. Just kind of happened. It sounds like it sounds like we might have a meet and greet depending on if an agreement is being having been hanging out with us. So I don't know. I said, you know, I offered a tour, and they have an amazing exhibit that's going up, I highly recommend checking out anyway. So it's going to be a good time to be there. She asked about logistics on whether or not we need a table setup. Or if we're bringing our own stuff I said, you know, a circle of chairs if need be, we don't really need a table, though. It's nice to write things out. But and then I don't know, is there anything else I'm missing? Checking
crystal gave us was yet the happy hours. So we'll determine the we'll think through the cadence that would happen once a quarter by annually back.
Then, we're working on collecting more information on onboarding commissioners. So we have that as part of our work plan. And we have to, we have to do some work on that
time trying to onboard you. Because it didn't seem like it was in the team's file. And maybe you have a housing house somewhere else. Or maybe it was just because we we used to get three ring binders and then the pandemic happened and we didn't. So we would love to see what what if there's a digital copy of what was in the three ring binders, and then we could update that and maybe turning into a online three ring binder for people to easily access. I was on boarded during the pandemic and I did get a three back to you got it sent to you. Yeah. Oh, no, I think Oh, but also, I
think you want to pull out your binder.
The feedback I heard was that a lot of the information wasn't super helpful. It was very outdated. And that's okay. Like, I mean, that's the case, this work needs to happen. So I'd love that idea, but maybe living in digitally. And maybe there's a way for you guys to do a, you know, just do a first draft cleanup of what could be in them. Definitely be helpful in
the team's like, have I'm thinking I'm so old, like SharePoint kind of page or like I know, like a fire like I don't get a fire but maybe a welcome page for people that I don't know if there's something possible
to Crystal was working on a SharePoint, at least for the three of us. So it could be Yeah.
We have better luck getting into Google teams, and we get our Google Docs than we do.
can be challenging.
Yeah, but wherever we're allowed to how's it like we'll definitely do
the recent update from Crystal said she might have had a breakthrough. So
we did implement the body system in the past we had that just because it's like nice to be able to know that there's one person that you can, so I think that maybe the next exam we should and if anyone wants to volunteer to be buddies, you know, just let me know. But I think that As it's worked, it's sometimes really wonderfully in the past. And other times, it's like, Well, I never talked to my buddy, buddy. And because there's just a lot of it, you know, it's, it can be weird if you haven't experienced this before, how we do things and what we're in charge of, and how things forward and all that stuff. I mean, there are times when I feel like we're just always figuring figuring out how do we articulate it, you know, in a way, it was helpful. So thank you access. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? Okay. I think that we have to make a decision now that we have just seven minutes left on medium. The executive committee is going to update their 2022 work plan after we are able to review everybody else's. And our hope was that we were going to be able to accomplish that today. And so there's a decision to be made right now, which is, if we want to stay late and do that, or I think we also could ask all of the ELT groups to do so and to work in the interim, and then it would be due by our next exec so that we could formally adopt the revisions.
What will we do in the interim
between now and I think it's July 10, or 11th, or something like that, whenever, between now and the next exec meeting, that you would submit your work plan revisions, because what today is becoming outdated. So we're just kind of doing like a six month check in. So maybe things get struck, maybe you already finished some things. And you can say to accomplish them. But now what are we going to do with the next six months and what's going to be our priority. So that's what we really wanted to talk about, in our small group sessions to just get back documents. To get that back to being a real document again. And then even maybe admitting like, this is a little too ambitious for this year, or, you know, whatever the case may be, but just that the things, the items that are on there might need to be looked at once more.
Oh, I like meeting separately because, for instance, on the panel, Lucy and David and I, we don't have a meeting just ourselves to talk through things. So I think it would be good if we had more time, and that we could schedule our own meeting to really kind of dig into our goals.
Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Okay, a lot of how you feel about,
I feel like we can take it offline, and we can, you know, work together as needed for policy, at least from our standpoint. So I'm okay with that. I'm always in favor of, you know, getting things done. But I think we accomplished a lot a tremendous amount at this meeting. So I think that's, you know, kind of a heavy overload that maybe maybe, at least from my perspective, there's more reading between the lines and decompression of the information that was shared before we can really set to work on the work plans as as
an exec can only kind of do a draft until we see what gels updates are because we're aren't we have this administrative function right in it. We are positioned to support alts accomplishing their goals. And that's part of the reason why we have representation of all the groups on Exec. So
yeah, with crystal and that being there being here we could
definitely be QuickBooks actually wouldn't be July talk if, if possible, could it be July 8? And then we have a holiday in there. But if we plan to get this done in 15 minutes tonight, I think we can hope we can get it done in two weeks. Yeah. Online? Because I will say because the reason why I asked that is because it'd be nice to be able to ask for the exact committee to just have time to
initially send it to you and you'd send it through exactly do you want us to send
it to me? That's just fine. And I'll include it in my materials for you. And it doesn't need to be fancy or anything. It can be just in the body of your email. But yeah, and then I can just put it together and I can give it out that Friday, the eighth. So I would say by noon, Friday, July 8, have your already been your plan. And if you have a problem with that deadline, certainly reach out and it's okay. But there it would be great if it will be July, and we'll have six months.
Maybe just a notice to if we ever decide to do that again to do it at the beginning of the meeting. Reports will be really short. I thought it would work the way we decided but didn't so maybe we need to do it earlier if that's what we're gonna do well,
in the past, it's true that our small work groups happened Well, after our meeting, so that for a little while, but
we always determined like 20 minutes early. Yeah. That was back. We didn't have a heavy agenda.
Item, and then we can adjourn is the new commissioner updates. So we have got Hartley here. And then Samantha remind me Samantha's last name. I'm sorry,
Sensor. Sensor, mira,
okay will be joining us and both new commissioners will be appointed this week. Is that right?
Tomorrow, tomorrow?
Kind of cool, because a little ritual task to have that sort of needle. But good luck with that. And then I would say, you know, Scott, certainly feel free to reach out to me directly. I'm super happy to answer any questions in the near term, but we'll work then if that could be an item, an article based on a to work on who was the buddy and sure, you have an opportunity to do one on one and just kind of get caught up where we're at with things and stuff would be cool. Cool. Do you have any questions right now?
You know, I'm still letting it soak in. So I think I have most of the acronyms already. So that's exciting. So yeah, and I want to figure out like which alts might be kind of leading to a policy obviously. Happy Hour. competition to see who gets
any onboarding materials or anything?
He reached out to me. Thank you, but I haven't really gotten much beyond that.
Can I ask a quick Tina question, because Tina, I was like circling back back and like the 2020 days cast your mind back where we like kind of reviewed together some of those orientation materials when I used to be on access and engagement stuff. And we kind of went through with some edits. So I found like the old doc that has like the basic 2020 onboarding. I don't know if that's useful to share at this forward. That's
an access. Yeah,
I don't think it was. I don't think it lives on teams, because it was like I looked for it was the before I've been on SharePoint, maybe but hey, I've got stuff. I'm gonna send you a chain. Okay, great. Then share. I will right. Love it. Okay, sounds good.
That's great. That's like a nice shortcut
there. Mary, did you have any questions or anything you look like you're considering there for a minute. Okay, great. Good. Sure. Okay.
And then is there any new business to bring before this evening? Anybody? Alright, with that, we will observe that Right, right. And it happens more often than that