Yeah, so great example, with our we have worship wars here. If you're a Baptist listening, oh, yeah, we know this, right. So we would hear I would hear things like this from our seniors, hey, Blaine. I it just breaks my heart that we're not seeing the great hymns of the faith. Because there's so much truth there. And I said, okay, so couple of nuances. One, some hymns are terrible, right? We can just get out there and go, okay. And some hymns are great. I said, But what we've done in that is we've tied the methodology of Amazing Grace, How great thou art songs that we still sing in our church, but we've we've elevated them to the level of theology. And so what happens for a senior who's been in church for 5060 7080 years is there looking at the going, because you're departing from this method. By extension, you're departing from sound theological doctrine. And so what I would try to push back is go, Hey, challenge us on the content of our songs, and the content of our preaching. Right. And so like, you hold those two things to a theological standard, but the speed of the song The instruments used, right, that that is a method. And so that was a practical one that we would try to kind of unpack for our people. And then another thing that I would ask our seniors, I would say, hey, was there something that you guys did as young families in your 30s? That was, but I want two things. One that was effective one that was stupid, and they go, okay, yeah, we got two of them, right. So my dad's church, for example, they did a thing called that when I was in high school, they did the singing Christmas tree. And so it's basically really sketchy Baptist scaffolding with a little bit of garland on it. And then they would do a Christmas song, right? Well, in the, like, early 80s, when they started, it was really effective, right? I mean, people were like, my grandkids got saved in that, right? My I came to faith at the tree, right? I'm like, that's amazing. But the last year we were doing it, there's more people in the tree than in the auditorium. Like a really uncomfortable thing, right. And so I think the other thing, too, is I want to honor the ministry realities of what came before me not be disparaging of them. I think a lot of young guys make this mistake, they come in, they go, this is corny, and it's dumb. And I can't believe we do this. We're never doing this again. And what the people in their church are hearing is, so you think it's dumb, the way that my husband came to faith that year. And so what I always want to do is go, Hey, someone much older than you in the 80s thought that this tree idea was insane. They just thought that this was the wildest thing they'd ever heard. They'd never done this, who would build a scaffolding tree on a stage and sing from it? Like, what kind of I just would love to have been in that meeting? Right, where they're pitching that? And I said, but what did they do? They gave you the freedom to try something. I said, here's what I'm going to ask you to do in methodology. I'm going to ask you to to trust me enough in our team enough to let us try and possibly fail. Right? We're not walking away from thought, theological orthodoxy. We're not walking away from our philosophy of ministry to preach expositionally and see people get saved and baptized and discipled. All those things are still true. But would you let us try something here? In the same way that the generation before you let you try some things? And I think what helped our seniors is they, I think they saw that they went, Yeah, you're right. Like, there was a time when we were the guy I mentioned earlier, who said, hey, the things we prayed for he was my age when they planted the church. And so he's looking back going, man, we I can't believe we did that. That was crazy that they let us try this. And so I think that's another part is you're honoring the past while also asking them to come with you. And then the last thing I would say is one of the some of the seniors that we've talked to the cool things that they've seen is, hey, if people are getting baptized and saved in a regular basis in our church, now, I really don't care if I know the songs, honestly, there's a lot of things you go to see more of that, like I will, I'll walk away from a lot of things and, and when I first came to Eastman, we were seeing maybe two three baptisms a year. Last year, I think we had 62. And so I think that that changes the whole conversation. And so it's not because we're methodologically manipulating anything, but rather we're just trying to be relevant in a in an up appropriate way to the context and the culture in which we're living. And I think when people see that, that they're not being dishonored, that you see the value in what they have done that you. I mean, if I'm telling anyone who's in a replanting situation, man, be patient, be patient, be patient and be celebratory of all the things that God has done that got you to this place. I just want to I like regularly do that. Like, I'm just gonna regularly say, Hey, I am. I am not the one that is doing this stuff. I've been blessed to be part of this. But this story started way before me. I think when people feel honored, I think they're more willing to go hey, let's talk about what that might look like. And then I think the other part is your your if you got to especially a young lead pastor, he better be really quick to apologize. He's but he's got to be quick to own his stuff and go, Man, I was, I was dumb, wasn't it? And they go, Yeah, I was gonna be I'm sorry, I should have listened I, we tried it. It failed spectacularly. Right. And that's okay. Because if I think what I've seen is there's a doubling down, right, where it's like, he's rejecting kind of all the things that we value, and he's gone with, and you can leave. I mean, that's just so unhealthy. And I think Eastmont has been able to, by God's grace, kind of model A, we really do care for one another. And our seniors don't know some of our songs. Some of them think it's too loud. But man, if they're, I remember one guy coming up, he goes playing, I don't know the words, I felt like that was too loud. I brought my earplugs. And it's not loud. By the way, our church is not loud, but I brought my earplugs, he goes, but if people keep getting baptized, I'm in. And I'm like, I'll take that. Right. So I think that reframing and gospel language man, we were here for such a short time. Like, let's take ground, let's see people get saved. And let's head into eternity swinging. That's what I've told our team.