oh wait one second farfield here very muffled no bouncy months ago. I can resend it. Receive. You send me his name, resume it's attached to the email but the reason for this once the presentation but today
we're going to do how do we want to schedule him to appear at this meeting coming up next week. We want to try to schedule them to appear before the body in October
I think I can protect
this kind of just check within the system since the 17th is so close. Okay
Public Safety Commission. Barry Russell.
I was asked him on today's meeting. Today's presentation on PCP. If the auditor
is on here, I have not heard from her but it is on here.
It's not today's call which is
supposed to be an agenda to make sure that I did not make anything that you think needs to be corrected.
So once we get into the two categories of discussion that we approved today's agenda, whatever current corrections are, and we finally have one correction that was asking.
Well, that's on the September 17th agenda.
Are we expecting Leah here today his or her name on this agenda merely to tell us that she's supposed
to be here? She said she will be yes. She asked me to be on the agenda.
When we met with her this week from up Executive Committee. She said she was
smoking football traffic. There was a lot of football traffic.
Yeah, a lot on the train too. So
yeah, I'll second that. Did you include the edits?
Yes, we stayed with whatever.
Then I'll second that motion.
Motion and seconded. The agenda be approved with the nodige correction. All in favor, please say aye.
opposing please say aye. Thank you so much. Trying to see if she's coming. She responds to text messages which are quicker than phone calls.
First item on the agenda is September 17 agenda, which we've already I've already suggested a couple of amendments. Do we have any other resolutions? The one system to become
workers standards, meaning there's going to be the Gayatri resolution so that the rest of it resolution
which is K and Catherine.
So the dead tree is taken off. And then the next one, the LRB Tami resolution, just presented no precedent at all for this Saturday. Okay.
They'll be back. It's just that we want to get more clarity and information
but the other two will be first reads those are FYI.
Nothing for this time. At least two there's more. Surely. That's not true. I thought there were four resolutions and the two as we previously discussed,
ah, I don't recall the history of these things. But we hold them in committee until we agree in committee to bring to
Hawaii okay. For some reason I was thinking that too. Right? For the vote and
I was satisfied mull over them others at least more than
that, because these last students to that need more attention
last year, the ones that are moving forward to the last. I don't know why there are four on this agenda. And the only time I shut out four was when I sent out the cdhs committee meeting agenda. Well, you
said the last report is FYI, not provoked, right? Because they have not been to the full body. Okay.
Madam Chair? Yes, sir. For presentations, as a placeholder, I know it's just for notation. From our today's presentation goes. It was my understanding that the professionals have today from DCP may go before the body placeholder on the agenda What's the question please? So there's a presentation possibly given today about MPU boundaries. And so from what I understand from meeting with them as confining to us that kind of board was that she's meeting today with us, and possibly if we approve, should go before the general body so I just wanted to notate as a presentation. We are not there right now. As a placeholder, should we not put that there until we have that presentation today? Aside, when that will be to go forward? That's for
the September 17 agenda is yes, but I think we're waiting to see whether she's going to arrive that then the question would be willing
to share files that can be moved online.
So any number of things for 25 Okay.
All right. Can I get everyone to speak louder? This is a fairly large room and some of us have mask on and it does lower the volume. So everybody speak a little louder place especially you use the microphones. microphones here. There
are microphones there. Yeah. So
if you pop up these microphones right here, in front of you.
Yeah. Red is red is on
shut down, but pushes the Indigo
screens so just a little bit different in the Hello out there. Yes.
Microphone check. 1212
years is very good. I don't say that. Hers is very good.
Smart, like you because you're right next door, but I can hear her very clearly over here. I can hear Terry but I can hear him because he's right next to me. I can't hear it
in much more. It's also microphone.
When he's ready. So your mic is hot right now.
Yeah, think of red is hot. The mic is hot. So it's working.
I don't see a difference. But
I'm trying to tell you GLORIA keep it up. Hello out there. So don't push it down to now.
Turn it off without pushing it down.
Just tap it
if you tap it you muted Yeah, gotcha. Gotcha. Be nice.
Okay. She's about five minutes away, share another meeting. Okay, and then we'll answer your question. Rushing as to whether we want to put this on for the 17 also on the committee meetings during Have you gotten the location yet? Yes. Okay.
So the location is going to be at switchyard downtown so the address is one by one to turn to Dr.
Excuse me, madam chair. So we just jump all the way down on the agenda of today's agenda. Well, though.
Did you want to discuss committee reports? I mean,
well, yeah. But I'd like to go with the agenda just approved. So
the next thing of course, when people in the task force and this robber in this. Do we know? Reporting? What's where we're viewing the adjustments. We're working on? Oh seven we're working on
Okay, okay. Oh, yeah. So that's what I was saying just a placeholder as a presentation. But yes, that'd be gonna wait but I placeholder means that can be on or off. Okay. All right. So being able to account for time. That's what I was thinking.
Yeah. So you know, we can kind of place over there. When she gets here. We'll go over that. But since we were
on the general meeting, on the day,
look at today's agenda, the first thing up there is the proposed section two, four, okay. To the resolutions and presentations. Okay. So, do you all know the two of you do you know which board and taskforce representatives
I will start with those. We'll reach back out. Mr. Nuclear power Dr. Newkirk is in order to stay professor is woefully absent. He is been appointed to the ID office. We've not we've not seen he's not presented. This? Yes, sir. Is not because in have seen that a PAP since the appointment right at the year. We have confirmed that he is attending the OIG meetings but he's not providing a written report both Madam Chair myself had called this office and just seemed very disingenuous, because that's a very important office again. Jerry Newmark is a Georgia State professor.
I have also said, Jerry, a couple of emails, just asking him to please get in touch with me just in case his telephone number changed, but I call the numbers that I have been here before years past and his voicemail comes on. So I don't know why he's not reporting. He has not responded to any emails. His term is up next year 2023. And so I'm putting this out here for you all. To make considerations and which committee
is this Office of Inspector General?
I'll make a motion to recommend that we remove him
it's he's disappointed until next year, next year, who immediately
attended the meeting? Well, I think
he's a chimney boy. He meetings I checked out their minutes and their roster. He has attended the meetings and participating. He's just not reporting that Oh, okay. Well,
I think also we recommend not withdrawing nominate people. I don't think we have the authority to remove someone was there a point
we had to look at? We have to look at the actual the weights where you want to place some of these appointments belong to a bag right? To us. I will argue that we can remove someone
hurt part of the body part of the bylaws
will replace Yes. depends on the particular board. Sorry
for the bylaws, my local bylaws where it is by operation of law, three consecutive meetings to do miss York no vote no anything. It is by operation of law. So that is it again. I haven't looked at our bylaws. Most recently but I think that is something you should our meaning that I can tell you that okay. But yeah, there should be an again locally my bylaws and I think it's a good rule. Three consecutive absences
are appointees are not the same. thing as our represent. Right. However, appointees to boards and commissions are not synonymous with our members and officers
are lost and extended to appointees. They have the same kind of duty No, no.
No attendance requirement for our actual members. For our appointees? Well.
I would argue that the appointees are under a different set of rules there. They have responsibility, not necessarily for members, per se for attendance, you can't necessarily but I would argue that again, appointees generally have a duty of some sort. So their duty of some sort of thing goes to the benefit of
a recognized agreement and I'm going to talk to cow for a second drink.
Doesn't seem like this is the first time that this is happening without pointing. At one point we kind of had a discussion or what it would look like going forward setting some type of standard on terms of like, you have 30 days to report after you attend the meeting back to eight. XYZ as of right now, it's my understanding there's no I guess, best practice or even a bylaw that states that you must, I guess provide a report within X amount of time or is there
that's what I want to chunk How about the bylaws committee. We have never inserted into the bylaws and criteria for the appointees to report that to us. We tell them during the time that we are interviewing them, that they need to report back to AIPAC. And we also let them know that you know they are not expected to be every APEC meeting, but if they cannot come they need to send us a brief written report. All those committees don't meet every month. So we understand that. But ultimately, if they're not reporting to us, then that means I have to go to the head of that committee. To find out if they're reporting to that committee. And you know, they CRP. Mr. Lee is an excellent excellent gatekeeper of what's going on in his organization. And if they are missing meetings, or whatever, he sends us a report, and lets us know the number of time that person has been out the number of times they were late, and how they hampered the vote. And then, so that we know what is going on. I think that before finishing the new marks term is next year. I think before his term ends, we need to extend an invitation to the board board members for a replacement and give them an opportunity to put their names in the hopper and we just have met somebody else. I don't think there's a situation where we need to try to move anybody or whatever, because we can replay we do have that authority to replace them. If they're not
withdraw that motion. In a second.
Okay. Which one is the two of us first, so just go ahead. Each one of them.
So, a couple of things. There are, to my knowledge, three types of appointments that we made two boards. There are some appointments that are looked at they are the chairs so for example, by nature and being elected chair a path there was at least one board that she wanted to get a seat on, or she can designate to someone else I think that's important to serve Ontario. Then there are appointments that we make where they require appointments a path, those appointments belong to us. And then there are people who come to us right because of you are the citizen group who asked us to make appointments. But I think the first two are more so in our we have more when, for lack of a better word control that we can replace, if necessary. But I think that what we probably shouldn't do. We tried calling certain things they try emailing. Why don't we send them a letter, you know, reminding him that you know, just so that we recovered and so there is no surprise, yeah.
Emails. Why do you have to do a formal letter, you can prove notification
because they were pushing you're saying is that we are the email of course I have that. But when we send them a formal letter, we do have proof that we tried to try and meet with him and we have justification for removing
it sounds fixable. Or, or
I was just curious, you referenced meeting reports and whatnot. Where are those sent? I'm sorry. You You said that the acrp provides reports to you. Where is that sent?
They provide those when a person is ready is termed as they sent over to AIPAC, our report about each of our appointees in terms of you know their performance their attendance, whatever. And if there's someone that has not been performing up to par, they basically ask us when we would like for you perhaps to recommend someone else for this slot.
I will repeat my question. Okay. Where is it sent?
They sent it over in the form of a letter so it should be we have not had any recently. We haven't had anybody whose term expired. So the last one that we had is in the Google Drive, and that letter is sent in via from the
madman or people but it's not a report. It is simply the director of pricing a path that the appointees appointment is about to expire, wanting to give them ample time. Sometimes they can be reappointed, but at the end of a six year period, there is no under the ordinates nobody appointment. So it gives a peb sufficient time to start perusing amongst them to in order to satisfy the CDF acrp the requirement of satisfying it in a timely manner goes to war. So it's not a report she's calling a report but essentially in that letter it's the letter it outlines the issues.
I'm just getting to the aspect of it. I heard it as an ongoing communication from boards and whatnot. So it is at the end of a okay and it is sent via email. It is sent via post it is sent. Okay. It is sent via email, email, and it is
essentially a courtesy letter say listen, and it's really to protect acrp so that we can make quorum and decide that because it's so it's a courtesy letter just saying listen you know, this person's term is about to expire, we need to make quorum. So this is who they are what they've been oftentimes it is because it's at the end of six years. If it's at the end of three, they may make their own little determination as to whether they want me back.
So but to the discussion currently you have not received a report or a letter or anything like that, indicating that this person has not shown up Is that Is that correct? I'll be back to Dr. nuker. I'm just trying to establish a process so that it's the same no matter what she was
saying was that that particular boy does a good job of letting her know okay versus others. You don't hear anything. She has to go and find out.
And I hear that I'm just looking for systems of consistency. Those don't exist
in operation so one of the main points, going back to QA. What is the solution to this to ensure that actually I have my mom's arm?
I just wanted to make two points and I was going in the same direction when I think Dr. Newmark is fixable he's actually attending the meetings. So he just like needs election know what's there, but he's three quarters of the way. So I think that's a problem that can be easily fixed. Number two, putting in the bylaws requirements for appointees is difficult because each appointee is under a different authority. A Pam has liked just like
to share because I can receive
pointed out we have
our listing of the organizations that we associated with appointed, so we need to list those in our bylaws and indicate what our requirements are if not in our bounds. There should be procedures or something because,
well, us because we're members every appointee is not
exactly they're not a member it doesn't. And a peb doesn't have the authority to remove some appointees from boards. We have the authority to make the appointment but then it has to be approved by cdhs with the mayor's office, and we don't have the authority to remove it. So again, we're tackling something that's moving.
I mean, this sounds like a good endeavor to have that right like a good endeavor to actually form some best practices around this this Terry's point this is a solvable you know thing, but start maybe at the beginning when when appointments begin rather than at the end and asking people you know why they aren't doing something that actually happens
put somebody appointed somebody. We explained to them upfront that we do expect you to make reports to AIPAC. If you're not painful to appear at AIPAC, we will accept a written report doesn't have to be long and drawn out. But to let us know that you are attending the meetings and you're keeping us abreast of what's happening in those things. So everybody that has been appointed since I've been a part that has been a part of the instructions. My problem is we don't have it documented anywhere, right and best practices or anything like that. So what I'm saying is, if it cannot be made a part of the bylaws, then we definitely need to have a best practices that we can hand out to the appointees. So they cannot say well I do not know
so specifically to Doctor new marks appointment, the appointment is made by the mayor and council. A pad per the ordinance is based on nominations. So we have no grounds to remove anybody wants. There has probably been a point. I think we can have a conversation with any appointee, any nominee regarding what our expectations are, but I think we have to be cognizant of what we technically can a camera part. I think it's useful to also think about this a little bit more broadly, if the base itself is being communicative. Maybe we don't need something specifically from the person because there's a website, there's a newsletter, there's that information that's flowing and that person's available for conversation rather than a specific report. Suddenly, you
recommended that we take our time to contact the head of that baseball because they know
I said if the base is communicating, then we don't have to initially be so dependent on our appointee to get forward from that base. If the base is
what does that mean bases communicating to me the sciences of what the media says. When I say disagree, they are they come from us. The reason that they're there is that they are vicariously through us as an appointment as a recommendation. So they do have some duty to so he shouldn't have to go broadly we
can disagree. Right. What I'm saying is that the appointment in this case is from the mayor Council, we are making a nomination. I would
benefit from the APAC to the OIG. Is that not correct? I went up the weekend from being the appointing authority.
We're doing the work. What work we're doing the work of finding and vetting people, right. Yeah, and screening like we're doing the work so that the city doesn't have to tell us what you're saying. Right.
So my question still goes back to like, what is our solution to this? We need reports back from all of the people that we are appointed so enforcement is what's being present right now. There is no nothing written that says we need to report back after your meeting within 30 days. It says to my understanding that they must report back but when six months with a very long this thing is
there's no no reporting required. No, he says because we've got a broader base of the organization that he works with the media. So essentially, there is no enforcement.
What is our solution?
What do we want to do?
So let me let me finish. So I said nothing about the media. But if the base is issuing reports, their meetings are available, that documentation is going out. We don't need necessarily to put additional constraints upon our nominee appointee to give us an additional import if the minutes are available and such. I don't expect our new invest Atlanta delegate designee to give us an exhaustive report because that body has a website has information is communicating
on Bill Bozak. And he did just that he was an incredible appointee. He reported regularly gave us read reports and we saw he was an anomaly
and I finished up. So I think we can on a case by case basis from whatever entity we're appointing to we can figure out what makes sense. For instance, invest in Atlanta, the appointed from City Council and the Fulton County Board of Commissioners reports back to those bodies on a quarterly basis. I think we can figure out what's logical and what is within our purview to ask for, for different types of nominees, as Shane was saying, where we want more communication and we have more control. I think we can put in the bylaws or our policy manual, whatever, to be more specific of what those expectations are. But if the code does not permit us to do certain things, I think we have to be cognizant of what the code permits us to do and what role that person is serving. Are they our appointee, or are we making simply a nomination for somebody else to make that appointment? Because they're looking for a different representation that's from a General citizen body and not from the Bar Association, the business lead the Metro Chamber. Those are the other appointees for this particular body.
That makes sense, okay.
All right this week. We're not going to be here until six o'clock at this point. With your permission, let's stop here. And go ahead and head on presentation. So we can know what to put on the agenda for next week in terms of that placeholder.
Give you a one sentence historical common reports are used to create at least a half an hour ahead of time because at least one of these tables and maybe two of these tables would be for visual reports from the various AIPAC committees and other boards and commissions
longer than one sentence. All right, helpful. So is there a
stop now and the presentation and then we get back to the agenda as we take all that presentation on Saturday? Okay. Hey misleader.
Friends and everybody else I'm sorry that I was late. We didn't get to where they ran over. I'm sorry 230 and bring it over. So I understand you don't want to discuss the proposal to amend boundaries in the southwest
discretion. discussion was supposed to be okay.
Topic once more.
Yes, yes, ma'am. So let's see about a week and some change. ago I presented I began presentations to six MPU chairs and four council members to propose the realignment of boundaries in the Southwest for various reasons. Happy to dig more into that. I'm probably on top left and let y'all ask questions. I'm gonna talk less but present less than the time for questions. But yeah, we presented this on August 30. Tuesday, August 30. began having conversations to date I have had readings with five of the six MPU chairs. Four out of the six executive boards with one that's still being scheduled and one general body, I think, as far for council members have at least been briefed at the least. And to have gotten the full presentation. I don't know how to work the technology in here. So I can't share much you have to have a coding gear to be given. Yeah, I have it for the other room. Well, no pre pandemic. I had it for the other rooms, the instructions and the markets and all that stuff, but I never had it for this room. I don't know how it works here. Um, but in any case, the short version is that the bout the population of Atlanta is has shifted tremendously over the years and it's concentrated in certain areas. There's some pretty major disparity, although that's less of a concern. Frankly, it's not it's not the worst day I'll put it that way. Not that it's less of a concern. It's not the worst thing in the world, that you have some MPs that have 60,000, some that have under 2000, but it certainly is an ideal considering the criteria for which we work that requires the MPs have between 15 and 30,000 residents. There are eight GPUs to my knowledge that are not aligned with that criteria. I'm saying someone else there are eight that I can think of off the top of my head that are no more than that. It's more than that. There are many added ones I was thinking eight, with four being over 30 and four being under 10 is actually not the numbers so there's more than that that have less than T in any case. This is I I've identified an opportunity to do something with that I think will be really transformative. And I think that we have made the the Department of City Planning has a really, really great opportunity to make a significant difference in a way that we have not done in other places. That's the best way I can say that. My not diplomatic so just the second mistake. Yeah, so yeah, I think it's a really major opportunity to do something that hasn't been done before. And to get to begin to get us to a place that I would love to see us. operating as a standard and not as a one time deal or a special kind of situation. So yeah, we the plan is to realign the boundaries in the southwest to use Campbellton road as the growth corridor. a connecting line between the Southwest neighborhoods and cascade, but mostly Campbellton. To customize, which is very important for me or in my perspective, to customize and improve the engagement that we have with the southwest to customize and really transform training and education and above all support for the Southwest. Residents to ensure that the entire Southwest is covered by master planning, or small area planning, comprehensive approach for all of the southwest and to, above all, empower the neighborhood boards. It's been a lot of talk I've had, like I said tons and tons of meetings and the feedback has been really fascinating. But my key takeaway from it is that we the department has to do a much, much better job at educating the public or re educating the public on what the immune system is to Mr. Rouse point from last month's meeting, what the interview system is, what the interviews are, what the function of the interview should be. And then discussing that in comparison to the neighborhoods, what the neighborhood or its are, what the purpose of the neighborhood or what the function of the neighborhood or its are and what really what the key differences between neighborhoods and communities are. So the goal here is to empower the neighborhood boards and power the neighborhoods period. In a way that we haven't done or at least hadn't done in a while. The plan it has a we're obviously a lot on this obvious but we're behind schedule on the timeline. Originally, the plan was to do J June through December. We didn't start until like I say August 30, which are then Cassandra is September. So the timeline is kind of sort of somewhat up in the air. A little bit. Not quite cemented. Just because we started you know just about three months late so no point in thinking that you could be finished in the same timeline. So finish this process. Yes, that's correct. Correct. All right. So
I want to, I guess get more clarity on what is the driver of this and also to the criteria you mentioned population as one of the pieces of it. Also to in terms of CIT, that is the case.
Law 11 Out of the 25 of the US Department, so let me see a majority. And so why isn't there a holistic system wide approach? versus one quadrant of the city?
Okay, so I might have to ask you to repeat the question at some point because there were there's a lot in there and I want to start with the end first because it's funny mine. Would you interpret the question? Yeah, it was a lot.
What's the drivers of this? Yeah,
the driver. What
which part is the criteria the approach, looking at in terms of what's from 97? Is the criteria the way they really are, there's some things on the criteria that GCP is saying is more important than others. That's the question I don't want to assume about that. And the last thing is, why not a city wide approach?
Okay, so that's why we start with the end first.
So the learning that is at the center 15 to 30,000.
People or one or two to that. One or two of the population participants
in that 15 to 30,000. Correct?
Correct. So so we are as part of this project, planning to propose an amendment to the criteria as well. They are mostly really benign amendments are proposed amendments. I can tell you specifically what they are. The criteria requires that we use cent census tracts to designate if you use we're proposing to use neighborhood statistical areas instead and it says because most data analysis is done using NSA and not census tracts. We're also proposing to add the criteria currently includes similar population characteristics problems, goals and objectives expressed or existing desire to work together and had a population range of between 15 and 30,000. We're proposing to add shared spaces to that section such as parks, other public spaces, community centers, public transit, and all the things that unite people and make a community what it is we're proposing to add that as a criteria. Third, we're proposing to add a requirement to conduct a review of MPU boundaries within one year of the publication of the decennial census. So every 10 years, when pretty much everybody else in the US is looking at their boundaries, we'd be looking at the boundaries as well, reviewing them. This is for a few reasons, probably obvious reasons. But in addition to the obvious reasons population shifts and all that it also kinda helps ensure that we're not just looking at boundaries on a whim or just whenever it pops. up whenever someone gets the idea. Obviously, people don't stay in roles anywhere really forever. And these days, it's even shorter than ever before. And you don't want to have you know, every time a new person gets in my seat or in the commissioner's seat or anything in the mayor's office, or wherever that there's all of a sudden, a new look at the boundaries that no one was prepared for. Part of the reason and the conversations that I've had over the last two weeks. I've heard I've learned a ton heard a lot. And one of the things that I've realized I'm probably going to document this one day and read a book but one of the things that I've got from this is that people are a lot more comfortable with stuff when they know that it's coming. And I think cementing it in the criteria or somewhere where that people know that every 10 years we're going to be looking at boundaries makes folks a little more comfortable knowing that it's coming as opposed to be surprised like wow. And then fourth is looking at the population range as well it I am not convinced that it works. As it is I believe that it worked when it was written, but I don't know that it works now because we have neighborhoods that exceed that range. That single neighborhoods that exceed that range or will exceed that range I should say very soon. So yeah, we're also looking at the criteria for the population. Why not citywide?
Yeah, so if you're looking at those things, no, why not? Wait? Why does that you know, now,
do you ask me too many questions? The other one, so, hold on one sec. The resolution. Let me answer the other question one second. Okay, so why not study why? And then why not study? Why? Because the plan. So there's a bunch of reasons that the best reason to give you or the one that makes the most sense, I think, is that I don't have the capacity to do the city wide. At the Department of City Planning does not have the capacity to do the city wide at all. We have a very small team. A very limited budget and to do it well. We'll take money and people that I do not have that we do not have
to do a project of this magnitude sitting live at one time. We don't have the capacity to do so. Yes, yes. Yeah, and this is what I just to realize. It's definitely not just a realignment, but yes, to do any sort of real and I don't I don't want to get stuck on the population thing either. Because it's not just about the population. I feel like people are using that to almost like a gotcha card like debunked the theory type. thing. But this isn't just about population.
It's an important population and the other criterion or the other underlying issue is what population is one I think what I heard was something about NSA and neighbors statistical analysis. Gives you more hands on what what facets or your community where there is a greater need to include this district. Do they need some of those assets is something that's something that's so wonderful that can you help
me? Yes, but can I finish guys have to work with me today. Yeah, I want to try to get all the questions answered. And I don't want to leave without answering questions or any of that stuff. So let me just finish please Miss Miss Gloria this Alright, so I knew I was gonna forget what I was saying.
Just doesn't have the capacity. Oh, yeah,
definitely. Yeah, not at all. We don't have the capacity to do that. But it's more than just realizing boundaries. It's not just that and I mean, significantly bigger than that. Additionally, I've not heard any thus far as at this moment. I've not heard any really compelling reasons to weights. I've heard why you're doing this now. But I haven't heard compelling reasons not to do this now. And I will also points out that there aren't there isn't a reason to do it citywide anyway, there. Aren't there other pockets of the city that we're in. We definitely would love to do something like this. Over here. I would love to do this in my neighborhood. And in fact, that's my plan B. I would absolutely love to do this in my neighborhood. I didn't think it would look very good.
I would love to before this.
I would love to hear me. I would love to. I don't think it would look very good because it's such a benefit to the community that it would look like why you do what you're doing. And not everywhere else or not in other places that need it. But yeah, that's definitely the place to
start to challenge. I think that's one reason why you should get started to get this that equities. I think that all they're cracked if I look at the criteria objectively, I think that there are different things through our city and this could be applied to other places. And my opinion that should actually come before stuff was going on. And I will put up my bias by APU is literally in the middle of this and will be ripped in half.
You see equity in
terms of it looks like let's try this on the black box down here.
Yeah, I hate to hear anyone think that because
that's the way it looks. No door.
People in Atlanta that a lot more vulnerable than the wealthy people of the Southwest Atlanta. I didn't say that everyone that lives in the Southwest is wealthier right and listen book and well be that that's correct. Okay, so what I'm saying is, if we were trying to do something to take advantage of black people, it would not begin it
was more so book a prize. We leave that issue alone. But it makes the city scared to approach a thing for bucket. That's that's the way
it has not presented any sort of issue whatsoever, as it relates to my work, but Ken has all the resources that they need. Literally. I'm sure they would disagree, but from the outside looking in, they have all the resources that they need to manage development, to manage change, to manage investment, and everything else that goes to but can they have the resources already? To to manage that? The Southwest is not the same, and I don't think it's a good idea to compare the two. But to be clear, I'm not really here to debate, and I don't want to get into it. I just want to listen to what y'all are saying and I'm jotting it down. I'm answering questions with respect. So
when I say equity it's also about in terms of this is easier, because yes, the people are going to complain and gripe, but eventually we can do it and they will move on. That's what I've done like happens to my area, too. From government development from outside.
Okay, let me just ask a question what's happening to the community?
They come through an asset that's the thing like Council wrote this thing, defend the value using it's also the same thing that says gives us new marks like and again the builder comes around trains, not buses.
So when asked your question, simply so that everybody's clear. The plan was to start with Southwest section. What was section number two?
What plan is this?
What is section number two? Alright, if you started with Southwest, with 62,000 people in which is the largest of all European avenue to Southwest and is APG, the next target
I've had conversations with just an hour honestly. Yes. To answer your question. Yes. I'm not thrilled about that, because I don't think because I'm not thrilled about it. But yes, thank you next. I think I have a hard time with the conversation around. If you do like if you mail out 15,000 pennies to NPB then we want our pennies in the middle to like that's how it feels as opposed to thinking about whether it is necessary to nail out pennies here like is it needed to nail out pennies here? That's kind of where my brain gets stuck. But to answer the question, B ELFMR. B BLS is the next area that we're looking at or we would do this in again, I don't agree with that because I think that this, this program needs to be rolled out in communities that actually need to be strengthened, like the ones where I live and like the ones south of me.
So we go to the driver question but that also give us
all the questions. Look into keep getting behind.
So I saw mercy then I saw a glorious and then you and it gerade okay
well, he's the one who's most affected. So if there's more answers to come or more questions that I don't want to intercede,
too important point of order one question per person around to the next question come back.
Because we know we want to be all nice.
Can I have a hard stop? Sorry.
Yeah, so I just to speak to the challenge of what presents challenges to DCP. It would seem that in pu a and NPU B presented a larger challenge particularly around densification efforts to the extent that they reached out to state legislators and we now have state legislation regarding we cannot densify more as a result of their effort go I agree with you wholeheartedly that there are they have ample resources. I think the fact is, is that I hear the equity aspect of I would hope that the city would act in the best interest of leveling some of that out. I also hear that that you need more resources to do that. But I think that that is the the the ask of the city not necessarily at the citizens to solve that challenge. And I I worry that as this happens with with Southwest Atlanta to Rashid's point, the aspect of having it start on one end by the time it gets to be they've got plenty of time or F or M. They've got plenty of time to prepare and get more resources together to actually address this and to find it. Thank you. That was on my screen.
Just kind of trying to understand what are you to fight to fight the fact that it's coming first to that location versus which means there'll be the pilot test theory of how this works out before moving elsewhere. You know, I think there's an elephant in the room that is being addressed equity in part, but there's also some belief whether true or not lore that this area is being looked at and want to say targeted, but looked at because I don't know if you all saw last Monday's paper, huge article on the NPR news. And essentially, the bottom line was that it's been a conundrum for the city because on one hand, it's a laissez faire attitude on the other hand, it's still trying to attempt to govern and support. So that article essentially said and the bottom line is, what we do what the city does, and what nippy has you're pretty much recommendations. I mean, there was no control we can we mean as introduced by zoom conferences. It's an anomaly that I think for the last 25 or 25 years and 75 that the city has been trying to stop. I think this is just another one of those. Hold up. Just another one of those approaches. I can't tell you I'm well versed. I think most of this has come out in the last few days, that there is some effort to destroy PII. We are
live I'm very limited on time and I'm gonna
come I'm gonna cut this short but I think the elephant in the room is just that why that area? I think it's disingenuous not to point out that the biggest, the biggest voice of confusion and lack of support and how long does this go on these people reported here? They're everywhere. It's been a conundrum for everybody even for us, even for the city that I don't think it's our I mean, I'm not real sure but are routinely even some of us just apart from the dead. So to in my opinion, some of this may be directed towards again without anything other than no
door we have to become part of their solution.
You can put it any way you want to work all the time to solve this issues of the citizen.
I do actually have a question.
P could take them off and be 3000 residents and be fine. Well, well, Virginia, you
know, would you like to propose that? Sure. Okay, thank you. I'll consider that. Here's the here's the thing and I'm dead serious because we're inviting proposals and if that is a proposal to make one NPU out of the Southwest, I will consider that a serious
one, but up to
that interferes with that interferes though with the legislation. Regarding a PABX which I think is not a part of the criteria, but it is a part that interferes with the legislation regarding a pAB. If you read the code, it says that we have 25 voting members correct and each of those voting members is from an MPU chair correct or their designee. So you're going to have to change code. If you dissolve an MPU you have a you have one LIS MPU chair, that's code you're you're going to be non code compliant, unless you create another another MPU and that and that's fine. But I would not say that the code gives you that ability
made an MTU the code doesn't give the Department of City Planning for the ability to designate an MTU is that what you're saying?
I'm saying that there's a process that the code defines for you and it says that you have to define using your criteria. You also have to go before Are you
saying that the code does not give the Department of City Planning the authority to designate an MPU
I am saying that is part of a process that involves you City Council and the governing the residents that are governed by that that is what the code says
Right. And as she said unless there was another one that is created a mascot that
is correct. So is that part of this plan? Because I'm assuming that any presentation,
right so then we will be non compliant with code a tab. Then you're going to create a new MPU along could be
done concurrently? Yes,
yes. What I'm asking though, is that when you met with us a few times that has not been part of the compensation though.
It hasn't been part of the conversation because it's not a part of the Southwest real life. That's why it wasn't discussed in the southwest.
Every two years City Council goes through a redistricting in 10 years. So it's not rebuilding boundaries or districting in the city. That's not anything that's new. When it comes to the NP use my opinion is that's something that already should have been in code or whatever being done every 10 years. The fact that this is new and there's three months left in the year, pretty much and we are trying to redo the boundaries of all of the NP use, or or just the Southwest for that matter, but the long term goal is all of the NP use even today rather it's to add one subtract one or removed. The goal is to do something with my issue concerning question is I'm hearing that this has already been presented to NP use and what it also sounds like today is that there's more to this than just a week boundaries are very see but there's also strengthening neighborhoods, adding support, but what I'm saying is I have not heard any of this. Even as of yet no presentation, anything in two machines point at his meeting. There wasn't a conversation or a mention of how this was going to happen. Was there going to be another NPC added or subtracted whatever the case is, this is all very new, and for it to have started within one NPU before coming to the Atlanta flaming advisory board. That's a concern for me. It's evening. I believe this room should have been a great place to start a presentation about any type of rebounding of NP use, but now we've gotten to this point. Where are we in this room? Many of us are confused up in arms because this information is getting to us when again, we are the Atlanta Planning Advisory Board. It's my understanding that we help with the advisory of planning. So again, for this presentation to have started in the southwest. That's a concern for me versus starting here. And moreover, the larger concern is why wasn't this effort put out to everyone Hey, everyone, at the same time, there will be a rebounding or re whatever effort of the ACU. Everybody knows at the same time, that has not happened. So right now what's happening is information is being trickled out across the city that the NP use are going to be redistrict and we're starting over here. And that is that adds to why we have so much confusion with planning and process because there really is no process to it. And the processes that we seem to be following. Were come coming up with them along the way seemingly, and I'm hungry such as right now. We're just we're deciding right now to do a redistricting of the NPU boundaries. That's not that shouldn't be new. From the beginning of this year, we should have already known that that was something coming. The city council already knew that a redistricting was happening this year. These things aren't as new as we're trying to make them seem. So my point that I'm making is Overall I'm very confused or concerned at how this presentation started at the NPU level without starting here, and why did it start in one area of town without alerting everyone sitting like that this was about to happen.
Before she answers to interpretation of what actually happened. And you is that when they start this, you know we got the congressional redistricting goldmine. That hasn't been finished. We got the commission district redistricting underway that has not been finished. And we got the City Council redistricting and the city council one is the one that concerns me the most because they are fighting over landmarks. They're not invited over us the people they're fighting over landmarks because on a landmark will attract more, you know, Commerce to their areas. I can understand that. But ultimately, like you said, it is given knowledge that the following year after the census supposed to be following up this year after two years after redistricting is a given. Okay? You're right they have never, he has not been a part of the NPU system. And this is the first four. This is the first I've ever heard of since I've been around and the first for the rest of us. I think my interpretation of what originally happened was when they first started working on this and trying to come up with a plan. They were actually working and meeting once a week once a month every two weeks with NPR. Is that correct? Will you be
alright that's another okay that they mean
everything. They were constantly in meetings, and together, they were trying to work out some kind of system or something to help them or what aren't you answering? Okay, well, I've done this tell you what I know about it. And so you won't think that we have not been formed in some way. But now hold is we ate that.
We haven't. We haven't been. You have been okay. There's a big difference there.
lies being spread around this. I'm sorry. Lie is a strong word. But I wasn't raised.
I live please correct me.
I will think you have it. Or I don't. I don't know maybe that. Yes. There's a lot of misinformation being spread. I have concerns about the motive and the intent of both the misinformation that is being spread and the motive behind the folks that are spreading the misinformation if there are some historical implications around people making efforts to divide people and making efforts to destroy efforts to strengthen certain groups of people. That said, I can tell you exactly who knows what and when they do it and if it's not appealing or you don't agree with it, that is fine, but at least you'll know the truth. On Hold on. I will pull up my own calendar so I can get actual dates. For those that would like to publish the timeline here. August 30 is the date that I sent out the first bit of correspondence to anyone on this project at all that correspondence allow me to please please if you don't mind, that correspondence went to six NPU chairs and four council members. Then it went to a another council member and then to the APAC president. That is what happened on I'm sorry, was out on a Saturday. I'll look in a second. I believe it was August 30. I then said and by the way, this was not information. This was a request for a meeting. That's what it was on August 30. I reached out to the chairs, the council members then forwarded it to the a car president and then forwarded it to another council member and said I'd like to have a meeting to discuss this. I then began making phone calls and having meetings with the chairs and had two calls with two council members. Up to up to four council members, one call with the chairperson that same day. From then on that the rest of that week began my calls with the six NPU chairs that are impacted, and before council members that are impacted I've yet to meet with the fifth council member that I think there's two which is not impacted in any case. That is what happened. asked to be on the agenda for this meeting. So that I could discuss this with all of you. That is what happened, that there are these I'll make the judgment out of it. I won't call it I'll say interesting. There are these interesting sentiments around or themes around secrecy and not sharing information. Or doing this behind closed doors or I even got a question at an MPU meeting. Well, I'm concerned that you talk to the board about this. However long ago we're just hearing about it today. And it was two days ago like I'm literally one person and the conversation with the board was two days ago and here I am two days later having the conversation with you if you would have preferred for me to tell all of you at the same time meaning the folks that raised this, if you would have preferred for me to say all this to all of you at one time, then you probably don't understand leading an MPU or an organization. I believe my personal opinion that it would have been inappropriate for me to go before the general body without giving some sort of courtesy notice or heads up. I'm sorry, I've left out a couple of people. There were other people that have reached out to me that think about it. But I think it would have been inappropriate to reach out to the whole body without talking giving a heads up to the person that leads that body. That's my own personal standard
and I in fact finding
some of those schmalz were on the calls
and then it was nothing was already set in stone or anything like that is the plan they wanted them to review and give recommendations as they're asking.
Perception I think needs to be cleared up feedback heard from folks, that there's no opportunity for engagement. What is this? Like?
What, really Congress wasn't what I was told. What I was told was that with no public hearing, there'll be no public. There'll be no public hearing
anyone from planning? So planning told you that? No, sir, no, sir. No one from city planning ever said that there would not be a public discussion, hearing meeting whatever. And if that were the case, if that was the understanding or perception that anybody had, it would have made sense to confirm that first before spreading it further. So that's just not in the timeline that's in the presentation, as we have an actual presentation, and the timeline includes public meetings in the presentation.
What's the recommendation? Recommendation? There
is a presentation that's out there right now. Yes. I have not received that presentation. Okay. I would like to know why I have not received a presentation that has been given to others it has not been given to as been presented. It has been presented. Why have Why have I personally not received
because you're not a part of one of the NVQs that is impacted by this. Number one, that's why you haven't received it in the last 12 days. Literally, it's been 12 days. 12 literally, not not a year. It's not like we've been talking about this for a month and you just didn't know. It's literally been 12 days. Mr. Sharp, it's posted
to the best practices. I actually brought up and talked about registering AP US and allowing borders. And I remember you stopping short of saying that there's more to come they're never followed up. You never, you know went further about it. And I say you know, but what you said was the site include that as part of the best practice. Certainly. No, sorry about the
yeah, I think I definitely requested the presentation. I never got a direct answer about it. I requested
given to the MPU Rs in the southwest
of the API president I requested. I do not assert that she did. I asked you to
ask you could you ask me what I did? Because
that is the method of communication that we are supposed to be
right there. Forgive me.
Well, and I asked for further clarity. I have that's convenient. That's so convenient.
can be shared and what can wait Wait Can it be presented to the body as it's already been presented to other bodies?
Someone from my staff will probably be available on Saturday.
Okay, that was the what are the questions that we were asking whether the presentation was going to be done on at the general meeting. So
we will have someone here to use the system because without seeing the slide presentation. I think a lot of people are not getting all the facts and figures.
We haven't even gotten to half a bit because of having to overcome misinformation is a major challenge for sure.
An easy way to do that is to share the information to the public
to confirm before spreading misinformation that's even easier actually.
You could you could provide that to the to the public. It would be if you could provide it to the public. It would be grant provided to the AJC. Okay, great. I look forward to seeing that.
I think the thing is at the end of the day communication is not being shared as it should right like we can agree with that. Right? No matter who we want to point out. The reality is that information is not being shared. It's not being gotten to the people it needs to get to. So I think that is something we certainly need to address and we can go back and forth about the guy that at the end of the day people here don't have the information. We're not receiving the information. I heard what you said that you shared with the President. Maybe Madam President did not share it with us fine, but it still comes down to what you said was that you provided her with information that you will that some presentation was going to be done. Correct.
I did not share a presentation with Miss with Ms. Phillips. I did not share a I'm pausing because the word share one
of many she has to meet with That's what she said
in that meeting. Almost 12 days ago I asked to meet with the APAC executive committee. Okay. This is that meeting.
Where's the presentation?
The presentation is the actual presentation.
Where is that? It's
here you Oh, would you like to come around and
watch that that's what we were going to be
presenting. I don't I don't know how to use the technology but come on over
to a song. You've got all of our emails, just email it
to you. But one thing is okay,
can you can you please give the correct context for that because that sounds really disparate.
For you've met with us that predictable is not sent to us.
That is correct. What is being sent is the fact sheet that has been it's a different format, the same information. That's not a PowerPoint. It's in a public friendly format, which is in the form of a fact sheet. That's what I told Mr. Russian and every other NPU chairperson that they would receive a fact sheet or the same thing that a person already it hasn't been created yet. They're still working on it. We have a very small marketing team, a very small GIS team, a very small NPU team. I really did do a terrible job at making y'all think that I can move mountains over a small step. We have
a small I can email people excuse me, you can email people when I haven't raised after you've already presented. She's presented it already. And I'm tired of her repeating the same thing. Over and over again. Just listen, it's already been presented to the other MPU as you put in this email that
isn't here. Isn't being presented. There's no presentation there is
already been present. Did you listen? Did you? Yeah, okay. How do you don't come for me? Okay. That's fine. That's fine. Go ahead.
Okay. I don't want to have to get an act like
me, but I will. Okay, that's, and my civil human beings come down. I'm going to allow a couple of more questions, specific questions. We're not going to sit here and argue like copy a bunch of children. Okay, please. Yeah. Do we have any more questions for this? Group? You have a question jam?
Yes. So what we're talking about now is a grand realignment of NP boundaries based on macro data. But these boundaries have been fixed for 40 some odd years and there are a lot of problems with existing boundaries simply because of development that has occurred in that time. And you and I have a conversation about this that in fact, it's a boundary between MBU CMUD that runs through people's homes so that they live in one MBU and they bathe in another and my concern, and it's sort of a pet peeve with me is that a lot of these small, easy, agreeable fixes, get lost in the grand fix, and spend 20 years in the wasteland because you're arguing about grand realignments and never actually get fixed? And the example that I use just before this meeting began was the typo in MRC two limiting residential FA R that sat on the books for 20 years, even though everybody knew it was there because we were waiting for a grant fix that never arrived. Is it possible to separate the little fixes from the big fixes since we've never moved the boundary before and a lot of the little fixes aren't even controversial.
Is that the question? Is it possible? Yeah, absolutely possible. And that's and pretty much what I said to you when we do these little
fixes. Our apps not to be controversial. Could we not move that head of the brand fix us so that at least we've established how am I go about being at the boundary? What are
the little fixes? I don't know that it's
living rooms and dining rooms are in two different ipus ought to be able to move that boundary. So that they live in a single MP? I don't know when I
would agree. That's why I'm that one. Yeah. Because my wife is in
two districts. Yeah. Well, it's so show. I mean, the smaller fixtures are fixtures that there's no controversy you
can all live in one you may live in several distances.
about individual people use home Junior stand in two different NVQs because the line goes right down the middle their houses.
So those boundaries definitely need to be
so those boundaries make no sense and they exist because boundaries. are drawn on plot lines, last year assembled, redeveloped and suddenly people's home sat on and you
know, as I mentioned, it's absolutely nothing of interest in making those kinds of amenities as well. I would not be of the belief that it wouldn't be controversial. I think if you want to move a period over to spaces, it's going to be controversial as it relates to NVQs. It's just that just what it's like to
argue, but what I'm suggesting, what I'm suggesting is that it's out to be a lot, a lot less controversial and perhaps moving first. Doing those fixes first, ahead of grand fixes, would facilitate the whole process. And
as I told you the other day, you get agreement from that other
I've talked as I talked about already, there was no argument we had
a nice conversation literally do that on Monday. Like that's not a problem. That's these are not these are not problems that don't go bad, right? There's not a problem.
You can when you say you can literally do that meaning
personally, yes, I can stand in the middle of town square and declare that this section of NTUC is now officially in PUD. And it is so
that's a little bit trouble. It's actually
it's already done because I didn't want that. Done. Okay. It's official. Mr. Car. Thank you. Seriously, Mr. Martin, we can we can do that we will
who will allow us to shorten the successful 30 years that should have been discussed over 30 years ago to pick up elephant in your elephant because it has to do with citizen participation and Lea people in governance are doing for us and this is one of the first times well there's been others our reaction to what they're doing and what they should have done a long time like a lot of people in governance such as is that if you get convicted in court, you're put into a cage instead. of dealing with the overall systemic problems. We still have systemic problems, lots of them in this city, all over the world. And this is a good negotiation process. Good questions, good pushback, and this is what it takes. And these problems are not going to be solved in our lifetime. making incremental progress. We've come to a solution for as Jim says, Let's do the easy ones first, but keep in mind we got bigger ones.
So if I may respond to now maybe not respond to this because they get to see your face which by the way a long time. It's really long time Yes, so So the that was gonna happen. I forgot exactly what I was gonna say. But you sorry for it. It'll
come back. Well, you know, I shouldn't I looked at the history, what 25 years ago. This city is only done. It's grown in the last 20 years. I think with that growth has come all kinds of revisiting and for what did that just hear a linear answer just outline three different entities the congressional district, the city cap, these these groups are currently under review as to how those lines are drawn. So no.
It helped me understand what threshold districts have already been decided. County Commission districts have already been done. City council and school board opted for discussion
within the last 12 to 24 months. Is that correct?
We're right there with what we're behind. They've already been at
it, because there's been a less safe bear attitude visa vie these NVQs coupled with the fact that basically we had no voice. There was no participants.
Why I'm just saying we're
not sure about the car. I was. So we'll say so what Mr. Carr said was, I mean not it's not a direct response to him, but it prompted a thought in my mind that Mr. Carson, the government is doing for us what we should be doing. People in government that yes, people need to for y'all, but you should be etcetera. So that actually was the very beginning to submit the hunters question about what was the driver? That was the first driver. Moment of truth. Yeah, I know many of you know from that anyway, on the west side, and which is why I considered that my plan B because I would I would love and honestly prefer to roll this out on the west side where I live anyway. I think there will be some concerns if we did that from a different kind of concern if we did that. But in any case, I I know firsthand, from experience what happens when change occurs in a community and the community as a whole not pockets in the community. But the community as a whole is not prepared to meet that change or to manage that change. That's what I've witnessed when I came into this role and most of you were around and activated and know that when I came into this role I attended every single MPU meeting and I did that for quite some time. It took me a while to get to ABC and E because they meet the same night. My neighborhood needs some of that stuff, but I think it's all DNP us and immediately begin the work of building relationships not with it. Not just with empty chairs but with the empty use themselves with a path etc. One of the very first things that I noticed that that troubled me deeply is the disparity and the inequity to your point watching the way some NP use process bedded managed applications and the way others processed, bedded and managed or didn't manage didn't process or didn't bet applications with deeply is is not was is remains deeply troubling. Watching trying to get the words that won't get me into trouble here, watching groups of people that I can personally relate to not knowing how to manage incoming change rapidly incoming change gave me nightmares, those really often it's just it remains hard bottom line and I began almost immediately from 2018 by 1990. Whenever I came to this Ross people's mentee, from day one began thinking about how I could make a difference what I could do to fix this because it hurt to watch people that have all these tools and all these resources and really know how to ask all the questions about what with Sony and maybe that and then other people staying asking about the pink color and the other things and you're chuckling but you also know that I'm telling the 1001 of those. I've been in a lot of them. I've been in a lot of these NVQs where people are talking about making transformative change. And there's an hour long bickering about the color that the thing is going to be painted and it's painful. It's actually painful watching that happen. So in any case, I started thinking about like, what we could do came up with any university to try to teach people how to do this. And then of course, on the southwest in addition to you know, there's some really, really strong opinions on the second the southwest of the states.
And some things I guess,
saying, No, yeah, you guys have some strong pockets and some pockets that could be strengthened. But the what put southwest kind of on the radar for me and for the department I think is in that the Southwest is facing change. And my neighborhood where I live I will say already faced it. We're still in the middle of it. And it's it's not necessarily too late but it wouldn't we wouldn't be at a whole different position where I live. If the city or somebody scratch that. For those taken out stress the city part. We will be in a whole different position if someone had made some steps to strengthen our area instead of set up for success. That's what this is about. This is about strengthening this area. Giving this area the tools the resources and yes the alignment but the tools, the resources and the support from the city to prepare to manage the change that is inevitable to things that have not been discussed because I'm spending more time cleaning up you know emotions and misinformation and all that stuff and I'm really spending and and and managing disappointment because some of it to Mr. Sharks point some of it is absolutely valid. But the parts that haven't been really discussed is the benefits that it brings to the South that I believe it was braids in southwest which is why I would prefer to do it in my neighborhood first in my my area, not my area first we're looking at we're looking at how household by household engagement that I believe and wish could be done citywide or by St Maarten to join the city. Well, I don't have the budget to do a mailing to 500,000 people well not that many households but how many households there are? I don't have the budget to do that.
I'm sure you're doing because the MP use.
I don't know what that means. But I don't have the budget to do that. As I stated. I think we got the FPU what does that have to do with the budget to do a mailing to all the households what is a pattern is more than just I don't understand what you're saying. But I don't have a budget to do a mailing to every household in the city. And I know that because I've gotten told this already and I've tried that one several times. Mr. Carr, I don't want to have a debate in a discussion. I really want to say what I got to say and like I said take questions and go like seriously, I don't want to have a debate. Well, I'm gonna have my phone number and we do this all the time. Thank you seriously. In any case, I don't have the budget. What bills are not free, it still cost me money to put something in a water bill. I don't have the budget to do a city wide mailing to do city wide engagement at the level that I would like to do it at the level that I think neighborhoods need but I could do it in a smaller area. And this project allows that and other things this project allows for all of the areas that are in the southwest to have a direct touch point now almost to have a direct touch point. With Campbellton road which is the goal for yourself over there is directly increases significantly. The number of individual people that can now weigh in on what happens on Campbell to row it provides a situation where you now have five strong, stable solid NPU in one area that can now manage. You spoke to Campbellton roads BRT or whatever that I don't know what the name of the school was, but that thing that happened over there, my perspective is probably different from a lot of other people's. I feel like that didn't have to go down that way. And if we had really really solid stable groups over there that were widely regarded, respected, listen to that could have happened differently. I'm not saying I can't predict what the outcome would have been. But I think it would have happened very differently. I said the same thing to my neighbors. When we experienced something similar. We were not prepared with Microsoft purchase for you what will forget that before Microsoft was choreographies purchased that because when the earthquake part of the purchase that site when the park was opened, the residents over there were not prepared to manage that change. Hence where my neighbors and my people are right now. If we had a program like this in my area, torn apart, so for cardiovascular for my persona, things would have I believe that things would be different and I would like to set you up the steps to avoid having to look back and say it should have or I wish we could have listed this.
So it's all part of
one proposal. You know, unfortunately it's a Mr. Sharps point, probably because things could have been handled differently on our end, but unfortunately all the focus is on the boundaries, and not on the the overall program of engagement of education tailored specifically for the Southwest. Education specifically and Chinese pacifically for the Southwest support, specifically city support city planning support specifically for the Southwest that doesn't exist in the North East or the Northwest when the south keys are essential Atlanta or anyplace else. It is going to be just in the southwest to strengthen the southwest and prepare the southwest to manage the change that is coming. Why not Buckhead because they don't need it. Why not Eastside because they don't need it like yeah, the numbers are off. We could look at that we could fix that. I could we could come back tomorrow, but that doesn't prepare the Southwest for the change. That is very quickly come in that we worried about when people tell us to worry about the wrong stuff.
And folks can we be mindful of Saturday?
Back she'd be ready by the meeting on Saturday.
I will commit to ensuring that she should have been ready. In fact, when I told Mr. Russian on this one I told Mr. Ryan on the 30 I believe is that the Kashi will be ready that Friday. That's the commitment that was made to me obviously was not ready by that Friday. I will personally commit and if it has to be hand sketched by me it will be ready by Saturday
follows as we do so back to blue on Saturdays meeting. Can we all consider questions addressed to Leah during this next few days period? Some of those questions others in the audience may want to know the answers to and as soon as we can address those questions in writing to her and get a response back. It may be easy and less time consuming if we disseminate those in advance of the meeting so that we're not there three or four hours to
two other things on that on that point. If I pick one, I may not be the person that's here on Saturday. So it would be helpful to have the questions in advance so that I can make sure you don't get the answers whether I'm here or not. I forgot the second thing because I
absolutely can on Saturday will this is it possible that DCP can leave the presentation would tell the people that this is not about boundaries that this is about strengthening neighborhoods just in general like that's what this is about you for me. That's what I heard at the end of everything that you said right and I didn't hear that began. I didn't know that all I've seen thus far is worth renewing boundaries.
Yeah, you write in anything. What
What's the overarching thing that we're talking about is we're trying to strengthen neighborhoods. We're trying to strengthen NPS and in particular, we're trying to strengthen neighborhoods in NPS in a certain area of town, but as you mentioned, historically has not had the resources, etc, etc.
And apparently doesn't want them now. I don't
know that but I think that that's for me. I'm a little my guard is down more to understand where we're actually going. What are we actually doing with this and it is we're looking to strengthening our neighborhoods and give MP us the tools that we need. The boundaries are just are all a part of essentially what we're supposed to be doing every 10 years anyway.
Anyway and the factories by the way, the my I said this to the meeting that I had before I came here. My My focus is on the neighborhoods. The mayor's focus is on the neighborhoods. I was interested in empowering neighborhoods in the US such as groupings of neighborhoods with a specific function. And with all due respect to everyone that I've talked to in the last two weeks, I've heard some really good feedback I've modified which is a part of the reason I'm kind of glad that the actual presentation didn't get mailed out widely, because I've changed it a dozen times from hearing from people Oh, that was the second thing I was gonna say. Sorry that
sounds good to me. Thanks because I think that is the highlight I was trying to I was trying to quash the noises are saying that that was so I think a lot of this Discord is kind of arose from just that.
Yeah, I think that, you know, it's important to remember a lot of the feedback that I'm that I've heard the pushback was around and I don't forgive me. I'm asking for grace in advance. Forgive me if I don't say this in the most diplomatic way. In general, it's my weakness. I'm not a diplomatic person. I do try because I know how it works. So I try to be diplomatic, but I'm not personally very diplomatic. That said a lot of what I've heard has been like something that doesn't have a function like you're a collection of grouping of neighborhoods, and you're, you're grouped together to plan a community like that. That's what you're glued together to do. And I get that when you're doing this work. You do form relationships, no question if you're doing it well and you should form relationships. And you when you do it for a long time, you get accustomed to things and you have stuff that you can claim and that has your thumbprint on it like we did that. And to hear that that that you did is no longer in your grouping can be painful. But at the end of the day, the NPU serves a purpose. It is a function it's not a civic club. It's not a social club, or anything like that. It's a grouping of neighborhoods, that the power needs, the strength needs to be in the neighborhood. That's where the power needs to be. And we need to just group the neighborhoods together in ways that make sense and that's what this is about. Like you know you you're hearing it and hearing all this stuff about black people and picking on black people and and all of this stuff. This is it. This is done. This will strengthen black people in the Southwest in a way that hasn't happened and give you resources and support in a way that hasn't happened because this
was this was designed to quash the noise. NPR that that was the overwhelming medical freedom
I do think I mean, I think that and when you say elephant in the room, I thought that that's what you were gonna say. Because I don't want to pretend that NPR is not a major part of this. I don't want to give the impression that because that's dishonest. There's not a person in this room who has who has ever been lied to by me. I don't do that. I would rather Shut up than tell the lie. So I'm not going to pretend or give you the impression that if you are is not a part of this obviously me you are is a part of this. But what really it is about is strengthening the neighborhoods because even if you are if you are has think 10 Now, neighborhoods if I remember correctly, maybe seven I can't remember but I think it's however many it is these are strong neighborhoods. These are good, good neighborhoods. And I've heard from those people, the neighborhoods and MPU are they don't want to be a part of mess. They don't want to be a part of bullishness and it's not the neighborhoods that are the neighborhoods want to be a part of a functioning strong MPU so that they can make a difference in the southwest column. Like yeah, it just that just sounds cool. These people talk to him, they will tell you
Okay, so how do you account for things such as Melbourne dot Park, which zips up right now are the rendering the draft will not meet up anymore? And we have a huge grant that we've worked on. Community Improvement District that has formed is now a part of our our MP. Money doesn't really was the money that's been raised there in terms of we have a Campbellton role from additional we've raised 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of dollars that will literally cut off the development that we were focused on the MPU like our thing is, how do you account for these things? And your decision making because when you look at the drawing, it does not like it has been accounted for.
So it wasn't accounted for in the initial drawing at all. It simply was not partly because I don't personally believe that it should be that's just my personal opinion. But I've had no less than 12 conversations with Mr. Russian. He has proposed I don't know how many different variations of the map we're meeting tomorrow in a work session with all the NPj all of the chairs for the Southwest are coming together in with a work session to actually draw out different scenarios which is another yeah different configurations of the of the boundaries, which is another that was the second thing I was going to say a little bit ago. I if I don't correct anything else, I want to correct the lie or the misinformation. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that actually wasn't allowed. I think that was a misunderstanding. So my apologies. But I do want to correct that miss understanding that there is no public engagement or whatever the original and I can literally show you this right now the original presentation includes a timeline that as public engagement, it has myself or someone from my team participating at every MPU executive board and MPU general body meeting, plus at least two public meetings, at least I'm not sure if there will be a third but a minimum of two public meetings, plus presentations with a pap, all of that is included in the initial presentation. So how the how it got lost in translation. I'm not really sure, but it's not true. There was never you know another thing I heard is that the city is shutting this down our throat so they've already made the decision and there's no again, none of that is true. And I would this is a personal request for me to you. I would really appreciate it if you hear something that doesn't sit well with you. Or if it just kind of contradicts what you know about me, just please call me or email me most of you do that. But please just call me or text me or email me or something. And I can clarify right there on the spot before people end up up in arms over something that's just not true. And after three years, I would think that y'all would know me a little better than that, but that's okay. I won't take it personally.
Within the initiative impeded by the not able to be worked out through this part.
So the district would no longer be happy.
With that kind of initiative and funding, why can't something be worked out? It could.
It could but the most recent version that we are working from includes include includes Melvin drive Park in what
will be p would be p
because the back up
Yes. The most recent version that will work in from it does. I don't love that version. FYI. But it is an option.
And I want to be clear, I actually am for reapportionment. I told me that it makes sense. I don't care if I go to Cuba. I don't. I really don't. I've told my chair this, but I'm in a strong neighborhood with almost 450 households.
My question is whatever this is, you're likely not the only NPU that has some initiative that she
doesn't have that cutest. She has a park they made up the queue is literally 70 100 But they don't have this like literally like the size of this room. You have almost study neighborhoods and I'm not being funny, right but I'm saying it shouldn't have been formed to start with honestly, the bigger picture this you want to give you didn't do that. But it's 1700 residents. Do you
like these going to involve other initiatives and working out how to proceed with funding and what
my support like seriously the support that the meeting I had before I came here they asked me manufac I wrote down all those questions. One of the questions that she asked me was what type of support will the city provide? And when we receive the support that we need? And that was a I was so excited to be able to answer that question because again, this comes with I don't want to say unprecedented support because it's really not the way the system was set up. Before operated the way I kind of think it should be operating today. Plus or minus a little bit. But this brings us closer to that to that vision of being able to provide centralized support for areas of the city that specifically focuses on what's happening in that area of the city. Not not an MPU planter, God bless them all who you know, whose whole job is to just attend a meeting and kind of maybe answer technical questions, but mostly take notes on what the vote was and bring that back like that. We got to think bigger than that, especially when in places where we have a chance to do something about it before it's too late. I hate to use doom and gloom language but I literally see it as I live in that place every day. I drive into my driveway and leave my house every day in a place that doesn't have to be what it is. It didn't have to be what it is. It's someone from some where would have helped the people that lived there.
So I can say now that the Neighborhood Empowerment effort has began, because that's what that's what we're this is the start essentially it started.
I don't want to take that from the days off. Okay, but this is planning this part in power. This is a beginning. Yes. Okay. Planning part two straight up empowering neighborhoods. And again, I need it when I say this, I don't mind. It doesn't if meet for whatever reason, if God comes down and it's like, no, we're not doing this and sounds like okay, no problem. I'm moving into the west side where it will quickly be sucked up like quickly. And I'm thrilled to do that because I actually propose something very similar. As a resident not as a city employee. The year before last for the residents around the West South Park like we need a we need a dedicated planner. We need a staff person that can coordinate all these efforts that everybody is doing around here somebody that can speak to the housing and the transportation and quality of life. For the public safety and all of that stuff. That's the vision. That's my vision. That's what I want. I can't do that city wide, y'all. I mean, it's just it's not possible and it drives me nuts to hear that I can't do that city. Wide, just not possible. Not today anyway.
consideration in this process to the difference in the
erase, I'm sorry.
And I don't even know how much of a difference in governance processes between the different NVQs in that I could easily have been a source of future friction. If I'm in an MPU where everybody gets to vote and I get moved into an EU that's represented and we get
we had that conversation. So in my discussions with the folks on the Midtown north side, Buckhead I've met with a couple of the people in a few of those MPs on that side. And that was one of the first conversations that we had around that. You know, if I'm being honest, I anticipate a little less of an issue there, simply because as they put it themselves, like I just will ask that planning will leave us alone to work it out ourselves and on my own spin. Let's work it out for yourself. I love that idea as to where it's supposed to be but yeah, to your point even in southwest things don't all the MPs are very different. The bylaws are different, not drastically different, but different. Nonetheless, the culture is drastically different in those MPs for sure, which is why that person in the last meeting asked me what kind of support we will provide and we're providing all the support to avoid conflict what I would not ever do. I think it would be a reputation killer career killer. All it is probably a heart attack in the inner battle is spread a problem out in the southwest so that instead of having one problem with you, I now have three more problem in the US. I wouldn't do that to myself or to the city or to the southwest so yeah, there's definitely
six or 700. Just
to clear up. What I was told was that there will not be a meeting where, for example, if I'm going to move to Q, I can Q and R P and whoever was nearby could get together and have a meeting and we understand what's going on collectively to get each other's feedback. But I was told that you're going to meet with the executive board and individual GPUs and then it was on a multiplier because of cycle time. So I will go back and correct that after today's meeting
and show you exactly what is on there. That's not
what I was told. And I will I will correct that. With my company.
Yeah, that's just not true. I'm talking to him because he didn't lead to any and in fact, the original non original, the current one and the old one all of it hasn't changed, in that we're taking meetings with neighborhood associations, civic groups and business boards, upon request. Over attending all of the APU meetings. All of the exec board meetings were were allowed to attend or invited to attend or whatever, and any other meetings that were asked to do, plus the public meetings and all of that is before implementation. Then once there was the rollout, there are meetings then public meetings with folks that are now in the new MPU, whatever, to sort through those issues to work through all of that to talk about bylaws and elections, and all of those other things that need to there is just no way and I get I get people's perception and experience with I'm not gonna say just perception. I get people's experience with government. I get that I also get me. I know me, I believe this. I'm working on this. And there's just no way that I would, whether a stroke of a pen or legislation or anything, just do this big thing and then walk away because I could figure it out. Have fun. Thank you. That's I mean, that's not me. You guys get somebody for the soapbox, everybody who can delegate who has support from claiming that you ever
see me everything just leave me all weekend. Like literally call me at seven in the morning and prior to live that was
what I'm saying. My chair calls me and says I know you when you heard and I haven't heard that. I'm like, No,
I did this. Yeah, no, that was my bad.
No, no. And then when I pick up the phone, and I call my president, and I'm like, Oh, she's already aware. No, you didn't reach out to me, nor did she.
That was my bad tweet. I read the courteous thing. That was me. That was me and I said that to you. To be fair, I apologize to you at that other meeting. Because I should have called you a MC to call you I intended to call you but the last few days have been very hectic. Very hectic. Lots and lots and lots of meetings plus my regular work on top of that, but to be fair. You would not have heard before Mr. Russian Anyway, like I said, my relationships that the relationships that I've built, since coming into this role have been with the chairs first, I'm going to call a chair before I buy a candy bar and an NBU like I just that's just my own personal standard. That's my philosophy. If I know anything happening in NPU. I'm going straight to the chair first. But after that, I should have called you and I noticed that
I really liked the TCP has been the ire of many in the last few years but I'm telling you I was in one of those interviews where until we got to Boston sets basically focused on support. It was horrific. We didn't get the impact grant because you get one volunteer care who disseminates none who's a volunteer. So, again, I'm giving you I give you that support because I felt today I walked into a hornet's nest affordances are good not know the underlying issues other than reinforcement and people feeling like it was a sense of quants are
It's a consolation prize.
Brushing, apologize to you. Yes, you did send me very Russell's resume. I put a note down at the bottom and you sent it to me to let you know he needs to sit in maybe just a brief bio everything in his resume talks about his current construction job. He does not indicate any civil or community service anything like this. So if you would ask him, just give me a brief bio that shows that he is at the community. Also we have those two resolutions that's going to be on the agenda. For next week. I have included that we're going to have a presentation. And we want to tie this in the boundaries or do we want to say what was the term that we're using earlier a portion less exclusionary
enforcement system while you're reinforcing pizzas? Was this kind of what the presentation I'm sorry.
Okay, then, quickly. Terry has given me a history report. So your report from there we'll get that passed out next week. And he is not giving me a report your screen is going to be jumpy again. It was 151 to turn to draw. Yes.
151 set a turn to drive in the switch yards building in WA tch Yes, ma'am. Switch yards. Yes.
All right. And that is on Tuesday, at seven o'clock
Tuesday at seven o'clock. Yes. And just quickly I want to give a little update about transportation within like one minute, which is that Marta is having their meeting tomorrow about the street car East Side extension. You sit well, it's important. You said me that
is our is it to mine right now.
stand for by No, there were a couple of mounts. I want us
to really have a robust discussion about it today, but we're not and that's okay. But I do think that it is a discussion that we need to seriously consider okay to ask,
where are they with that? Because they've sent it out the flyer as an information flyer and I will just give them a large email Okay, right. So,
we are in the process of planning and smart understanding basically on the flyer even construction and analysis of the entire line going focus upon supermarket so they are
taking recommendations and so it'll be
hearing some more more about Republican engagement to hear from people at town hall so they are taking public comment and feedback on
would you follow this system so she's annoyed? Yes. I
like what I just wanted to mention, to have a conversation about it as a body because it's planning and it's a major project that in my opinion, will set a tone for other transportation projects in our city, and I want us to maybe even weigh in on it at some
point. Thanks. Since this meeting, would you check them out? Put in your telephone number.
So admin admin Sure,
please streetcars been an overall failure isn't that
for many different reasons Absolutely. Efficient person I want it to work. So to your point and a part of the conversation I wanted to have it currently sits in charge. What are they going to do about that? Let alone extending that are all these questions? I wanted us to kind of
finish currently $90 million has been turned into 180 million, don't
we? I want to say let's not say that. Yeah, I want to have a conversation about it because it is a great idea is just not working. And it's supposed to work and it can work if we can maybe push them or direct them to do it the right way moving forward.
Not yet. I need to get Winterstein because he's mission critical to this nomination. Okay, so I'll try to coordinate with him before he leaves and we're gonna do
so if you do sit back. Let's get to number seven the gender for next week. Everybody else education public safety, Chris said to my sister who said to be for here at the festival okay educated to
make sure that we
are everything. All right now. Do I have any questions about anything, especially for next Saturday, but you have
to break it down announcements. Tomorrow at one o'clock on public radio and I believe it's 90.1 web caster and CCI in the future nearly with amperes. That's pronounced
as exactly right, running it all day. But it's bigger than that it was last week's featured article in AJC
which I haven't seen yet I promise to read it but it
always in pursuit of what I think was put out as best practices for I think that's all a part of this week. Visit Yeah, I think he referenced it as best practices. It was those was the culture amis.
So there's the ACC story. So I'm not I can't speak to Vegas. Row Scott did ask CCI to give an update on our initiative because we spoke with Rose Scott while we were underway. She wants to call I don't know if it's predicated on the AJC article on best practices on this relent, I don't know. But I am I will be there to speak to her tomorrow is probably maybe asking. Yes, there was a support report article and I asked me
this Sunday. So
there was a separate article ABC and in John Russia story specifically on the best practice overseas that quoting myself as well as some cities.
Before Terry left, he just wanted me to mention that part of new business for his next meeting is going to be this discussion of leaves. It's labeled as new business redistricting. In pews. But he says that you're making a presentation in the committee. Terry Terry Ross, he just he just wanted me to mention that.
I'm going to amend the agendas before I make
the copies. I think that was what he what he was going to try to do while he was here. Yes. Yeah. referred
to Committee or is that where this is referred?
I think that's what she's that's it didn't know that. Was that the main thing
of the agenda that that is Terry's agenda that he is amending. Yes, fam. Sidney Corinthia four Oh, you're telling me Yes, ma'am. questions come along.
Comes back I think to the question of written for versus report and
let me just quit because I know the big records, if I can get them before to date, they survived today. That means I can get some printed with the rest of the documents and everybody will have then when you go up to the mic to give your verbal report so people will know what you're talking about. That's all I'm asking for that you know that you're going to give me a winner. That way I can get it printed. And then we'll get up there. People will have an idea of feel for what it is. You're talking about. And if they have questions, then they can formulate the questions and raise their hands a couple of because a minute, but just to have the committee's getting up and giving reports and the people don't have anything
disseminated to the shaders and events.
No, no, that's what I'm saying someone who had given me records.
Second, and last note,
there was a follow on to that, which is that I had submitted in this month's report, as well as in the last month's report under questions from recommendations. Should we invite Mike Dobbins and Ernest Brown who APB to give us presentation Okay, now, I mentioned that here not because I'm suggesting you for this month because I think we're gonna have to wait more time this one, but rather that that decision when it's made is going to be made here because this is where we're setting the agenda. So
there are elements
well, so my job is towards the planning commissioner, and he has been vocal in the media about this the various efforts that fall under the heading of EMP.
Not in my backyard, no.
in my backyard.
So the motivation behind it are for rookies or inner for rookies ordinances last year been very controversial, that we weighed in on and whatnot
okay, then she was saying you wanted to invite them to your CHS Well,
and that's that's why i That's why I bring it up because I assume that the questions and recommendation section of reporters questions were made for the larger body, not questions and recommendations that were holding in committee for ourselves. He is the chairman President leader. of the local chapter of embb actions something something in history was called a government.
Okay, so now first of all, we need to get those resolutions to everybody. I think they were attached to thing. So we get the resolution state provided now. The ones on the LRP is Kate is available for next Saturday. Do you wish her to know
that that's being held committed? Okay. It has nothing to do with a Saturday he's talking about the last two
minutes. forms that I'm submitting this screen report on and I and that's why I'm bringing it up because there seems to be some confusion about the information contains, right. So there's there's a section I didn't make this form on because there's there's a section that says questions and recommendations and that I interpret to be questions and recommendations coming out of committee to provide then there is resolutions to be considered Right. Right. Okay. Then there is actions in progress and pending, right. So resolutions to be considered by Apep. I have listed the two that are to be considered by AIPAC and actions in progress pending I have listed the two that are being held committed, which I think is the way to do that.
Okay. Hi. But do the two I think you told me earlier to that would be an elder committee. I
want to have the speakers. We are going to invite people to our committee meetings because we are holding the security.
That's what I was saying asking you where are you inviting them to your committee meetings? Or were you asking
them to conflate the two different sections of the report? Right? So I'm saying there is no mention in the in the section on things that are being held in committee about Black Diamond serves Brown, in fact, there's crumbs out. Right, that isn't the bottom, okay. All right. So I should so those are two completely separate issues,
which is Tell me when you're going to have these are the ones that you want to catch is the general bias which What are you planning to happen? Are you wondering,
at a future meeting, obviously not this book? Okay. Okay, good. I bring that up because I've never seen a choice in writing and it's never gotten the conventional anywhere. So it's never it's obviously never gonna happen if it never gets mentioned. I have not invited. So if they are available, they are going to be well, they'll be held in committee those two items, discussion because we wanted to know how they would dovetail with each other efforts. And should they be modified in order to better dovetail with each other?
All right, well, let me just update you I received correspondence from Samuel Lee acrp, wanting to a presentation that they have either for September or October, but he said if he made it in September, he got three schedules, abdomens, agencies coming from another meeting. So we agreed to set half and make his presentation is October. Everybody's happy?
Yes, sir. Do we know what the presentation will be?
I am scheduled to meet with him first, on Thursdays and then I can get get that information and make sure that he sends us something
we'll have a new credit Commissioner, by the first meeting October do we want to make sure we have time and so I'd be planning commissioner to have an introduction or presentations or some sort of introduction to a fab has
to do that in October. I don't think she we're about to start. It's
Do you think she'd have enough time to get in and get settled before our meeting in October?
I'm not expecting laying out some master plan. But I think invite her to come and so that we can introduce ourselves or you can introduce yourself at least to us a familiar face early on in her new position rather than we don't do it but she gets kind of everything that moves.
Does that preclude as well?
No. What I'm asking now, is there anybody else that you want on the October agenda? I think this this meeting this month, we're going to have a whole bunch of discussion so to speak, but for October is there anybody else that you would like to have on the agenda to
see if I can answer calls providing making up a little bit more that's what I think about
that, really. He and I are meeting Thursday to discuss criteria for selection of our appointees to the A CRP that I'm going to be the mainstay of that will be the main state of what it is. But in our in our email communications, we indicated that we had actually never really had criteria from the acrp in terms of the qualifications that they might be best for the schoolwork. And then when I thought about it, we don't have any of those in terms of what it is they would like to see in the African surgery. So
well, you know, we've been given a bulk of money last year, almost a half a million dollars, and I think we've had two prior in CRPS that fail. This director is under Bush to keep this organization viable and viable if I can use that word. So I think it may evolve that criteria because I think there's going to be a war of one on one with Chairman chair, the chair, but it's going to be more about the work and data. Data Data what we've accomplished because it's a fight to keep this kind of organization alive, but the time has allowed us to be alive timing, just told the RC officer
who came now I'm going to present this to y'all today. After discuss this
now most of you I think in the room know what's his name Maceio limiter, so your mediums and laser collector or something like that Mincio combination Thursday, asking me Could he qualify to rise to apply strictly for Sr s to see a CRMC smart article? He said he said in pu M. And I told him that I think we have two other people that are interested in what's yours. I think he said he's an ESPN fee. I think you said that we have to send in his application and it would have to be you know, go through the voting process, whatever. Personally, that is not a recommendation that I would like to make to this board. I think those of you who knew him when he was on a CRP he did a lot of things that acrp just called to cause them to have to ask him to leave if I know that you are here because he's going to be fine with this campaign and I understand the spirit of tending comedians virtually in the midst of some MPU stuff like this. I think he started his campaign and I have no I have no personal is a no no ponies in the show. I do not think that he is the person to represent AIPAC. And I think those of you who are new to the system, give you an idea as to why I did not become a CEO and even went so far as to set up a GoFundMe page for the acrp without anybody's approval. And that was the ultimate thing that got him into our world patrol,
or procedurally with any nomination to any court. Should we technically have a nominee vote forward by one member of the body and seconded by another, but
that is normally the way it goes. I'm just trying to get you all on point to let you know that he may be getting somebody to navigate. But as far as representing a path that makes me a little different. But if
it's properly put forward at a meeting
that's a question then you're gonna have to go talking about criteria and I'm telling you disqualifying issues with for example, you can only sit on a bed for six consecutive terms. He was asked to resign and the basis for that resignation may still be controlling.
If a nominee will be disqualified by factors beyond our control, then he would be foolish to nominate.
And I think he's you know, doing his campaigning, but nonetheless, I did tell him that he does happen prior to his resume or whatever. He has to go
through the process. And
we have lost their names in their cars. But just to let you all know, I'm just making sure that I give you all your information, so you can handle it. So sadly, I just personally don't
feel we have three different names for 1.32 slots. Yeah, yeah, that's one
that's what people like to hear.
Saw we have we have three names for two slots. Hopefully
that just gives you the background. I know. You're well
wait, wait. I understand the process. So you say we have two appointees but aren't things for us this week to see into individual qualified to do one or the other. One of those
should only have
two names for one of those. Can we have one than the other if we have three instances?
So as long as I said, I'm just waiting on them to send me their information if they're still interested.
One of these is Agent Fuller's recently amazing elegant are one of these candidates for I think it's the SOC
she would be SMC because she said NPU excels.
And, yes, if Maceio does, even before I will publicly speak out that he has personally stolen from me
that's your personal confession personal
Of course it is and I call him and tell him what I will
do. Okay. All right. Well, that's your first one we can we'll get into
it. But I'm doing an anti belch before you return to me I'd like to make money. But just 15 years ago, I put together a list of acronyms for Grant Park neighborhood association. And recently people have figured that out. Me to write up another list of putting our into a specific area. So far, I've come up to three pages of acronyms. And even some more in the speaking tonight. So I'm looking for somebody who had an email addresses they could receive acronyms, I can type them. I can put them in alphabetical order, but I don't do computers. And when the city ever comes back to the table and buys my dirt then I'll hire someone to do the computer stuff. But in the meantime, I made a commitment to put these acronyms together. So if you could make an announcement maybe at the APEC meeting Saturday,
hopefully we'll have
a website or somebody's email that you can receive lots of duplicate IDs acronyms. I'll take them off and I'll compile alphabetize them. I'll get it printed out in our NP paper. I'll make coffee that everybody needs to have at the MP has to work.
Thank you see. You're willing to give me those pieces of paper all all braces for you if you want. Well, I appreciate that. And that's a really good idea
to help my child.
Now, we usually have to first get them on a computer. Well, thank you, Jim. smart aleck.
Even these last five one last thing. Thank you, Steve.
We have still have voices in the end of the year because we've already held on to those of us which we had talked about having our annual awards ceremony going on, I decided so I want you to think about and see if that's something that we wanted to use the money to maybe have a retreat or something but it is quite clear to me that our active transportation, public safety education, in terms of you know, participating in other organizations activities are probably not going to be participating in any activity. between now and December, one of the things we thought we would do would be to work on to apex branch so that we would have the right pins or magnetic things that we could come to distribute those events that they participate in. But ultimately, we need some ideas between now and perhaps our next executive committee as to how we're going to use that money. So that we can apply for underlyings for next year. But we've held on to this now this will be the second year so that is our wish to
expand this, this agenda committee past a past presidents and vice presidents chairs, a wealth of talent out there to expand this agenda presents
I believe Steve that the record clean membership because this is a public meeting anyone can sit down is dictated by the vitals. And so your suggestion would probably best be voiced to those amendments.
Assuming you've heard what I said. No pressure just Okay,