Camp chaos. Whatever we were weak just a week a call this week eight? I think so. Holy shit. week eight guys can't believe it two months Can y'all unmute yourselves let's just like get some chaotic energy in the room right now let's just throw it
out Welcome to chaos radio. This is the story of 80 artists from around the world experimenting and collective creation.
Over the next eight weeks we'll be pushing the limits of music web three by creating 21,000 unique art pieces under the shared artists name,
chaos. Join us as we witnessed this artists grow fall and rise and we hope ultimately, we're calling our community of makers camp chaos. And here I can we believe the most exciting part of this project is the making of it. So come join us backstage with
soncap a little family of music and love in web three
climbed down into the pit orchestra will be rehearsed for our final performance making
art as chaos. Will we be able to let go of our egos enough to truly own this work collectively? Can we survive off the promise of those future NF T drop
will be harnessed the power of chaos
or be consumed by chaos. I'm Jada and I'm Llosa. Let's find out together.
Whoa, we made it y'all. We are in the homestretch of Camp getting ready to release the debut body of work from the headless band known as chaos.
But like we said in the last episode, there's a lot left to do before we're ready for the release day, the big Friday, June 3. In today's episode, we'll be covering some of those final pressing items like legal and IP, making sure we have a legal framework and plan for the web three release and subsequent web to release. And everybody's favorite marketing and communicating the release and organizing the release day event.
And as you know, this story is not just about the creative output of camp, it's about the campers themselves. One of the main goals of the chaos radio podcast has been to ensure that we tell the full story of this project so that future web three builders can borrow from what worked and what didn't work, and learn from our journey. Everyone in camp has been working very hard to bring the chaos vision to life. And it hasn't always been easy. A lot
of people in camp have been thinking about this project since the end of the song camps camp to Elektra. That's almost a year, it's been top of mine and very consuming as chaos naturally does in all parts of life. We're not just going to be talking about the structure of this camp, it's time we dive deep into a pretty raw side of camp. Next up is a little segment on the health and wellness of chaos. What's going on, I heard you have some news about the day November we like to keep a secret coffee sorry, and I mean it should be should be a thing.
think one of the things that adds to the intensity of the project. And the need to step away is just the amount of just like how much I care about it.
That's brand guide and leader here in camp talking with Matt will and Mark ready to
like the effort that I put in contributes to how successful that project ends up being. You turn off your computer and you're kind of still thinking about things and figuring out like how to do things better and making lists about what you want to do the next day.
There's so many things that need to be done. And that can be overwhelming, also to be responsible for all these different components of cam. But then I also sort of like gives me a little bit of relief that I'm not alone, you know that I actually have wonderfully talented people around me that I could potentially help out. or even take on that responsibility.
In sharing responsibilities, it takes time. And some of these folks on the leadership team have worked together on past projects, but it takes time to build a lasting trust,
there's a level to which this project is us learning to trust each other. Still, in a lot of ways,
sometimes learning to trust and handover responsibilities and share responsibilities. And even give up responsibilities is like, hard. And even in adult life, that growth and trusting
of yourself and others is really important, because as the project ramps up, like it is, now we're having to share responsibility and tasks with one another a lot more.
I love the idea of of really distributing all of these things that we need to do. But then a part of me says, Oh, this is gonna be very hard to do, you know, like, how do we know, you know, if truly this person coming in would deliver, you know, and it's uncertain. And going back to letting go, that is letting go? Well, whatever the result is, will be the result,
this speaks to the much more decentralized and emergent style of working that you see in a lot of decentralized autonomous organizations, aka Dows. And these network based projects, where you can't really just tell someone to do something because you're paying them. Many of us are working for equity together. So we really do have to learn to trust each other and let go control,
what would it look like for me to completely trust and to accept, you know, whatever outcome that is, in that fucking heart? I feel like it's speaking to my ego or feeling important all the time. You know, it's like, No, dude, he don't need to be, you know, you don't need to touch that chip. You know, they know what they're doing. Just hands off, get off their backs, dude. We're all adults here. You know,
folks on the team mentioned that as you get tired, as people are working on this project for a really long time, and the workload starts ramping up, it's actually harder to hand off things to other people. It's a symptom of being tired, because it takes effort to delegate and to lean on one another. And this exhaustion, it's so real, which makes sense, because this is more than just a normal job, right? It's something we're co owning together.
It's like, yeah, there's like this wave of exhaustion. That's like never ending now, especially towards the end of Act Three to like the rest of export or like, Okay, we got this done, but there's still a lot to continue doing.
That's so mad. He's on the operations team. As you know, if you've been listening to these episodes, and the operation team, the leadership teams, they have a lot of added pressure. They always do in any project, there was a moment when we were doing a weekly check in, and we realized that everyone is feeling something similar. We were in the midst of week eight, the week that was supposed to be the final week of camp, and people were just tired.
I mean, I felt pretty overwhelmed being on meetings, and I just felt like my brain was split in so many different sections that I was having trouble reaching, like any kind of like equilibrium.
I think my, I guess, predominant feeling is that exhaustion as well.
Yeah, I would relate to what they shared sense of exhaustion. Today, I've just been like, completely, not able to plug in. At times, I feel like I could like tap into clarity and like seeing where my focus needs to be in doing the work. And I can tap into that. But like globally, I feel definitely like not operating optimally,
as asked for was going into full swing, we all felt pretty tired and overwhelmed. Honestly, part of it was that the release date was approaching super quickly, and act for its rebirth. Giving birth takes a lot of energy. You may remember, we had said in a past episode, that the last week of May was going to be the release of this project. But what we realized is that that was just not feasible for us to do in a healthy way for multiple teams. So before we announced it publicly, we actually had an internal discussion and decided to bump the release date to June 3. It was a really tough decision. There were a lot of factors that went into that, including needing more time to test the systems our devs are developing and our wellness. You know, we have to keep in mind our collective health and sanity as a lot of us hold multiple roles and responsibilities in this camp. And when we had the release date earlier, this exhaustion was much more evident in our interactions and our bodies. Prior to the release day change, I personally opened up to some teammates, who also shared the load of a very Full Plate. And among them was my friend will sharing that he felt identified with my sentiments. So we hopped on a call that turned into a heart to heart in more ways than one. Here's a snippet of that combo. The only way that we can all grow out of this is if we really do allow ourselves to have those hard conversations. But I think in doing that, we all need a break. Before that happens, I'm grateful that you want that too. Because like, we are in an experiment, the nature of an experiment with humans is you're putting your body through that experiment. And I don't know about you, but like my body has been reacting. Like I have like heart issues that are coming up even
I was having heart palpitations last night, like to the point where I normally like will will relax for a little bit alone before like going up to bed and like, it wouldn't let me stay alone. Like she was like nervous. Working with this on discord in zoom at this level of intensity and constancy isn't sustainable. And you do what you got to do for the experience. And because you're passionate, and to provide for yourself and such. And like climbing Everest probably fucks you up physically, but people still do it and say the experience is worth it. And like, that's how I feel. I'm not saying it's negative, I'm grateful for the experience and the opportunity to like, get out of starving artists mood. But like, I do not want my life to feel like this in the long term, like I need real life and outside and to like see the people I create with and have meals with them and go on walks with them.
We're all feeling the pressure as we enter this final stage of camp, emotionally, mentally, physically, we got to find a way to do these projects in a healthier way in the future.
It makes me it just it just gives me this vision of like, you know, the ability for this like, you know, core high context people who are like very weight bearing to like, maybe later in this in this camp, or maybe in camps, the comments like in more mature networks, you can find those people, you can give them the context and information at the right moment. And like suddenly, the weight is like not buried in this central area. But it's spread in this very efficient way. That starts to really feel like a murmuration like a real dance. And it can be tough
to grow that talent of people who can step into those leadership roles. It takes a lot of effort, time, mistakes, communication, and trust. And though it's not always the fastest way to move, in my opinion, it's the more fulfilling option. It's a struggle, but also a beautiful, beautiful blessing we have in this new decentralized way of working.
I heard this from meta cartel, which is, you know, one of the earlier doubts. And that's one of their mottos. You know, if you want to go fast, do it alone, if you want to go further do it together, which I think is so such a wonderful quote, especially for projects here in web three.
So maybe we didn't have to go as fast as we originally thought. Moving the release date from the end of May to the beginning of June, allowed us to let go of some of that pressure.
And luckily, this level of pressure is not forever, because on June 3, the headless band chaos will be releasing the project, we're all going to be able to hopefully take a breather a little rest. But until then these conversations this confiding in one another and this emotional vulnerability really helps keep us going. Fran sums this up pretty nicely
together at this point. There's a lot of leaning on each other confiding in each other. There's a lot of nonfasting certainly, but you know, getting getting anxiety, so frustrations out. And I'm really grateful for that.
It's important to lean on one another for support, especially this core team of people who at the end of the day are responsible for making sure this thing actually gets launched.
So speaking of launch, what are we aiming towards? And how is it gonna go? There's so many unknowns before we release. So that's what we're gonna dive into next, the rollout that we're starting in web three, with this headless band called Chaos, releasing their debut body of work of 21,000 NF Ts,
but there's also an opportunity to move into web two as well. We've been teasing some music throughout the last few episodes. And as you've heard, the songs are incredible and the artwork. Whoa, his body of work needs to be seen beyond web three, which is why we're working on plans to move into web two as well Spotify Apple Music and all the usual traditional music release strategies.
So buckle up next for talking about the release plan
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on 420 I got Hi with mine, we had a bit of a chat. And he was he was going off the same sort of energy shifts puking crazy. It's going to blow up like I'm nervous. I'm super nervous that like we opened the crickets, and he's like this shit is gonna sell out in less than five minutes.
That's Matt talking with the Seward's team about the rollout plan, marketing, pricing, etc.
And we were talking about we were talking about the price of the packs. And I thought I was that call, I kind of want to get some more data from people. Like how much do you think a pack of for these NF T's should be? Piano thinks point seven piece 11/8? Point seven, seven?
Yeah. But I think what you have to also consider is not everyone has eaten their wallets. So in my opinion, it needs to be less than the UBI we gave out so that people have the ability to actually mint in this camp.
That's one sermon, I think I'm thinking about like accessibility, as well. Point 25 is good.
This is the balancing act that we have to do, right? We're starting our own little business, a big feat. And we have to decide what to price this thing that we're selling. We obviously want there to be a strong turnout when we first go live. And we want to compensate everyone fairly, make sure everyone gets money for the time and value that they put into this project. But we also want people to have the songs and collect these beautiful pockets of gold, and have the average person be able to own part of this collection. We have to keep all of these factors in mind along with the market dynamics when thinking of pricing. If we find the right balance we might sell out on the first day, even though that's a phenomenon that is changing during this bear market season. Here's Mark talking with artist and chaos band member Tyler Cordy, about selling out and what that might do for this project.
If you also allow, we have a good narrative to this huge leverage. That's huge average. And now I feel like we could do whatever the fuck you want. And everyone would just listen to us. Yeah.
And that's I think that's a great point. Because that's, that's the original word to shit is just like, once you have the leverage, then like, yeah, you can go walk into the label, or walk into Spotify his office and be like, like, like, let's figure something cool out.
Okay, so say we do that, say we sell out this NFT project. And it's a huge success. We get some media attention and everyone gets paid, which is great. We hope that happens. The next step would be to release it as a traditional music project, right? We have all the amazing artwork, we have all this music, we should put it out on DSPs like Spotify, Apple Music, even the radio as some people talked about the songs being very pop oriented. But moving from web three to web two is a tricky thing. We have to have a legal entity to hold or represent the intellectual property of chaos.
So maybe a quick update on that is that Mark is building scenarios that holds the IP that sort of sense all the royalties to charity, or do we pursue a CCO license Creative Commons, which is essentially a public good license.
It's definitely proving to be an interesting thing to interact the web three space web two,
that's Mark rocker music industry vet and steward of the rollout plan moving forward into web two.
Because like we're saying it isn't as cut and dry as and would it be to just release anything so it would probably wouldn't happen with the drop it would probably be after the fact. And so we have A little bit more time to work on it.
This is a complex challenge within camp chaos. We're trying to get this team of 80 creators all working in different capacities to all agree on how their intellectual property will be represented by the group. That's no easy feat. Luckily, we have a strong network of folks who are doing and trying to do similar things, other groups of artists, decentralized autonomous organizations, or Dow and entrepreneurs who are trying to push the boundaries as well.
One of these people is Jonathan Mann, a longtime supporter of song camp. For the past 14 years, he's been creating one song every day, can you believe it? You might know him as song a day man actually learned about him in one of my music classes back in school. He recently released more than 4000 songs as NF Ts, and has created a Dow that will legally own the intellectual property of the underlying music as well. So he's done a lot of thinking and research in this space. He also happens to be a friend of song camp, a extremely important supporter here. So we reached out for a conversation. Here's Matt giving Jonathan an update of where we are at with these legal matters.
It's like, yeah, we're in like, an interesting spot. Now we want to put an NFT project, we don't have an entity, people have agreed to thing on like an air table form or we haven't signed anything together. Minimum Viable thing is like, Okay, we all sign a license that's like, basically legally reflects what we've already agreed to. We're putting on a few projects, we licensed IP to that NFT project. And then we agreed to the economics, we've already agreed to within like legalese. But that means that everyone's still just owns their IP, singularly. And if we want to explore merch went to anything else. The other way to go about it is to now agree to as he kind of been talking about, collectively own IP or sign over, everyone's head over the IP to chaos, which would be from my understanding a general partnership.
To me, it seems like a no brainer, like, to me, I'm like Co Op, all the things basically. And this seems like a perfect enterprise for a co op structure, because you want everybody to be a co owner, you want it you just want to make every every seven to each set each person in that 70 person group to be a co owner in the in the enterprise.
This is very similar to what Jonathan is doing with song, a Dao. And he's received a lot of legal advice on why that's a good approach. However, it does take time to set up a co op legal structure. And given the timeline we were originally intending for, we're looking for an initial strategy we can run with now and then adapt later as needed.
It feels like no matter what, like outfit we put on to start, be it a general partnership Co Op, just in any way that if we if we decide to bundle, we need to have a way of governing that like at least a minimum viable way of governing that. That was the thing that the lawyer was saying to me. I was like, let's just do the light. Let's just agree to what we've already agreed to. In like, try and introduce anything the last two weeks is pushback was like now's the best and easiest time for everyone to agree to like bundle this thing. I mean, what about visual like, someone in camp created paintings took high res photos of it. And that's going on our cover artwork? Do we just own the like, is it the IP that's bundling just the stuff that was used in the cover artwork or is like that painting now owned by the chaos? I sent that question I'll just the lawyer to see what they were sending me. He was like, my gut would be Yeah, like a painting would be owned by chaos. It was like that. Feels pretty intense.
This lawyer that Matt is talking about is named Jeremy gold.
Jeremy, how's it going?
Hey, there you hear me? Okay.
Yeah, thanks for coming through. Worse.
He is an intellectual property attorney specializing in web three projects and communities
for about 15 years, everything from like global brands and big IP holders to Dows and startups and platforms and emerging tech,
he actually agreed to hop on a call with the Kaos network and said we could share some of that conversation with you.
For now, whatever it is, there is some organization, even if it's a chaos, and it's headless, there's some organization there's some group of people that is agreeing to go on this journey together, and to have the IP held by the community collectively, rather than it being held by any individual person.
So essentially, given the timeline that we're up against, and the scale of the project and its emergent nature, we don't necessarily know what's going to happen after release day. What Jeremy is recommending we do is create a document that we all sign saying that we give our intellectual property to the network itself, and then the network will make decisions based on what we can and can't do with that. So it's pretty flexible. It's not creating a company, it's not creating a co op. It's an MDP model we can use to run with now and make changes as needed in the future,
you can decide to throw out this document and do something completely different later. But for now, I think the idea is let's centralize the intellectual property, give the chaos community the best chance to make something of it going forward. And if things don't work out, then everyone can, you know, take their toys and go home.
It's one thing in this experiment to be starting it and everyone's excited to be working together and collaborating, making music and art. But then as these legal questions start to pop up, who owns what? Is it the network that owns everything? Are they the individuals still owning their own individual IP? I mean, these are tough questions we're having to answer now. And quickly. And Jonathan has a really good point around why taking this path is worth the effort.
To me, I think the argument is really simple, actually, to me. It's so much stronger as a project. If, if it's simply chaos, if it's simply, chaos owns the entire thing. It's so much, because individually, the songs might do whatever, they might go and do this, they might go and do that, but collectively as a project. That's like the whole thing that's like, that's what gives this project its mojo, is this collective effort. And so from a from even a marketing standpoint, right? It's so much stronger if, if you're doing a music sync licensing, and then rather than it going direct, you know, rather than it being credited to the individual, it's credited to chaos. Like, that's fucking awesome. And you know what I mean? Like, that's rad.
That's the big question, right? It's finding a common denominator where all 80 of us agree on this level of collective ownership. And it's, it's challenging, we're probably going to start it in one way, and it's going to shift another way. But that's the whole point of this experiment, right? Pushing the boundaries, and what we've been able to do in the past into traditional ways of making art together. So for this to truly be a headless band of chaos, we have to find a way to move forward together as one, if we want to release in web two, chaos has to own the intellectual property, or at least to some extent, manage it or administrate it in some way. Which is tough. Because there aren't many examples of this. We're in new territory. Using web three tech, while bridging into web two doesn't really have a clear model or pattern after, this is something that Mark Rucker has been thinking about.
It's like, just a bunch of people are creating, you know, the songs and stuff. Like when you create a business, like, there's, there's business models that you follow, right? But when there isn't a business model, you have to create it. Right?
It's supposed to be That's
why nobody's doing it. So like, I feel like we should feel very encouraged by all this.
The fact that this is difficult is actually a good sign, right? It's proof that we're pushing the boundaries and what's been possible before
the industry has been like a bunch of industry, people, enabling creative people to not have to take responsibility for their careers in certain capacity.
That's Megan Kenny. Again, in addition to being a vocalist in chaos, she owns her own sync licensing collective. So she's been helping with the rollout of web two as well.
And which then also leads to them being taken advantage of, which means artists don't have any money and like, there just generally isn't a recognition of the value of both sides of things. But we came together and we're valuing the infrastructure in a capacity which was reflective not of your whatever you call yourself, but of the actual time you put it in because time is our real, the only real value
we have. Like Kenny said, we're taking on the responsibility of what a traditional music label or publishing company normally would be doing. Releasing this project in a non traditional way has its challenges. One thing that's driving us forward is an uncontainable excitement, for the beauty of the art, the elegance of the code, and the quality of the music, catches at our heartbeat call or on our Twitter to see how excited we truly are. Some parts of the release of chaos are difficult to predict. But one thing that's super exciting is the longevity of this work, because we're releasing these are as NF T's and creating this podcast. It's going to outlive all of us, and we hope that this project and how we are done commenting it can be a blueprint for future projects and artists who are interested in doing something like this.
So I was thinking about this, this actually, like, what does chaos become the other day,
you probably remember Abram from our exploits on the dev team, he is leading that liquid split technology we talked about in episode two, which is the NFT tech we're using to ensure everybody gets paid. I think the
term Tao is like wildly overused, a lot of the projects that kind of would, I think, identify as a doubt today are like really not autonomous at all right? Like, you remove the humans and like that thing is just gonna, like fall on his face, because like that is what's keeping it going. And I think like, that has to be inverted, right. And so like, you actually need like this core thing to exist. And then humans can modify it, but like it can exist without any human intervention and interaction. And I actually wonder if like chaos, what we're thinking about right now is like, poised to be a true Dow, and like the sense of the word in that, like, all of us were to cease to operate, think about passing that would still exist indefinitely, right? And like, we would still be able to, like receive the value that is coming in, because like the value flow that we like, orchestrated, I think it's like a pretty interesting idea that what we do with chaos will, so long as Aetherium continues to exist, like outlive all of us. Right? Like, there's no taking it down. You can't delete these things, right. And that's like a pretty cool concept, in my opinion that like you don't see very much of these days.
Yeah, that's part of the beauty of this headless band chaos, releasing this work. First, using NFT technology. When we release the music and artwork, it's not dependent on some tech company like Spotify, or Apple Music, or a label to exist in the world. It's not even on a platform. It's forever living on this collectively owned, managed and governed protocol.
It's funny, too, because I've been so exhausted by like, the music and ft. thing, like the meme. Yeah, you know, like, we're, I'm just like, God, like, nobody is doing anything except for saying this shit over and
over. That's Tyler Cordy talking with Mark or ditto, again, about how music NF T's have not really had their crossover moment yet. And how chaos could potentially play a bodacious role in that.
And it's like funny and like, I, it's funny to be involved in. But then at the end of the day, it's just like, the thing hasn't happened, where it's like, oh, like, this proves that it can cross over and be powerful and important. And it's not just people saying music NFT over and over, trying to like Will it into existence. And honestly, this type of project, and this is something that I'm excited to then go out in the world and like talk to people about because it is a tangible thing. It's not just like, you know, it's not just saying music NFT it's like, this is what we did, and this is how it ran. And you know, that makes a lot more sense to me.
It's something that a lot of folks in the chaos network feel super excited to be a part of the energy in our chaos weekly calls gives so much life to every single person who's listening on that call. Here's Darby trash, one of the Immaculate life givers on the chaos weekly QA and on the music teams, sharing a similar sentiment,
since all this shit so new, or like in real time contributing in like, historic events, right? And so it's gonna be really crazy to like, look back and we're setting up a model for something that may become like a pretty common practice this style of kind of like releasing music, which that would be really interesting to see like more decentralized, collective, collaborative musical projects just kind of like spawning from like this as a model super quick attribute to think about
as we move from having made this thing to sharing it with the world. It brings up familiar feelings for artists who are used to putting out art into the world.
Beautiful, this is unlimited, like the possibilities I love it I'm like, like that's what I live
for. This is Jen Morel, an artist and vocalist in chaos,
per se when you release a song like I just released a song two weeks ago, and it's like you see just like you know, like a toddler into like walking and eventually running. You know? I feel like it definitely has a lot of potential I feel like we're very very new into the world the world and the music and if to music I feel like we are a head and what's to come is exciting. What's the calm is going to change our lives forever. I think it's gonna
it's gonna be big. Couldn't have said it any better ourselves, kale. As the headless band is being introduced into the world, and we are going from entropy to rebirth, and as we grow and share more and more things are going to change. We have a plan for what's going to happen next. But we really don't know how this story is going to end or if it ever ends,
and queens were up about to find out on Friday, June 3 at exactly 5:23pm es t will be birthing these 21,000 unique pieces of art and music to the world. But you know, we're the headless band chaos. So this isn't your regular Monday. Here's Matt on a camp wide call with some news.
Now, we're going to tell everyone what June three is. Yes, it's Monday, release day launch day, whatever you want to call it. But we are calling it something else and we're going to share with the world right now. I'm so honored to tell you guys about chaos festival chaos festival y'all. Chaos festival is going down 4pm Eastern 1pm Pacific on the chaos stage in our very own song camp discord when festival now you know that's
right, a jam packed evening of entertainment celebration music art special guests. I even heard that Eris herself might make an appearance. We're planning some very special surprises and I hope to see you there.
If you want to follow along in real time, definitely check out at headless underscore chaos on Twitter or our website www dot chaos dot build. Will the chaos drop sell out? Will we find a way to bridge the gap between web three to web two for the music release? How will it feel to be done with this massive project? Don't worry we got you won't be back in a few weeks with a recap of what went down on release day and beyond.
This episode was brought to you by song camp and Eris Goddess of discord and chaos, crypto boy history, the vid brain pullback solutions, chaos festival jitters portal to evolution and great web three fun
this episode was executive produced and edited by Levi Downey CO produced co edited and narrated by Jada blooms and Llosa, production and story help from Julie Clark, Francis Miller, young Spielberg will Jergens Rosalie and Jacqueline the way the music by Josh Libby and mastered by Connor Dalton Special thanks to Matthew chain portal opener of song hands and listeners like you
thanks for listening all the way to the end a little alpha for you. Haha, the chaos Festival on June 3 is totally open and free for anyone to join. But if you're a holder of a top secret chaos festival ticket, then you'll be getting a little something extra a backstage experience during midday and you'll be eligible to win one of 23 Chaos NFT packs we're giving away during the festival. So how do you get one of these tickets?
Chaos ticket is going to be NF T NF Ts that will be multiple editions that basically AirDrop these NF T's to us, for you to us so that you have one you can give away to a friend and to neighboring communities.
So you heard that right. We're air dropping these chaos tickets baby, you get a ticket, you get a ticket. Oh, over there in the corner you get a ticket to each camper will have the ability to gift a ticket to a friend and we'll be sending tickets to our neighboring communities to think save club F WB Zuora etc. Keep your eyes peeled in the song camp discord and the headless chaos Twitter for more details. And with that, my beloved friends I'll see you at chaos festival Friday June 3 starting at 4pm Eastern Time 1pm Pacific and other times other places at the chaos stages on song camps discord, be well and
