yeah on board with the idea of like our, you know, community led organization, but maybe that's more of a faith in the valley territory kind of thing.
Hey real quick Can we just do a real quick synopsis? I realized that the audio was not recording for some reason. Yeah. We just do a little loop back. Okay, security third time yeah.
Sorry, security?
We do. We will do security I will do. Being honest about the risks of organizing and today's Red Scare plan.
Yes. Perfect. Okay.
And then Chris was talking about, but both of you are talking about difficult it is to actually get a church or like a community center to rent us a space that doesn't cost a fortune. I mean, Faith family does do communities, but they're, they're well funded in nonprofits and they are quote unquote,
community, the unit, literally the church, they call me today. They wanted near they wanted nearly $400 for like a 45 minute meeting. Plus, plus $150. Deposit.
Yeah, I mean, I don't I mean, some of these groups are very red flag for nonprofits. So maybe that's like these get away with it. And because, you know, like, the church that I've gone to a few times, faith in the valley gave them a million dollars. Like, that's how loaded faith from the ballet is so, um, for sure, part of the reason they get these faith leaders to like join, and our churches join is because they have money to donate, and they can be like, yeah, we'll come hold meetings that took place regularly and give you like, $500 every single time.
But guess what we need as a secular church.
Yeah, I mean, there are are a couple of things. But there's one at least that's supposed to be like, the weird sciency. Church. But okay, I haven't reached out to least which is my dad. That is probably our last hope. It's like very nearby. Yeah, I mean, our last last hope is like, literally where we meet already. Because it is. Yeah. Yes. Nearby ish, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think we should pay $500.
No five, that's ridiculous amount for an hour or 25 minutes or whatever. It's it doesn't say Yeah. Especially if we're going to be doing it relatively regularly. That's wild. Yeah,
that's right. We can't afford it. I message Louise, I think I'll get on a group chat with Louise, his wife and Sandra. And maybe that will help who is sometimes he's like, really busy. So it's like hard to like pin down and Alana to message him during the holidays. But I'll message him on Friday. Hopefully, he's free to be second choice, and I guess if nothing else comes through, then we'd still good at the fellows. Because that will be available for sure. When it does have a kitchenette? Yeah. Okay, parking. And, I mean, it's like 10 minutes away. But it's not forever away. Kenny.
So what do you think about that?
I like that idea. I just, I didn't realize personal I mean, I had a feeling that it was going to be difficult. I didn't, I thought that these places wouldn't be charging a bunch of money. But then I thought I mean, now that you mentioned the nonprofit aspect of it. But that does make a lot of sense. Like, why would they be they could get money out of this this deal. So why would they just be allowing community organizations to be it's that's why I was hesitant. That was the other thing. I didn't want to use the word nonprofit, because I feel like that's makes it sound like we have money.
Which is so funny. I mean, maybe like, maybe we should pick a couple of churches and like, target them and like maybe if we get to know them, like offer a space for free. We are going to so
Exactly. And that's what um, I remember that moment we talked to for a long time, she was like, Oh, my church does that. Like they help the homeless or whatever. And it's, it's like, I I wonder if, like you said, yeah, if we ingratiate ourselves a little bit, if that would be better.
Yeah, that seems reasonable. I mean, like, the other thing is like we can always, you know, so like in downtown Stockton, there's like the huddle, Ko workspace, right, which I think is I think is like $40 An hour or something like that. Yeah. So like, worst comes to worse. There's always that kind of place that where we can like be guaranteed to like, get it for not an insane amount of money, but like not also not the cheapest amount of money ever either. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know.
Okay, so should we push? I mean, the following. What do we agree on during the meeting? Like Friday, Saturday?
Yeah, I think I think we said Friday or Saturday. I think we were trying for the first or second, I believe.
Yeah. So should we move it to the I mean, at this point, we have one week
we have Well, I think that's enough time. Yeah. So I think here's the problem is that one of the other things is a lot of these places are booked between now and Christmas. Next year, yeah. And so the places that aren't again are like the places that want large amounts of money. So I know some of them want like 30 days notice and like so. Yeah, I think that the the I think the beginning of the month is definitely optimistic. Maybe unrealistic.
So should we should we like Let's ask our members if everyone's can make that second week and then just settle for pleases place or our meeting place? Yeah. And then and then you know, like, again, like if we if we get people there, maybe like the like the woman you're talking about Chris like if she comes for someone else, like we can just ask the group Hey, does anyone have like a closer meeting spot or like know someone at church or something like can help us out? That'd be that would you like you know, we can do it that way.
We also if we are going to do it in the middle of December, that means that we need to set up we need to do the phone banking or the like the calling of everybody. The week, the week And that we weren't going to have done in the first place. So we basically find next week, we need to have started calling everyone. But we need to have be sure that we have a location to do before we do that.
Yeah. Okay, well, I'll talk to police. Let's ask everyone if they can even do the second week of December. Because if it's like, can you guys do it?
Yeah, we'll put that on the agenda.
I think yeah, that's should be fine with me.
Oh, shoot, can I do it?
That's like, the way we do in the weekend or?
Yeah, I guess we'd have to do 15 December 13. To 20. Okay, so I'm back on the Saturday. I'm not available on Friday. Um, so I guess Saturday. What is
the sorry? That's the eighth or the ninth? The ninth?
Oh, is that sorry? Um, we're
already putting in next week after that. You mean? No.
Okay, now we're fine. I'm one of my count. Sorry.
Because basically, so like, Okay, so from the 13th
to Friday, this will be before that.
Yeah. So we could either do it on Friday or Saturday, the eighth or ninth?
If your court do the ninth, unfortunately, but I eight. I
can do both. Okay, eighth and ninth. Okay. So it could be anything cuts as close to the holidays?
It does? Yes. I think that if we can't do it on the eighth or the ninth, we basically have to push it to the fifth or the sixth of January, which
yes, yeah.
I can't do it the night Saturday, just heads up. But okay. We can figure it out.
Okay, so So then it's the, so the eighth is probably our best option then. Yeah. So may or may be like so either the eighth or the 16th depending in 60s really is getting pretty close to Christmas, though. Okay. All right. All right. Well, well, we'll we'll figure it out when we have everyone else's schedules available. And then Okay, so if we do that, then we have to schedule the phone bank for the week prior to that.
Yeah, let's let's do that. I guess Friday evening. Friday, it's kind of like last time I feel like okay. Maybe Saturday afternoon? Yeah.
Yeah. might be better to call it Yeah. On Saturday.
Yeah.
All right. I'm just putting generally are Yeah. Okay. So I'll put I'll put loosely
December eights
question marks and then what is this? The first i art? No, the second right. Saturday, the second? Yes. Okay. All right. Okay, I think that's basically everything for the tea right now. Right?
Yeah. Yeah, let's, uh, I think car holds the document. I found a couple of more like organizing documents, I guess, like articles. So I mean, if you want to, like reboot the reading group, I think that's a good start. There's also a, I don't know if you knew about this school right away it was. Now we're going to school it was like the new one was it? Like left wind or something? Then the one and they were, hold on? I mean, what what was it called? It's like a failed Marxist group.
Isn't that all the Marxist group? No.
Okay, the Marxist center, do
you know what that was the Marxist center once? Yeah, it was like an
attempt a while ago. For people who were like, you know, there were a lot of disjointed groups and they were like, maybe can come together and like form the Marxist center. Yeah, we can like do something but you know, it kind of failed because they weren't really like holding, you know, no one was actually listening to the center and everyone was kind of doing their own local stuff and it kind of broke apart. Yeah, but, but the people who fell out of it like wrote a lot of kind of retrospectives. Some of it was like, reviewing Stalinism, which, I guess is really big now with the youths. unfortunate, but they have to have like a very large, like, list of articles that kind of countered, like the problems with it and stuff. And if it is larger, the use? Maybe that's like a good reading group thing to like, read through. Sure. They had just two ideas for like, kind of continuing on with our reading group. Yeah. Good.
I have a, I think I have a I have a book somewhere that I that is like really short, and like sweet that we could read that I have to find it. I I thought I had array here. But apparently, it's not rare. So yeah, if you can, like linking to the whatever the Yeah, what you're thinking about? Post it so everyone can read it.
And eventually, we should read I guess we should read Benjamin Studebakers book on. Like, there's no path forward. And, like, you know, we can't just do anything and like, we got to really imagine something new, you're not gonna like elect people in our form. Like, it's like a true black toolbook. His like, he says, the point, the point of it is for you to reach deep levels of despair. So you stop claiming to like, hopes in your current ideas. And in the current system, and like you imagine something new. And we've been kind of talking about that in the varnas core of just how like, like, we haven't, like we keep sticking with like old ideas to heal old wounds. But, you know, society and capitalism and moved on and when could new ways to focus?
Well, also, what's funny is the I so I was taught, I remember who I was talking to you about it exactly. But basically, I think are talking to you about a little bit too, which is the idea that in the modern era, the distinction between bourgeois and proletarian, has kind of gotten muddied a little bit, because there are, like, people who are petit bourgeois, right? Who are way way more alike, or at least should be politically aligned, because their interests are more aligned with a proletarian, you know, the guy who owns the bodega at the end of the street is way closer to us than he is to some billionaire. Right? Like, no, not even close. And so we should at least in you know, in broad strokes be aligning with those people. But the old conception of, you know, bourgeois and proletarian has basically made that impossible.
Yeah, there's a I mean, I think this is like, maybe we can have, like, if we develop our ideas a little bit more, we can have kind of a panel on it sometime. And I talked about it. But yeah,
there's a there's another book that you might be interested in by a guy named Vincent Bevins. It's called If we burn it that the subtitle is the mass protest decade and the missing revolution. And it's basically about how like, the last 1015 years have just been a series of massive mass movements around the world, but nothing really came of it. Yeah, and it's it's pretty fascinating actually.
Yeah, I guess I guess we should have a like, I don't know how to fit it in because you have 20 meetings and like no one attendance or educational stuff.
I think maybe what I think maybe instead of doing like reading groups where everyone reads the book, maybe what we should do is go hey, like like kind of like book reports basically like I read a book and here's the the gist of it that I got basically and you can read it too if you want
yeah, maybe that's a better idea. Yeah, cuz I think we should talk about these things, but we got to do it in a way that actually interests people. Okay, but 3d ungroup and then what do we got? We got we still got Palestine stuff.
What do we have on Palestine? What are we doing Palestine wise right now?
So there have been a few more so I hoped some folks from the City Central Valley Yeah bipoc group but yeah, Got to help with on banking stuff. But I also haven't reached out to them. So both sides are to blame. But oh, and then the phone banking stuff we do have set up. Unfortunately, it doesn't powered phone calls anymore. That's like an old feature that they made like version two of their daily dialer. And then include that. So I think I'll have to look up some other stuff. There is like, the hub color. It's something like that. Maybe they still have it. Because that's kind of an important part. Like, we can't just tell people, hey, write down this phone number and call Josh harder, you know, no one's gonna do that. We have to be able to be like, Okay, I'm gonna go now. And the call is gonna, it's gonna automatically call. Yeah, because I am, I will text you a script or something. So I'll see if they have that. If they do, then we should, we should try doing that phone banking session, at least calling. Calling the kind of progressive people in the district. Hopefully, that can help with recruitment also, like if we're like, Hey, we're this group you haven't heard of before? We're doing something cool. I don't know if phone banking will actually help. I mean, a lot of Democrats are kind of turning, but it's one.
Yeah. And that's not doesn't give me a lot of hope. But
no, because yeah, he is pretty right wing on Israel. Yeah. But you know, we should at least try and give it a go. Just instead of just spam siding.
So there's that. And then maybe we should try to do like a protest at his office. I mean, that's really not going to do anything. Because I feel so few times.
i So real quick. If we do the protests is office. It's not about seeing him and it's not about it has nothing to do with convincing him it is about the media that we can produce from it. 100%
Yeah, there might be like the stock and record of a story on the protest in front of Stockton City Hall. So maybe we'll do another story if it's tied to the office.
Do we does anybody know? Any reporters from like local newspapers? Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Cuz if we, if we know somebody who'd be willing to write an article about it, that would be good.
Yeah, I know. I know people from the record and start, Tonia and Casey are a. So hopefully one of them will come. Okay, cool. And, like, maybe the beginning of December or something like that's a couple of weeks. gives us time to do it. Obviously not going to be done in well, they're secure way we'd want it to be done. Yeah,
I was gonna say like, there's there's the big boycott on Black Friday that everybody's supposed to be doing. And there's like a series of Palestine things in the next like, you know, like couple weeks. So, I think there's like one every Sacramento and Modesto in the bay, I think.
Yeah, I'm gonna try to do one local. I mean, the Sacramento one was, they all been very well attended, but sacrosanct, you know,
yeah, I'm actually amazed at how like how consistent people are with his Palestine, like, Palestine has been like a pretty good activation. Well, not only that, but 14,000 deaths.
Well, you know, like that books that we do this stuff, like every other every few years, there's some kind of in March for Yeah, I
went to purchase two years ago and Palestine protests in Sacramento. And then I it was, I mean, it's interesting, it seems like a different group of people are being activated by this but I feel like a lot of them feel aimless and they don't feel like they they're doing it because like, like the book said, they're doing it because it's like the thing to do. It's a way to show activism but it's not effective. Now,
we need to we need to basically take we need to like Co Op that energy and redirect it into something more effective. Yes.
I think yeah, I think we do need to headline it with like, you know, my bitching screenshots of like, No more being Democrats, you know, like that should be the direction of like, honestly, we don't even know what to tell you guys where to go after this. But let's stop doing that. Because all that's doing like the ceasefire now, which we got to we got to post something about the ceasefire. Sorry, go ahead.
No, no, we thing is we need to direct them to something you because like, a negative is good for people will go Oh, yeah, I agree. But you need to A positive direction, WC. Well, yeah, yeah, we need we need something we need something that we can guide them into because like, otherwise we're stopping up the energy instead of redirecting it.
Well, I mean, the problem is like, people want like solutions, you know, but it's like we can maybe like, the ceasefire is like it's even down south, they'll do a ceasefire and up north, they're only going to do ceasefire six hours a day. I know. It's like, it really seems like they're
postponing Friday. It's not even
though, but they are like annexing North Gaza is one of Yeah. Oh, no, no, that seems to be their end goal
the Justice Minister wants to and she is trying to convince them to other countries to take all of the Palestinians so they can annex the entire strip.
Yeah, that's the plan that I know there's some like Canada was a big one. They're like, Oh, you guys take refugees and it's like, that's not what people want.
So so like a lot of people now are like seed Buying Guide it's a ceasefire and like you guys don't understand like, the minimum demand I feel like or Israel has now it's like Northern Gaza. And, you know, with like, all of Gaza probably being too difficult. But if you can put 2 million people into, you know, just the southern half, you'll get more rent, like it serves a double function of like some of those folks will finally leave you know, they'll sneak out because it's like impossible to survive. You're radicalized more people so they start attacking you more and then you have the option of being like well it's been a year let's do what we did before all over again and take like another half and another half. And so it's like that's where we should be like the ceasefire language ended up being too broad and people are gonna be like say ceasefire happened. And so you got to put something out are there anyone that
does anybody have any contacts and like the local Palestinian community that we because one of the things that would be really useful is if we could basically get someone who has a direct connection to what's going on who says this piece fire is fucking stupid basically. And it's not good enough
yeah, I can ask at shot con I mean, it's not he knows the like Arab community and Laura whether they have connections or they have Palestinians in their temple that's the closest connection I have I'm gonna can ask some of the people in this Sikh temple and see if they know anyone just out of like you know sick to persecuted Arab Alliance yeah
yeah yeah.
It's I knew a woman I knew someone but they moved away and they weren't the resident hatch workshop but they are not they're off the mat. So
at the at the last Stockton event there was a group of like excellent expat Palestinians who were there who were they had like videos of them talking Oh,
Alaska progressive unity okay. Yeah, I guess they like had contact with them Yeah, I mean they probably want to help with a certain anyways. Or like not a student like a protest had about this. I don't I don't need people and stalked him to get arrested after what now can with the school board member yeah
yeah all right. Well, fuck yeah, I forgot about that. That's I'm sorry. This is why we need security fucking need security training. Yeah,
cuz I'm sure someone will bring it up and I'm like you guys don't understand like they will go beyond what they need to go and then like you know they'll have a permanent avenue of like flexing you after that. Yeah.
Oh yeah. That's the other thing is like people people don't realize how many like weak points you have in your life there are there are a million illegal things that everyone is doing all the time and you just don't realize it because you don't know nobody knows all the laws. You can't you literally can't know because there's so many
Yeah, notice drum something up and like bone. Yeah, yeah.
It doesn't help that the Yeah, like Okay, nevermind let's just continue on what we're talking about.
gotta wear like and be from a data masks. Yeah. No one can see your faces can never prove we were there.
That's what I bought a you know what I bought a cafeteria. I'll Oh where that where oh where are where is that mateesah balaclava and a caveat at the same time
the perfect combination?
Think like we need to we need to have like Okay, so like telegram or not telegram sorry. Seriously? What's WhatsApp? Yeah, sorry. Well, thank you WhatsApp, WhatsApp is like relatively well encrypted. And you know or signal like you're saying, yeah, there's a bunch of places and if we're gonna have spicy conversations, they should probably be in those places.
Those places with disappearing messages. Yeah. Not disappearing. I mean, the problem is, is like yeah, like, you know, you get your phone taken or whatever
you're putting on.
Yeah, and then all of a sudden, like, okay, it's encrypted, and they have the fucking laptop with the encryption key. Yeah,
yeah, exactly.
But yeah, I mean, I don't think we have to go too crazy but yeah, keep the spicy conversations in a place that disappears after a bit and then you know, if you're taking your own personal notes and stuff keep that encrypted. And then we got to figure like we got to teach everyone how to like encrypt their personal computers
and stuff so we just need to teach people the basics of security don't accidentally give all your password don't give people too much like personal information where they could guess your password all the all the trainings that they do it like businesses basically that all that stuff applies,
so no one's gonna listen. Yeah, exactly. plug in USB drives that the police gave you.
But But that's, but that's the reason for like having cellular, like organizational structures is that you know, it's like it's like on the title, not the Titanic. About example, you know, there's ships with like walls basically that don't like bulkheads that close to keep the whole entire ship from flooding. Right. And so that's kind of the idea of like cellular organizations.
Yeah. Anything else?
We might add, we eventually might need to add a whole like security wing to
the organization happy. Wouldn't that be great? The a, the deal would be good.
DSA national has, like an entire like Secret Service basically.
I mean, they have like the Red Rabbit thrown over there. Yeah. Cuz I mean, yeah, eventually it would be good to like get our even our forum like hosted on our own computer instead of Yes, hosted by them. And
also just like being able to organize security for events and stuff would be good like our own personal security stuff would be good. That way we don't have to rely on some random security guard or whatever that we hire, you know?
Yeah. The cops like it Lodi pride. Yeah, that's, that's so strange.
Okay, anything?
I don't know. I think that's probably kind of
like what we're working on. Yeah, our queue stuff. The Palestine stuff. The other stuff. That's a current side quest. I don't think we have any other active side quests because we know stop doing the park cleanup. Yes. Which might I think we should do that in the summer thing. Even next week. It's too clear restarted. Yeah.
Yeah, maybe we can restart it. Like in the spring when it starts to warm up.
Yeah, hopefully.
Actually, the not.
Yeah. available then.
Not this year. But next year. Hopefully, we're more advanced than we are now. But maybe for the wintertime, like, like a coat driver of food distro or something something for, you know, people who are out in the cold basically.
Yeah, I like that. Yeah. I know. Like, again, my girlfriend's probably going to continue working at the garden at hatch. So we could do a food distro. I need to talk to Eleazar about it. But I talked to him about again, but I talked to him once. And he said he was down so they're willing to give food from the garden to people around him. Okay, cool.
And then yeah, let's, let's talk about perhaps expanding our educational thing. Yeah.
And and yeah, what was the what was the reading group thing that you said? I forgot.
One of them was the Marxist center. Yes. Like the people who were doing this is what got fucked up. Yeah. And also, they have a good section on Stalinism and why it's bad. Which, maybe that's something we need to read up on? Yeah, I mean, I guess I don't really know what kind of educational stuff people are after. There is a lot of like, half the shit you read online is dumb.
We, we I think that
you need to deprogram people for Yeah, I think
that some of the stuff that we need to focus on is like, basically local stuff, right? Because the place where people tend to get really divided politically, was like, basically everybody in the or in the ICU, we all agree more or less on the things that like we think are good. The place where we get divided is, you know, Ukraine, Russia, Taiwan, China, Israel, like things that don't fucking matter for Wu at all. Right? And so like, educationally, we should be focusing on, like you were saying the things that have failed in the past, right. And I think that we should avoid, how to think up new things at local, local activities that we can actually achieve. Right. And then also, I just want to talk about revolutionary optimism, because I think it's awesome.
Yeah, I think we need I mean, I think we also need to like, and this has nothing to do with socialism, but it's like what we've been missing. It's like, how do we actually deal with alienation? Yeah. And like, how do we, how do we overcome like all the kind of bad side effects that have come from this? You know, the current culture you know, like they're now they're doing studies of like how our current mental health system has is actually not great. You and has made everyone less resilient. And that's what led to a lot of people being more broken. Like you have wider awareness of mental health, less access to it. And even the access that people do have is either Instagram influencers, or like people who are ultimately not very helpful. So, you know, talk about some of that stuff, kind of figure out a way around accepting thing Mark says might have like the answer for the economic side of things. Yeah. But unless we it's like, you know, Marx is like the opium of the masses religion. Yeah, we need, we need actual medicine for the masses.
We need real opium.
Like, like that, like, that's the only way forward, right? It's, I think we can't move forward because everyone, like society is broken, which makes organizing any further very different. Kind of real difficult. Yeah. And unless we have, unless we have like a, quote unquote, normal and like, kind of keeled society. It's hard to, like, do anything else. Like, you can talk about all the ideas you want in your head. But if everyone says, like, Nope, I'm too afraid, or I don't want to or you know, blah, blah, then you're not gonna get anything done. And so yeah, I think that's something that we should talk about. And I think a lot of people see it, they just don't want to deal with it. So I think it might be a good way to, like, bring people in. But let's talk about
Yeah, it's been rebranded. And I would love, I don't know, I know, we flooded the idea before, super briefly. But just having like a discussion like this, bringing people in and being like, let's just have a discussion, but I don't know how you want to know how you get people out of their houses to come to just like, physically be in a space to be like, let's talk about stuff. But it'd be cool if our meetings were that if they were just like a forum, but I don't I don't know. I don't know how you get people motivated to be like, well, like this, this part of neoliberalism is stupid. It's like, Yeah, we all agree. Like I don't I tend to see that a lot. Like when we're doing tenant organizing, people go off on a tangent. And it's like, yeah, we agree with you. And I don't know how you, I don't know how you strike that chord with people to be like, You should come out and talk because we want to hear what you have to say.
Yeah, I mean, let's try. Let's see what, yeah, we'll keep doing it. I mean, like, we try to we try to read a good thing. It didn't go out. Well, so yeah, try something different. But yeah, we're not going to try
I think. So. Like what we're doing right now is basically like conversation, right? And like we're least compared to most evil, relatively well read on this subject. And I think that maybe what we need to do is to intermix people who are who have theory, right? And practice with people who don't, that way they can, like, they can hear the reasons why things don't work, or why things or why we think things do work or whatever, right? And just like getting that conversation start, like that's the like the individualist anarchist like conception of like how to do revolution, which isn't a terrible idea. It's just I feel like it's slightly incomplete. But it's basically just talking to people and like, getting them motivated and activated. Yeah. I mean,
yeah. And I mean, I think the people that know the theory also need to interact with people who the real people.
Yes, theory, the theory. Yeah.
actually interact with real life. And that's usually where everything falls apart. It'd be good to combine the two. Yes, yeah. Okay, okay. Cool. Anything else has been happening, or has been an hour? Two hours. Anyway, got down.
Okay, so I think that we basically have so let's just real quick recap the agenda. So it's security meeting, talks about the dangers of Red Scare climate. See if their members are available for the December 1, two you meeting scheduled a phone bag for the for the week prior? Talk about Palestine, whatever that is. I don't know. Exactly.
I put them out and
stuff about it. Okay. Cool. Find the thing that we've been trying to do forever, which is find a location for the first meeting. I put some reading group stuff, and then what did you put with the Palestine thing that live on?
Then actions that we shouldn't be taking?
Okay, cool. All right. I think that's pretty much everything right?
Yeah, we'll stop that. Oh, nominations. We have to Oh, yeah. We announce nominations at this at this meeting and the next meeting will be back to election.
Okay, Okay, cool. Good. Okay. Yep. All right.
All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. All
right. Also no problem.
Yeah, I'll send you the video.
Okay, I'll add it and then
post Okay, cool. Bye. All right, guys, alright
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