One of the interesting things here is that for a lot of for a lot of us a lot of just people living in the world, but also for a lot of therapists is the They're whatever body biases they have, that are kind of steeped and ingrained in this culture of fatphobia. Like you mentioned, they can hide from us really easily, because oftentimes, they exist in us as just like, healthy lifestyle stuff. And we can, you know, we can subtly say to ourselves, when we look in the mirror, like, Oh, I've gained a couple pounds this week, I'm gonna, you know, I'm going to, or, you know, I'm going to stop eating this, or I'm going to change this and God, look at you look how much your body has changed over the pandemic. And we can say these things to ourselves, and just have it under the guise of like, oh, no, I'm just I'm prioritizing my health. And it's like, Is that Is that helping you feel? Well, that kind of talk, right? And so I think, for me understanding, even just being able to figure out what those biases were was a process because I was untangling that from, you know, the fatphobia that comes out of the medical community. I was untangling that from Yeah, just expectations of this unchanging, an aging body that I had, right? It was just like, Oh, my God, I, I it was one day that someone had looked at me and was sayinsg, you know, anytime you want to make a comment about yourself and your body, I want you to imagine saying it to me first, would you ever see, you know, would you ever say that to me? And that was such a helpful reframe, for me, in my own relationship with my body is being like, wow, where do we get the language to say such mean things to ourselves, when we would never say those things to the people in our life, we would never feel that way about the people in our life, right. But we can do that with ourselves. That was kind of part of the undoing process that you mentioned, and how slippery it can be. And maybe to your point, what I wanted to share was the importance of expanding as clinicians intentionally expand, where you get your information from who you follow on Instagram, and tick tock the types of conferences that you attend, because, you know, take it from me and take it from, maybe you all can, both of you can support this idea as well. But these biases are slippery, and we don't necessarily realize how they can impact our clients and our you know, our young clients or older clients. In that, that's something that we have to keep in mind. Because working with clients with eating disorders, they they are going to hear any internalized bias we have around this Yeah, they have very strong bullshit meters and and so if we're not checking the type of language that we're using, we could be proliferating these ideas and our clients, we could be, you know, confirming their suspicions about some of these ideas, and we could be harming them. Yeah. So we are we still have a little bit of time left in the podcast today. And I was wondering, now I'm, like springing this on you, I was wondering if you could, if we could kind of share with our listeners, maybe a case study, and then the three of us talk through kind of maybe step by step some of the questions or, or, or, you know, different actions that you might take working with this with this fictional client. Where would you go? How would y'all feel about that? Sure. Okay. Okay, cool. So, I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually list out a fictional client.