wait, 18 Maybe 19 who knows, I was like racism is still here!? Right? Yeah. And I imagine, right, because that's a lot of people. It might have been like the Freedom Summer of 2020 was that moment for people that was like, you know, come outside this way, you know. And so once I figured that out, and I came across that, and that really illuminated some of my prior experiences, being like someone who grew up poor and always felt the kind of way that I grew up in an apartment, and all of my friends had like, their nice homes, and I was raised by my grandparents and my friends had their biological parents. And so lots of stuff around family that we think is so specific, lots of stuff around culture, being a girl who my femininity didn't look like other people's femininity and having to experience the backlash of not performing in that kind of way. Thank you patriarchy and being like, what is happening here. I was like, oh, no, wait, I need to tell everyone who will listen, can even if you want to listen, I was like, I'm gonna tell you anyway. Do you know about transphobia? I was like, yeah, it's out here. Like, we should do something about this. And it wasn't until the end of college that I became a Women's Studies major. And then I minored in Black Studies, and I was like, who's gonna pay me to like, brush it down? No one's gonna pay me to be like, Okay, I'm a really good student. Let me keep going to school. So my dad actually found this social work program that had a focus in community organizing, and based on all of like, the research and my readings, and I was like, Oh, lots of activists are doing this thing called coming to Oregon. I think it seems like the way I understood it then was like, okay, the most the people most impacted by an issue are the ones creating the change. That seems like the purest way, right? Versus like a top down approach. Or let me come in and tell you what the problem is kind of approach when they do that. And so I did that in grad school and then taught from nonprofit to nonprofit learning about what does it mean to learn about leadership from the people, which is like the one of my taglines right that I'm like, I didn't. I wasn't a senior executive. It wasn't like country, you should be Oh, to the leadership role. I was like to listen to people like what are people saying? How do we figure out what people want? What do they need? How do we help people tap into their own innate abilities? And how do we get people to talk to people, right, particularly people who really care about the same things like can we help them be in conversation, which I later learned? I'm like, oh, that's baby coaching, right? them, like, how are we moving towards a goal is coaching. And so up until Fast Forward recently, where the thing that pushed me to entrepreneurship was that nonprofits love a good a good slogan, they love thinking about change. But one of the things that I named in some of the responses to your questions was around the ways that we target the disrupter. Who were the dissenters, who were the people that ask too many questions or require accountability, and really asks us to grapple with like, we got this equity, because equity value, how are we doing that? We got this accessibility value, how are we doing that we got this relationships or care about you, but people are tired, if you're tired, or people are burned, or people are XYZ, what do we do about that? And it's nice to say that people are like, Yeah, we care about it. But then when you are the person who's like, what are we doing about these things? You're gonna turn it on your back. And so me along with some other folks in my team, we decided to leave, we're like, we can't, we can't be any longer did the change that we can do. And I know, that's like a theme. And folks are leaving the traditional workforce right now that like, particularly if folks are or care about social justice and change or like, the question, we did the asking, we sat down, we had the conversations, go, I'm gonna go do something else. I'm gonna go make art, I'm gonna go be an entrepreneur, I'm gonna go travel. And I really want to help us help places do better than I'm like, work doesn't have to be this way. Particularly, it's something that we have to spend so much time doing, like a third of our lives is just producing labor. Or if you exist in the world, and you believe in purpose, and and we all have, like gifts thing to bring, there's a lot of time that we're spinning around. And I'm just like, you, I don't want us to do it this way any longer. And so I branched out, I'll say, let's see, let's see what we can do.