Oh, absolutely, thank you. I should be, should have been at anchor nets, which is their annual conference, 2025, today. It started yesterday. It's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Shelby is schools, health, libraries, broadband and Vanessa, sorry, I didn't introduce myself. I'm Mala morely. Daren, I work at the State Library, and I take care of E Rate for public libraries. I help train applicants to apply for library applicants to apply for a rate, which is a complex process to get their funding back for internet and internal connections. And I'm supposed to have a counterpart who does this and for schools. But currently, it is still kind of iffy, and it does get there are a lot of questions and program integrity that has to go through the year, and you probably are well aware of that. So setting that that's the context in which I work, and I also represent the State Library at Shelby, which is schools, health, libraries, broadband coalition, and they do a lot of great work In this area, both with FCC, with USAC, with other organization, USAC is the universal universal services administrative company that administers the E Rate funding and several other organizations Like our ALA. ALA is the American Library Association, and we have a task force, and need a task force that actually helps the helps lift up the grassroot level issues to the national level, so that we can find solutions for it at the national level. So that's, that's the area in which I work, and Shelby is currently having their annual conference, which I was supposed to go to, but I couldn't, because I tore my Torah ligament, and I'm hobbling, and I've been able to go, so I canceled that. So here I am talking about what Shelby does, and it is a great organization for you to it is a member organization, but it's great to be a part of it, because they work in several areas, not just on E Rate, but on broadband deployment, which you have been involved with, with issues, nitty gritty issues like pole attachments, because in Arizona, poll attachments are very, very important, because there are many areas where we cannot put the cables underground, because not, not feasible, and because of environment issues as well as tribal land issues, and we are having to do those on do the, you know, put those broadband cables on poles, and it becomes very, very difficult, because right now, many of the polls, people don't know who owns it. People don't know what then, who's responsible for their maintenance and upkeep and things like that. So and there are no set raw rules in Arizona about who does what, when, where on on these polls. So that is, that's an area that is that they are working on. They're also working on Spectrum issues and on health related broadband related to health. So there are many areas, hot spots and Wi Fi is, is another hot topic that they are working on. And just last week, we had Ramesh Nagarajan, who is, who was on the team with Jessica Rosenworcel, the former FCC chair. He he attended, he came to to our meeting and talked about the hotspots and Wi Fi being. Not their funding being taken away by FCC for 2025 onwards, hot spots, as you are aware, and Wi Fi on school busses was permitted to be paid through E Rate by Jessica Rose more so when she was a chair and 2024 when it started. 2024 was the first year when it when applicants could apply for hot spots and Wi Fi on school busses. But 2025 they have withdrawn the support for that. But in some ways, Ramesh was saying, just as we all know, that it is good that it happened through FCC and not through a CRA on through the government, because then you could never get it back on the table again. But at least this can come back when the next FCC chair, if the next FCC chair is willing to consider it. So all is not lost. And in the meanwhile, there are several organizations that are stepping up to help in the interim, one of them being mission telecom and AZ st st in Arizona, you you probably have heard of AZ strut the Yes, I have Yeah. The recycling organization, they, together with Mission Telecom, have decided to help bridge the gap at least this year for those who have applied for through E Rate, for hot spots and Wi Fi on school busses that they will bridge this year, because they they were anticipating to be funded, and it has been suddenly withdrawn. So they would do it at the same rate at which they would have got they would have paid, if they had gotten it through the E Rate, so that that's a good thing. Going forward, we have to decide again, who's going to support it and how, because it is a popular need and and it does help bridge the gap. So let's see what happens in that area? We spoke with Ramesh also about the non deployment bead funds. As you were aware, the funding for for bead had there were bead funding. We the Arizona received almost a billion dollars. Was approved for Arizona, and some of it was for fiber build out, or for satellite or whatever options were on the plan. And Erin knows she was actively a part of the planning team at the commerce authority, but there was also some funding for other activities like cyber security, broadband adoption and and also anchor institutions as were defined differently, as places, not just libraries and schools, but in the broader sense, a place where the community gathered. So like it could be a Boys and Girls Club, it could be a church, it could be senior homes and things like that places. So all of those now are under almost going, are probably, or likely to be taken away. So I don't know exactly what the status is with NTIA and with the non deployment funding right now, but Ramesh spoke about about, you know, ludnik wanting it to take it back, and there's been bipartisan pushback on on it, especially for adoption and cyber security, there is no use for building it out if you're not going to do follow through with adoption, especially since the digital inclusion funds have been taken away. So the inclusion, the adoption, the teaching people how to use it, the navigation, all of that plays a very important role, if bead has to make any sense. So we spoke at length about it. We also spoke about the USF contribution reform, which is another topic that Shelby considers the USF funding is what is the basis on which the E Rate funding is distributed so several. Yes, it was the landline