Lesley

SSteven JouwersmaNov 9, 2020 at 11:02 am1h 30min

Christina Stadlbauer

00:01

Thanks a lot for making space for this podcast. I'm very excited to talk to you, because we have worked together a long time ago. But yeah, well to that, after 2012 13 to 1414. Yes, 14 was the last time, we haven't really worked together anymore. And I actually also don't know. So where what you're doing at the moment. So I'm very excited to hear. And I would like to start with asking you to tell me about your favourite museum. And maybe you can describe a little bit what this museum is like, and also what it is that inspires you what it is that you like about it.

Lesley Kadish

00:42

Okay, give me a second to think. I think what I'll have to do instead, is piece together my favourite moments of museums. Because I don't have one favourite museum. But as soon as you ask, for some reason, the first thing that came to mind was a museum in Baltimore. It was probably the Baltimore Museum of Art. And I'm probably not even saying that right. But I, I was having heartbreak at the time. And I went into a gallery. And I don't remember what I saw. But it was an Art Gallery. And it was really typical white walls, colourful objects on the walls, there was a first time that I understood the idea of the museum as a sanctuary. Because I did actually get out of my get out of myself enough to feel the spaciousness and to feel that connection to things that had happened long before me and things that were not connected to this intensity of feelings that I was having. And in that moment, I really needed I needed the sort of the airiness of that space, I needed the coolness of that space, I needed the whiteness of the walls of that space. I needed this sort of puncture of intensity of the colour of the art that was on the walls. And, you know, I don't remember anything that the label tech said, I don't remember learning anything. I just remember that. I felt that I felt invited. And I felt like I could breathe.

Christina Stadlbauer

02:57

And

Lesley Kadish

02:58

so I think about you know, if I were to sort of make a little, a little trip tick, sort of an oral trip tick there's the entry way to the the Helsinki Art Museum, what does that one called? kiasma. Y'all, it's, there's a moment where we you walk in, you go past the coat, the coat, check people, and you start to ascend. And there's that feeling of ascension. Excuse me, there's a feeling of ascension. And that always opens me to sort of be prepared for what is going to happen next.

Lesley Kadish

03:48

And I never really go to museums knowing what the exhibitions will be. And I never really go to museums in search of knowledge. So it's kind of ironic that I've spent my entire life working in museums because I

Lesley Kadish

04:06

am not a text reader. And I I wouldn't necessarily choose to go to museums if I didn't just happen to go to museums all the time.

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