2Sep21 Community Call
9:40PM Sep 6, 2021
promises to remind you. So a couple of things we want to talk about. Just with this small group. We send out a letter yesterday. We did you all three of you get it.
may have gotten it, but I didn't see it.
I haven't seen.
It was it was sent via our, you know, the message that you did you get a message this morning, reminding you about the call today? No.
Oh, well, they may not have checked their email.
I'm looking at it right now.
I've checked my email, but maybe it goes to spam. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't check spam.
It's in my spam filter.
Okay. Okay. That's good to know. Because I sent out a note yesterday, just a general updating on the community, and about some logistical changes that we're considering making. So we're thinking of talking about those today and getting your feedback and thoughts about those. And if we have time, then we also were thinking of talking about connecting to the higher self, and the the, the difficulties of doing that, and the sort of daily practices that can build a more solid connection, which also at the same time, strength, strength strengthens us, for the work of transforming the lower. So that's, I mean, it's a it's a big topic, but it is the topic of the third module. And it's just a very light touching, and to see what practices you guys already have. And you know, just to share around that, and see where you could improve things or the struggles or anything like that. So that's what we had in mind for today. Yeah,
where did that letter yesterday come from?
It was it came out of the community platform system. So I have everyone it would work for, it should have been sent to you in an email.
But who's the sender?
It's not an I don't have it?
To none of you got it?
No, I got it. Oh, you got okay. It was in my spam filter.
Okay, it's not a match bean filter.
Okay, well, I might send it again. But via email from my email account that might get through the spam filters. So the gist of the letter was basically saying that we we want, there's a there's been some internal shifting for Jeff and me and over the last month, as we've, you know, been on vacation and and sent iron off to Sweden. And we've just sort of stepped back and looked at it all before we sort of move into the fall and increased activity. And looking at how far we've come, but also the expectations that we started with, that have been adjusted over the months that we've been doing this. One thing is the sort of financial piece of this, where it's really the whole that the magenta school is really happening and being developed off the side of our desks, because it's not a financially viable thing. And the reason why is because this is a cultural spiritual initiative, much more than it is an economic offering. And we did look at well, bringing it more fully into the economic realm in the true sense of three folding, and what we've learned from three folding and but they're, you know, the pandemic has shifted things in particular ways, especially with the market that we know which has professional change agents, it has shifted to such a degree because of the pandemic, that it doesn't feel like a viable market opportunity in our minds, and it's certainly not a boulder of trying to promote and sell a training and social sculpture in that particular market. And the other problem is when you try and bend a sculptural What is essentially a cultural spiritual impulse around an economic offering? It can, it can distort things and in subtle ways. So we're kind of like, we really stepped back and said, we don't, we actually don't want to do that. And maybe if the pandemic hadn't happened, we might have continued to pursue, you know, that professional change agent market. But since the pandemic and watching how, you know, all the pieces have fallen, for how the cookie has crumbled, however you put that, you know, we're where we've been saying, maybe we just let this be what it is a truly cultural spiritual impulse. And what that has done is opened and freed things up in ways that have felt very healthy and very good. And has, in a way revitalized the project and brought to the foreground, as I said, in our email, the the original impulse that we started with, with the school, which is eventually an in person, place, like a castle, I've always imagined a castle, with many rooms, many studios, many places in which we can have provide experiences of creative activity. So you can participate in music, and performance and theater, but you can also get into pottery, painting, wood, work, stone work, all of these physical analog activities that an online program can never really truly, you know, provide for people. So, so this is all sort of, you know, percolating and the kind of the, the result of it is to work, it's speeding up the process of development of, of uploading and developing and finishing the curriculum, because it's been so slow. And so we've got some progress happening there.
The other thing is to reduce the the frequency of the community calls. And this is where we great to get your, your feedback and ideas to more like once a month. But when we do it, we do it for two hours. So that's a and then we can really, I think, bring more of the community members in because it's less of a commitment. Doing it every week. So this is a part of what we're what we're sitting with. And I think now that I know that you guys are not receiving these emails, I can make a more concerted effort to reach out to everyone you know, and start building a bit of a dialogue. So that's one thing. And the other implication is to move away from the buddyboss community platform, which is glitchy and not working that great over to something called discord, which we've been experimenting with the last couple of weeks, which we really like. But that we haven't really fully decided on that yet. Yeah, so I think that's the update. Jeff, do you have any other anything else to add to that? before we turn it over to you guys?
sorry, I was this was my mom is asking me how we're gonna support ourselves. And I'm like, talk about that later offline. Not a
I mean, the fact is, we, you know, we've had friends and advisors saying this all along. David Ames has said it, Tim, you've said it, you've noticed it, you know, and and. And so, you know, and I and I, even Dennis sort of demonstrated it when he did go to and studied security and studies was the most valuable course I've ever taken. But when you do the numbers, I think he was paid $20,000 a year to do that course back when and to say not to throw shade on the Rudolf Steiner College and the people ran that. But the fact is our culture, our economic system and our cultural system, our society is not yet configured in such a way people don't think in such a way to really support these impulses in the right way. And this was a big learning experience with David Ames earlier this year, who I met through LinkedIn, whom are now serving as a client. Because he's got a concrete company and and magenta and Steve Atkinson up, Rios are doing a culture, mark a culture and capability model building contract for him. So what we've been wrestling with is, is sort of the moral dilemma of like, we're artists, we want to bring this cultural, spiritual impulse. But we can't make a living doing this. What do we do? And so that's, you know, we've tried it 17 different ways. But one thing that has made this really clear is seeing in the last few months, what a market actually looks and feels like. And so we've had this sort of parallel experience of watching a market develop and seeing people paying money for stuff instead of and huge amounts of money, transacting in this new space, that's all around NF T's, like a billion dollars of exchange among 50,000 people in the first two weeks of August, just on one website. And we've been kind of a part of that, because we're artists, and we're watching that we've been like, you know, we'll make we're not in a market with magenta, we're in a niche of a niche of a niche of a niche of a niche of a market. And that's, that's also been illuminating to realize, you know, what, we just need to switch gears here, and separate the cultural spiritual work from the economic money earning work, and let them let them both develop. So that's been, you know, that's been really hard. I mean, the obvious choice for me, has been, well, why don't you just go do consulting. And the fact is, I don't have the energy to do consulting, I just, it's very rare to find a client like David Ames, who actually wants to do what needs to be done.
Because my orientation as a consultant is, if you want to fix what's out there, you have to include what's in here. And that is very countercultural, if you want to do it exactly. You know, not if you want to put your hands on stones, and have sort of sort of these quasi mystical experiences, you know, with these quasi mystical teachers, but if you want to really take a phenomenological approach, we're, it's just still too early in our culture, is my assessment to make a living being that kind of teacher or consultant. So we've had to, we've had to step back and evaluate this and to release his point, that also frees us up to number one, streamline the course. But number two, you know, as we do so, to ask the community and open it up for what, what can happen here, if it's allowed to live on its own terms. And I just see all kinds of possibilities for it. If, if it doesn't have to make a million dollars, you know, then it can, it can bear fruit. So this is where we are.
Yeah, so anyway, I just want to hear from you guys and see what comes up. I mean, one thing that Jeff and I are aware of is that we're not stepping back in terms of continuing and finishing the curriculum and in keeping it alive. But stepping back in terms of allowing this impulse to be to to be what it needs to be in our time. that's appropriate. Yeah. So that's kind of what we're listening in for. And so when you coming from the other point of view, you guys what comes up in you when you imagine this, you know, this impulse and what you know and about it and your experiences with us and with the curriculum in terms of Yeah, just what comes up for you guys.
I think for me, the marketing always didn't seem to fit in all the different ways you tried to market the program wasn't just seemed odd to me, it wasn't a good fit to in terms of the curriculum and what you're really doing. So, this feels like a good move in terms of sort of, not going through all of those efforts around marketing, and sort of being in your, I don't know why I'm saying, use your true home. Those words came up. Because I found it hard, even referring people to magenta, even though I'm excited about it, because that somehow the marketing was a barrier. So I'll just stop there, as and when I think for myself, and you know, related to my, my work, you know, with nonprofits, what I would have wanted is a studio space. Even you could consider a conversation and social related work, you know, along with all of the things you mentioned.
Definitely moving to Sebastopol if that happens
you're right here bags are
packed. I can tell my bags are
Thank you, Mary. there's a there's a good reflections.
What was that second one about the studio? Oh,
I'm low. We've shared her picture of a castle and my the images I have, you know, for my future work if if it was still in the nonprofit realm was a studio where I could where I would be able to create the space and time for the work to truly happen because it has to be in spaces important and a creative spaces really important.
Thank you, Mary, thank
you for those honest and reflect, you know, honest reflections. This is what we need.
I tried to create a studio space within a conference at the Marriott in Oakland, but that wasn't a because the time was regimented. It it didn't work. Right.
To ensue, got Any thoughts?
Yeah, I've got a million
but I don't even say that.
But yeah, I don't know what's most useful in the short time we have. I think I think it's essential to really get the clay on the wheel. And and to really kind of throw in center the clay of the curriculum, enough to really make sure that it's all in one place and that that the those of us that have signed up can really start working with it. I think a lot will come from release The full curriculum that you've imagined, in whatever form you can get it out. Yeah. Yeah. And, and really kind of make that gift to the world so that the world can give you back what it has to say. Yeah. And I think a lot will come from that. Secondly, I have this sense that three folding is so often tied up in prying apart the spheres. And really identifying what's in the right sphere, that it forgets to that each sphere also is threefold within itself. You know, that, and I use the example that the, the head has a metabolism stick element, and that the jaw and the creative capacity of the head is is essential to the real functioning of the whole organism, it's arguably the most essential that as we breathe and eat, that's the head, beginning the metabolism. And that the in that way, I think the real gap that you perceived is the lack of consciousness of the role of thinking in the will or of cultural practice in economic activity is an absolute truth that is absolutely needed of our time. And so I don't necessarily agree that there's not an economic necessity that could Foster and support the recognition and role of reintegrating cultural practices, to economic practices, and really giving life to the role of intuition, imagination and inspiration in our economic life. That's what I understood the goal of this school to be.
as much as I want to honor the truth that you guys have arrived, that I do still believe in that also is true.
Yeah, that's a helpful term. Thank you. I think what we just in response to especially the second point, I think the challenge that we've seen is that the space in which we know the market that we know, which is you know, change agency, there's this massive elephant in the room, that unfortunately, social sculpture confronts people with right out the gate. And there are several massive, probably several mass of elephants in the room that cut right to the heart of the matter when it comes to efforts to create social change. So there was there was sort of one one thing we realized that especially with this pandemic, it has the whole field in our in our we could be wrong, but in our sort of since has regressed has doubled down on to convention and tried and true. And there's a lot more black and white fear. And it's not a it isn't a good time to try and push our agenda into that market. So that's, that's one thing. And in terms of the I agree with you, Tim, that there is an economic opportunity here. But we have to, we have to discover it, but not by pushing and not by finding and hunting. We it is going we have to create a vacuum into which the opportunity can then reveal itself to us, and it's not going to be where we've been looking. Let's put it that way.
No, that goes to your first point,
I think absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. For sure. Yeah. And I do think that you know, the old French sent you can't you can't fight for freedom. If you're worried about bread. Like Yeah, the role of, of crisis, triggering us into our lower limbic systems. Yeah. And especially the ICD Legion that comes from you know, all of us working from home or so many more of us working from home a lot more are not interacting or not collaborating with each other. And to me, that means that it's even more needed right now? Yeah, I do recognize that the challenge of staying and being and being maintaining the facade of professionalism is really the antithesis of your program.
Yeah. And the, the invitation to be real vulnerable and go through micro traumas, together with your colleagues, is terrifying. For any organization, yeah, much less the individuals within an organization. Because that's pretty much you know, the big variables that yakka that that capitalism tries to isolate, from having to rely on humans to achieve their endeavors is to remove the humaneness and the messiness of being human, from the productivity of the intent of the company. Obviously, that's why you guys see, that's the flaw. That's why the change agents don't work. That's why you know, why the model of producing a car can't be transferred to changing society? Yeah. And I think really, you know, I've said to you guys in several other venues that, that the management and marketing is really the key. And, and the only the way into this is to create that backing like you see. Yeah. And I do agree also that that physical sites are where it's at, you know, the micro universities are going to be growing madly.
The one there's one here in Portland called the Wayfinding. Academy, that's just, like, tripled in the last two years. Wow. Good for Dan. Yeah, yeah. So but it does. It does make it a hard play. And I, you know, obviously, you guys have stretched yourselves to the limit with the version of it, that you play that. And just so grateful that you want to continue to unfold and expose your process and the curriculum for collaboration. Yeah, because I do think that's where, where there is maybe a little bit more of an economic play. The four, you know, that's not necessarily consulting, but full scale field testing the program in businesses, and making use of some of your first students as a team to help that happen. Yeah, that's what Boris wants to do. By the way, though, yeah.
I hear students over in Hong Kong, and that was his first idea is like, Man, what are you talking about? You could you could streamline it, distill it down and be running it in corporations for, you know, as much money as you want to ask? Yeah. And so that's certainly a possibility. But it's, can you can or sorry, can it's a contingent upon our streamlining the curriculum, and then getting this getting this dialogue going in this community and field testing and all that. So that's, I think that's the work that we'll be doing, you know, between now and Christmas, is modules two and three with video and four through, I think it's just going to be seven, four through seven in PDF form. Instead of nine, because 789 are all kind of similar. They're just three, they're just different scales, the set of three folding. Yeah,
I think that's really valuable to you know, map the highlights, so someone can skip along the stepping stones, and then between the stepping stones start to go underwater to the parts that have more substance. Yeah, but if they don't get a sense of the arc, across the river, and then they can go away where the meat is, is down in, you know, like, I can actually get substance out of this. If I take it deeper. Yeah, that's, that's the piece that you get to the end of seven, you're like, Okay, all these things are real. And they will come to life in you if you dive deeper in one through.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's a it's a very interesting challenge. I mean, just so you guys know, this is our life's work, and and we have become less and less attached to the form of it. And detaching from the economic imperative. And having other means in which we can support ourselves has been a very, very big step for us, and an unexpectedly fruitful one. But it is big Cause it's what it because it is our life's work we are confronted by the lack of, of this substance. It's not it doesn't belong to us, right? We have inherited this from mighty people like Dennis and coolant and Stein and bla bla. So we're just trying to find the right form and form is, is very, very critical. And it may well be a situation in which the form is constantly changing. Yeah. And that's very challenging. Because we, because form gives us a sense of stability, and safety. And so when you when you have to be, as I read in the book of the steiners, lectures to the priests about the book of Revelation, he was saying, when you're doing this work of renewing spiritual impulses, and being a part of a spiritual impulse, you must be absolutely unattached to success or failure. It cannot be distorted by success or failure. And this is absolutely true. So there's no lessening of our commitment. And there's no, you know, stepping back in the sense of, Okay, we're gonna stick out this is it, but we're allowing this to really, fundamentally shift in terms of what the next steps are. Yeah.
Yeah, and I think that's, that's the key, like I said, you know, to get the program out there to get the content to really figure out the outline, you know, then the depth and substance can come in between to fill in, you know, get the armature clear for the scaffold, you know, or the scaffolding so that you can start adding clay to the overall. Yeah, yeah. And that, that others can add clay too. I think that, you know, it's really, it's a lot for this to try and be on you guys only, it's, you know,
yeah, it's been a, it's been a quite a journey. And it would be great, it would be great too. As we kind of shift in our energy systems, and want to create more of a vacuum. That there there is a corresponding response in the student body so far, which is about 50 people. It's not it's not nothing, right, in terms of the people. And then just seeing, like you said earlier, Tim, what what the world has to say, in response to this energetic shift?
Yeah, because I think the proof that the outline is universal is in the its applicability in Universal mediums. And recognizing that we can apply this process to multiple different things. Yeah, person working with clay, working with, you know, these things. So you can have that level of field test track record that shows the model, like vortex mathematics applies, no matter what the medium is. Yeah. And I think, you know, the, the book I'm working on right now is called the wisdom of geometry. And that's really kind of looking at that same thing of like, Look, there's the form is essential. The medium says something back to the form. And the that dialogue is what manifests. Yeah. I'm writing it right now. Are you writing a book? Okay. Yeah. Brian gray and I are trying to figure out that kind of an introduction to reading the world through geometry. Cool, awesome. Oh, yeah. Mary, Mary.
I was just talking to someone a few days ago, and she was telling me about a Ayurvedic doctor, somewhere in the Midwest who really wants to create more accessibility essentially, more of a three fold picture that those weren't the words that she used. And the model he is wanting to implement a doctor in India have created more accessibility he he did cataract surgery and hurt him? Yeah. So, um, what I'm saying, you know, when she mentioned that, you know, just this sort of light, and this picture of the future came up. Um, and so I think there will be opportunities coming up in that where people like this doctor will want to work in this way and the curriculum will be there, there will be many places in the world, you know, for the curriculum, to work. What was impressive about the doctor in India was he was so good at what he did, that both wealthy people and those and more need came to him. And because he was so good. The income from those that were wealthy, it all worked out.
Yeah. I have this book.
Oh, yeah. I have that to have party, right. Yes.
Yeah. Read it. It's 111. Vision. One something vision Academy. Yes. Infinite vision. Infinite vision. Yeah. I was fascinated by his business model. Yeah, well, yeah.
That's very clever. So yeah, part of it, I think, is, you know, if you are very good at what you're doing the ability then to do more. So in some ways, by concentrating on the cultural element, or finishing the curriculum, all of that that is best you can. Yeah, it will. There will be uses and demand for that. In the future. Yeah, I
hope so. I hope so. And we shall see. But like, like you both, like you're saying, the critical piece here is we finished the curriculum. And then, and then we can start to have some real dialogue around, you know, we're next. But I, but Oh, Sue, I want you to say what you're gonna say, but let me just say something, something that Tim said earlier, which was, we don't really want. I have an experience with a favorite blogger, where it's all about horses, and I follow her work. And she is no holds barred. She talks, she tells the truth as it is, she doesn't care about professionalism. She's consistent in her work. That's where she shows up as a professional, but it's all about her processes and all about, you know, the struggles and the learning limits, you know, the limit experiences in relation to horses, right. And it's all personal development. And that's how I want to be, you know, that's how I want us to be in this space. Because we're all learning together. It's not like Jeff and I are the experts. You know, we're putting this together and everything that we put together, we have worked through ourselves, but it doesn't mean that we are further along. If you see I'm saying so. So that's a big shift that feels more authentic. And getting out of the social change. world which needs a professional veneer is essential so that we ourselves can show up the way that we really want to show up in this space. Something I want to say about Sumo. I would love to hear what's coming up for you.
Well, what I'm going to piggyback on what Mary and Tim said about once you get this curriculum out there, then it has the potential to attract the energy, you know, to attract what you need. And is that what you mean by creating a vacuum? Yeah, yeah. So that's an I agree totally agree with Mary about the the way that marketing has felt. I've had the same reservations, Mary about introducing people to it because of the the marketing fields has felt odd. You
mean the website? That no
No, no. I send people to the website all the time. But in terms of talking to people about joining, and, and paying money out, you know, as I say out of that, because it feels, I don't know, I don't know how it feels, it just feels odd. It's that's not
marketing, that's just asking for money. Or, you know, when
you when you talked about the, you know, getting out of the, the, the model of professional change agent, I breathed a sigh of relief that, but I hadn't. I hadn't heard you say that. Right, in that field. But I've heard you say that what the direction that that community is going? Hmm, and and how at odds you are with that? Secondly, I want to say that you are the experts. In at this point in time, you are the experts. Like it or not you the two of you have worked with these, with what these great minds have handed down, you sorted through what and how it works. And and you you are, you are the experts, along with people like Tim and Mary and, and whoever else support you. I'm not one of them. But I'm one of your Devo days, and I look forward to these calls they the conversations of which having no place else in the world that I had in my life. And this is this is this is gold for me. And my third question, my first third point is how can we as a community, as smallest we are that way? Those people who regularly show up? You know, eight or so of us? And and how do we invite in engage others? How do we support you during this change? so that you're not feeling like you're just out there floating?
Huh? Well, thank you for that question. You know, I don't feel I don't feel like I'm out there floating. I feel like I'm internally moving into a space of more of more of what I have both listening to what I need, or how I want to show up in a space that I'm a part of big part of creating the possibility of, which is you know, what? authenticity?
Yeah, I mean, that this is a lot right there. But
right. Well, when Tim said, and I can feel my body responds when you said this, Tim, he said, dropping the professionals veneer is terrifying. And, and there's a I know exactly what you mean, as a former therapist, you know, I'm operating in a whole different realm now without any veneer of professionalism. And yet still using my skills and my wisdom and my knowledge and, and and watching you to do that has to has to feel unsettling in reading, not terrifying, but but unsettling in some way. And so
I've never been successful with a veneer. So it doesn't really work for me. I find people understand much better when I don't have a professional veneer. So the question is, for me,
I think that's true. That's true.
I think the challenge comes up because people are within organizations that Yeah, their their sense of perception from others determines their growth and livelihood. Yes, your growth is connected to miss perceiving you, then you don't get to be yourself. Yeah.
And that has been that has played into things for us. Because we do have students in the school, how we, as Jeff and Louisa show up in the social social media space has been important to them. So this this definitely has been a an issue. But I think you know, we do have precedents and examples out there of and we're all collectively moving into the space of the more authentic you are. The more of a vacuum you create and the more successful you can be in What you're trying to do now that can veer off into personality, cult type stuff like Tony Robbins and whatever, that's obviously not at all interesting to us. But I think the other thing that I really I would like everyone, I think, I think the way where I'm sort of what's arising in me, maybe that's best way to put it is that we become more of a community, instead of Jeff and Louisa being the experts in the space, because I think my you know, because I work one on one with people in the coaching thing. So I get to, I get to know people on a very intimate basis. And there are some remarkable, I mean, everyone is remarkable in, in these very unique ways. And it's kind of like, there's such insight and such experience that just needs to be brought forward and articulated, and then respected, seen and heard. And given the respect and the in the interest that is due to that suffering, and that knowledge and that hard one, right life experience. This, this is a community in which I would like that to be valued, because we don't value culture, this is part of the mission of what we wanted to do, we don't value that inner experiences the way that we should. So finding ways to be together without an old being on Jeff and me about where we're kind of like a self organized community. That's the next task. And I did have some thoughts about that. But I'm letting them sort of hang in the air one of witches cohort based, because that has proven itself to be a very community led type process. It's just a huge amount of work. And so it's sort of not ready for that yet. Anyway, so that's those are my thoughts, any, any what's coming up in you guys?
Yeah, those were several, the thoughts that came up for me was that possibility, you know, going deeper once a month with you all and or, you know, content shared, but then having the rhythm of the weekly call changing kind of theme and topic where people can dip in or not, and kind of be in a cohort format, sharing their experiences with whatever the topic is, you know, so those that really want to have the weekly rhythm, not necessarily need it to be facilitated. But, you know, maybe share some gurteen conversation dynamics, so that then people can be attentive to their process and not feel so called out personally when they're reminded. But that we could take on, you know, any of the subtopics from the curriculum together in conversation. And so, you know, it's more open format. And, you know, maybe those can be recorded too. And if anyone has an issue with them, they can be reviewed. But that does seem to be a possibility to allow those that don't have a classroom to try and make this black mirror into more of that studio space, each other exploring and finding ways to, you know, invite you guys out to real places that can give you a chance to play out some of this, like the program I'm working on right now. And I'm sure a lot of others can find ways to invite you guys in to field test encapsulated portions of it, and then maybe look at expanding them.
I'd like for you to say more about that, Tim. I mean, that field testing, how people would invite Jeff and Louisa
Well, I think, you know, people are really hungry to get out and do some work together. And finding ways to do that on sites where it's, you know, either safe enough or they figured out a way to avoid the liability of causing pandemic pandemonium. So, you know, the, the large site that I'm on we have, you know, a program that's unfolding and will be a lot more so in the spring, where, you know, there's self development work happening with ecological restoration with natural building, work with you know, all these different things. And, you know, creativity work as well and then kind The whole premise there is that ecological restoration is self restoration when done attentively. And, you know, ecological development is self development when done attentively. And I think
reading the chat, write that down. It's not
it's not unique, you know,
there's no, I just want, I just want to, I just want to memorize it. So true. And,
and I think there's a lot of people kind of hungry for that probe with that kind of program, and including, you know, lots of programs that are starting up and starting to burgeon. And you know, like, yep, I think there needs to be lots of versions of that all over. And I think you guys are the professionals, and are the experts in translating this type of self development into the languaging necessary to meet a wide variety of people, some of the people that need it the most, and I think that can't be valued highly enough. And I think that that's really your greatest asset as as individuals and as a team. And so that capacity, finding a way that that's met with anything near what it's worth is challenging, and I see that like to help with that challenge, if I can. Thanks, Tim.
So what I am already thinking, Okay, what can I have here?
Any last thoughts, Mary? Oh,
I have a meeting at the top of the hour. No, I think it's a good thing. What's happening? And definitely, there's a need, and I think vacuum will create more possibilities. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Awesome. For the moment, are we going to continue the weekly calls?
We're going to shift to monthly calls very soon. reason I haven't decided but it could be any day, we're going to shift that buddyboss over to discord and streamline the curriculum and shift calls to monthly rhythms all imminently probably this month. Yeah, maybe we won't finish all the production this month. But we will probably start all of those things this month.
We might, if you work on module three, and I'm on modules four and set to seven. Yeah, we might get it done.
Yeah, well, I've got the rest of Module Two to do as well. But the good thing is, it's all written. That's the hard part. So now it's just streamlining it.
Yeah. Yeah. Cuz it's a lot. It's a lot. And that is a concern for us that it's just too much detail like this. pare it down bare essentials. We can always add detail back in later. Yeah, yeah.
Especially if it's just written. Yeah, I'd recommend at least giving it a few weeks to settle in for everybody the transitions, I think, gonna be a little bit tough. I know for me, right. In, and I was probably prepared for it a lot better than most. Right. But yeah, I think pairing it with releasing of content, I think is key for it to feel not abandoning. Yeah, right.
Yeah. And I have considered what would it be like to have community calls happening weekly, but run by the students? And the only reason I haven't done that is because, you know, we have a very small group of committed individuals, and not quite enough where I feel that it could be carried sufficiently well, just by the community without us being there holding space that, but I'm, it would be great if the students were, it's just because it's not a cohort. I wasn't really expecting it to work. You know, you're not you're not really but maybe once we've released everything, there is a kind of natural cohort at that point.
Um, you're on mute.
You're on mute Sue.
And that was our we are a natural cohort.
Yeah. Yeah. So that might be the time to say, look, here's what we need to try and do for each other. We can't, we can't build this community ourselves just differently. We need you guys to step forward and help us to create the space where we can have these kinds of conversations that you know Are intimate and deep and consistently have really, really classy, you know?
Yeah. And I think, you know, just sharing out some process points that people can refer to and facilitate one or two conversations where you're saying, I'm not leaving this conversation, but I'm gonna witness you all lead this conversation. Yeah. Reflect on it at the end. Yeah, with the group that's been showing up. That won't be too much of a challenge. Yeah. There's a lot of experienced facilitators. Yeah. Showing up? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
It's one thing to facilitate a group that when it's another thing to know what you're talking about.
That's very true.
I'm good at the farmer, but not very good at the topic goes,
well, thank goodness, you don't actually have to present anything if you just facilitated, you know, kind of like knowing how to work. Yeah.
I mean, I can get Jim and I can at least two of us can can
wait to know how to do breakout rooms and get people talking together. And anyway, but it's a good thought to think about just staging a little more in terms of like a cohort. Once we release all this. People are moving through it in a cohort and let's just say look, just work together. Let's work together.
Yeah. Beautiful. Oh, jumped to the next thing. Yes, right, man.