and welcome to the Business of Architecture. I am your host, Ryan Willard, and today I have the great pleasure of welcoming Jeff Krieger to the show. So Jeff has been a boa for a number of years. He's been involved in some of our smart practice programs, and he has a very impressive career spanning nearly four decades. Jeff has mastered every facet of the architectural process, from concept design to detailing project management and construction oversight. His portfolio boasts an array of award winning commercial, residential and institutional projects, both in the United States and internationally. In 1997 Jeff established Krieger and associate architects, following formative years at renowned practices such as venturi Scott Brown and Associates in Philadelphia, a registered architect since 1985 Jeff has also devoted over 35 years to shaping the next generation of architects as a design studio tutor at Drexel University, alongside his active involvement in the governments of numerous charitable organizations, as a native of Pittsburgh, Jeff drew early inspiration from the powerful forms and structures of the city's iconic steel mills, an influence that has left a lasting imprint on his approach to design. Today we delve into Jeff's extraordinary career, the lessons he's learned along the way, and the reflections of nearly 40 years at the helm of architectural practice, and most specifically in this episode, we actually talk about Jeff's venture into development, what happened becoming an architect developer. We look at the debt stack that he used. We talk about the financing. We talk about the acquisition of the plot, how he found the land. We look at all the challenges that he faced, and we look at the the end numbers and the very valuable lessons learned from doing such a project, both as the architect and both wearing the developer hat. So this is a really important episode, I think, for anybody who is looking at embarking on the adventure of being architect, developer, Jeff is very candid here about the challenges that he faced, the challenges that he would meet in a different way, and some of the mistakes that he made and would do differently next Time. So really, valuable podcast here. So sit back, relax and enjoy. Jeff Krieger, now a message from our sponsor, Why settle for switching between multiple design programs to complete a single project with Vectorworks architect? You don't have to simplify your workflow with a hybrid 2d and 3d modeling environment made to support your work, from the pre design phase all the way through to construction documentation in a single platform. Learn more about the tool that can help you accomplish everything you need with the free seven day trial of vector works. Architect, get started here@vectorworks.net forward slash, Business of Architecture. It's time to announce this month's 200 304 100 club. If you missed our episode on the 200 club, listen to boa Episode 485 to learn more about this new initiative for benchmarking small firm performance. So a big congratulations to our 200 club members. We've got Marina, Rubina, Ramiro, Torres, Julia Aria, Philip Liang and Sean Kaki, Christopher Rawlings, Jorge, catran, Denise, Bucha and Yos bende yogis, Mistry Andre nemechech, Ina buella, Brad Smith, Brad Hubble and Susan Daly, Georgia, giras, Chris Driscoll and Judy and Larry April in our amazing 300 club, we have Mark Elster and Christopher Brandon. And our 400 club members are Drew and Justine Tyndall. So keep up the great work to everybody in the two 304 100 clubs, and we'll be back next month. We are looking for architect developer stories for the Business of Architecture podcast. So are you an architect developer with valuable insights to share? We're always on the lookout for passionate voices in the industry to join us on the Business of Architecture podcast, if you're ready to share your journey lessons, strategies with our global audience. We'd love to hear from you reach out to us to explore being a guest on our show and help inspire other architect developers on their path. We'd be interested in hearing your story, whether you're at the very beginning of your development story, or whether you have. 100 Million Dollar Portfolio of projects already in the bag, completed. We'd like to hear from you if you're working with the developers, or that you've developed a number of small houses, or you're working at a larger scale. Jeff, Welcome to the Business of Architecture. How are you? I'm