Yeah, thank you. I mean, I've been a conservationist working in the tropical America for almost 30 years now, and I think in some ways, without a sense of optimism, it's even hard to just move forward. But I also believe that that, that I that this info, as you say, this informed optimism, is really quite real. You know, one of the things that drew me to the to the oceans, that's widely commented on by lots of authors, is that the oceans are incredibly resilient. And to draw the CO I work in rain forest a lot, but to draw the comparison to rain forest, you know, the biggest problem for rainforest is deforestation, right? So you cut the forest down, and basically, as soon as you cut it down and turn it into, you know, cattle pasture or banana plantations or whatever you're making, then all the toucans, all the Jaguars, all of the giant armadillos, all the monkeys, they all disappear, absolutely gone from that location. But in the ocean, it's extremely difficult to kind of exterminate the last individual, even if you're catching really high price bluefin tuna. I mean, some of these sell for more than a million dollars of fish to catch the very last one is eventually just becomes economically impossible. And the equivalent, say, of deforestation is like trawling, where they take these big nets that are dragged on the sea floor. It's excellent for catching fish that hang out near the sea floor, like cod, but it also does a tremendous amount of damage to the floor. It breaks up all the rocks, the hiding places, the nesting grounds and things like that. That said, if you leave that ocean floor for a relatively short period of time, we're talking about years or 10s of years, it recuperates really quickly. And by comparison, the rainforest, you have to wait, poof a couple 100 years before you get back to where you're going to have jaguars and monkeys and stuff like that. So so in that sense, there's an optimism for me that says, As long as we can establish some places where we're not exerting a lot of continuous damage into the oceans, they have shown repeatedly, the ability to recover. You know quite well, and and we have been doing that, we've been declaring marine protected areas. There's more than 11,000 Marine Protected Areas declared as people become more aware of the necessity of protecting the ocean that covers more than 100,000 square miles of protected area growing every year. So So resiliency is, I think the first, you know, big part, the second big part has to do really with fisheries. And I think when people think about the oceans and think about the problems you know that we're seeing there, it's because of, you know, this understanding of declining fish populations and and so I tried to make it apparent in my in the book that, you know, that people that fish are, that's a, really, it's a it's a great job. These are people that are really, it's a noble profession that goes back, you know, several 1000 years. I interview a fishing boat captain, Megan Corazza from from Alaska, and talk about her experiences. And, you know, I think it's worth remind remembering that, that there are real people out there, running real boats, having real jobs and putting themselves at risk. I mean, that's one of the most dangerous professions on planet Earth, and yet to feed, you know, a lot of people. And like I said, there's something like 200 billion pounds of seafood that have been produced, you know, for the last bunch of years now, are we at the maximum? Yes, and are some places over fished? Yes. But I think it's also pretty clear that the solutions are really, you know, within our grasp. And I write a lot about solutions that various people have suggested, the implementation of those solutions has already made things considerably better. I mean, the fish stocks have rebounded from the 1970s where only about 10% of fisheries in the 1970s were sustainable stocks, but that number is about 65% now, and something like 80% of all seafood landings by mass I think it is come from stable stocks. So this is not to say that everything is great, but that we have been making progress. The real low point was in the 1970s and we've been making progress. And I think the fact that the oceans are resilient, that people are becoming more aware of the oceans, and that the solutions are really right out there, they're not that complicated, means that, you know, with the application of will and public pressure, we can really get to a place where the oceans are providing jobs, providing food and still sustaining healthy fish populations.