Yeah, I mean, I remember that moment too. And it is about creating the safe place because it could have been a completely transactional moment. And this is what I would say, as you're prepping for an interview. Do not let it be transactional. You know, you have this human soul that is giving you their time and has agreed to share their story. Like what a gift. And so we really try to stay in that sacred space to create that moment. But in that, you know, have really great credit questions ready, because it's really easy also to fall in the trap of the transactional questions. And you know, we have not interviewed a ton of celebrities at this point or people that you know, are worldwide famous. But I do think it's really subversive, whenever you can come in, and they get taken aback when you ask something that's not just the expected, you know, I think people get used to, and they didn't even think about their apply of like, the basic questions that you could throw at somebody. But for us, one of ours moments that I see it happen is take us back to a moment in philanthropy in your life that really has stuck with you. How many times is that asked you on the street? You know, you think we get tired of asking that question, but even this last week In recording, someone's like, I've never thought about that before. And they go back in the recesses in this safe place to bring us back to a moment when they're a child. And they had this formative moment. And it's like, I have chills thinking about that. Because if you create the space, and you give a question that's going to take somebody off of just like the autopilot answer that we all know how to say, what do you do for a living or something like that? Which we're not even good at answering that question. Let's be clear. But you know, I'm saying like asking that allows somebody and gives them the space and the time and they don't feel rushed to go back and really be thoughtful and think about it. And, you know, you started by talking about the values, if you can see the through line to the values that connected you on the front end, and then you start to see it in their story, it allows you to go even deeper. And that's, I think it's rewarding for both the person being interviewed, and you as the interviewer. Because you find that commonality that's way below the surface, that you're like, Oh, I've seen I mean, of course, you're centering dignity, because you experienced that at such a young age in this experience. And I just think that's when magic happens. And that's when you kind of fall out of we're doing an interview, and you're like, we're just having this really deep, wonderful conversation where both sides feel seen. And I think, you know, we have that superpower, as nonprofits as impact organizations that are listening today, you can ask those questions, philanthropy lives in that really special place that's at that vortex of something that can be deeply personal, deeply meaningful, and most likely, really aligned with the values that they want to show up in in the world. And it's like, don't leave that off the table, you know, by just asking, what do you do for work, or something like that?