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This is playing around with Paige Renee.
Everyone is paying here back for another episode of playing around and I have I say this all the time. But this is a very special guest. And I have to say that because she's blood in she's my sister. So I am in Colorado visiting my sister. And she's going to join us I think like Siri a little nervous.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm really nervous. Last night, I was like, Josh, I feel my Josh was my husband. I was like, I feel kind of weird. Just like I think you're nervous about the podcast.
Now you know how I feel every day before I have to do this podcast nerve racking because you don't want to do the wrong thing. And you know, like people are listening to it.
I know. It's my biggest audience ever. I've done you know, like little panels and all that stuff. But I've never spoken to this many people. So yeah, well nervous. Well, I'm
a little sleep deprived because Lexi has a one year old. And I've quickly found out that I am not a baby person.
Yeah, well, you've also gotten the short end of the stick because your room is right next to her room and she's getting a molar. So if anybody has kids, you know how horrible is with the molars especially so she's been a little more grumpy than normal. And I'm sure you're tired of me being like she's not normally like this, but it's been a little more whiny and teary than normal.
But I'm still just not a baby. I have never been a baby person. Every time I see babies. I'm never like, I want to pick it up. I want to hold it. They're so cute. I'm like, they're disgusting. They're loud. But I know what you're thinking everyone. Paige is a horrible human. Like, how could you not like a baby? It's a baby babies are cute, but I figured it out after some self reflection. And it's not babies. I dislike its parents with babies. And I get it parents talking about their babies dies. What bothers me the most
I get it, I get it. And I've actually said anybody ever hears me in public talking extra loud. Like, Oh, you're so cute. Look at how I hate that. It's so annoying. Or when you're in a restaurant and the baby's peeking over the booth at you. It's like, okay, I love babies. I am a baby person. I'm like, I don't want to see this baby face while I'm eating my steak.
Can you just turn around and I think it's the way that people talk about their babies, too. You know, how many babies are in the 99th percentile? Well, if you listen to parents, literally every single baby, they're like everybody, the 90th percentile and hope and it's smart. And this month, you should be knowing you know this many words. But, you know, they're this many months and they know this many words. My baby's so smart. And it's
always how many months they like this baby is 327 months old. You're like, I don't know what that means.
Your baby's four. Okay, it's not a baby anymore. Just please speak normally. Because that like weird when you do, like have a baby and your life then revolves around this like little thing?
Yeah, it's actually a little crazy. I like I said, I am a baby person. I've always wanted kids. I love babies. But all of a sudden, so you're in the hospital, you have a baby, and then they're just like Sia. And then you take this thing home and you're like, What do I do? And the first couple months are just crying every two hours. You'd have to feed them you have to figure out what to do and then you figure it out and then they change And then something's different. And like you said, they, you know, they spit everywhere and they have little boogers. And you're all of a sudden talking about, like, nuggets that are coming out and like, Oh, great. Her poop was solid today.
I think the way like babies like sneeze like I know it's a beat, you know, doesn't know better why it's like jail doesn't know any better. And it just bothers me. I just can't get over how gross babies are.
Delilah will do this thing where she'll eat. And then if she realizes halfway through eating, she doesn't like what she's eating. She'll just spit the food back out. So she's let that in this huge food chunk will just kind of drop onto her plate. No,
no, I'm not a baby person. I can't do babies. Maybe one day when I have my own. I wish everyone
could have just seen Paige's face as he was describing the food coming back out. It was? No, no, it was it was a face of just torture of just even imagining the sight of that
old food plus, like baby mouth noises if you think about pages that she hates chewing and mouth noises and there's a lot of that and there's a lot of me also doing that back to the baby to try and get the baby to chew. So it's not really a great combo.
No, it like hasn't been great. I mean, it's funny. So obviously I love her but she really liked me back so I think we're a mutual understanding that you know, she does her thing I do my thing will kind of head nod as we pass and that's it. You have
a moment this morning though. You had you had a little moment playing with the bottles on the floor. I sensed a little you know, connection sort of like an E tea almost like her through the bottle nipple as you're coming together. I am there there's a spark I'm seeing it maybe evolving.
I need to know how prepared was your husband and being a dad like I feel like us females except for Paige have maternal instincts? Did your husband like I'm gonna help with feedings? Like has he changed a diaper? Or is he like going golfing? So?
Yeah, so he has a lot of nieces and nephews. He has four older sisters. They all have two kids. So he's grown up around a lot of babies. However, I will say somehow he got through having what he has eight now. Eight nieces nephews are our nieces and nephews. He has not changed a single one of their diverse. I don't know how he's done it. But I don't know. I mean, I think once we brought this baby home, something kind of changed him a little bit. And he was so ready. But I do think he maybe thought he would have a little more free time than he did before because he got four weeks off of maternity leave, which was amazing. So he was home to help the whole time. But yeah, it wasn't like he was out scheduling tee times and able to go hang out was like, Oh, I'm sitting like in the closet weeping over like, not being able to like feed this baby and like my, your hormones are going crazy. And he's just kind of like, are you okay, like patting me on the head? It's okay. Like it's fine to do. He was great. But yeah, I don't know. I'd be interested to hear how other guys handle it. I do think when it's your own baby. It's different even if you don't like babies, but it is a huge life change.
Yeah, like I don't feel like any guys actually ever prepared to be a dad. It just, you know, they hold it. And then they're like, oh, okay, yes.
Yeah, absolutely. It just kind of you look into that baby's eyes. And it's like, okay, I know what's happening in the world. Now. It's kind of a little
weird. I just don't feel it. Probably three or four days. And all we've done is baby talk. So let's move on. Because we got a lot to cover here. So Lexi's, four and a half years older than me. And we're very different. I would say very, very differently. Yeah. We've had have both kind of had a very unconventional childhood. And just growing up life. Yours was more normal than mine was yes. But mine was more weird because of Yeah, so you it was weird. So the way it was set up when we were growing up is when I switched from gymnastics into golf. I moved to Arizona with my mom and Lexie stayed in Colorado with my dad and my parents aren't separated. So we would spend half the year basically away from each other, but you didn't want to move because you were still in I was in
high school. So I was doing track and field really competitively. Plus I played volleyball and basketball. And when you're in high school, you have your own friends. And you just I was not about to move to Arizona. Yeah, so it was a little weird when we started doing that, because people would say, oh, so your parents are divorced, separated? And we're like, no, they're just out there sometimes. And then he or sometimes so it was a little bit odd to explain.
Yeah. And you are more on the academic side. He went to Stanford and then to track there and then also crew for two years.
Yeah, which was horrible. I did track I was on a track and field scholarship. In high school. I was mostly hurdles and high jump high jump was kind of my thing. And then when I was recruited that coach left and went to cow of all places Is the rival school and the new coach was like, oh, you should be a heptathlete and I hate running. I mean, I hate it with the passion and sprinting great running horrible anything over 200 meters. And I was like, you know, I probably would be better. To his credit, I was a lot better at the heptathlon. He was right. But I did that for a year and just I absolutely hated it. And for me, having to run and train for an 800 and then be at double the meats and doing all that just wasn't worth it. And Paige, you've talked about this before, having a coach that you really love in college is so important. Yeah. And I just didn't vibe with my coach quite as well as I would have liked to teammates were great. But the coach just he would make us if anybody has done running or training round up a concrete Hill in a weighted vest, which is horrible for shin splints. So we would all just be so miserable. We are in the trainers all the time. So then I decided I can't do this anymore. I am like Paige said, definitely the nerdy one. I love academics. That's why I wanted to go to Stanford, you get the best of both worlds. But I quit. And then when you quit as an athlete, you've been an athlete your whole life. It's an identity crisis. And so I thought, Okay, well, I'll walk onto the crew team, which was the worst idea because crew does more running than any other sport. They would be like, Okay, we're gonna run for 40 minutes bike for 40 minutes and IRQ for 40 minutes. I was like, no. So I ended up quitting right before I put before the end of the season, and they actually won the national championship. So that was kind of a regret of mine. Like that ring. But in the end, I was really happy I did I again, I'm the nerdy one and got to take the classes I wanted to take i Alright, I went to China to study abroad. So it ended up working out for me. Well, it's
funny, because when we were growing up as kids, I was always the more introverted, very shy, weird. I mean, so Mom and Dad always worried about me, and you were very independent and outgoing. And you had you're doing theater and everything was you pretty much everything going for you. And I don't think mom or dad ever worried about you?
Yeah, no, I don't think so. Yeah, I mean, we were both weird and our own special. Like, you were super weird, but I think a lot of I think a lot of it was because you had you were really shy. And you had this really bad separation anxiety when you were a baby. And I think because we are almost five years apart. I remember a lot of stuff about you as a baby, you just don't remember it all, probably. But I was also really protective. I mean, you would cry every time we would go to birthday parties. And I would always go with you and be like, it's okay. It's all right. But yeah, you were definitely the one that I think Mom and Dad would probably have seen as being like, I don't know. What would you have been somebody where you don't have to talk to anybody, like a programmer, like a computer programmer or something where you just sit behind a computer? Don't talk to anybody?
No, because when I was going through college, you gave me a lot of tough love. And mom and dad were like, You need to get your shit together. You have nothing going for you. You're not going to your golf isn't panning out the way that we saw. What are you going to do? And you were even like, literally, what are you going to do? Yeah, like no one thought that I had any career path for me? Well, I
think it kind of goes back to what I said earlier about when you're an athlete. That's all you do. And I think you had just been thinking, because you had such a phenomenal Junior career. I mean, why life was weird because of you because you were so good. We moved by switch to the middle of middle school to go down to monuments you could train at that really awesome gymnastics gym. And then we did the split thing from there with the gymnastics. So literally, your whole life was like I'm going to either be an Olympian for gymnastics, or I'm going to be a golfer. And then in college, I mean, that's a really hard transition for people. If anybody has ever been a college athlete, I mean, it's really really hard and especially for you where you have been homeschooled and then with our mom the entire time bouncer just like crazy party school. It's I mean, it's a lot and I think that identity crisis of like, oh shoot, like, I don't like playing competitive golf. Like maybe this isn't for me, instead of being like what am I going to find you kind of shut down a little bit because you were just by yourself and it was hard so
I'm sure all my friends thought I was gonna be a stripper. Like that was the career path I was going
I mean I think it'd be a phenomenal stripper I would have supported you I would have been your business manager appears stripping enterprise and now with only fans. I mean, like we could be making bank Oh, maybe I made the wrong decision here. I should have pushed you into like doing more of your I know.
But I would say I mean we've had a pretty good relationship I would say probably we did not get along well at all when I was when kind of like when you were in high school and then that period until you were done with college and then I was done yeah college but during that time we didn't talk no didn't have any kind of relationship whatsoever. I think it was because I don't know if I blame mom and dad for this but we were very competitive with each other. And I think it was always like who was getting more attention from I'm the other parents. And I'm sure you felt that way because my parents invested or my parents. Our parents invested a lot of time into my gymnastics and then into golf because I mean, Dad always wanted to have a professional golfer as a daughter. Yeah.
If you tried to get me to do Golf I took I don't think you probably even remember, but I took lessons with some pretty big name pros. And I was just like, oh, my gosh, I'm way to add to be able to do this. I mean, that's why I went to the heptathlon sounds like I can do this event, this event and this event. But yeah, I do think it was part of that. And I also don't I also think that what made it worse was that we well, at least for me, I didn't realize I was being competitive with you. I just kind of felt it. And then I would sort of deny that I was being competitive. And I do think the age gap was hard. And I would like you know if and when we have another to have it closer, because like you said, it was really weird when you were younger you no and I was in middle school, and I was going through a really tough middle school period. You were just a kid. You were an elementary schooler and then in high school, you started doing all of your travel for golf. And so we literally did not see each other. I mean, we probably saw each other for like two months out of the year for eight years. Yeah. And then you were in I was in college, so I was gone. And then you are in college. But I do think that college you being in college was good for our relationship, because then you did call me with some of the more tough stuff and Well, I definitely
couldn't go to mom about it. She she went to college, she was like, if you drink alcohol, you will die. You xx you will die. Like Like, drunk. What do I do? Hey, it
worked for me. I was so paranoid. I was like the best kid in high school. So yeah, but uh, yeah, it was interesting. And then I think once all of this stuff started happening for you, and you just kind of started getting these crazy followers. I remember you won, which tournament was it? Well, it was the Colorado. Last play. You won the Colorado match play beat the world ranked number one world ranked amateur if I remember right, and then it was a big deal. So there's a bunch of articles and then all of the followers started happening. And we were like, oh, cool, like people like they just golf. And like Little did we know, it was a completely different thing. Yeah. But I remember, you know, kind of that was the start of, okay, let's how do we work together and I was working somewhere else at the time. And for a couple years was trying to do both, and then finally realized, okay, this is a big time thing that I can't work two jobs. But it's actually brought us closer together, which I don't think happens to most people
know, we work really well together because we are so different. And our skill sets are so different. And so for people who don't know, Lexi is part of my team, she works with me, we pretty much communicate every single day about business and I don't what was your it would be like your official title, you would say? So I usually explain
it as sort of the CEO of team page. I'm kind of business manager, but I make sure this ship stays afloat. So I know we always talk about team page. But it really is a pretty big business. I mean, pages a media company. And I don't think a lot of people realize that. So we have me that's kind of bridging the gap between pages, creative vision, and then our team at her agency, octagon, we have her agent there, her manager, and then a couple other people that we work with regularly, a creative person who helps with some of our production. And then they usually also have a trainee who will help with scheduling and itineraries and all of that. So with pages travel schedule, and all the content she has to create. I am sort of the intermediary making sure everything works together. And again, the ship is is staying afloat, and everybody's doing what they need to do. So. My role is really most like a CEO. But it's always kind of hard to explain, because no one's ever done this in golf. And so we've kind of been making it up as we've been going along. We have failed.
Yeah, there are times. Yeah, it was it was rough. So when I first started this, obviously, I had no idea what I was doing. And I say this all the time where I never sought this out. I never wanted to be famous or social media influencer or have followers. I feel like that's what a lot of people strive, they want to be famous, they want to have a lot of followers and I never did. So I think it was a really tough transition for me in the very beginning. And again, we didn't know any better. We didn't know anything. And so I had a pretty interesting agent at first and it was good and bad because I think you had to become a really important role really important person in my career because out of necessity, yeah, because we didn't have anyone else that we could rely on. And there were so many times we tournaments that you actually came with me and I and I mean, I my parents didn't want to travel. Yeah, I keep saying my parents. They didn't want to they didn't really want They have that much involvement in my career because they didn't really understand social media, they don't get it at all,
ya know, I mean, it really was out of necessity. And I did have a little bit of a leg up. Because at Stanford, I did study social media. And while it wasn't a vocational degree, like I didn't learn how to make a marketing plan, I was in Silicon Valley, when all of you know, Facebook, Instagram, all of those things were blowing up. And so I was studying how people are interacting with these. So I kind of knew what I was doing. I wasn't just like, you know, I'm an accountant. And now I'm going to do this. But I knew nothing about golf. I mean, I'd been on the golf course. But in terms of professional level golf, I get I still get nervous. I've been on so many golf courses when I have to go and get range balls, and pageboys. How am I driving the golf cart page? Oh, gosh, it's not great. She makes fun. I like I guess I hold the wheel like a grandma. And I never know where I'm going. And Paige usually ends up driving the cart, which is probably not something she should be doing on some of these things. So yeah, it's uh, but it was cool, because we, I love entrepreneurship. And I started right out of college. You know, running my own business, my husband and I've worked at a lot of startups. So it's been really fun to work hand in hand with you kind of creating your brand and your business and making your vision come together. But in the beginning, it was rough. And I the agent you mentioned, he had he was mostly in kind of like the extreme sports realm. And that was awesome because no traditional golf agent got what we were trying to do at that time, we could not find anybody and they they just didn't understand the media plus playing and
they said you either had to play golf full time and that was your job. Or you had to be on the media side. Yeah, never bridge that gap.
Yeah. And you had to do want to do that no, and you had to do broadcast and you had to be we had a lot of people say well, you need to act and do you know all of these things that page didn't want to do so he and he signed some big deals right off the bat that I mean miracle I don't know how he got some of those but it helped to sustain you for the first couple years big long term deals that were you know, you were able to work out some of the kinks but yeah, I mean, like that first year in Dubai was honestly I it was equally traumatic for both of us. It is I I legitimately think I have PTSD. I I kind of like go see somebody because I had nightmares. Yeah, and I would I would just like wake up being like I'm panicked about it. Yeah, it was it was traumatic for a lot of reasons
we remind me what was Dubai again? Was that this the nude leaked? No, so we'll get into that and
here's about that. That was a fun adventure
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so for Dubai was my first big professional tournament, it was a European Ladies European Tour event. And I neither of us thought that it was going to be a big deal. I accepted the sponsor invite because we're like who's going to be watching this European Tour event and Dubai, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. And so we get there and it turned into this circus. Yeah, it was a circus. It blew up. It was the number one sports story in the world. I made front page news. And it was a huge controversy because people said that I only got the sponsor invite based on my appearance and that I didn't deserve it. And so then it I was really nervous. We were there for a while before the first round but it was building and building and building and I think that the press was getting more intense. And I had to do full press days before playing practice rounds. I mean press was first before and clan creation and content creation and so I was spread pretty thin. I was obviously getting no sleep because of the time change. Also with nerves and so before the first round, I literally locked myself in the bathroom and tried to kill myself. And yeah, we had to Lexi like was banging on the door. We got me out. I we had to it was my birthday. Like his birthday. We had to call it like call a therapist. Yeah.
And it was really it was awful. We and I think what makes it worse. I seriously I think about this dinner all the time. And I do we're laughing about it. But it was it was honestly super traumatic. We had they had us put up in this amazing hotel. And I will say the organizers at the tournament did not do this page on purpose. I think it worked out great. And it launched her career. But they were really amazing and so supportive. They did not know that this was going to turn out this way. But they had arranged this huge birthday dinner. It was incredible. We had this beautiful suite, they sent out like four chefs, they had like plates of sushi and there was a pasta bar and and it was amazing. And so we're sitting there eating and Paige's super nervous and she doesn't, you know, have a huge appetite when she's nervous. So I'm like trying to get her like you got to eat for tomorrow. And then there's this new story where some you know, kind of, I wouldn't say idols of yours. But some big golfers that you had looked up to your whole career, said some kind of negative things. And I think that took it over the edge. So Paige left and I'm at this dinner by myself with like these four chefs, like with all this food, and I'm like way too polite and nice. So I'm like stuffing myself with sushi trying to like be really nice. That was like really awesome dinner. So then they all leave. And I noticed pages been pretty quiet for a while. And we've never actually talked about this. But it was super like I'm probably going to tear up talking about it. But it was really it was traumatic. And I remember so I'm knocking on her door. She's not answering saying Paige. Paige. Paige, you had a balcony. I walked out to the balcony, and, you know, knocking on her door and I thought I have to look over this balcony to see if she's jumped over the boat.
You know, it was bad. But I think it was just I had a complete mental breakdown. It was a complete mental. I couldn't I couldn't handle the stress. I couldn't handle the pressure. And I don't think anyone in my position could have handled that. I mean, they probably could have handled it better, clearly. But it was it was a lot because I didn't have a lot of people who have that that much of a spotlight on them have had that for almost their entire life either their Fein arms or they're kind of bred to become this champion. I was forced into this I was thrown into it. And I had no tools to be able to handle that kind of stress and pressure and I don't think anyone realizes how difficult it is when you are the center of a huge global controversy and all I mean it to me it seems like that but to other people was probably just a passing story and they would leave a mean comment and that was that But to me, it was my whole life. I was so nervous and so scared. So you slept in the room with me.
And we called she had just started working. And this is I mean, she, she had worked with some sports psychologists, but we finally got this one sports psychologist, and, you know, we FaceTimed him from Dubai. And, you know, we're trying to figure out, you know, what do we do? And, you know, I, I tried to take care pays, I had to ask, like, have you hurt yourself? Did you ingest anything? And so I know, I said, What do I What do I do? And so he, and I actually think my training as an RA at Stanford really helped, because we did have training on, you know, kind of, you know, suicide prevention and mental health issues and all of that. So, I felt decently equipped, but I stayed up in the room all night, I was jet lagged. I was so tired. I didn't. I didn't sleep the entire night, I went through your phone to make like, in case you had texted people to let them know that you're okay. And make sure you slept. And I remember you being like, Oh, you can leave? And I was like, Nope, I'm not leaving. And it was like a seven o'clock tea. You had an early tea time? And yeah, it was it was really rough. And I think people don't realize, like you said, what that kind of social media scrutiny. And, you know, internet pressure does to people. And I think this is why a lot of celebrities and influencers, see, see therapist and get help. Because when you're being bombarded all the time, it's really difficult. Not at all saying that you didn't sign up for it? Well, you didn't sign up for it. But now you know, and you've been able to kind of get your tools like your mental tools to help and it's, you know, been obviously much better since that. But it's really, it's really challenging. I don't think people realize that. And they think, Oh, if you're a public figure, it's my right to be able to braid you and say whatever I want, and blah, blah, blah. And that's true, everybody's allowed to have your their own opinion. But maybe consider the way that you're voicing those opinions online. Because it really does affect people. And it was traumatic, and I get anxiety when I think about it a lot. And it's gotten better over the years. But it was really, if you've ever had a loved one be in a position like that. It's really, really tough. And then the next day, not knowing what was going to happen, but I will say you recovered. So well. I mean, not your first tee shot
that drives so bad. But after that, I mean for you
to even shoot what you shot with the pressure and just you say all the time, you know, I'm shy and introverted. It's not a story. I mean, seriously, I don't know how many birthday parties I went with you to that you just you know, cried and you were by yourself hanging on the monkey bars. So it's
a literally had no friends. Like, I think when I tell these stories of my childhood, people don't believe me, because they seem so far fetched. But you mean, you saw it firsthand? Like I would literally like lay under the table when people would come into our house? Like, I would not look at anyone even family members. No one I did. Yeah.
And you have bad social anxiety. Yeah, and you have the hair condition. And then that was made worse by you would get so anxious, you would bawl your hair up into little balls and then pull your hair out and then you'd stick there. Which sounds funny. We had this coffee table. There were these like drill holes, you know, for the screws, and you would stick to here.
I was like a dog, like hibernate under this like you.
Which again, we're laughing about it now because we've been able to get through it. But it's like, you know, it's these are real issues.
I think I've put everyone in our family. I like high stress levels, because I mean, I overdosed when I was like four.
Yeah, you did? Ye druggie. Yes,
I had. So I have asked my and so we went really scary. Yeah, but it's funny. Why is that your story about me? Like it's funny now, but like I almost died. So I have asthma. Um, so we would use inhalers and I realized that if I gave myself enough puffs, I would get a little high from that. And so I literally had a drug problem when I was I mean, like 678. And so I would literally get high off my inhaler and just sit there. And so one day I took too many puffs and my mama in the door and I'm just laying there peed myself. Yeah, conscious. So my parents had to take me to the hospital. Well that
my mom tried to hide everything up really high in the pantry, but she had figured out where it was and climbed up the shelves in the pantry. And yeah, and do you have kidding me? Yeah, it was it was probably sorry, Mom, if you're listening, you had to deal with some of this stuff. Because I would I mean, especially as a parent now, I don't know how I would have raised as our parents okay, we give we give mom and dad a lot of crap. But they were phenomenal parents, especially dealing with me like
I definitely had a lot of emotional issues. Yeah. And I still clearly do.
We talk to our parents also, daily. They actually just had a conversation about this. I will always text them still about home stuff like I am an adult home owner with a baby and I will text my mom. Mom. So what if I plant this tree here? Like, oh, my
gosh, just landed on our parents like we love our parents. But I put them through. Yeah. So much. And then obviously the Dubai shoe with you. And then the nude picture. Yeah, that was also really fun. And again, it was just us dealing with all of this. Yeah, no one was really helping us at this time. Because it was before I signed with my agents. Yep. Yeah. And
I remember you called me and we're like, hey, synth tears. Um, so there might be this picture of me. And I was just like, No, please, like, I could not deal with a nude photo scandal. And so I remember I was like, Okay, how many pictures? Is it? Are there videos? Like are the what's going on? You have to tell me what's going on? And? Yeah, it was. I mean, I think now looking back on it, it's like, okay, it's a tasteful picture. It was, you know, leaked, you know, by somebody you cared about, which is a really shitty thing to do. But a lot of other celebrities have gone through this. And it's becoming less of an issue, because there are so many jerks out there who do this kind of thing to people and people are realizing like, Oh, it's a boo, like, like, get over it. We all have bodies. But it was really traumatic. And, you know, I worked with a cyber security lawyer to try and scrub it off the internet. And he's like, there's no way we're going to be able to get this off the internet. It's everywhere. It's on the sites like, you know, celeb X, Y, and Z has tried to get it off these sites and you don't have enough millions of dollars to be able to get rid of it. And they had this. I've seen this picture so many times. Someone just emailed it to me,
I get it every oh my gosh, oh, he's like, Oh,
I've been used to talking with Paige. I know. It's Php, she sent me this picture. I'm like,
okay, guys use that picture against me still to this day. They're like, Oh, I heard you're dating so and so. And they have this picture to prove?
Ah, yeah. So it's funny. I was like, I would just see this nude of my sister daily, I'd have to go through this portal and like, click all the things to send cease and desist letters. And yeah, so I would have nightmares about the early on. Because we didn't know you were that you were going to have a career. And like you said, you didn't know what you wanted to do. So this was like, kind of like your only career path. Yeah. So I felt a lot of responsibility to keep your career afloat, and keep all the scandals at bay and to keep your mental health, you know, up and especially, you know, early on, we didn't have the support team that we do now. I mean, now you have multiple people, a team of lawyers. But yeah, it was I would wake up in the middle, nice, big picture. Check my phone and make sure it wasn't posted like somewhere crazy. And yeah, it's it's It was nuts. And then you had to call mom and dad.
That was though I, the third episode, when I talked all about this picture, if you guys want to go back and listen to it. That was the hardest part was telling mom and dad about the picture. Because I feel like our parents are definitely very liberal. And when we tell them anything, they are very comforting. But at the same time, they're completely terrifying. And I think like my biggest fear in life is disappointing mom and dad. Yeah, I never want especially Mom, mom is so scary. If mom just like looks at you in certain way, you know, you just failed. And that is the worst possible feeling ever. And so when I was telling them, I felt like they took it. So oh
my gosh, they Oh, well. And I think so. I mean, I feel like when we tell people our parents are scary. They think like, oh, they just like they're yelling at you. And the what makes them scary is it's the disappointed parent thing, where they give us all the freedom in the world. And if you break that freedom, like your life is over, like all of your permissions are gone until you prove that you can have them back. And so we've always they instilled a lot of personal responsibility and you know, all of that into us. We wanted to be the best we could be never pressured us never forced us to do things. They would encourage us to do things that were hard, but like when I quit track, I was really scared to quit because I was like, I'm gonna lose my scholarship. And they're like, are you happy doing this? I said, No, I'm so miserable. And they said quit at the same thing when you said I don't think I want to play professional golf. They said alright, play this. Would they say if they said play one more tournament, get through the end of this year. And if you don't like it, then quit and we'll figure it out. But it does make you want to do your best for them. And it's really scary. They I mean they we did have family meetings when we were younger where they would yell.
yell at you ever yell at me.
Keep your mouth shut. I can't keep my mouth shut.
It's funny how we literally switch. Yeah, because now I'm usually the one getting yelled at and you're the one that's like the golden child like you never get in trouble. They never you're the cash cow. I'm the golden child. each other well, I growing up, I never got in trouble. I think they just felt bad for me though. I don't
like this weird, pale, little scrawny child. You were really cute. That was a kid. So is it
weird seeing me do what I do. Now, knowing how I was when I was a kid.
It's not weird anymore. Because I've been able to see you grow into this amazing businesswoman with this incredible vision. But when you first started doing this, I was it was weird. And I think the weirdest part is how not even how you've stepped into your own as like a woman and a person. But, or like a business person, but as just like a woman, right? Like you are comfortable being sexy, and you are okay, voicing your opinions on the internet, which I'm scared of, like, I have a political side. And I won't say which and I'm afraid to put it out because I'm like, oh, people are gonna know who I'm voting for. And I try and stay away from politics, like I'm gonna get anxious even saying this like later. Because I just am I'm a I'm more of a people pleaser. And you've just really been like, No, this is who I am. I'm sexy, my body is shaped like this. And this is how I look. And this is who I am. And I think that's been the weirdest thing. Because you've always growing up in the person who would look to like, do the popular kids or you were always like the the tagalong, who would kind of mold to whatever crowd you were in. And now to see you leading the pack, I think has been the most surprising thing. But not anymore. At the beginning, I would say it was but since starting to work with you, over five years ago, it's been a long time, I know, I've been really impressed with the way you've come along. As as a business person, it's been really cool to see you. You know, the, the thing that I has really helped me is being able to say no to things. Whenever we're on calls, I'm always very impressed with the way that you handle partners when they want you to do something that doesn't align with your brand. And you're able to say politely and firmly, no, I'm not going to do that. And that doesn't align with my brand. And the amount of partnerships and money that you've turned down has also been very impressive. There's a long term strategy. And I don't think a lot of people realize this, it's not just, Oh, I'm just going to post sexy pictures and make as much money as I can, there is a long term strategy that we have 1020 years that we are working towards, there is a roadmap, it's an actual business that makes a lot of money, and you're marching along that road. And if something doesn't fit with that, then you're not going to do it, you could have made probably quadruple probably amount of money, if you would have taken a lot of stuff that's come your way. So that's that's helped me in my career before I quit to do this full time. And then to have, you know, my baby, being able to stand up for myself a little bit more, because I definitely was that person who would just say, Oh, I'll do that. And I'll do this thing. And that's fine. And then I would scramble to make it work. And that's not always the best.
Well, I felt like I actually I had to do that, especially being a woman in a male dominated industry where people do try to take advantage of you. And I think I'm at the point in my career where I know the value that I bring to partners. And I know my own personal value. And it's hard because a lot of people still since I am just page Rene on Instagram, they see me as just that. They don't realize that I'm a media company, as all the other Gulf media companies out there, and I am the top media company. And so it's it's hard because I do turn down a lot of things. But I know I have to because I want to be taken seriously with what I do.
Yeah, any company you work with has to be something that you love. It has to be something that you think your followers will love. And if it doesn't check the boxes, then it's it's not a thing. But I think you mentioned the other day on Instagram, you had said I am proud of being the most followed golfer golf, brand golf, anything on Instagram, and you had people coming back and saying no, you're not and you're like, look it up. It's fine. It's fine some people and compare the numbers, and it's hard to maintain. And the amount of people who come back and say your 15 minutes are up. It's like it's been a long, 15 minutes.
It's actually surprising that we have built what we have with no support. No expertise in this field. We were just doing what we wanted to do. And I think that actually worked really well for me because I worked With different brands or companies that weren't traditional golf companies, and so I was introduced to different groups of people. And I have always just kind of stuck to what I've wanted to do. But I like think back. And there's so many times where my career should have been over.
Oh, yeah, it could have been over. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. There's been a lot of deals that have not worked out the way that we wanted them to work out. And I mean, it still could not work out. And I think that's the hard thing is, we've come this far. And I think there's a certain level of stability now. But it's so fickle, you just don't know. And not only this type of company, but any company, especially with everything going on in the world right now. It's just really have to keep working and grinding every day. But it is really nice to at least know okay, I have some time that it's can be a little more stable, and I know what money type of money is coming in. But it's hard. You just don't know. And especially in this industry, when you are public facing as a personality. People twist your words all the time, like you could have some type of crazy scandal that you don't even know, you know, it wasn't your fault. And all of a sudden you so you just don't know, you don't know what's going to happen. But even if it ended tomorrow, you should be really proud of everything you've you've done.
We've built Yeah, it's cool that we've done this together. But I You have to fact check me while we're doing this podcast right now, because I've told some stories about mom, and you need to confirm. So first one does mom sleep on her back leg?
Yes, she does. She sleeps on her back like a vampire. When you come into her room. Her arms are crossed over her chest. She's laying there and then she sits up like a vampire. And she looks at you. Yes. It's terrifying. It Oh, she doesn't sleep machines. I don't know if she's sleeping. I don't think she I think her eyes are closed, but she's just like regenerating but she's not actually sleeping.
Have you ever seen mom cry? I've never seen mom cry. I've never seen her cry.
I've seen her eyes tear up once. And I think that's it. She says that she was really emotional when she dropped me off for college. But she held it together really?
Well. I know. She didn't show it to you.
Like, Oh, thank God the difficult ones here. But you know, she, she I think her. I think you've said this on the podcast. But she was a professional ballet dancer. And I think it was literally cigarette burned into her to not show emotion and to be really tough. And she's just held on to that for these past however many years. Yeah. Well, it's
funny because mom is the traditional guy in the household. Yeah, I mean, when we grew up, like mom was fixing everything in the house. She has her tool box. Yeah. And she would do everything. And she'd garden garden and she would discipline us and then our dad was cooking,
cleaning and he's weeping over like animal movie
is very sensitive. And so it's that was I think really funny for us. Scrub is probably why we are so I would say independence. Yes, for sure. They've always instilled in us to not rely on the man financially or for anything. Really.
Yeah, I think her biggest lessons that have helped us as people and as you know, career women, one always respect everybody. We would go to hotels and she would always treat everybody exactly the same no matter what they were doing. The you know, the bellboy and the cleaners and you know the waitstaff, everybody. I mean, she would just be so nice to everybody. And I think having traveled as much as we have and seeing the way some people treat these people is been kind of eye opening actually, for me. That has been really big loyalty has been another thing that's been, I think, ingrained in me from her. She's the most loyal person. And I think that's helped a lot in your career. If you're, you have a partner and you're signed with somebody I mean, you are just like all in for that person and her work ethic. Yeah. I think one thing that gives social media influencers a bad rap, is the partying and they get hired to go to events and they show up drunk or when they're there, they're taking drugs or what you know, whatever's happening when we go to things, it is a job. And we had been begged at events to go out to strip clubs. I wouldn't know like we would ask my clients like Oh, who in Vegas like to cut off to the strip club which is you know, if you can do that professionally, that's fine, but it's to young women. It's like you know, there are some lines that we don't cross we don't drink mostly unless I mean there are some circumstances I think that you know are you would worry I would never drink I would never drink cuz you don't really drink but for me as kind of like the networker person, you know if somebody's really important asks you to take a shot of 40 to take like, what do you do it? But we would never be drunk. And then we would never go in put ourselves in inappropriate positions, again, especially as young women remember what they were at that event in Vegas. And those two guys came up and thought we were hired, quote, unquote. And we were at this event and these two guys came up, and they're like, Hey, how are you ladies? My girl good and your pages there as you know, a celebrity. And he's like bragging about what he said, I have $400,000
backpack by Rob Ron flew around my private jet.
And we're like, okay, great. And I was like, very clear that they thought we were hired to be working that party and we were like, No. And then it's like, the gears start to turn, you started talking more about, you know, what you do. And he's like, Wait, who are they, I think got embarrassed and left pretty quickly after that. They went
to the next, other models.
But I think the work ethic thing has really helped because a lot of people don't behave like that. And you'll see them you know, too drunk and not showing up to things on time in the morning, and especially in golf, you have early mornings, you can't be out super late showing up, you know, looking really haggard after a night of partying. So
why I think that's one thing that has really helped my career is always been professional. I think when people see my online persona that they think I'm going to be this party girl, and they'll be flaky, but I've never been late for a job. I'm always turned 20 minutes early, don't
hook up with the client. You know, we have a lot of stories of people doing inappropriate thing. Like,
it's never happened. I don't drink at events like I know I'm there to work. And I'm always polite to everyone we write
thank you notes. I mean, that's huge.
I mean, you get invited back because you're pleasant to work with. And you're not. I mean, we've heard so many stories of people just being lost at different hotels, they can't find them they're going on they were passed out like it's insane what some people do at these events as like not not just they're there to either play music for them or like they're not just there to have fun like they're there to work so it's crazy. And then the last thing you need to fact check because no one believes this. Did we baby food?
Oh, we ate baby food. I ate baby food. I don't remember the last time I had it. I think maybe in college but through high school high school track meats, we would get my the thing we would do the most is the baby we call them baby meats. I don't know the actual term because that's what we call them. But they they look like little Vienna sausages and they come it's basically like ground up meat in like a like a hot dog like a skin of some sort. No, I'm describing it. Yes story,
you know,
yes. And it would be it packed in water. So it's like basically pre chewed meat with a skin and water which sounds super appetizing but our mom would always have us eat them because they were a great source of protein and they were shelf stable. So if you're out at you know a gymnastics meet or on the golf course or for me attract me I would just whip them out of my bag as I'm sitting waiting for high jump and you eat the little baby meats and you know you got to eat them you know I would bite the little ends off and then I fuck me i don't know
i would i would take the casing off and then eat the inside smush part and then eat the
case kitty casing was pretty good. I don't know what so
let's see Are you like throwing in like one extra baby food snack when you're like packing like a lunch for your daughter your like and I'll take one like fruit squeeze for me and when for my
daughter. I mean, you know, I'm not gonna lie. Some of the baby food now is still really good. They have these amazing little freeze dried, like fruit snacks sorted out and they have ones are with a yogurt and they kind of melt in your barrel are delicious. Yeah, though. I'm here. Disappointingly, I will say I tried to find baby meats the other day. And I didn't see them. There's probably something weird in them that they can probably. But yeah, we know. I will fact check you on that. And I would take the label off at track meets because I didn't want people knowing that I was eating these weird baby food.
I know. And not only that, but we had these protein shakes that she would give us that were brown, like tofu and then eat sugar for I mean,
I think we did absolutely no sugar for maybe like two or three years. Yeah. And I remember in middle it was when I was in middle school, and they would have done that Fridays. And I was like, No, I don't I wish I had that much willpower. Now what happened? I used to be so motivated.
I don't we're just as good mom.
Yeah, she would make those protein shakes. And she would put the silken tofu in and we were eating you know, shakes and having green juices with the beets. juices. And before that was actually a thing. We had a weird childhood. We did. It was. Yeah, it was. It was a lot. It was great though. It was great. We had a great childhood. I look back on it fondly. But we were I was weird. You were weird. But you also somehow got into like the popular girls clubs sometimes because you just follow them around, like do what they said. And I always wanted to be friends with the popular kids but I was I can pass for being cool sometimes and then you get to know me you're like Yeah she's a little off there says you're I was always with the popular group but you weren't like really fun. So you like now they didn't like know that you were just there and they hung out with you. But they weren't. You weren't like friends now. Yeah, I don't know how that happened.
Still kind of like that. That is very
true. That he's like showing up to the center. You know? It's like the first of the first year in Dubai. Remember that? welcome party. Yeah. And we sat by it was really cold and windy. We're sitting by ourselves by the pool, and those guys are like, You guys look miserable. Are you okay? Is that happened to
all the events that we've go to? Because Lexi would come with me to all of the events that I had for the first I'd say
two or three years? Yeah. Yeah, probably every single event, every event, I was the one who traveled with her. Before we had this team of people who could travel as well. And I would go to everything. And I didn't know anything about golf. So we would show up and I wouldn't have money. What's that thing? That book called? I don't even see. I don't even know still yards. yards book. Yeah. And like, Oh, you want to buy the artist book? I was like, I don't have money. I like what? Where does she go? What does she do? So it was a huge learning?
Lesson. Lexi, you've been a good source on some good stories. We do have to go to break really soon. Well, I'm gonna ask you three rapid fire questions about getting to know, you know, our dear old page a little bit more. But what is the biggest fight you guys have ever been in?
There was one time in Arizona. We had a big family meeting where you basically said you hated me. And I don't remember what I was doing because I I was probably just being mean, somehow I've had passive aggressively mean sometimes.
So the thing about Lexi is that she's extremely smart. Very, very smart. She's also a she was a black belt in Taekwondo. She's taller than me. She's stronger than me. And so I never had any advantage over Lexi with anything. So I couldn't be mean to her because she would insult me back 10 times harder. And it'd be very smart, and it would hurt is witty. And then I couldn't I could never fight you because you would literally kill me. So I think I like just growing up. I I think I was also jealous of you. Because dad pretty much raised you. Yeah. And you had a lot more freedom than I had. And so I never had a normal life.
We grew up very differently. Very Do you weren't you were groomed for this basically, even though you didn't know
it. Yeah. And so I think I was always jealous of you for that. And I was thinking you kind of looked down on me because I didn't put as much effort into my grades, or I didn't really try all that hard. And I was jealous
of you because of how much attention mom and dad gave you because of your exceptional abilities and in sports. And I think like looking back on it. That's that was my problem. I saw. I was like, Well, why does she know she gets to live in Arizona and you guys are always talking about her meats and stuff. And because mom didn't go to traditional school, she went to that private boarding school for ballet. She didn't understand High School. So she when I got into Stanford, they were like, Oh, cool. Like nobody read. Nobody knew that it was like a big deal. So I think I was a little jealous. That mom related to you more because she understood that kind of achievement. And she didn't really understand, like, test scores.
Well, I was thought Mom and Dad liked you better especially like when I was in college. I thought they were disappointing me. So we had a huge fight when I was maybe in sophomore junior year of college, and Lexie was a couple years out and I don't know, they were You were probably picking at me and Mom, Dad weren't doing anything. I just I snapped. I just completely snapped. I said I hated you. I said I hate it dad and never want to see you again. I never want to see you again. We just don't get along or too different. I mean, I remember love you because your family but I hate you as a person. And I just went to my room. And that was that was probably the worst fight we've ever had. And
we've never talked about it. So
you are welcome.
And now we've worked together so
great. Yeah, that's that's pretty ironic. Okay, second question. What is one thing your sister is really bad at?
Everything technology.
Do you agree with that one?
Oh, my goodness video. Every time we're on a video call. It's just like Paige turn the camera like she can not do it. She never remembers her passwords. She doesn't remember what email account she has. She does know how to set up her phone. I do all of that for her. If she gets a new phone, it doesn't get set up until the next time I see her. You had your new phone for a year. Before you didn't use it. She bought a new phone didn't use it. And then I was like, alright, we need to set this up for you because she didn't know how to do it. So technology. I agree.
Okay, what is her most embarrassing story or mo Man,
I mean, honestly, the the nude pictures is probably the most embarrassing, but what's wrong with it? Oh man.
I feel like I just had a lot of really embarrassing things happen to me, like little things that like, I mean, they're getting yelled at by bus drivers or like I just a lot of bad things always happen to me. This is a really
hard one. Yeah, you haven't had a lot of like, oh my pants held down in public or you know, any of those kinds of things. It's just always a bunch of little stuff. I would say maybe the most embarrassing thing that happened to our neighborhood that we used to live in, was and I think this is more traumatic for you.
These are traumatic. People wonder why I'm so mad. She was you know,
maybe like six or seven years old. And our neighborhood was the biggest trick or treating neighborhoods. So there you know, it's back when I think trick or treating can't die down a little I haven't seen it this many kids. But like, you know, 10 or 20 kids would come to each door at a time, you will ring the doorbell. And this this lady just held out a bucket and said Take a couple and so Paige reaches in as like a six year old and takes three the lady slaps her hand in front of maybe 20 other kids and yells at her and says a couple of means two, and Paige just burst into tears and runs out and all these kids are just like looking or the fact that looked like a boy for you jority of my life. Yeah, you also looked like what maybe that's why you're so like feminine now. Because everyone thought I was legit. We had to pierce Paige's ears when she was little because I guess Yeah, her hair would fall out. So she had no hair. And yeah, we my mom got her ears pierced to make her look more like a girl because Paige would cry every time people would say she looked like a boy which is probably every day every day.
Yeah, that is so sad. But I'm going
to need you to post a picture was a fake so she was so cute. I wish I had like a funny embarrassing story. But they're all just kind of sad and pathetic in my life. Oh, pg. She was so cute, though.
Well, I'm glad people got to know me a lot better on this segment. Well, I mean, I talked about literally my childhood and everything I've been through. And like I said, I don't think people actually believe me. Yeah. So I'm glad that you could join us and explain everything that we have been through in our life and what we're doing now because it's I think it's pretty cool.
Yeah, it is cool. And I think one of the reasons that you've had such a great career up to this point is because you are authentic, you have to be yourself and for people saying it's a it's an act I think now with this type of career in social media, you have to be yourself people sniff it out, and they they know that it's not a thing and you don't get the notoriety So yeah, this is the real page shooting online. Yep. But
we're gonna go to a break but let's see I'm gonna have you stay around because we're going to talk about shadow Creek. We have a funny shadow Creek story. Yeah, so keep on listening
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we're gonna do some sports talk after the depressing recap of my life. So we had Jason co grab one of the CJ cup. It was originally at nine bridges in Korea, but they moved to shadow Creek in Las Vegas because of COVID. I will say shadow Creek is one of my all time favorite courses. Lexie went out there a couple times with me for charity events.
It's a beautiful golf course. Phenomenal. You're in the middle of the desert and all of a sudden you pull up to this lush like golf Wonderland. It's amazing.
And no one has ever been sober playing Shadow Creek before.
No, it's all the events we've been there for are just so fun. But also Sobhuza
you got stuck in a cart with someone who was Yes, super drunk. Oh, yeah, it was You almost ran off the road. Oh, it was terrifying. There's
a tight curve on one of them. He is holding a drink. There's two drinks in the cupholders. And he hands me a drink to hold so I thought I'd do Gus. Remember mine and he comes around a turn and I legitimately thought we were going to go over both wheels were up off the ground. It
was a lot. Good times. So I'm so glad Jason one as well. I played with him at the program at Riviera and one of the nicest guys super cool super laid back. But it's just so funny to see a PGA Tour event held at shadow Creek. I'm glad it was that people could see the beauty of the golf course. But those guys have never played that golf course sober. I mean, when you go play shadow Creek, you know you're there for a good time. So it's probably so weird for them to be on the golf course and play it and actually charted and see the way the holes are going because they are definitely seeing double at all times when they play that golf course. So I hope Jason likes to have a really good time. So I hope he's doing well this morning. I mean, I'm sure I'm sure you celebrate very hard in Vegas, but that was fun to watch. And then obviously Tori baseball Dodgers won in game seven. How did you feel about that?
I literally have never again, you guys know me. I hate emotions. And I have felt more emotions in those seven games than I have like, honestly, my whole life. I was. I actually like got teary eyed after they won. I was like, No one deserves this more. And then I'm like, man, now it's going to a World Series. I need healing and it's Tuesday. It's happening Tuesday.
Crazy. I can't believe that both games went to a game seven which was great. So the rays beat the Astros raves, but I wish the Lord Astor I wish it was the Astros vs. Dodgers. I think that would have been a great World Series probably would have been one of the most highly viewed World Series, especially after last year and the cheating scandal and everything with the Astros. It would have been interesting. Yeah, I can't deny that it would have been fine. I just I don't
think anybody would have been watching it comfortably. Like you wouldn't be like, Oh, this is gonna be good. It's more of it would felt like sudden death. Like if Astros win. They're cheating again is where my head's going. And if the Dodgers won, you'd be like, yeah, that's happy and redemptive, but it's just like, the whole time I was watching the Astros play the rays. I'm like, Are we okay with this? Like we're okay with them being here right now. Like very you just don't. I'll never be able to trust the Astros again. No, no,
no, I know. But so Tori, though we have a problem because you're a Dodgers fan. And I am I am now a Dodgers fan as everyone knows after my feud with the padres, but I said the rays are going to win the whole thing. So I'm gonna go ways and you go with the Dodgers. And maybe we can put a little fun bet on it.
Super Down. But I just want you to prepare because the Dodgers are winning. So yeah,
no, I feel that title. I feel that too. I will say that Mookie Betts is probably one of my most favorite baseball players of all time
I think I will have my first child's name now be Mookie Betts first name he is just
used for so cool. So cool. I mean, he makes me want to watch baseball and if you guys have been listened to the podcast for a while, you know, that's not an easy thing to do. So it's not an easy thing. No. Okay, so one last sports story. And this is a rough one because I ranted about hoodies on the golf course last week, and I was very frustrated about it. And a new story came out where a guy was kicked off the golf course because he was wearing black socks. Black I thought maybe
the most golf thing I've ever heard he was wearing black shoes. Yeah. So what'd you want him to wear white? So
I saw some black shoes. I don't get it. I don't understand why golf continues to do this. Why does it matter what color socks he's wearing?
Is that something that's actually written to do some dress codes? Yes. Color? Yes. Absurd.
It typically has to be white.
Apparently, I always thought that you had to wear black socks to black shoes. If you were white socks black shoes, and he looked like a doofus. But I guess mostly dorks play golf. So it makes sense. Wait, how interesting. No, but not only is the dress code bad, but they also want you to dress poorly too.
And to be kicked off the course for your sock color. I mean, at least make it like when you don't have a tie at a fancy restaurant, like make the guy Buy some socks. I don't know. That's just ridiculous.
It's just It drives me insane. I mean, you've seen all the time where I'm always getting either like in trouble or kicked off. Or we were at the range the other day, and I were taught that was a little.
It was funny. She was shooting this story. And it's like, I think this is the line. I think I hit the line that I don't want to cross anymore. This is it. But I mean, it's why we go to public ranges. It's more fun. I mean, if you would look down the line of people who are hitting there, everybody was in sweats and honestly, I saw a lot of leggings and a lot of tank tops on girls, which I thought was great. I have friends all the time who don't play golf who want to get into golf that asked me Can I go to golf in this? Can I do this and they're terrified because they don't know what they can and can't wear? I'm like, just go to a public horse and wear what you want to wear. Yeah. So prohibitive.
I agree. It's so stupid. It's so stupid black socks. That that actually if you're wearing I mean
wears white socks with Flash I would never I would rather not play then be forced to wear white socks with black shoes.
Same same That's horrible. Would you act or would you ever wear in actually for ask a question? You know who would wear white socks with black shoes? Josh? Yep. listening right now going What? Are they talking? white socks and black shoes or whatever you should wear? My old person voice. Yeah.
Nailed it. Spitting image of Josh. Yeah, no. But the thing is, it kind of goes back to the hoodie though. Like I get that it's super petty. But like, if there's a dress code, just follow the dress code, and then we're fine. I know at private
golf course they can do whatever they want to do. I get it, but it's stupid. It is.
Oh, yeah. And then there has to be some kind of like, you can't you can't get that granular Right. Like are they going to start regulating? Like what kind of earrings you can definitely just hated the guy. Yeah,
they definitely they're like looking at Alvin or like, what? Wearing black socks today to kick that degree. I don't know. Other sports talk. I don't know, football was pretty boring. This week. Steelers are still undefeated, some COVID issues as well, but nothing too exciting on that. So you know, it's where I'm feeling some TNA to want you some TNA?
Let's hop right into it. This one is from Alex, do you find it beneficial to hit a bucket at the range before a round of golf? Or is it better to go in cold? Ah,
I think it depends on the person. Definitely. I think warming up is good. But I would recommend if you don't have a lot of time, or you don't want to pay for a bucket of balls before you go play, go to short game. So go hit some chip shots and wide shots and putting that's going to save you more shots out on the golf course anyways, than just going in beating a bucket of balls. If you do want to hit Get a small bucket, warm up just a little bit and then hit some balls going through your pre shot routine. And that's it. You can do it in five minutes. 10 minutes. You don't need to hit a large bucket. I feel like sometimes when I practice too much before I go play, I get in my head about it because you're like, Oh no, I'm missing it right and then you're missing it left and then you're trying to change your swing and fix this and fix that. And so you always have to keep in mind that when you're warming up before you go play it's warmup so you're not trying to fix anything. You're not trying to change your swing. All you're doing is warming up your body. So if you tend to be a little mental when it comes to hitting golf balls you You can just do practice swings, just do practice swings, warm up your body and then go chip for a little bit. And definitely, definitely go hit some putts. I don't know how many times I'll see people not hit a putt. And then they three or four putt the first hole because they don't know how fast the greens are. And they're like, Oh, I had no idea. I'm like, There's a practice putting green right there. Go practice you're putting go chip, and that's going to be the best thing for you. All you have it. There you go. So that's TNA for this week. And guys, we want to hear from you. So make sure you're sending in those questions, those emails, you can email us at pr at I heart radio.com. Or you can go to our Instagram account, which is at playing around podcast, so definitely go follow us there and send your questions. Honestly, it could be anything. I am an open book. You guys know that so you can ask me golf questions. You ask me personal questions, whatever you want. So make sure you're sending in those listener emails. Lexi, I wanna thank you for coming on. I know you were probably a little nervous, too.
I feel better. I feel better now.
I popped your podcast cherry
Hi. No, hi. Just it needed to happen. He said, I'm getting too old. It was his time.
Let's find because you you listen to podcasts. I love time.
Maybe you were born for this, you know, I did take a writing for the radio course in college. And they told me I had a podcast voice. So maybe this is my calling. We always apply
just, you can pretend to be me. And then
we're going to brush up on my golf knowledge.
Now, but um, I think hopefully people enjoyed this episode and getting to know me a little bit better. And what we do, and I never talked about my family, really that much. I never post about you guys on social media, it shows something, they tend to keep a little bit more private. So this podcast has been fun to talk about my family a little bit more and all the crazy things we've done in the weird, unconventional life that we have lived. But again, I just wanna thank you for coming on. Hopefully you had a decent time.
Yeah, it was it was awesome. It was fine. And I do feel like we had some therapeutic moment we did. So you know, I feel better. Maybe I won't have PTSD over my traumatic experiences anymore. Dubai.
of the above, I think I'm just stalling because I know when we're done with this podcast, I'm going to have to go stare at this baby. And knowing what
she's probably napping, so if you're free to eat instead,
okay. Well, thanks for coming on. And as always, thank you guys for listening and supporting and catch us on the next episode.
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