feeling as impossible. Why me and you know, in very impatient, frustrated, all kinds of layers of things were happening. And, and because I kept sitting this way, I slowly began to notice that there was a difference between experiencing the pain in and of itself, and experiencing the pain with a self pity, and all the different aspects of it. And if I was able, if I had all the extra stuff, the self pity, the impatience, the frustration, then then it was, you know, intense psychological suffering, emotional suffering. But if I dropped the self pity, the pain remained. But it didn't become as bad. It's like headspace had breathing room, it eased up. And sometimes the pain would become quite manageable. Until I kind of forgot about kind of putting aside the self pity, he would come roaring back, and the knee pain would get intense again. And I saw over and over again, I was how much overlay I put on it, and slowly began to kind of simplify and simplify and not add all these layers on top. So that, to me, was incredibly inspiring, edit, give, give, give birth, to a kind of inspiration, of a faith, trust and confidence that this was a useful to shift how I saw the pain. And so this radical idea from this talk today, is whenever you have suffering, and you're going to try to do take a dharmic approach to it, like in meditation. See what the shift is, if you stop calling it, depression, anxiety, despair, grief, sadness, without any diminishing of it, without any disrespect for it, of how, what's happening for you, but simply shift the orientation to see it as pain, and then breathe with that and see if some of the layers that are extra baggage on it begins to settle. If you get inspired, like I, I was buy that, or have trust or confidence in it, that gives birth. that's similar to what the Buddha said that learning to see pain, suffering in a new way. through practice through the eyes of the past, not clear seeing in this way. That he said that gives birth to faith through confidence, that kind of inspiration. If then you don't just get inspired. But with that faith, that confidence to say, Okay, now I'm going to start practicing this new way of seeing, I'm going to stabilize it, and I'm going to use it more often. And really kind of give myself to develop this new way of seeing. That's when the stream begins to flow. And at first, it might be just a trickling little stream up in the mountain. But if we want to get this stream to be to grow and develop, we have to practice it. And so then we keep start practicing, we have this inspiration. And an inspiration can fuel the practice, confidence, confident, confused, fuel the practice, rather than continually falling back into the old patterns that can give rise to gladness to a delight that we have a practice. Wow, this is cool. I didn't know that I could live this new way. It's hard. It's challenging. I doubt it at times. But there are times when it's really great. And I think I'm on a path so So the Buddha said that once that faith is there, and we and we continue to practice without the practice and upon me, nothing will happen, then with the practice, then there comes a delight, a gladness or a satisfaction or a feeling this is right.