Board of Police Commissioners, Evening Community Meeting

10:30PM Oct 10, 2024

Speakers:

Commissioner Bernard

Keywords:

quorum established

prayer opening

community feedback

police accountability

policy updates

meeting approval

staff introductions

precinct report

crime statistics

mental health calls

domestic violence event

community engagement

officer recognition

public comments

budget concerns

When you look at feedback, dot.

Good evening.

The time is now, 6:30pm and I would like to call this meeting the

order

of the board of police commissioner. Implication by Chaplain David Boyd,

are you present?

Yes, I am in progress.

I can hear. Alright, let

us pray Father, in the name of Jesus. First you want to just tell you thank you, Lord. Lord, we thank You for this meeting that's about to take place. We ask that you would just have your way in this meeting today. God, we ask that you would fill us with wisdom. God, in the name of Jesus, touch each and every last person that's here that we follow the vision. Lord, we pray for our chief of police. We pray for every police officer, Lord, we pray that you continue to cover them and keep them. We thank you for this commission meeting today, Lord, give us what we need to X out the vision of what you called us to do, God. God. We thank you for each and every last person that's present today, upon the sound of my voice and God, we give you all honor, glory and praise in Jesus name. We pray, amen.

Amen.

Thank you so much.

So we do now have a quorum,

so we will get ready to move into oral communication.

Madam Chair, we have two speakers, Jasper Miller and Victoria Camille.

My name is Jasper Marcus Gardner. Movie out here, Crime Stoppers, building up the communities. Turkish coats, extra blood scarves and do a block party every year. 14 years, no fights, nonprofit news when you come out there, but it's okay, community, the guys are shooting at each other, building each other my neighborhood, so my friend, meet me over here. You bring some potato salad, you bring bread, and we just do a block part. Go get a permit legally, and get the bounce house, get a DJ five, 600 people every year. 14 years, never I've been harassed on all we do, some not my memory should last um couple weeks before event, um two police officers asked me, um two police officers rolling home. Said, You gotta, I think the white guys. I said, Yeah, it's somebody. Need to see it. It was for you make me a committed crime. He said, No, I need to know who you are. Why You Need to Know Who y'all? Cuz I need to know. I said, Man, knock lay it on somebody else. Um, you talk. Get out the time. Put the I don't want to get blood on the gloves on you. Put your gloves on. I saw you serious. You ready to go hands on, huh? Then I said, I act like I was videotaped. The police edited a videotape. It's amazing how much they break the law, and they promised to uphold it. These guys ready to take my ID order force me, and I haven't committed so my sister police officer, she goes down for my work. I called her, these guys harassing them. She come around and let me go. Two weeks later, my son get pulled over, banged up from the corner. I was out there. Police pulled up and pulled him

out the car. Sorry, that's your time. Give me five more seconds. Really quick.

Okay, I need the police to be held accountable. They help mess me up. Arrest me illegally, and the police precinct won't even take my complaints. They said I gotta stay in the house. They've been harassing me. Okay,

thank you, son.

So

what precinct was it? The 11th precinct, 11% all we do. We have our staff as well as officers to work with, but one of our investigators is in the audience as well. Did you file a complaint with the board of police commissioner? You can do that complaint online, but our investigator will help you alright. So can you help him out and then talk to Officer Jalen after that, talk to our investigator first. Thank y'all, yup.

Good evening, commissioners. Good evening.

Victoria Camille, district seven Coalition for police transparency and accountability. This situation right here, that body more camera needs to look be looked at, and that's exactly why we need it released on a regular basis. But anyway, that's not what I came here to talk about. So I do want to commend the staff. Over the last several months, they have been posting kind of the storyline of the policies that the board has been reviewing over time, which is perfect so that the public can go out there and see what's being reviewed and see which meetings it was reviewed at the policy committee meeting as well as here was not up to date, is the actual current policies, which are further down the page, which haven't been refreshed since December of last year. And so the board has approved multiple policies since then. And so the DPD policy manual that is published for the public right now is not aligned with what they're following, because it's all the way from December, so that can be updated that will be greatly appreciated for the public. Thank you,

absolutely. Thank you for pointing that out. And our policy manager is here. He's on Zoom, okay, um, she would definitely take a look at that. I've been very, very pleased with our policy manager. She has taken a deep dive at all the policies and the special orders from DPD and seeing what is current and what is outdated. And thank you, Miss Camille, for you know, always, you know, keeping us abreast to that and always coming to our meetings. And we welcome everybody in the public to have an open policy discussion with our team and our new policy manager. She's back on. She's on board now, and she's off to a great, great start, and I think you'll be very, very pleased with her actions. So let the record reflect that Commissioner Burton is here, and so, having said that, I'm going to entertain a motion to for the approval of the agenda for

or yes, yeah, yeah. I went, yeah. Let's get a roll call. Thank you, let the record reflect that Commissioner Bernard is present now as well

off the record.

Commissioner Woods present, Commissioner Smith, present, Commissioner Bernard,

Tony Linda Bernard, present District Two,

Commissioner banks,

present,

Commissioner Bell is excused, Commissioner Burton,

present on behalf of district five,

Commissioner Carter is excused. Commissioner Moore president, Commissioner Hernandez is excused. Commissioner Presley is excused. Commissioner DeWalt, present.

We have a we have a quorum. Uh, I'd like to entertain a motion for the approval of October 10, 2024, agenda, moved by Commissioner Moore and second by Commissioner Bernard. All in favor, say, aye. In discussion, anyone opposed, the motion is carried. Thank you very Connie. I entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes for October, the third, 2024, moved by Commissioner the wash and second by Commissioner Moore. Moore. All in favor, say, aye, and one opposed, or any discussion and one opposed the motion is carried, introduction of bopc staff, chief police and elected officials,

Chairman and honorable board. We have chief investigator, Jerome Warfield, Mr. Robert Brown, Miss johnya Underwood, Miss Theresa blossom, Jasmine Taylor, Miss Felicia Tyson, Miss arnicia Joshua, Miss Mary Barber. Mister drew freeze acting supervising investigator, Elgin Murphy, our interpreter for this evening is Doctor Stephanie Beaty, court reporter, Don Handyside, Sergeant Quinn audio and Mr. Charles Henry media services, Deputy Chief Arnold Williams is here. Elected officials and representatives are as follows, Marie overlaw for state representative, Tyrone Carter's office, preacher Butler, president of second precinct community relations, Ladon Davis office of Councilman Ray durhall, the third former Commissioner William Davis also,

also we have Leslie malcolmson and Rita Smith. That ends the introductions, Mister Chair,

okay, thank you. Thank you very kindly. And I don't know if Greg Anderson is here, the executive director of literature strip of this facility, but want to thank him publicly for allowing us to use the space. This space is a bedrock for transformation. I've I've come here a number of times and talk to the people here and engage with them, and he's doing a remarkable job and helping transform the lives those who have been justice impacted him and his staff and his team. I want to applaud them for their hospitality this evening, definitely, hats off to them and all of the great work they doing to save lives of the citizens of the city of Detroit. So this evening, we are in the third precinct. This is overland district of district five and six within the precinct of Commissioner Burton, representing District five, we will have some remarks from him at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, yes, sir. Just wanted to say it's great to be here the third degree saying, you know, this is a great precinct with with a rich history. Really love the work that you all are doing over here, especially with the NPOs, the neighborhood associations, the block clubs. You have really strong leadership and

great to be back over here.

You know, as I recall, that, you know, I had to knock on probably about 10,000 doors, as in the area along first got elected, I knocked on like 33,000 doors in the district, but 10,000 doors

right here, three and 10 and so forth. So it's great to remember

with you all. I always come for a national medal

fellowship with you all, but it's great to see Maria Smith and Leslie malcolmson and your partner. Thank you. Thank you very Connie. And we'll give greetings to the commander well in a few but he's he's hit the ground running in terms of this district, a very remarkable commander in this district, and I appreciate your leadership. Here is this also is Commissioner Carter district as part of hers, and she's not here today, but I want to entertain a motion to council. October 17, 2024, meeting of the Board of police commission due to the nacole conference in which we're going to be out of town. So moved support move by Commissioner Bernard and supported by Commissioner Moore. All in favor. Say, aye,

the motion.

Okay, we'll do it under discussion. All in favor say, Aye, any discussion? Yes, I have discussion. You know, the charter speaks that represent the portion meet weekly. And so if we, if the conference is going on to the 17th, I like to move that the board has this meeting on that, say the 18th. We move that we should still meet so we can be in compliance with the city charter. Anybody want? I want to dive in. I don't know if anyone want to second that motion.

There's no staff. There will be no staff here to prepare for the meeting, finders, documents, etc. It's impossible to do a meeting the day that many people are coming back, or the day that either that day or

there will be staff here

in and there will be staff here where we can still have a meeting for the public on that, you know, saying the 18th, once again, this is our fiduciary responsibility to Meet weekly. And you know, just like you have, you know, the community involved, you know, in these meetings, but you also have the police that's involved in the community, 24/7, so we have to be able to hear from both sides. And therefore we should be able to, as commissioners, we should exercise our pedestrian possibly divide having that meeting. Since this charter mandate that we meet weekly, any support there, there have been no second, and then we're in a discussion on that. All anyone opposed, anyone opposed to the motion that no man through the chair just want to just make it very clear that the charter speaks very clearly, the what we can what, what meetings that we can cancel for. And this, if this is not one of those. And you know, it's definitely, you know, definitely, for us to cancel, you know, any of our meetings at this time. Okay, well, you don't have a second to that, to your motion but all say aye, or, as it relates to, do we exhaust that motion already? It's already moved. Okay. The motion has been carried. Alright. Thank you, alright, Chief of Police and and 30% report, yes, sir, updated, uh, information on the injure officer. Police officers working on 73 seats. Um, was on duty patrol in the vehicle involved in a particular accident, which occurred on September 8. Um, I responded to a drag race plane that officer is currently. We also have another officer for fifth precinct, also involved in on duty troll accident with another vehicle, which Colonel central fifth by responding to a home, invasive house, also off duty. Going to our prime data. Information I'm going to read is is updated as of October 9. So for homicides, we're down 19 from last year. So we've had 38 less homicides this year. Our non fatal shootings were down 28% 190 less non fatal shootings this year than we had last year for robberies. You're down 18% I'm sorry. You're down 18% that was, that is 200 left, 200 or four less robberies this year, last year for overall, part one violent crime, we're down 8% so we've had a decrease of 796 part one violent crime incidents during 2004

I'm sorry, 2024

for carjacking. The 25% that is a decrease of 33 carjackings this year. I'm looking at mental health calls for mental costs for individuals in crisis, we've had 309 more calls this year we had last year. And we're looking at the total numbers. Our number is 2701 I'm sorry, 2751 but looking at our overdose calls this year, 207 less overdose calls than we had last year. If we look at the actual number, that's going to be 4447 calls we've actually that is a reduction as compared to 2023 can can you speak in a mic? Clear? Because ASL team is hard. It's hard. It's hard for them to pick you up. I just got a text, loud and clear. Chief, okay, I would ASL team just texted me in the city. It's hard for them to hear and it's because it's the understood you do that? Who the chair understood? Also, I want to make sure I am talking slower. I know last time I was here. Also a little too fast incidents. So we've had a couple incidents that we're going to bring to the board's attention. One is the update. We had a fatal standing that occurred on Sunday, September 29 2024 this was about a 3:59pm officers were dispatched to the 6000 block with Minot so this investigate a possible missing person. Officers were dispatched to the scene to meet someone whose coworker had not shown up to work in a few days. They spoke to the witness, stated that he came to check on the victim and discovered a line on the floor in the front room suffering from an apparent stab wound. Officers observed the victim line on the floor the blood bank 33 arrived at the scene and pronounced victim to see. Officers also notified that the victims, 1999 were saving for those who were missing. Officers from the six precincts preserved the scene and detected from the homicide section. Detectives were informed that the victim's vehicle was recovered in Dearborn and a 17 year old male was detained, Officer from Detroit Police Department. PD, and conveyed the suspect.

Wayne County Youth Hall and

investigators interview the suspect and concluded that the suspect murdered the victim on october 3, 2024 detective submitted warrant Wayne County prosecutor office for review on October 8, the suspect was arraigned at 36th district court for first degree homicide, premeditated felony murder and unlawful driving away the suspect will be charged as An adult. Was remanded to custody and remains held you. Incident Number two, fatal shooting. Officer involved on Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 7:15pm, officers were on routine patrol to recognize the individual riding a bike, person who was wanted for violation of parole. Officers confirmed that the suspect had an active war for parole violation and attempted to investigate the suspect at Chandler Park Drive in Canyon. The suspect jumped off his bicycle, removed a handgun from his waistband and began firing shots at the officers. The officers returned fire at this time, preliminarily, the evidence suggests that the individual fatally wounded itself. We're waiting for the medical examiner to confirm that, but officer did return fire. But at this time, all the evidence points that the individual fatally wounded itself. None of the officers were injured, and Michigan State Police currently has investigating this with our home site Task Force, Incident Number Three fatal shooting on Sunday, October 6, 2024 at 12:07am officers were dispatched to the 17,000 block of Stansbury to investigate a federal shooting. Officers responded to the scene and observed victim y on the sidewalk from multiple gunshot wounds. Medics arrived on scene and pronounced the victim on scene. Officers from the 12 precinct preserved the scene. The detectives from the homicide section notified detectives determined that the victim was shot last sorry was shot and was scheduled a period of trial related to a patch of the case is still under investigation. Investigation. Detectives were asking anyone with additional information regarding this incident contact, crime starters at one 800 speak up or Detroit rewards TV.

On Monday, October 7, 2024. At 250 were dispatched to the 17,000 block of Hoover to investigate a fatal shooter. Officers arrived at scene and observed victims sitting in a passenger seat of a vehicle serving from multiple gunshot wounds. Medic 13 responded to the scene and transported the victim to the local hospital, where the victim was pronounced deceased. Don't arrive. Officers from the ninth precinct preserved the scene and detected from the homicide section

were notified.

The suspect was last seen driving a great Dodge pickup, uh. Detectives are asking with anyone any information to this homicide to contact Crime Stoppers at one 800 speak up or detroitres.tv Incident Number Five bologna sought seven year old female on Tuesday, October 8 at 3:53pm officers were dispatched to the 5800 block of green beach and investigated child staff officers At the scene observed the victim suffering from a cut along her neck. The victim was transported by a mag 48 to a local hospital where the victim was missing stable condition. Officers interviewed witnesses who reported observing an older white male next to the white man walk over to the victim and place a knife to her neck. Let's suspect then escaped the area in a white van. Officers from the sixth precinct preserved the area, and detectives from the sixth precinct detective unit were notified. Detectives were informed that a 911 call had just come in, and caller stated that he was going to commit suicide because he just cut the little girls through. Officer determined the suspect was in a 6000 block of Penrod. They responded to the suspect's location where they detained him, and he was arrested at the state detectives from the sixth precinct detective unit are in the process of preparing an award to be submitted to Wayne County prosecutor, office, room, and that's all for the actual criminal incidents that we have for or by the incense that we had that reported to the Board of positives. We had the honor Conroe, which took place yesterday. This was to honor Detroit. This took place at Detroit Police Public Safety headquarters yesterday, and the run was to honor Connor Donahue, who was a student police officer who was critically wounded off duty, he was actually put off to the side of the road to help stray dog who's on a freeways. And process of doing that. So the Detroit Police Training Academy actually held the honor Conrad, which we got an annual event, and that was held yesterday, and that takes place with the graduating class from the Detroit Police Department. They put that together once,

walk them out. Wednesday concluded for this year. Yesterday. Walk a Mile. Wednesday kicked off at Detroit Public Safety headquarters.

We call it a walk a mile because it was the one last mile that walked this year. We walked two so we had a lot of presence there with a lot of officers, and so it's a very well received I'm also Domestic Violence Awareness Month kicks off Friday. The event will be held in a sky room at the Detroit Public Safety headquarters. It'll be from 9:30am to 2pm at 10am the domestic violence walk, which honors those who lost their lives a result of domestic violence, will be held in front of the public safety headquarters at 11am speakers and resources will be available in sky based on blue events tomorrow, the faith and blue opening ceremony will be held at the corner ball park at 4pm there will be several faith and blue events across the city. That concludes the chief report question, the board has commission banks. Thank you. Good

chair, yes, Deputy team, you say the suspect wounded himself? Is there any limitations or proof on that

that he wounded himself? So that's all preliminary information. We're waiting for the medical examiner's report to come back for us before. Oh, well, from all the preliminary evidence that we

okay. Now, did he kill himself or wound himself?

Killed himself, he he wounded himself to the point where he killed himself, okay, wounded himself, hope he fatally wounded himself, but

he ended up dying. Okay, yeah.

Commissioner Moore,

thank you, Mister Chair, yes, sir.

So Deputy Chief, you mentioned the incident in the city policing as it relates to a seven year old girl. I just want to let the community know that is being true, that I hate crime. He was from Middle Eastern descent, and the man that

white male in these times

around the world, Detroit Police Department is doing the right thing. They're investigating as a handcraft so I just wanted to add that secondly, you mentioned dragon racing, the officer was injured drag racing. Are you aware of any police officers that are actually participating in drag racing around

I'm not, but it's something I can definitely get to. Okay, thank you, sir, Commissioner Bernard and Commissioner Smith.

Just quickly thank you for that report, but all of the incidents that you reported regarding incidents that involved police officers or others where they were hurt, they're not in our materials. If you would be kind enough to make sure that the same incident report material that you have that we get, I would appreciate just a report. Maybe it was an oversight

through the chair that was definitely oversight, because they make sure you have the bridge the information every page

that thank you for an excellent report. The other thing the in terms of the first of all, according to your administrative messages for the community. You can come to police headquarters on Friday, on the 18th, I believe, and get a covid shot and all the rest of the vaccination that you're supposed to get for the winter. You have to bring your ID, and irrespective of what your insurance card is, is bring that to because they'll bill it, but it's being done by CBS at police headquarters, on on on third, and then finally, in terms of the domestic violence event that you're speaking about for tomorrow, everyone's asked to wear purple. So if you can wear purple, it's a sign of of peace and courage and survival. And then do the walk, and then come upstairs. In Chicago, I'm sure we'll have refreshments and stuff like that for people that are there, and there will be speakers on the issue of domestic violence.

So of course, it is that all of those things that you referred to is open to the public in line with your report. What is reporting your questioning? Well, so I'm aware of those events taking place. I'm not sure of the opening, but I'm going to go with whatever Commissioner Bernard has stated. And thank you, Commissioner that did not that this is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and we get a ton the daughter department get a ton of domestic domestic violence calls and and that's high thing in the Detroit Police Department. Can you talk about that Well, the Detroit Police Department, we received nearly a number of what we call aggravated aggravated assaults, which are assaults, felony assaults. And we also have simple a and Bs for charges, simple assaults, basically hand hand. We have, generally, about 35% of all of our aggravated assault have a domestic violence Nexus. So our domestic violence unit is is really active. We also have social workers at the precincts to assist those victims and also to try to get some help to the actual perpetrators, to try to break that cycle. But domestic violence is a big issue, and it's one of those control issues, because it's something that happens with known individuals. Yeah, so it's a lot that we try to do to stop that, and it is problem. Thank you. I just want to lift that up as as you stated that, and we absolutely denounced it as a commission, Commissioner Smith and then Commissioner Dewas. Thank

you through the Chair, I wanted to know about the fatality that occurred on me, not that you referred to was that a result of sex offender indulging in an app

chair. So I'm not, I don't have the specifics on it, so I have to get back with you. Thank you,

sir. Commissioner Walker, thank

you, Mr. Chair. I noticed in some of the data that was provided as it relates to mental health related laws and service that are our numbers are going up, right? Just real quick. So I noticed the grand total, it's almost 800 more for the grand total. And then within each category, the only one that didn't go up is mental health calls that are violent with that, you know, the person's armed. Well, that pretty much stayed the same, but all of the others have increased in what are we doing as a department to address the increase?

So I think one of the reasons for the increase is we have an increase in the chair, we have an increase in awareness as a department. We have a actual crisis intervention team, which is an actual unit, and their job is to work directly with D win, to have outreach and to do intervention on individuals within the community that we know to have mental crisis. So we're extremely active with that unit. We work hand in hand with D win to provide resources, and I think we put a lot of information out to bring mental health to the forefront a lot of people's minds, so we get a lot more reports. And I think that's one of the things

through the Chair, just just real another real quick question, how does the unit work for the benefit of the public. Is it assigned? Do we have individual officers assigned to various precincts, or is it citywide? Does that unit assist and go from I don't know. They're requested. Where do they start from? That unit, the d1 unit, or the work the group that are working with d1 through

the chair. So our CIT task force team, they're they're citywide, so they're centralized unit, and they basically go out and they have people that they check on, so you want to give them some names, and they'll check on some names. So they develop a list of people who receive mental health services, and they'll check on them. One of the other things that they do is they are open or for cause. So if there is a person in mental crisis, dispatch will dispatch that mental health unit, and then if, let's say, we have a regular police run where officers are responding, they get to the scene and they determine that they have someone who's in a mental crisis, they'll actually request the mental health unit. And the mental health unit is just really phenomenal. What they've been doing. We all know that it's it's very difficult for the police to manage individuals who are mental crisis. With the closing of a lot of hospitals, a lot of resources that we used to have in the state that were provided by the state, those are gone. So the Detroit Police Department tried to fill that gap, and our crisis intervention team unit is our task force is, is one of the ways to feel to fill that gap. And they they doing a phenomenal job. We actually had an instance last Thanksgiving where we had an individual who was in mental crisis, who had a knife and he was in a vehicle and he was starting to harm himself, and it was on Thanksgiving Day, and they spent CIT officers spent six hours talking about they that ended very successful with norm. So they do a phenomenal job. Thank you very much. Before we go to Commissioner Moore, Let the record reflect that the vaccination is not open to the public at public safety headquarters that was commissioner that spoke on that. It says employees must have medical insurance cards and employee identification cards with them at the time of service and so. But you know you go to CVS and with your medical doctor, you know to get service for that. Thank you, Commissioner Moore. Thank you, Mister

Chair. Just to piggyback on Commissioner Washington's mental health question, uh, Commander Pierce and I were going back and forth, you know, not in a negative way, but just for informational purposes. And I brought up a model called the Eugene Oregon model called Cahoots, as for Crisis Assistance, helping out on the streets, because I believe that police officers should not be in the mental health business, and I don't think that they want to be in the mental health business. It's a lot of stress on them things of that nature. So I would just challenge the community to look at the Cahoots model out of Eugene Oregon and see if they like it, and see if we can implement some parts of it. I think it might be a funding issue, and I have a couple of interesting strategies, Mr. Chairman, we can get some funds reading the budget. The Cahoots here.

Thank you. Thank

you, Commissioner Lawrence, you was asking you about to be recognized. Okay, commission Burton. Thank you. Yep, Chief. I have a couple of questions. Basically, I know that the third Preston is now in the new third precinct is now in the old teachers of Federation building. I remember years ago they was right there in the corner Graham Boulevard and and Woodward. Since they've been in a new building, have that building had a build out? Or, you know where it's conducive for the officers you know that work in that that location? Through the chair so that building is is receiving the usual periodic maintenance that's required a quarter buildings. As far as a specific build out, we had to add different things to the interior. We had to add a basically a security, sound court door that has controlled entry for people coming in. We had to have more cubicles for offices, but we're always doing updating and maintenance. We had some issues with within the building recently, and we've had a lot of support from basically all the city GSD, and also the contraction that the contractors that work for GSD to come in and support, but there is maintenance that takes place. What is GSD? I'm sorry, General Services Department. Thank you, sir. And what they do is they provide maintenance and other services for departments within the city. And going back to your question, we also have what we call a capital improvement so the parking lot, we had to re gravel the parking lot. And I think we're doing a lot to make sure that both the citizens and the officers who come to work, it's a great place to continue to be awesome. Awesome. You know, the reason I ask because I know, you know, you know, not long ago we were talking about budgeting and stuff like that at the department's budget wasn't in as well as the BC budget, and I don't think it came up at that time where any of whether myself or my colleagues, raised a concern about number three. And so I'm raising it now. I know that lecture, you know, electric charging stations is something that a lot of donors are going with across the city, especially in the downtown area, in court town is, are we going to start seeing any of that for the precinct? I know some of you know some of I know that DPD does have some electric vehicles my understanding, as well as municipal parking. So for me to answer the that infrastructure change. I don't have the answer. I can find that answer, and I agree absolutely. And the also the budget chair, they going to be taking on the kind of DVD budget, and that's that's a good point to make with them as they look at the budget and have that budget discussion, I had a follow up, follow up question, and I used to, I used to serve on the Finance Committee for for NATO, years years ago, where we how are we looking for us with fleet? And I'm not sure if you, you can answer that question or not. But, you know, I like to know, how are we looking at parks with fleet throughout the department, but also with number three? I you know, you know, I know, some years back, I think vehicles were, were donated to the department was that Dan Gilbert and Robert Pinsky, if I recall correctly. But how are we holding up right now? Virus for fleet and like, say, if you have a officer, that's six, five or six, four, the fleet that the department is, you know, the you know looking to go into is that deal was going to be conducive for someone at 6636465, or so, when it may be, you know, you know, you know, say you know 280 pounds or 300 pounds, or whatever that that case may be. I do have concerns about fleet, and I'm looking at, you know, far as like travel time, you know, First Officers, you know, responding to businesses, responding to mental health runs, you know, as well as residential and things of that nature. I know that we have a lot of, you know, good men and women on on this force department, and I know police response time had made a tremendous improvement since the time I've been here, from the time I first started here into where we are now. And that only comes from, you know, good leadership from the top and the ranking file and down to your members. I would love, you know, to hear something at a later time, if not today, you know. But what can look like? You know? What can we do to help with the flu? You know, we want to make sure that you all have your department team have all of the tools and resources to continue to respond to service and residents, as well as the business community. I've seen a project green light is definitely expanding the span of a lot of in recent three, recent seven, so far, throughout the city and of a lot of our you know, members in our community supports green light and things of that nature. And we know that officers often have to, you know, respond to a number of businesses as well as residents. So I'll just, I'd love to hear something at some point in time, for 40 years out about the week, you can make that happen for Deputy Chief make sure that we get a reported back out on the fleet, and I'm sure that our budget chairperson is going to be looking at all of those things as relates to the budget. But a DPD, you know, so they had a good huddle, and they focus on making sure that that we take a deep dive in the budget. No, but thank you for for listening, hearing them out, and make sure that you know, if you can get a a response to him on that you know,

yes, whenever you get through, I just want to get your attention. Okay. Well, no, I'm

good. Um, it was commissioner Bernardine just, just

very quickly on the domestic violence issue. It's, it's important that we reach out to men who are also victims of domestic violence by women. I've had, personally several clients that were male, that were beaten up, had all their stuff destroyed and everything else. Women are violent too. This is not a girl issue, as the Chairman said, this is a violence issue, and I think that we have to make a special effort, because men look, you know, so they're not supposed to be beat up by girls, but they can be, and a lot of girls are big. They're not saying that objects and they do stuff. So males are victims of domestic violence too. I think that part of our outreach, in that way, should also be outreach to men. Thank

you, great Tommy Commissioner, thanks. And then we're going to go to the command Thank you,

good chair, Deputy Chief, what type of topics is going to go forward in the domestic violence abuse event? What type of topics to the chair? Just give me a quick second to go through. Or, well, we may gotta give more, but just a few, maybe three, two,

uh, maybe Ty is one of them. Uh, Jalen, you guys, y'all are working with that project for the department and according to domestic violence, so that that comes to the mic, please.

That particular event has been publicized on social media platforms, so that event is open to everyone. It's not only for women, it's for everyone, and not even just survivors, but any you know, allies or family members of that picture that's open for everyone to be a part of, and that's being led by our domestic violence

union. Alright? Thank you. The chair, yes, just go back to the notes earlier. At 10am it's going to be a domestic violence walk, and again, the actual event starts at 9:30am at 10am it'll be a domestic violence walk, which will start right outside front of Detroit Public Safety headquarters. At 11am that's when the speakers will be in the sky room, and they also have different representatives providing resources. So those are two of the things that I

will you

know. Well, what I what I wanted to know, would they be having things like topics like how to spot an abuser or or signs of an abuser, you know, like, Can I get a few topics, a couple topics I definitely achieved. That's what I wanted. When the officer came up here, oh, he didn't get no topic. Okay, I knew everybody was invited, but I want to hear some. He's, he's, really good.

Um, I don't have the topics right now for you, Commissioner banks. Um, again, this event is being put on by our domestic violence unit, right? And so they have their agenda and their run of show, and they have their plan, and they have their speakers that they've invited to come out. So I'm not sure exactly what it what their topics will be, but I believe it's going to be a very good event, and we'll all get some very knowledgeable information on if you have any questions, you'll have some great speakers that we'll be able to ask them those questions there at that event, um, which that portion begins at 11am and scouting wonderful.

I'm also Mister Chair.

Thank you, sir commander. And thank commander has done a stellar job yesterday with the Tigers game. Your precinct has been stellar. We had over 45,000 people in the city of Detroit down at that game, and I wanted to bench you, and hats off to you. Pray, Commander, you're the chair I traded to other people. What they have to say about the city of Detroit is a very resilient city. Absolutely. Can

I go without enough? Good evening, honorable board. Good evening to everyone, the audience, community, those that are, those that are this evening, virtually the first one to introduce my team, to my right, my partner, Captain Conway petty, MPO, there's an amazing MPO team for this community. MPO Moore Campi and I believe NPO pincham and Hawkins, great team. I just want to acknowledge them before I get started. What's your name? Commander, please. I'm sorry, Commander people, Gen Z,

you last name absolutely Fs and Frank,

U, L, G, E, N, Z, I, thank you. If I start off giving an overview of the precinct, how we're looking here today, go into some of our strategies, current trends, community engagement. So year to date, going in from October 7 the third precinct is an off to a great start. Year to date, down 10.3% in part one crime, 1.7 reduction in part one, violent crime and 12.3% reduction part one, property crime, I do want to highlight the third precinct. It's not a violent crime precinct, as you would see numbers in the eight and nine property crimes when we talk about a reduction of 12% year to date for third precinct as a true impact when it comes to businesses, home invasions in the autos in the downtown area. We've seen great reductions. We initially started this year off in the red, year up part of the dedication by the amendment of this department. The strategy has been put in place. We have now seen a 12% reduction. We're going to continue those strategies moving forward. When you're looking at violent crime, I do want to talk about non fatal shootings and homicides. We ended last year historic low numbers. So I want to take a deeper dive and look at a two year average and really see deep down how we are trending. If you compare it to your average for our non fatals and our homicides, we truly see the impact that's made in this community. Homicides were down 18% over the last two years. Non fatal shootings, really large reduction of 51.1% comparing two years overall sexual assault down to 15.7% motor vehicle theft down to 14 8% and then moving forward, carjacking down 12.5% so when you're looking comparing numbers from year to year, you're still seeing reductions. When you bring that out even further, two years, you see great reductions here in the third precinct. Next I want to talk about crime trends. Violent crime in the last 28 days, great reduction of 27.6% that's 24 fewer violent crimes that have occurred in this community. Sexual assaulting down, angry assaults and robberies down every 1% property crime that we touched on here today down 12% we carry that through the last 28 days, ending through summer, we're down about we're about even. Larson, we're down another about half a percent. And we talk about numbers and statistics, and they're great, it's still a number and it's still a victim that's been impacted. So our approach is, one crime is too many, no crime is too small, and it's the approach that we take as a community. These detectives and our mission reductions are great, but it's one too many. Need to handle that case, provide the highest level of service to that victim, provide closure and prevent reoffending acts in this community. And that's our commitment to this community. When we talk about increasing strategy, it's a multilingual approach. We believe in the data. We believe in data approach of our strategy and deployment, weekly briefings with our special operations, our precinct detective unit, and identifying those individuals that are driving up private this community, most importantly, holding them accountable, having Park details so the community that's out in the park could be free, safe, not become victims. So staffing parks during key points are traffic enforcement, not only about enforcement, about education of the public. We've had great success in our detective bureau, great leadership there, taking the technology and the tools, leveraging that and identifying, holding those accountable in the community. We have eight units also part of the third person. It's kind of unique here. It's really a supplement to the MPOs, and they do an insane job every day. But those beat officers are in certain neighborhoods, tied in. We have a walking beat. Not too many places have that. We have an officer that walks through the community, checks in with these businesses and really tied in with the schools in that area, those community members, they go out saying, Get out every day, our special operations, dedicated group of officers, again, doing restore orders, pulling those violent criminals accountable, those warrant sweeps, not leaving an offender that's violent out in the community or the warrant, get them off the street. Hold accountable, bring injustice to those victims. It's our partnerships, state, local, federal, our crime Intelligence Unit has done an amazing job all year. So we look at illegal gatherings, block parties to get out of control. Our strategy to get ahead of it, not waiting for that act to occur, getting out there, communicating, making sure they do file proper permits and helping them through that process as well. We talked about green light. Green light, I support. It's been a great initiative, but leveraging that technology, helping our detectives out at all times juvenile curfew and enforcement, we've been great success in the downtown area, especially with juveniles and just any type of crime. We discussed mental health today. Big believer, we need to more on that, getting those resources out there, if it's the unsheltered someone suffering from mental illness, getting the resources they need if they need shelter, providing them those necessary shelters. Importantly, provide those all the resources. And our biggest strategy that's most effective is this community, we understand we can't do this job alone and working together. We've seen the success. As Commissioner Burton pointed out, this a very strong community. I've been here since February, to this precinct, and blown away by the support of everyone here, reaching out and the partnerships everyone. So that's the number one layer. And I think if we're going to see improvement, building a strong community. And just lastly, just want to go over some unit success, and I want to emphasize team. Men and women's department do a great job every day in the downtown area. Jerome was aware. We hosted the Annabelle draft, talking 800,000 people, of course, in three days. And have been reached out from cities from all over the US, and putting green bay that's hosting the draft next year, and they're looking at us to say, How did you put it down? What resources? How did you engage the community? And we are truly the model of that. And now people are coming to us to ask for help. And again, it's a great work by the meadow weathers department, the Grand Prix, the fireworks, numerous presidential visits, the weekend, deployment downtown, numerous concerts, sport events I could keep going on, but that all occurs here in a third precinct. And some dedication of men and women, engaging the community. It's great for the community, great for the businesses. We're going to continue that five years are playing tonight. It's very exciting. Just left down there, you're talking to another 45,000 the wings starting at eight o'clock. So I will, after this, maybe going back down there. Just why not go with great work. I'm excited about being here. It's been a great community. I'm going to turn over to Captain petty, just a few things and some key involvement, yes, sir,

good evening. Chair, good evening.

Make sure you talk in the mic for our ASL, good evening to the chair. Captain Conway Patty said, Imma go over a few community engagements. Remember saying we're real big with our community. A lot of things, some of the things that we've done National Night Out, things like that, we have trunk or treat coming up, which 31st precinct. We have a brand new page line. So make sure you guys come out and support us on the

19th. We

will have, you know, Commissioner burden, to be out there and come on down the 19th. If you have any fancy cars or motorcycles. And we're raising coats for kids, that's good. So we're going to try to do that. Ask it if people bring only coats from one to 16 years of age. We're going to try to give them out on Halloween, but we're going to collect them on the 19th, also on the 19th. It's not ours, but they're doing a a voting on Boulevard at the voting center that was a long day, kept shut down and morning. So you know, if you haven't registered, or you're going to have the hands out there and literature and everything, you can let the communities know to come out and and support that everybody has to vote. I know who you vote for. You have to vote. Sorry. God given, right? Um, community meeting, our next community meeting at the precinct is October 15, 6pm I'm going to talk about some of the things that our neighborhood police officers do and introduce those to you. So we do things, sisterhood, mentorship, program. We do the school crossings. We deal with the charter schools because they don't have their own dirty police threats and everything else. So we do daily visits charter schools that are in the precincts. We do anti bullying classes, conflict resolution of the dare, which is the Drug Abuse Resistance Education and ego gun safety classes. And we do stranger danger, which are just some of the program, and there's a lot more that they do, gun locks. We offer gun violence in India. Phenomenal, phenomenal. Uh.

Commissioner Moore,

thank you, Mister Chair. I

just have two positive comments. First, about the capital. A lot of people don't know that capital pay was one half of a crime fighting law from the Detroit Police Department that's known as secret squirrel,

and

that guy, MS, Steve Miller, again, takes care a lot of business to keep everybody in this room. So I just want to say thank you for that publicly. Always tease your body privately, but I want to say publicly, thank you for your service, Commander. You help some citizens in the second precinct. It wasn't that you just helped them over the past or three weeks, but it was the follow up, and that's something that you know, how me and Assistant Chief Bureau have talked about over the past two months. It was your follow up, and you bring in additional resources to a problem, and that's what's needed. That's what's his victim's law. So I just want to say thank you everything you said I heard because of what we just went through the past couple of weeks. So thank you for your service. Thank you both for your leadership at number three, and officers,

thank you

absolutely anyone else. Thank you very, very Commissioner Burton, I just want to say thank you to the commander. Thank you to the captain of number three for the work, for the wonderful work that you and your team does to keep this community safe. 20, 477, days a week, you could not have done it without, you know, great leadership over here at number three. So you have a great team. I love your MPOs, the work that they do as well, just the overall team and the performance, because this is a team. And what I love about the third precinct is that not only their team, but it's like family oriented. I mean, you know, you know, when you look at Detroit residents in the third precinct, and you look at our officers at number three, I mean, it's one big family over here, and that's what it takes when you talk about police and community, the bridge coming together. And so I think what's going on at number three can be, can be something that can really shape and impact the whole, you know, the whole entire city, I think is something special here. Stuff, especially number seven, all of these presents are have something special, but it's really the magic over here with the leadership, with the cabinet commander and NPOs and the whole body. Thank you for job you all do. Thank you. Thank

you, Chair and honorable board. I do want to recognize Kenneth and Rita. They do an outstanding job. And we talk about our next community meeting, they bring media out. They're very supportive. Every time we have an event. By call, they're on it. I just want to acknowledge them and say thank you for the wonderful work that they do. Each and every day,

we're only going to take two minutes of your time,

right? So what

the church say? Amen. Amen. When we were here before the third precinct, I know you were treated to a great presentation by our president, Leslie malcolmson. She talked about the businesses and different communities that make up the third precinct. Leslie is having. Leslie is having surgery on her vocal cords so she can't talk. So Leah, my partner, alright, we're going to try and fill her shoes. I'm going to do, I'm going to take the right shoe and you're going to take the left shoe. So my my party. Take

as much time as you need. You're only going to take a couple minutes.

Okay, go ahead.

Okay. I want to begin by introducing the executive board for the third precinct Council. First, I want to introduce our illustrious president, our illustrious president, Leslie malcolmson, can you kind of raise your hand? Leslie lives in Midtown, and I don't want to be remiss. I want to introduce her husband to Peter, because that's the man behind the Peter does so much for our community and in helping us and the third precinct, he is always there and volunteer. So I would be remiss if I could recognize him next this handsome gentleman waiting to speak. Kim Smith is our vice president, and our Vice President lives downtown, and next would be our Energizer Bunny treasurer, Ernest. Little Ernest lives in iron Park, East Boston, North End area, and I called him the Energizer Bunny because anytime you're driving through there, you may see Ernest out there picking up trash, cutting vacant lots and all the rest of it. He's a he volunteers all the time, and he makes sure that that area where he lives in looks good all the time, and so forth. Our corresponding secretary was unable to make it. Lastly, I'm Rita Smith. I'm a recording secretary and sometimes sergeant.

And I live in ones called pioneer Hill, so now I'm going to turn it over to the

Good evening.

Okay, my name

is Bill, and me pull it up as much as possible, say and talk about it for our ASL, people who are online interpreting for us, for the city. Uh, thank you. Okay, yes, I

am the Vice President. Okay, policeman.

Now, yeah, we

can hear you. Good. Now, great. Great. Okay,

our commander, Matthew wojcinc, is in charge of the third precinct, also downtown services, also a task operations for all the events downtown, three gaming units, which no, by the way, I guess everybody knows that the three casino and security for the two line also security for the people mover.

I like to say bow tigers. Thank you very much, absolutely. I

just want to say one, last little word on this, in the immortal words of Isaac Hayes, our third precinct officer. Are some bad talking about the officers and the third precinct

Alright, come on, really.

Thank you.

We was making an impact in your community. Your voices matter all day, every day. And I think I don't know if that's the MPO right there. She was riding up the street when they had the they was giving, they had a little party out there on and the new store opening for the Morris Ford Bay, and came to seen some cars that was parked out there, and, you know, they was parked in fire lanes and all that type of stuff. And she graciously went to to the residence, and you know, it's they was everywhere and had all the fire lanes and but she went there passion. I was able to talk to the residents to be able to move their vehicles and stuff. So I seen him in action and and forget free density. No, he's my guy, and I appreciate you guys. Appreciate your leadership. I get downtown.

Chris chair, yes, sir, yes.

Again, really present.

Yes. I think before we go, there you have some presentations like to acknowledge the individuals that's here today. Yes, first person on the call up is the president of the third precinct community relations, Miss Leslie malcolmson, and if you want to do it from that Mike there, Commissioner, that might be better for you. I

This is

appreciation. Appreciation for this lesson. Leslie nachson, third precinct community relations to for developing strong ties with residents and community organizations and the third precinct and enhancing public safety, stronger police community relations and our city.

Alright. New war,

Miss Rita, Miss Rita Smith, back up.

Come back up.

It was years ago when I met Miss Rita Smith, it was

and this is strong leadership van, as is still retains a strong leadership down love with your board is doing

a great energy with great energy, great blessing.

It just press my mind. Went back to Dolores Bennett, years ago, pioneer, pioneer, the late Dolores. Bennett, absolutely.

This one. Here is a

certificate of appreciation for police officer of the quarter. Mario Esserman, is

he available?

Oh, yes, okay, so we

have one. We have a certificate appreciation for officer Mario Assman, for police officer of the quarter and

so this, sorry, yeah, yeah, if you could talk more into the mic for us to commission or to I.

You know,

you know, this year, I

said to myself, I said, you know, we have officer quarter. We had to, you know, said, I want to acknowledge the offices of the quarter for each precinct that that district five touches, so district five touches three and five and seven and 10 downtown services. So, so I looked up. I said, Hold on, yeah, yeah. Someone called officer reporter for this reason, right? It's great to recognize the officers that are serving, which is all of the men and women in this room I serve. So let's give every officer in this room a round of applause, and

the last certificate appreciation is for

Rodney day. Fortunately, he's not here. He's actually at the game, so,

but, but, you know, we

have a certificate appreciation for him as well.

So I guess we, I will leave this with for staff so righty day can come and get his

board. Okay? Thank

you very kindly. Yup. Thank you. Yes, sir, going back to oral communications.

Yes, Mister Chair. The next three, next three people to speak would be mister Dante Smith, Miss Maddox and miss and Rayne Kennedy,

go to public comments. Can we acknowledge all the NPOs in the room? Please? If we get all the NPOs arise, if our community cannot thrive or function or call our educated

tolls, alright? Yes, thank you for your service. And Deonte,

is he here? Uh, yes, sir. Good

afternoon.

My name is definitely

alright. Thank you.

I just want to say I got a question about this helicopter. How many helicopter pilots do we have for the department? We got a $2 million helicopter. I really know anybody can fly in the department. And how much will it be used, hopefully. Uh, also want to say it's very sickening to hear about what happened to the brother that works with I can't remember his name. I've been out there with him. He does excellent. His face should be plastered in these departments. Nobody should be bothering him. He's done excellent work, done a lot of police work as a civilian for volunteer purposes. Uh, also want to say the chief EPU unit needs some retraining. I was at the Walker mile yesterday and learned officers and his EPU unit tried to physically stop me from walking. I wasn't even close to the chief that that's he almost got you guys, nice little lawsuit. I also want to ask, does the department monitor protesters like Lieutenant Cole said, because he can't, that man has 25 years on the force. He came on and said that he was suspended for something that he was praying to do, and he said he had an entire unit. So, I mean, is that a thing that happened? Because I protest a lot, so I want to know. If I'm not, am I being monitored by officers while I'm just living my regular life? Are you guys spending that much time and effort and violating our First Amendment rights?

I'll see the rest of my time. Alright, next

you good? You need some help. Oh, you got Okay? I

I still

do the

community

the communication between

people with disabilities, because for Me, I have been kept too many times.

Many times in The past.

And I

become that

but Do not

do that.

So

I have seen black

that They stuff,

this past week, I mean, a lot of time walking. I

thank you.

Thank you very much. Um the weekend to make sure that you know this messaging Deputy Chief Williams to, you know, to the city in terms of, you know, with those with disability, in terms of the bus, and I know that the department has a transit unit now they'll be able to make sure that they are in compliance with all ADA laws, and making sure that our residents who have disabilities are being treated with dignity and respect, and they they are operating under the ADA law, you know. And if you can make sure that that message is communicated and tag the board you know on an email that the transit unit is ensuring that all ADA compliances is taking place on the bus, that everyone is violating the law in that regard to the chair. If I could just be clear, so the transit unit, they do not run DDOT, so that messaging, that's not something that can come from us to be effective. Okay, um, what we primarily do is we just do make sure that the bus line is safe. One of the things that she did say was that the bus was parked in front of the bus stop, and it was difficult for people to get along. So that's something that I could put out to make sure department wide, that's not a that's not current. So if a DDOT bus driver is violating the law. That's going to be a complaint that goes to DDOT, okay, so you don't enforce any of the federal okay violations. Those are going to be more complaints and so protocol law, I'm asking our attorney to send a letter to the d.on behalf of the park or of the board and asking them to ensure that residents are being treated with dignity and Respect and that the ADA laws are in compliance, you know and reference, you can reference this particular

concern.

We ask that people on the muted

Mister Chairman, hold

on hold on Commissioner. Banks, okay,

I just wanted to say it's so good finally seeing this Miss Maddie in person. Because ever since I've been on the board, or what, last three years, she was always on, she was always on Zoom, and it's so good to have met

her along Oh,

but it's so good to meet her. It's so it's so good. It's so good to meet her and see her in person. Does she catch the bus down here? Thank you. You're welcome, miss.

She catch the bus? I'm

not for sure.

Way in an officer can rely

I mean, we can't let it go out like that.

Okay? We can find out offline, you know, whatever we need to do. I put it on the whatever. I

appreciate it. Go ahead.

What I want to ask you, Chief, though, is she raised and raised a very good point. I've often thought I didn't think about it until she mentioned it. There is no cut off in the in the curve that allows people like herself to be able to get on the bus. Or, I know some busses have the thing, I guess it goes down that you can roll onto, pull out of that but, but the streets himself, if that bus doesn't have that, then what do we do? Because you can't get a wheelchair, or a person that's disabled, man, I want you to raise it okay? And the second thing is that it's been we've got a formal complaint at the at the Police Commission about about headquarters, the front door. You can open one panel of the door, but you can't open the whole door for handicapped people, and the handicapped spaces are apartment are too far back, a way down at the corner down there, as opposed to being in front of the doors and in front of the building. They're supposed to be. That's that's a problem. It's a real problem for them to walk from the end of the parking lot to the front door. The handicap spaces should be at the front,

please. Thank you, Mister. I

was just going to

say some of these issues, City of Detroit issue, absolutely, that's alright. City of Detroit issue, and that's what we need to be addressing them at it's good that the deputy chief sitting here, but police are involved in operations, not really the administrative it should be addressed. I'm not saying it should be addressed. It should be, however, should be addressed at a higher level,

absolutely. And that's why we directed our attorney to do the letter, and that's why we just excuse me any next.

Thank you, Mister Chair, rain Kennedy, and then we're going to zoom with election integrity room and former Commissioner Davis. Hello, hello.

Speak up in the mic by interpreters are trying to interpret.

Yeah. By the years

by

I have my lawyer took all my money. I have nothing.

I need somebody to help me, because I have lots of money because

the doctor didn't get then I have one housing and I have a partner I haven't seen my apartment for years. My dad. My dad died. My Dad, sorry. My dad died.

My dad is Grover Kennedy who died two years ago. My mom died a long and my sister died also. That means me, what is the problem? I don't know that's why I had a lawyer, and now I have no money. They took my no they took my step. How would I How can I live? I don't know. I'm very scared. Before that, I was a speaker, I am a minister,

I'm a coach.

I did diva dance. I'm very mad because I can't speak and know a body help me. Thank you. What will you do? I need to know. What will you do. My I have a lawyer. 1234, larger. Thank you.

Thank you. Next speaker,

integrity, election,

yeah. It must gaming. That's election integrity rule. And there was, listen up. Now you fresh out for what a 28 year stretch over at the Ryan Correctional Facility, same facility, 28 years. I'm from the streets. I know what that mean. Now you circumvented the board's directive to subpoena the report. That's the DP Michigan State Police report on the review of the investigation of DPD case, two, zero, dash, 11112, the death of Kenisha Coleman, which is the murder cover up Kenisha Coleman by the homicide unit of Detroit Police Department. Now it's my understanding you circumvented the director of the board, because the next morning, you went in and told the board secretary not to, um, subpoena the report. Overstepping your boundaries. You way out of line, cross the line. You ain't got no authority to do that, to tell, tell secretary to do not what the board voted on. You don't got that authority. Man, then you had a meeting with Conrad mallet and Mike Duggan in regards to this report that the other Commissioners don't seem to know about. Well, it seems that the Michigan State Police, that letter that you told the board secretary to send over to the Michigan State Police, they answered it, and they sent back a redacted, redacted review investigation of the report that they got at the Detroit homicide unit in the case filed, it's unredacted, which the board authorized and voted to subpoena. So let's get this together and get the unredacted report and dismiss dismiss it to you know, disseminated amongst all the board members. Unredacted. Daryl woods, man, you canisha. Birthday is next month, next week,

next speaker. Good evening.

Good evening. Can I be heard?

You may be heard. Okay, I

like to start off by saying, I think the board should be requesting additional funding. I think the budget should be expanded. As you have more and more police officers coming online, and as you have police taking over transit duties, I think the number of citizen complaints is going to jump, and we already have a backlog. I think that henceforth the city should be, you should be pushing the city to give you a larger budget. Y'all also should be doing more as relates to community events, you know, town halls, all sorts of things, to be more engaged. Also, I would like for y'all to maybe do some public service announcements and and encourage people to vote, you know, not necessarily tell them who to vote for, but let people know that they can be protected, because we have some people that, you know, when I was on the board in 2020, that it was there was harassing people, some outsiders that was coming to our City, harassing people from voting that was trying to count the votes. So we need to make sure people are aware that voting can be done in the city of Detroit, voting can be fair and voting can be protected. Want to make sure all of our people feel protected. So, you know, I like to say that y'all should push for more money, push for more staff push for more invest investigators.

Thank you.

Thank you, grandpa. Commissioner Moore, thank you, Mister

Chair. I was just going to address mister Crowley and stay there after I spoke with you earlier today. Mister Crowley, I did talk to a couple other folks, and they need advisement on an avenue that will possibly satisfy you and your request for information, regardless of his comments that so I'll be reaching out to you later on tonight after

and make it absolutely clear that report for the Michigan State Police and the information That was requested, rather that was homicide or suicide, they concluded, to agree with the department that was, you know. So we don't want to muddy the waters, you know. And so that report is absolutely clear what it says, you know, conclusion. And so, you know, we can play politics and games, but that ain't This is not kanisha Coleman family reaching out to this is a community person who's reaching out to this, and he has the right to reach out to whatever you want to reach out to, but you can't make a report say something that it doesn't say to

the chair, yes. Now the documentation on the from the state police, they couldn't lean either way, whether it was a suicide or a homicide. If you read that documentation, they didn't mean either way and say it was suicide and say it was homicide, they

said they, they, they, if that attorney give you, you know, the proper lady, they said he cannot conclude that this was a homicide, you know, saying that They and they, they didn't go against the report that. So would you read that entire report and get to the entire conclusion? That's what it says. Clearly, Yes,

Commissioner, he's absolutely correct. The board voted to subpoena the entire report. The board is entitled to the report, not just you, but everybody

the board, on board, right the and we can

issue that subpoena and then, and

the thing you want to do with, first of all, as you do your research and understand research, I'm a lawyer. I have the floor.

I have a floor. Go ahead. Yes, hold on, hold on, excuse

me. Okay, do what you need to do. But the fact of the matter is, is that the report says what it says, and that is the report from the state police, and the department do not own that report, and it's up to the State Police authorized the release of that report. And if you need to contact the State Police, you contact the State Police. You know, excuse me, if you need to contact the State Police, contact the state police and the pay state police and let you know who owns that report and who can give out that report and who can release that report.

If the department has it, we can get it. It's

just that's a lawyer to do what you need to do. Alright? Thank you for the chair, as you wanted to say, you know when you silence attorney Linda Bernard silent saying 100,000 people that live in a second district, which is her district. She's one of the top vote getters here in the city of Detroit.

Speaking, I

had the floor at the time and I was speaking, and then when I finished speaking, she she finished her remarks.

You know, this is, this

is Robert Rules of Order. This is parliamentary procedure, and if we don't understand it, we need to go study it or go talk to the parliamentary I think, excuse me, some of us know Jews. Any next online on a border, next online,

I'm sorry. So that's the last That's it.

Okay.

We have a moving agenda right along.

Presentation to the board by Daniel eckridge, Attorney Daniel Eckert, what do

they say? Good

evening with the Wayne County services, and thank you for coming and requesting to be here. And thank you for your service for the citizens, to the citizens of the city of Detroit, especially those who are indent and fight for their freedoms and fight for justice, and thank you for serving them with dignity and respect. You may be hurt.

Thank you. Thank you commissioners. Thank you Chair woods for having me here. I reached out to a friend if I could inform both the board of police commissioner and the community about what my department does, and also talk about how what we do building out robust public defense, how it supports public safety and public health. My name is Dan eichenger. I'm a program manager at Wayne County's indigent defense department. What our mission is in the indigent defense service department is to make sure that individuals who are charged with felonies in Wayne County and are unable to afford an attorney receive high quality representation from their assigned counsel. So I just want to talk about how we do this and also how we factor into the public safety discussion. We do this a number of ways. We qualify attorneys who are assigned to take certain types of cases based on experience training. We offer continuing training opportunities and research assistance those attorneys, we pay assigned counsel, additive wage, incentivize quality representation, so they are just representing their private clients over there, indigent clients. We remove the assignment process away from the courts so there's no conflicts of interest. We give the attorneys ample access to expert and investigator resources. We also have a building growing team social workers, which says in addressing the root cause of our clients conduct, moving on to how we are providing robust public defense factors into public safety. We go beyond just throwing somebody's constitutional right to an attorney. The ways we do this is we already know what the research shows that if somebody spends even a short term pre trial incarcerated, rates of redefine increase, we know the harmful consequences of conviction throughout one's life, let alone or prison that carries negative consequences to one's social family size, employment, housing like potential quality, well resourced attorneys are able to mitigate harms consequences by achieving beneficial outcomes. Whenever this assists their clients, their communities, they save taxpayers money. I mentioned the social workers. We have a growing cast of social workers that are literally situated to address the root cause of crime. I heard WG talk about the growing assistance of mental illness, so we definitely play a role in that. By social workers connecting folks with mental health and substance abuse treatment, stable housing, employment, educational health needs, we also help prevent wrongful convictions. Wayne County has the highest number of exonerations in the state, with growing resources dedicated to investigations and policies that require investigations in certain cases, as well as experts here in Michigan and across the whole country, they're able to contest cases with serious evidentiary issues, this includes signs that is unreliable but yet still pervades from our system, and that's pretty much what we do, who we are. I just wanted to introduce our department because we're still fairly new as a department. We in about 2020 and we're growing. We're supporting defense attorneys, and we play a significant role in the public safety public health fight. And I also want to let the community know who to contact. You can go to our website, Wayne County indigent defense services department. Email is idsd Wayne at Wayne County com. The phone is 313202, and then 103, so if you have an assigned attorney,

yes, permission of an article, thank

you for the presentation and Mister Chairman, thank you for inviting mister ecklinger to speak. What is the budget for the for your department,

budget for the whole department. Yes, it includes the public defender's office and the S includes all the attorney bills, I believe, for

about 15 million 15 million, we are by far the largest.

You said, you hire outside counsel, and then you have staff attorneys as well.

So our department, we have staff attorneys who assist with training, standards, the application process, like myself, we don't represent clients directly. There are some jurisdictions that in Michigan do that. So the public defender's office in Detroit is a nonprofit organization based out of New York. They take 35% of felony cases. We have a roster of sign counsel. That's 65% of the cases. So it's lifted generally, but we have a roster pilot to qualify

the option

that comes up on the list, or they can pass.

Have you had any high profile cases that the community

might know about? I

mean, yeah, I'm not sure about high profile cases. I specifically am in the field of investigative experts consulting with attorneys, you signing up new experts and investigators. I can tell you that we've had cases recently, like we had a case that child died accidentally, was charged as a homicide. The case went to trial after about five years, and the father were accused dogging the child. And we had a pediatrician through our program who was able to testify that there were maybe underlying issues. They were equipped. So we kept cases like that. I could go through multiple those type of cases, but don't. Can't think of any profile cases.

Mister Moore,

my colleague, just played into where I was going. Are you familiar with Michael Jackson Milano space? What are your thoughts on that? I mean, I think it's so basic.

Retry, correct. What

I'm asking. What do you

I didn't follow as closely as I would what? But I can tell you that. I mean from a personal perspective, just a perspective, that's kind of where I come from. That's my last my quartet. That's my background. So I'm trying to see problems in evidence.

I'm just curious, because Detroit police obviously was involved in the case. Did you see anything as relate to PPE, I can't, not at this time. I'm

not even I haven't looked at Monday. I haven't looked at all. I'm all I'm talking about is what I see from Okay, and I'll

be turn

And my second question. Last question, deals with, are you familiar with Wayne County issues? Relates to documents Magna.

I just read an article about that. I'm not, I mean, I'm fairly new in back to Michigan, so that's my cover. No, but I did just read a story

about Thank you. Okay, alright, um, thank you. Thank you so much, and thank you for your service, and thank you for your presentation. Next, yes, sir the officer for number three, we've

had a

appreciation for he's here, but he's because he has to go back. Okay, okay,

okay. Okay, have it. Have your way. Thank you. Yes, sir chair, I want to call up

officer Mario SMA to come up to receive a certificate appreciation for developing strong ties with residents and community organizations. And the third preset and enhancing public safety through stronger police community relations in our city, Officer Mario SML is on the wall, at least That course for police officer the court. All right,

okay, congratulations. Also, the

short tigers are

winning. 35 is winning 333. Or two,

we go you going to be the only one we last week. Man, go

ahead. You ain't running this

go ahead. I said I don't

know what I did. Wow. Thank you for doing your job. A

report. From the board secretary,

Cameron woods and honorable board members. Communications. You will find under tab 11, the reports from the Office of Chief Investigator, the weekly report as well as another report is included there the announcement, excuse me for this evening are the remaining meetings for october 2024, The meeting for Thursday, October 17 has been canceled earlier during this meeting. The next meetings are Thursday, October 24 3pm Thursday, October 31 at 3pm and a location at Detroit Public Safety headquarters Third Street in Detroit for November The meetings are as follows, Thursday November 7, Thursday November 14, Thursday November 21 November 7 and November 21 are at 3pm at safety headquarters, the community meeting. Thursday November 14, 6:30pm will be in the second precent at Adam but soul Recreation Center, which is located on Linden Street in Detroit, for october 24 committee meetings scheduled at this time, both being held at Detroit Public Safety headquarters, are as follows, Policy Committee meeting Tuesday, October 29 5pm Budget Committee meeting, Wednesday, October 30 at 6pm that concludes the report and the announcements here on Woodson board.

Um, thank you. Very, very kindly. Um, I think we had but new business now and what I would what I would say is that, as it relates to, I guess it might be a little bit old business and new business, I'm going to defer everything about any type of subpoena and all of that to the attorney and I'm going to recuse myself from it and defer it to the vice chair woman. And although I know what the facts are, what the truth are, truth is, truth is, but I'm a very transparent person. I'm a very community orient person, and I will, I seek the truth, and I stand on truth, and you know, so, having said that, you know, I'm going to have the attorney direct an attorney to whatever they sit with the ruling was, and what you feel a ruling was about any type of subpoena, communicate that, and The vice chairman we'll work with you as it relates to that, to vet that situation all the way out on what can be done and what cannot be done as it relates to that, you know. Because the fact of the matter is, is that we don't need to get caught up in isms and isms when we dealing with the citizens of the city of Detroit, you know, and so my overall objective is not to play with the emotions of people and and play with the livelihood of people. You know, when citizens come here, they looking for the truth. And we're not here to play any games with the citizens of the city of Detroit, but we're trying to do our best as a commission to be able to get them the right answers without any political gangsmanship, or any type of politics or any type of emotional gains, because at the end of the day, you have a young lady who is Dead, and her family, I'm sure, suffering over that, and no one here to play is here to play with the emotions of anyone. And having said that, I will leave it as that.

Thank you through the chair so being the oversight board and handling this, there is nothing that we can do, first, changing an opinion, a medical decision. We're just overseeing and giving this information that we have already received

absolutely and council when, when the city council requests a document, they get the document. We are an oversight board City Council's oversight for the city of Detroit, when we request that, when we when we vote that a document should be supplied, the document has to be supplied. Now it can be if it's redacted. It's a separate stuff that that's a separate issue. We might have to deal with that separately. Right

through the chair.

We received

the report. After

receiving the report and overviewing a report that was already written, what is it that is expected for us to do afterwards?

The Citizen requested

the report, use your title to look at

the citizen has a right to. FOIA, no, we

don't have to just excuse me.

Freedom of me, excuse

me,

but I'm speaking though I'm not no freedom of information that you're not even

Commissioner,

uh, excuse me. This. You know all these games, we got to stop the games and quit playing with the emotions of the people to the chair. Can we please have respect for excuse me, and I will recognize but it's very

difficult. She's attorney, the past attorney to this board. You

are out of order. You are out

of the hospital.

You are out of order.

You know, the thing is, because we don't have to continue to play these games your district, this is embarrassing. It's embarrassing

how you, how you, how you treat a woman that's old enough to be your mother. This is my

girl, her dealing with each other every single day. I respect and regard this Commissioner, and it's absolutely, it absolutely is business. But I'm trying to try to play games on, on, I respect this lady, and I work with her, you know you need to, yeah, right, yeah. We're going to have this meeting officer to adjourn, yeah. Uh, motion made by Commissioner or to adjourn, uh, second by Commissioner Smith. Uh, all in favor. Say, aye. Aye. any discussion. And what opposed. The motion is Carrie.