Or society, or generally, all of those sorts of things, you know, where fashion does have a very unique role, but it's always sort of tailored to some sort of specific use that's circumscribed by by your culture, your time period. And it doesn't go beyond that. It doesn't sort of, you know, jump out of time, take something out of context, bring it in for its own sort of hipness. That's the claim, if I understand it correctly. If someone is has a painted.on their forehead to indicate that they're married, since it performs a very specific social function, it wouldn't be considered fashion. Or if somebody is wearing something to indicate their power and their status, it would be considered fashion that what these people are saying is fashion is attention to clothes and design for its own sake, for no other social purpose, and therefore fashion becomes discrete, something separate from the social and political messages. Is that what they mean? Yeah, and also that that they're sort of like, you know, subversion that can come from acknowledging that something's playing a social function doesn't play such a big role. Couldn't just, like put a.on your head, just for kicks, and then have, you know, have people interpret it as an undermining of its previous function. That's something sort of denied by this idea that adornment, all of it, plays a specific role and has a use value, not in itself, and it's not aware of itself, was what I wanted also to say, it's not aware of itself in such a way. What does that mean? It means that it can't, you know, sort of study other cultures and then take on, you know, attitudes that don't belong to it in order to make a point about itself. But actually, this is precisely something that happens all the time. You know, in Herodotus histories, Thucydides is history. He talks about exactly such things, sort of mockery of other cultures by means of exaggerating factions that they you give an example of the Athenians in Greece and the Spartans in Greece, and that the Athenians famously would wrestle naked and exercise naked and but they would wear belts originally, but the Spartans didn't do that. And after a while, the Athenians saw that and adopted it, and then decided that wearing belts was for barbarians, which is Greek word for non Greek. This is the kind of thing that you mean, adopting and valuing things from other groups in other cultures, right? Sort of I mean what I meant by that example, which is Thucydides is example. It comes very early in his History of the Peloponnesian War, which is a war between the Athenians and the Spartans. And so when the Athenians take on this Spartan style, and that's his example, he calls it a Tropos, or a turn, a kind of way or manner, when they take on the Spartan manner of exercising naked, that's, in a way, a kind of foreshadowing of what's about to happen, which is that they're gonna lose the war. So fashion plays a very like kind of keen role in representing something much beyond what you might think. You might think he's just saying, Oh, they used to wear, like these cricket clips in their hair, and they used to kind of wear belts. And then they just, they started imitating the Spartans. It just so happens, you know, then the Spartans crush them. Fashion knew something before it happened. Fashion predicted something in a way, right? Yeah. And that goes to that unconscious, that way that fashion works without our awareness talk to us more about the way that the Greeks were using this concept of fashion, and the way that it's been invisible in the past in these discussions about the history of fashion. I mean, there it's like a sign of the times. And the idea would be, you know, that the way that fashion historians think about the way that fashion came to be is that there's a time before it knows it's a sign of the times. And I want to say, no, actually, there's something about fashion that sort of goes together with being human and the kind of denial of that awareness to fashion sort of, you know, there's a time when clothes are just clothes, and then they somehow come to be fashionable. This idea, I think, is born out of the fear that fashion might be so pervasive that we won't actually be able to get a handle on it or get rid of it. Because if fashion began, then you can imagine a time when it might end. You know, when there? There might be a time when you can finally cut yourself free.