who we are not. That is we come to understand ourselves in relationship to others. And this applies to group identity as well. We're social beings and so naturally, we develop affinities with groups of people that we see ourselves as similar to who share in our life experiences. And in this regard, we're pretty much just like bees and ants, cows and sheep. social animals that are genuine genetically inclined to group together we form family units, communities, Sangha has and we gravitate towards and find safety in being part of a particular herd particular group, or we can say, groups and herds, and in the plural sense as well, because we typically belong or see ourselves as belonging to more than one group. And our group identities can be based on all sorts of attributes, including our age, or gender or ethnicity, sexual orientation, nationality, religion, and, and so on, but also our interests, sports, music, politics, hobbies, geographic location, etc. And just as in the case of an individual identity, our group social bonds are strengthened by the distinctions we make about the group, we belong to what it means to be part of a certain group in relation to other groups. And the upside is a the upside of this is that we can feel really nourished and supported by aligning ourselves with certain others. That's the camaraderie and mutual support that comes with being part of the herd. But there's a downside to it as well. And that downside is that it can fuel all kinds of harmful judgments, accusations, biases, arousing feelings of competition, and opposition. And this, this, us and them mentality becomes especially evident in situations where we position and assert ourselves against others. In other words, we engage in other ism. In taking up Zen practice, though, we're aspiring to see through that, to go beyond any notion of us in them, me and you, this and that. Beyond the labels and categories, we use to distinguish ourselves and to wall ourselves off from others. In the ultimate sense, our ideas about who we are, and who we're not are just a fiction. They're, they're a product of our thoughts. And our thoughts have no substance. Okay, yes, we do occupy a physical body. It has certain characteristics, there's a border to it, the skin, the, you know, the shell that we have that we call our skin. But we're much, much more than that. And here's the good news. We don't need to deny our human qualities or individual qualities, including our inclinations, that arise from being social animals. We don't have to deny any of that in order to realize that our true self, our true self is no self. That is to say it's limitless. It has no borders or edges. It's also not fixed. It changes from one moment to the next. Not one of us has a fixed identity