For sure. Listen, do you still want to go? Okay. All right. So get ready. Now this is going to be an info dump on a whole bunch of stuff. We got to talk and out of the way now. It's just me blabbing. Okay, so victories for past tenant unions. So yeah, we've been pretty theoretical so far. But let's talk about some real world victories. There was the Parkdale tenants kickoff rent strike to demand repairs and to end rent hikes. And they won. And they had about 200 tenants who withheld close to a quarter million dollars on monthly payments. And I think that's important to kind of conceptualize that, when you do do a rent strike, it's going to be very pricey for the landlord, right, like shorter individual rent might be 1000 or 2000. But collectively, it's a lot of money. We are neighbors and we organized in Oakland, that was a tank union that organized and did get some victories, and Houston, Texas victory. They won after a two month rent strike. Those are newspaper articles. So you can Google them if you want more details. But, you know, again, victories have happened, usually through tenant strikes. But we'll talk a little bit later about victories that happened even without having to go into a hole strike. And so there's also the mutual aid aspect of forming a tenant union, right, you don't necessarily have to reduce your rent, like that's not the only victory that comes from it. So typically, the way that you know, left does, mutual aid now is very much just like a charity. So it's like a less well funded church. And that's not what we're aiming to do. Historically, mutual aid has been combined with the union. And so once the tenant union gets to a certain size, you can start building this outward, tenants are helping themselves and benefiting themselves by coming together. And so events like the one in the picture where folks are hanging out, providing really good food to each other good music, like that's a win in itself, neighbors being friendly enough with each other, that they're checking in on people the checking on people that aren't well or the elderly. Like all of that is still an improvement to people's everyday lives. Right. And that should still count as a victory, because you need that kind of solid already before you're gonna win anything bigger. And that makes organizing so much easier as well, because when someone has a problem or a new tenant moves in, there's a community there for them to plug into, instead of just being an individual that's having to deal with their landlord all by themselves. And just as another part of this, like, because we aren't being a service, what we don't want is for tenants to get a problem with their landlord, and then email us, right, because we're going to continue being a small team, maybe some of those tenants join us to do other stuff. But the goal should be that they contact their neighbors, the people that they're close to, to resolve the issues with their tenant union. And so the the goal for tenant unions, obviously, is to do much bigger things than just that, right? It's a dry runs down across the whole city, or, you know, marched down city hall with a pack Street, because we have so many tenants that are unionized, but the only way that's going to happen is we're actually growing our tenant union. So that's a vital aspect, we can't just unionize a few places, and then kind of sit on our laurels after that. Okay, so now we're gonna go over a few things that can help us make decisions on like which neighborhood to pick. And this is kind of the nitty gritty stuff. So just bear with me. For what we saw at the tank conference, in the bay, were in there were like 40 different unions that came from all across the west coast and Canada. Sometimes, projects would fall into people's laps, and so they'd go knocking on some building, and there'll be a really serious problem that all the tenants already had, you know, problems so serious, they were ready to basically move out. And so it was very easy for them to say, hey, let's put up like one final stand was actually fight, the landlord tried to get this fixed. Those people who those are people that are really agitated and like ready to fight, right, you don't have to really do all that much. Also, we can get lucky. And you know, maybe there's a member of working class unity in the future, or now, um, who already lives in a building that is having some sort of problem. And you know, that person is already integrated, maybe they somewhat know the residents already, that's a really convenient place to start. And, you know, getting at least one committed organizer is usually the hardest part like Sandra, and like Lucas, were saying, and so if you already have that person there, that's, that's a great start, just right there. And just a note on like, agitation, like we'll talk more about this, and like organizing conversations in the future, hopefully. But just because someone is agitated, you know, there's issues that they want dealt with, doesn't mean that's a sign that those people are going to be beholden to their neighbors, or that they're gonna want to work together and organize with their fellow tenants, it just means they're pissed off about something like we have to do the heavy lifting of actually getting them to work together after that. Okay. And then these are like objective factors of these things can make organizing easier. So no, trying to pick a location organizer is what we should look out for. You know, we want to find a place that has about 10 to, on the lower end of units, you don't want like to start off with 1000 units. And you want them all owned by the same landlord, obviously. And if you can get a significant chunk of people from these buildings, and you can apply collective pressure on the landlord fairly quickly. And it's really effective if the landlord doesn't own multiple properties, right? If they're, that's the one property they own. If we're going to take away 10s of 1000s of in like revenue in a month. That's something that's going to scare them. Let's see, where are we? Yeah. And if the complex is too large, it's just too hard, is there's known problems with the landlord, like in a bit, we'll go over the research on it, you can sometimes find like violations online. So you're already informed. But there's other things like maintenance, living conditions, large rent increases, that's stuff we're going to learn when we're doing cold calls, or when we're when we're going door to door. Simply organizing is often not enough, you know, it's often enough to get a quick victory around maintenance and other conditions. But as we learned from the convention, if that's all you go for the tenant union tends to fall apart after you get that victory. And so you have to establish a stronger bond with the people there. There are also rent increases, but you know, they said reversing a rent increase can be challenging, so you can look at the rental history of a property, see how likely another rent increase is, it does tend to immediately activate people because it's an immediate threat. You know, it's not something we're used to living with. They can be used to living with, you know, faulty plumbing, but they're not yet used to like a $300 increase in the rent. So that can give it some urgency. So in the future, when we're trying to choose building a project, we should consider these three or these four factors, whether there's a member who's already in the building, and when I say building I just mean like an area with the same landlord because we don't know We have buildings like that the level of tenant agitation if the building has a medium size, so like 10 3040 units, and if there are known common issues across all of those units Any questions so far? Okay, almost done. So for research, if you do pass this, you know, we're going to try to set up a committee to do this. But the research aims to figure out who your landlord is, map out the landlord's properties, find eviction history, legal complaints, political donations, you know, any spicy information that we can use, you can also Google their name online, see if they've been in the news before. There are tools for research nationally, there are some local tools, property radar is kind of a national tool that we can use. And then you can also do public record requests for landlord records. And on our forum, we have kind of a guide on how to do legal requests or public record requests. So we can do some of those. And then, in terms of tactics for winning, so like, what previous victories that have actually happened, what are the kinds of things that those folks did to actually win, sometimes it's really easy, you send a letter to send the landlord letter signed by all the tenants as a tenant association. And just for clarity to tenant union would be like working class unity, a tenant association would be like that neighborhood, like branch basically. And then so you or you collectively submit complaints on the same day to regulatory body. So maybe the body doesn't have any teeth, maybe people don't really pay attention, but getting 2030 complaints about the same thing from the same property will raise a red flag. So that's one in the past. Nothing was got flipped, okay, I'm gonna move to here. Okay, or you can take your entire tenant union. So this is an event that actually happened, while we were out in the bay, this is the view of the landlord. So he opened his door and saw that because he wasn't paying a woman's deposit back. So you can go to their house for the neighborhood, you can do a rally like this, you can go talk to their neighbors to basically shame them, you know, tell the neighbor about how they're trying to kick out some family in the middle of winter. And there was one more